I believe that the Bull inn was used as a filming location in the Railway Children return where there's a fight between white and Black American GIs and the Bronte's home is also a filming location too
In 1946 Hollywood made a highly fictionalised film, ‘Devotion ‘, about the Bronte family. In it a lovely poem by Branwell was quoted : “ Amid the world’s wide din around I hear from far a solemn sound That says, ‘Remember me ‘. And solemn as a funeral knell I hear that soft voice known so well Cry, ‘Oh, remember me ‘. “ If Branwell walked into The Black Bull today I’m sure he would be very moved to know that we DO remember him 💔. Thank you so much for this ❣️.
It seems that Branwell couldn't live up to his family's expectations of him. Cocooned in that house his early years must have left him with the thought that he could conquer the world, however reality soon told him he wasn't as brilliant as he thought. From then on he lost the will to work hard and gave himself over to drink and opium. The reality of what he had become dismayed and distressed his family and he ended up a rather pathetic man and death was his escape from a very sad life. I watched 'to walk invisible ' I agree it was brilliant, particularly Chloe Pirrie in the role of Emily Bronte.
My mother told me that her great, great, great grandfather (not sure whether it’s 3 or 4 “greats”) was the landlord at the Black Bull at that time and he drank himself to death with Branwell. I visited Haworth, with her, a few years ago. We walked past the pub but didn’t go in. It’s fascinating to see it inside. Thank you.
@@verynearlyinteresting You’re welcome. I’ve just checked and it’s 3 x great for my mother and 4 for me. His name was Enoch Thomas. He was six years older than Brandon and died the same year that he did. From what you were saying it sounds like there could’ve been a bit more than alcohol involved. It was lovely to hear him mentioned in the video - although being a bad influence on Brandon is not the best reputation! 😂 Thanks anyway
@@Max-wv5gh Hi Max. That's so cool! Welcome to the family! Thanks for the info - I didn't realise that Enoch was in one of the books. We're almost famous!
I have a theory about Branwell. Every tumultuous event you describe from Branwell’s life describes a person suffering from Borderline Personality Disorder. If you look up the Wikipedia page for this disorder, there is a section listing famous fictional characters who display clear signs of the disorder. Catherine Earnshaw from Wuthering Heights tops this list. Borderline Personality Disorder was only officially recognised/classified as a disorder in 1980, so Emily could not have simply researched the illness in an encyclopaedia or journal to obtain material for Wuthering Heights. For Emily to so accurately describe this disorder (in her creation of the Wuthering Heights character, “Cathy”) 130 years before the disorder’s classification, I believe she was astutely observing the (BPD) behaviours she found in her brother, Branwell. Just a theory.
I agree. I have always believed that Branwell was probably bipolar.....perhaps even Emily. It was an unknown disease then and therefore no treatment and no medication. I am sure most sufferers self-medicated and became addicts. It's not fair that he's known as a drunk/addict when more than likely he was fighting a battle of the mind with whatever means available. Being the only son, the pressures on him would have been many.
I love this! I am American and ended up visiting Haworth on a month long trip kinda by happenstance. Ended up becoming obsessed with the Brontes because of it. Went to all the Hot spots. I love the film To Walk Invisible.
Hi Alexandra, I love it too! One of my favourite films! Thank you so much for watching. Have a look too at my recent video about a possible photograph of the brontes, I think you’ll like that one. Tez 😊
Family lore has it that my great, great, grand father used to own mills near Haworth. A regular visitor was the Rev. Patrick Bronte. The servants were instructed that when they saw the good Reverend coming across the moor to visit, they were to virtually empty all the whiskey, port decanters etc because the Reverend wouldn't leave until they were completely empty. So the story goes......
This was an actually very interesting biography of Branwell. What a tragic figure! He was, as you said, the natural hope of a family of sisters, moderately talented, and could have been able to be a respected man in his town and his own home. One factor that might have been touched on was the constant specter of death in that family. It must have been on everyone's mind that tuberculosis or any communicable disease would take more of them. Did he think he was up to the burden of carrying his family through? I doubt it. I would suggest eliminating the music or softening it greatly.
You should do a video on their father, Patrick, he was very intelligent & interesting too & had a part in getting reservoirs built in the area to being clean water to his parishioners. I think he is often forgotten about too, the man that fathered the Bronte’s.
Thank you for this. I have visited Haworth a few times and it's one of my favourite places. I know what you mean about the pub, it's nice but needs a few tweaks imo. Yes, I agree that 'To Walk Invisible' is an amazing production and I think a fairly accurate representation of the family, the times and the stress and despair of the family. They lost their mother, siblings, and life could be tough. In Branwell' s case, add mh issues, heartbreak and addiction to the mix and it's even tougher. I find Branwell to be the most interesting of the four, and am drawn to him the most. When I visited Haworth about 5 years ago I was going through a horrendous time in my life. I drew huge comfort and insight from my visit to the Parsonage and The Black Bull. I felt a huge weight come off my shoulders and realised ' yes, somebody else felt how I feel ' ; suffering is universal and timeless. I think if Branwell came back today he'd be rather amazed and fascinated. He'd want to discover and discuss everything he saw. I wish he knew how much he had actually achieved and that he is remembered. I adore his poetry, in my opinion it's the sort of stuff that touches the soul. Thanks again for the video. I live in France now but you've encouraged me to plan another visit to Haworth.
Just found your wonderful channel this Saturday evening. Spent a lovely and entertaining evening watching your videos. What a gifted storyteller you are!
Sad about Branwell really. I read that he became a believer in his last hours. When his father prayed at his request, he then said Amen at the end of the prayer, previously not a believer
Thanks to you, I'll be visiting the Black Bull this year in October. Thanks also for your retelling of Branwell's story which sadly goes unnoticed by most considering his siblings success. Cheers and good luck for the future.
I've known a couple of people like Bramwell, successful parents or siblings, and they couldn't find their own footing in the world. But I think you've made a valid point, Charlotte might have still strived for a published novel, she had a drive to prove herself. Anne, possibly. Emily, I doubt it. She was perfectly comfortable in her own world. So, here's to you, Bramwell. Look forward to more of your videos😊
11:35 In one of Charlotte's letters, I can't remember which one at the moment, she said she was that Branwell died not knowing his sisters wrote these novels.
I think I remember reading that plaque when I was in Haworth last, because it was so ridiculously inaccurate I thought everything it said must have been a lie and dismissed any connection it might have had to Branwell. I wouldn't be surprised if that plaque is a contributing factor to why tourists who are into the Brontë's do not visit the pub.
I think that too … it must put some people off. I tell anyone in that pub who will care to listen but they never do anything about it 🙄. Thanks for watching and commenting, hope you enjoyed it. Tez
We visited the Black Bull and sat where you are unknowingly that was Branwell did! It was a very eerie pub and I am sensitive to spirit, I could definitely feel a presence
Excellent stuff Tez keep up the good work. I visited Howarth and the Bronte Parsonage yesterday for the second time. I recommend it to anyone. It's incredible.
Myself and a Freind visited Haworth in 2018. We stayed in a pub at the top of the street, called the White Lion. We went in the Black bull and the couple other pubs further down the hill. Its a quaint village. You can see it all in a day no probs. Visted the Parsonage. The grave yard is fascinating. It was good to walk in the footsteps of the Brontes. I could picture them struggling up the bank like we did.😏
Given how hard life was for the girls I've always resented Branwell wasting money on drinking himself to death. So was very interesting to learn the landlord plied him with free booze in exchange for entertainment. Ty for another great video 😊
Yep. Studied the Brontes at uni, and thinking of those three frail wisps of girls giving up their food for the brother who was considered the talent of the family still, decades later, evokes strong feelings.
I sympathize with Branwell. Intellectuals are not coarse and resilient creatures. Being the only boy among such talented sisters was another burden. Free will is an illusion. He was subject to circumstance as we all are. Wish I'd known him.
Mrs H 🇬🇧 ...Alcoholism is known today as a dangerous symptom ... His sister's where being sort of successful ( Which carry on today ) but Bramwell was a lost, Depressed soul... We have more to offer today yet many struggle...Drugs & alcohol are a destroying symptom of what's actually going on... Bramwell was ill & back then people seen what was in front them.. they didn't see or understand the root problems.. Dying at 33yrs old was no age . Bramwell was a confused, lost soul...A victim of mental health which wasn't recognised back then...💔 RIP Bramwell..🇬🇧🌹🌹
If I ever get my dream trip to the UK, I’ll go to the that pub! I can relate to poor Branwell. And I agree. They should make the pub more Victorian, an experience. It just looks like any other bar (pub). Boring. 🤷♀️. They’ve got the people already there! They’re there FOR the Brontes!. Make it part of the experience.
Really enjoying your content , i visit Haworth a few times a year , i think its my favourite place ever , did a ghost hunt last year and there was quite a bit of info on Branwell , i was suprised how near the parsonage is to the pub , like literally on his doorstep 😳😊
My fascination is with Branwell too, I'll be having a pint in the Black Bull for the first time on Tuesday. I'm gonna be there for a week . Thanks for the video, buddy. 😀
I'm actually sitting in the same spot as you in this video now. They have a new landlord who's just taken it on last week, showed him your video amd he wants to correct the inaccurate information on the sign now, all because of your video, he's mentioned wanting to really turn the pub into a Branwell experience and push it more as a place to visit. Let's see hay. Feels so magical sat here, mate. Thank you for your video, I'll have a pint for you. Landlord actually bought me a pint and a double whisky for showing him your video 😊
@@OwenAbc Hi Owen!!! How nice of you to remember me when you’ve gone in there!!! You’ve honestly made my evening- how brilliant! (I wonder if the fires lit🤣.) Wow regarding talking to the new landlord about the sign - but quite a few have mentioned it but nothing was done. If you get that fixed I’m going to have to go up there and do a special video aren’t I?? Thank you again so much for texting … means a lot. Enjoy your pint and given that I’m not there I’ll let you drink mine. Tez
Tell the landlord that if he’s serious about changing it we can ask Anne Dinsdale (head curator at the parsonage) to write the wording. She’d love that … and I would def make a video!!
This is an excellent insight, fantastic that its location is a core feature of Branwell’s profile and narrative. Ps. With respect, the repetition of the background music is out of context and highly, highly irritating.
Ironically, a pivotal reason for people not dying at 22 in Haworth any longer was due to Curate Patrick Bronte who got an inspection from the Health Board which began the improvements to town infrastructure. Pity it was too late to save his own children. PS: Interesting choice of MB. I've never heard Beethoven's fifth symphony arranged for string quartet. Probably could have lowered its volume by a few db.
This makes me think of Byron. And how they were different people who had troubled lives. But Byron was more of a predator because he was richer. But both had a doomed fate.
I always felt (without empirical or anecdotal justification, I admit) that Branwell's main pressure was growing up as the only young male in a house of four women (six originally.) You did allude to that, though, obliquely. But you did omit to mention the earlier accusation of false accounting and theft. And Lydia Robinson did claim that the 'affair' was all a product of Branwell's fantasy. We'll never know, will we?
Thank you very much Nate. I did ask that question once on a Facebook Bronte group … the overwhelming answer was that no, nothing was done posthumously. I really appreciate you liking and subscribing, Tez.
nicely done as England continues to impress. young men do fair better with guidance in early life. they require friendship and must be starting in earnest to begin preparation for work in some capacity (in whatever field is available and would best suit them). apprenticeships, for example, are a certain boon to most any young sir. and that would apply to young men everywhere living in any period. one can do so much with a bit of knowledge or skill, even if of the more humble kind. after all, we can't all of us be hedge fund investors or great authors! ☺ h'ya!
people always make such a big deal about branwell's drinking. Most single young men drink and that was even more the case in the 1840s. Did he really drink himself to death? None of the girls drank and none of them made old bones, nor did the mother.
Hope you don't mind me saying this, I enjoy your videos, I like your style of delivery, but please why why why have we got to put up with the same few bars of Beethoven's 5th on a loop over and over and over for 16 minutes plus? For me it was absolute torture (and I'm a classical musician), it was a real effort of will to watch till the end, and it's not as if a German composer born in Bonn and living most of his life in Vienna had any significant connection with Yorkshire! But I do like your videos.
Thank you Frankie. This was my very first ever video and my first time in front of a camera - and yes the music choice wasn’t great. You live and learn 🤷♂️😳🥺🙄. I appreciate your comment very much. Tez
very interesting. If the music wasn't there, It would be like having a chinwag with you. Agree about the pub being too modern. Pubs in Britain all look the same these days, Does it have the horrid blackboards with food specials on ? I loved the Royal Standard of England near Beaconsfield. It lays claim to being one of the oldest in Britain / England. I wonder if that still has the same character,.
I’m so sorry I missed this comment! Yes you’re right about English pubs, they can be over modernised and all end up looking the same! I think it does have the blackboards 😆. Thank you so much for your comment, Tez
My cousin Freddy was a genius but peaces geldolf gave bim heroine znd be died aged 18, of a dodgy batch. He might have lived another year if he hadn't been let out of school early, because of his high intellect. A lot of geniuses are highly strung. So if they are male they are more likely to be unwise. The girls were safer at getting their achievements. Poor Branwell must have felt burdened and outnumbered by women. The sister or my cousin Freddy is wise aswell as very clever, so she is a success. .
The music is loud and distracting. It makes it difficult to focus on what you’re saying. I watched your video for 2:34 then moved on to something else.
I always found the theory in "Cold Comfort Farm" that Branwell was the real author of all the novels, and that he pretended to be a drunk to somehow cover up for his sisters stealing his work. But the whole point of the theory was Branwell was the real genius of the Bronte family! I would love to hear more about the father, as he seems a good person and the sadness of losing his sisters and knowing he was a disappointment and disgrace to his family.
I’ve always felt sorry for Branwell. His life was sad. I’ve got so many books on the family I feel related to them 😁 the pub has changed inside since I last visited and I did sit on his favourite chair(it could have been the replica) but it felt special. I liked your video but i have a complaint...sorry but Beethoven in the background was very annoying while listening to you talking...other than that great! 👍
Hi Sandra. There’s now a sign on the chair warning people not to sit on it (or otherwise I would have sat on it too!!). I feel sorry for him too … lots of pressure on those shoulders. Sorry about the music … I can get a bit carried away at times 😬🙄. Tez
@@verynearlyinteresting Yes, Branwell had a very sad and unhappy life which led to drink and drugs. Unlike today he never had professional support for his addictions. As his friend Leyland wrote about him Branwell was more sinned against than sinner. Poor, brilliant man.
@@verynearlyinteresting 😃 it was lovely music though...I’ll forgive you 😉👍 shame about the notice on the chair. I was very lucky . Yes you have to feel for him, all those sisters 😬
If you want old and authentic, there is a tiny pub in Keswick that you will love. I can't remember what it's called though but I know it's not too far from the park.
Branwells probably rotating in his grave at the wording of that plaque, and if he walked into the Black Bull today he'd probably tear the landlord a new one...
Plaque should probably read 1833, when BB would have been 16? An impressionable young man introduced to freemasonry and booze by, was it, John Brown? Just wondering out loud. Fascinating. Many thanks.
@@terriseaton3049 I’ve never read anywhere that there’s a link to the song. It would be great if there was wouldn’t it!?? Maybe Paul Simon knew the story but never talked about it … ? Great comment. Tez
That sign has definitely been lost in translation. I guess the birth/death dates would be fine if done in brackets after his name, indicating his life span rather than implying that’s when he was drinking there! As for the Freemason date, is that a “typo”? Should it be 1838 instead of 1883? Or was it a symbolic posthumous appointment many years later?
Branwell was a mental ill addict. Probably had a lot of stuff going on. He seemed quite immature from what I've read of him. He should have known there was no way Mrs Robinson viewed him as anymore then a plaything. Affairs were common and tollerated amoung the rich as long as they were kept decrete. Exposure was a no no. Lydia went on to marry another rich guy and dump him as soon as her husband was dead. Her family also warned him off. He already had a history of lost positions and opportunties and blaming others for his actions. He was too blame too. He was just a mess. His family fawning over him probably didn't help either. He was obvious she was never going to marry a poor guy and one with no position or pospects.
Background music is misplaced and the presenter as far too keen on messing with the camera pointed at himself. Various gestures and pauses are meant to make us think that he is somehow wise but fails and is ridiculous. Some of his features are a lot better so worth a look.
What a bizarre comment, as someone who works in the media, film predominantly, I think this video is excellent. My nan used to say, if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all...
@@verynearlyinteresting I enjoy your videos a lot but I did find the background music here too loud against your voice and I think it was a bit overused as well. It became something of a distraction in a (very nearly) interesting video. Btw do I detect the dulcet tones of a fellow Stokie? 😂
@@bromptonspotter Yes I do get the odd comment about the music … 😬. And yes I am a fellow Stokie!!! Thank you for your nice comment and sorry about the music. Tez 😊
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I believe that the Bull inn was used as a filming location in the Railway Children return where there's a fight between white and Black American GIs and the Bronte's home is also a filming location too
In 1946 Hollywood made a highly fictionalised film, ‘Devotion ‘, about the Bronte family. In it a lovely poem by Branwell was quoted :
“ Amid the world’s wide din around
I hear from far a solemn sound
That says, ‘Remember me ‘.
And solemn as a funeral knell
I hear that soft voice known so well
Cry, ‘Oh, remember me ‘. “
If Branwell walked into The Black Bull today I’m sure he would be very moved to know that we DO remember him 💔. Thank you so much for this ❣️.
What a lovely poem, thanks Christina, and thanks for commenting. Tez.
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This poem should be on the wall remembering Bramwell.
It seems that Branwell couldn't live up to his family's expectations of him. Cocooned in that house his early years must have left him with the thought that he could conquer the world, however reality soon told him he wasn't as brilliant as he thought. From then on he lost the will to work hard and gave himself over to drink and opium. The reality of what he had become dismayed and distressed his family and he ended up a rather pathetic man and death was his escape from a very sad life.
I watched 'to walk invisible ' I agree it was brilliant, particularly Chloe Pirrie in the role of Emily Bronte.
🎶Here’s to you, Mrs. Robinson…🎶
I found out not too long ago that the Mrs. Robinson from The Graduate was named for Lydia Robinson.
My mother told me that her great, great, great grandfather (not sure whether it’s 3 or 4 “greats”) was the landlord at the Black Bull at that time and he drank himself to death with Branwell. I visited Haworth, with her, a few years ago. We walked past the pub but didn’t go in. It’s fascinating to see it inside. Thank you.
Wow that’s quite an amazing story! Thanks for sharing 😊. Tez
@@verynearlyinteresting You’re welcome. I’ve just checked and it’s 3 x great for my mother and 4 for me. His name was Enoch Thomas. He was six years older than Brandon and died the same year that he did. From what you were saying it sounds like there could’ve been a bit more than alcohol involved. It was lovely to hear him mentioned in the video - although being a bad influence on Brandon is not the best reputation! 😂 Thanks anyway
@@JoButterwick my grandad told me the same story about enoch, so were related aha
@@JoButterwick my grandad told me Enoch was also mentioned in one of the sisters books referring to him as the "devils thumbs"
@@Max-wv5gh Hi Max. That's so cool! Welcome to the family! Thanks for the info - I didn't realise that Enoch was in one of the books. We're almost famous!
I have a theory about Branwell. Every tumultuous event you describe from Branwell’s life describes a person suffering from Borderline Personality Disorder.
If you look up the Wikipedia page for this disorder, there is a section listing famous fictional characters who display clear signs of the disorder. Catherine Earnshaw from Wuthering Heights tops this list.
Borderline Personality Disorder was only officially recognised/classified as a disorder in 1980, so Emily could not have simply researched the illness in an encyclopaedia or journal to obtain material for Wuthering Heights.
For Emily to so accurately describe this disorder (in her creation of the Wuthering Heights character, “Cathy”) 130 years before the disorder’s classification, I believe she was astutely observing the (BPD) behaviours she found in her brother, Branwell. Just a theory.
Wow!!! Thank you so much for this, a very well argued point indeed. Tez
I agree. I have always believed that Branwell was probably bipolar.....perhaps even Emily. It was an unknown disease then and therefore no treatment and no medication. I am sure most sufferers self-medicated and became addicts. It's not fair that he's known as a drunk/addict when more than likely he was fighting a battle of the mind with whatever means available. Being the only son, the pressures on him would have been many.
I love this! I am American and ended up visiting Haworth on a month long trip kinda by happenstance. Ended up becoming obsessed with the Brontes because of it. Went to all the Hot spots. I love the film To Walk Invisible.
Hi Alexandra, I love it too! One of my favourite films! Thank you so much for watching. Have a look too at my recent video about a possible photograph of the brontes, I think you’ll like that one. Tez 😊
Yes, just watched that video first! That one popped up in my feed and it's how I found you! Well done.
@@alexandracash8106 Ahhh ok!!! I notice you’ve done a video from your England trip … I’ll watch it later! Tez
Family lore has it that my great, great, grand father used to own mills near Haworth. A regular visitor was the Rev. Patrick Bronte. The servants were instructed that when they saw the good Reverend coming across the moor to visit, they were to virtually empty all the whiskey, port decanters etc because the Reverend wouldn't leave until they were completely empty. So the story goes......
Not surprising, Patrick was very much an Irishman.
This was an actually very interesting biography of Branwell. What a tragic figure! He was, as you said, the natural hope of a family of sisters, moderately talented, and could have been able to be a respected man in his town and his own home. One factor that might have been touched on was the constant specter of death in that family. It must have been on everyone's mind that tuberculosis or any communicable disease would take more of them. Did he think he was up to the burden of carrying his family through? I doubt it.
I would suggest eliminating the music or softening it greatly.
Always loved Branwell, they sat me in his chair when I was about three 😅then I became a hippie on leaving home, still am at 72 . Hahaha, great video❤
Excellent work on this. More Literary Tours, please.
Thank you … and hopefully I will do! Tez
You should do a video on their father, Patrick, he was very intelligent & interesting too & had a part in getting reservoirs built in the area to being clean water to his parishioners. I think he is often forgotten about too, the man that fathered the Bronte’s.
Hi Susan. That’s a really good idea!!! Tez
And educated his daughters along with Branwell. They later went on to an academy in Brussels.
He outlived all his children and his wife by quite a margin too. He was 84 when he died
That plaque is absolutely ridiculous 😂
Thank you for this. I have visited Haworth a few times and it's one of my favourite places. I know what you mean about the pub, it's nice but needs a few tweaks imo. Yes, I agree that 'To Walk Invisible' is an amazing production and I think a fairly accurate representation of the family, the times and the stress and despair of the family. They lost their mother, siblings, and life could be tough. In Branwell' s case, add mh issues, heartbreak and addiction to the mix and it's even tougher. I find Branwell to be the most interesting of the four, and am drawn to him the most. When I visited Haworth about 5 years ago I was going through a horrendous time in my life. I drew huge comfort and insight from my visit to the Parsonage and The Black Bull. I felt a huge weight come off my shoulders and realised ' yes, somebody else felt how I feel ' ; suffering is universal and timeless. I think if Branwell came back today he'd be rather amazed and fascinated. He'd want to discover and discuss everything he saw. I wish he knew how much he had actually achieved and that he is remembered. I adore his poetry, in my opinion it's the sort of stuff that touches the soul. Thanks again for the video. I live in France now but you've encouraged me to plan another visit to Haworth.
Thank you very much for your lovely comment Teresa 😊
Beautiful and thank you.
Just found your wonderful channel this Saturday evening. Spent a lovely and entertaining evening watching your videos. What a gifted storyteller you are!
What a lovely comment to wake up to!!! Thank you so much. Tez
Sad about Branwell really. I read that he became a believer in his last hours. When his father prayed at his request, he then said Amen at the end of the prayer, previously not a believer
I didn’t know that about Branwell!
Brandon also provided the basis for the character of Arthur Huntingdon, in The Tenant of Wildfell Hall, with his descent into alcoholism.
Very good point!
I'm new to your channel and love dedication to history and your thoughts on topics. Thank you for your time & effort in making history come alive
Thank you so much Michelle, that’s lovely of you to say so. Tez
Thanks to you, I'll be visiting the Black Bull this year in October. Thanks also for your retelling of Branwell's story which sadly goes unnoticed by most considering his siblings success. Cheers and good luck for the future.
Thanks for your comment, Matt. I hope you enjoy your trip in October.
I've known a couple of people like Bramwell, successful parents or siblings, and they couldn't find their own footing in the world. But I think you've made a valid point, Charlotte might have still strived for a published novel, she had a drive to prove herself. Anne, possibly. Emily, I doubt it. She was perfectly comfortable in her own world. So, here's to you, Bramwell. Look forward to more of your videos😊
Thank you very informative I read Wuthering Heights and Jane Eyre when in a school in India
11:35 In one of Charlotte's letters, I can't remember which one at the moment, she said she was that Branwell died not knowing his sisters wrote these novels.
Thanks so much for the info. It’s probably best that he didn’t know I suppose. ☹️. Tez 😊
I think I remember reading that plaque when I was in Haworth last, because it was so ridiculously inaccurate I thought everything it said must have been a lie and dismissed any connection it might have had to Branwell.
I wouldn't be surprised if that plaque is a contributing factor to why tourists who are into the Brontë's do not visit the pub.
I think that too … it must put some people off. I tell anyone in that pub who will care to listen but they never do anything about it 🙄. Thanks for watching and commenting, hope you enjoyed it. Tez
Fascinated by the Brontes love Haworth and the Black Bull is very atmospheric thank you
He could paint, write poetry, and write with both hands _simultaneously_ , but he was the failure of the family !
Just want to say that, from what I've read, this is a very accurate and definitely interesting exploration of Branwell Bronte and his life. Thank you.
Oh thanks Curt! Tez
We visited the Black Bull and sat where you are unknowingly that was Branwell did! It was a very eerie pub and I am sensitive to spirit, I could definitely feel a presence
Excellent stuff Tez keep up the good work. I visited Howarth and the Bronte Parsonage yesterday for the second time. I recommend it to anyone. It's incredible.
Thanks Richy 😊
Thank you for doing this video……I throughly enjoyed it! History is everything!
Thanks so much Patricia! Tez 😊
Myself and a Freind visited Haworth in 2018. We stayed in a pub at the top of the street, called the White Lion. We went in the Black bull and the couple other pubs further down the hill. Its a quaint village. You can see it all in a day no probs. Visted the Parsonage. The grave yard is fascinating. It was good to walk in the footsteps of the Brontes. I could picture them struggling up the bank like we did.😏
Given how hard life was for the girls I've always resented Branwell wasting money on drinking himself to death. So was very interesting to learn the landlord plied him with free booze in exchange for entertainment. Ty for another great video 😊
Thank you Sapphire, that’s very nice of you to say. This was my first ever video … bit nervous. Tez
Yeah, agree with you! Selfish. Seems his descent and death was particularly hard on Emily.
Yep. Studied the Brontes at uni, and thinking of those three frail wisps of girls giving up their food for the brother who was considered the talent of the family still, decades later, evokes strong feelings.
I sympathize with Branwell. Intellectuals are not coarse and resilient creatures. Being the only boy among such talented sisters was another burden. Free will is an illusion. He was subject to circumstance as we all are. Wish I'd known him.
Mrs H 🇬🇧 ...Alcoholism is known today as a dangerous symptom ... His sister's where being sort of successful ( Which carry on today ) but Bramwell was a lost, Depressed soul... We have more to offer today yet many struggle...Drugs & alcohol are a destroying symptom of what's actually going on... Bramwell was ill & back then people seen what was in front them.. they didn't see or understand the root problems.. Dying at 33yrs old was no age . Bramwell was a confused, lost soul...A victim of mental health which wasn't recognised back then...💔 RIP Bramwell..🇬🇧🌹🌹
If I ever get my dream trip to the UK, I’ll go to the that pub! I can relate to poor Branwell. And I agree. They should make the pub more Victorian, an experience. It just looks like any other bar (pub). Boring. 🤷♀️. They’ve got the people already there! They’re there FOR the Brontes!. Make it part of the experience.
I completely agree. I hope you get to visit soon. Tez
Really enjoying your content , i visit Haworth a few times a year , i think its my favourite place ever , did a ghost hunt last year and there was quite a bit of info on Branwell , i was suprised how near the parsonage is to the pub , like literally on his doorstep 😳😊
Thanks for posting, can I just point out I find the background music really distracting. Cheers.
@@demosthenes1296 I agree … you live and learn 🙈
Yes, it’s improved immensely 😊I’m going to drop in and toast both of you. Thanks🙏🏻😌From a lovelorn Yorkshire lass💚
Hi Gaynor!! I’ve only just seen this comment🙈
@@verynearlyinteresting 😂No probs VNI👍
My fascination is with Branwell too, I'll be having a pint in the Black Bull for the first time on Tuesday. I'm gonna be there for a week .
Thanks for the video, buddy. 😀
Oh that’s brilliant! I’m jealous … have a pint for me too 😊
I'm actually sitting in the same spot as you in this video now.
They have a new landlord who's just taken it on last week, showed him your video amd he wants to correct the inaccurate information on the sign now, all because of your video, he's mentioned wanting to really turn the pub into a Branwell experience and push it more as a place to visit.
Let's see hay.
Feels so magical sat here, mate.
Thank you for your video, I'll have a pint for you.
Landlord actually bought me a pint and a double whisky for showing him your video 😊
@@OwenAbc Hi Owen!!! How nice of you to remember me when you’ve gone in there!!! You’ve honestly made my evening- how brilliant! (I wonder if the fires lit🤣.) Wow regarding talking to the new landlord about the sign - but quite a few have mentioned it but nothing was done. If you get that fixed I’m going to have to go up there and do a special video aren’t I?? Thank you again so much for texting … means a lot. Enjoy your pint and given that I’m not there I’ll let you drink mine. Tez
@@OwenAbc I’m so pleased you got some free drinks from the video!!! Ace 😆
Tell the landlord that if he’s serious about changing it we can ask Anne Dinsdale (head curator at the parsonage) to write the wording. She’d love that … and I would def make a video!!
This is an excellent insight, fantastic that its location is a core feature of Branwell’s profile and narrative.
Ps.
With respect, the repetition of the background music is out of context and highly, highly irritating.
@@JohnJSteinbeck Thank you very much and point taken about the music. Tez 😊
Ironically, a pivotal reason for people not dying at 22 in Haworth any longer was due to Curate Patrick Bronte who got an inspection from the Health Board which began the improvements to town infrastructure. Pity it was too late to save his own children. PS: Interesting choice of MB. I've never heard Beethoven's fifth symphony arranged for string quartet. Probably could have lowered its volume by a few db.
your channel is really very A+ and we Americans love the English! 👍
What a lovely thing to say, thank you so much. Tez.
A nice little interesting chat thank you Tez. By the way I love Beethoven's Symphony No5.
Thank you John (and yes me too!) Tez 😊
I agree about the pub, i never realised until i read "profligate son" about the importance of it to the bronte story
Thanks for watching Margaret 😊
This makes me think of Byron. And how they were different people who had troubled lives. But Byron was more of a predator because he was richer. But both had a doomed fate.
I always felt (without empirical or anecdotal justification, I admit) that Branwell's main pressure was growing up as the only young male in a house of four women (six originally.) You did allude to that, though, obliquely. But you did omit to mention the earlier accusation of false accounting and theft. And Lydia Robinson did claim that the 'affair' was all a product of Branwell's fantasy. We'll never know, will we?
Great story, liking your channel and subbed, did you ask the Lodge if he was assigned secretary posthumously(memorial)?
Thank you very much Nate. I did ask that question once on a Facebook Bronte group … the overwhelming answer was that no, nothing was done posthumously. I really appreciate you liking and subscribing, Tez.
I really enjoyed this video.
nicely done as England continues to impress. young men do fair better with guidance in early life. they require friendship and must be starting in earnest to begin preparation for work in some capacity (in whatever field is available and would best suit them). apprenticeships, for example, are a certain boon to most any young sir. and that would apply to young men everywhere living in any period. one can do so much with a bit of knowledge or skill, even if of the more humble kind. after all, we can't all of us be hedge fund investors or great authors! ☺ h'ya!
Thank you for that great comment … you make a strong point, you’ve nailed it. I really appreciate you watching, Tez.
Interesting but i have never realised just how intrusive Beethoven's vth can be !
people always make such a big deal about branwell's drinking. Most single young men drink and that was even more the case in the 1840s. Did he really drink himself to death? None of the girls drank and none of them made old bones, nor did the mother.
Very good point! Tez
Elizabeth 1 died standing up.
Great place Haworth, been many times ...
Hope you don't mind me saying this, I enjoy your videos, I like your style of delivery, but please why why why have we got to put up with the same few bars of Beethoven's 5th on a loop over and over and over for 16 minutes plus? For me it was absolute torture (and I'm a classical musician), it was a real effort of will to watch till the end, and it's not as if a German composer born in Bonn and living most of his life in Vienna had any significant connection with Yorkshire! But I do like your videos.
Thank you Frankie. This was my very first ever video and my first time in front of a camera - and yes the music choice wasn’t great. You live and learn 🤷♂️😳🥺🙄. I appreciate your comment very much. Tez
@@verynearlyinteresting If that was your first video I take it all back, well done!
You look quite warm in the Black Bull: lucky they hadn't lit the fire, as you suggested.
The sisters died from TB which was rampant in those days. You are quite amusing about Branwell.
Charlotte did childbirth
Charlotte died of hyperemesis. Extreme morning sickness.
very interesting. If the music wasn't there, It would be like having a chinwag with you. Agree about the pub being too modern. Pubs in Britain all look the same these days, Does it have the horrid blackboards with food specials on ? I loved the Royal Standard of England near Beaconsfield. It lays claim to being one of the oldest in Britain / England. I wonder if that still has the same character,.
I’m so sorry I missed this comment! Yes you’re right about English pubs, they can be over modernised and all end up looking the same! I think it does have the blackboards 😆. Thank you so much for your comment, Tez
My cousin Freddy was a genius but peaces geldolf gave bim heroine znd be died aged 18, of a dodgy batch. He might have lived another year if he hadn't been let out of school early, because of his high intellect. A lot of geniuses are highly strung. So if they are male they are more likely to be unwise. The girls were safer at getting their achievements. Poor Branwell must have felt burdened and outnumbered by women. The sister or my cousin Freddy is wise aswell as very clever, so she is a success. .
I like to think... what would branwell and his sisters make of the movies about their life, if they came back from the dead.
The music is loud and distracting. It makes it difficult to focus on what you’re saying. I watched your video for 2:34 then moved on to something else.
@@charlesmiller3674 Sorry Charles. Tez
Lololol! That was so darn funny!
where can we find branwell poetry?
‘The Life and Work of Branwell Bronte’ is a book that’s available online. Tez
I always found the theory in "Cold Comfort Farm" that Branwell was the real author of all the novels, and that he pretended to be a drunk to somehow cover up for his sisters stealing his work. But the whole point of the theory was Branwell was the real genius of the Bronte family! I would love to hear more about the father, as he seems a good person and the sadness of losing his sisters and knowing he was a disappointment and disgrace to his family.
If you believe he was the real author, why would he not them published in his own name?
Struggling to concentrate with the music in the background. It’s distracting
I’ve always felt sorry for Branwell. His life was sad. I’ve got so many books on the family I feel related to them 😁 the pub has changed inside since I last visited and I did sit on his favourite chair(it could have been the replica) but it felt special. I liked your video but i have a complaint...sorry but Beethoven in the background was very annoying while listening to you talking...other than that great! 👍
Hi Sandra. There’s now a sign on the chair warning people not to sit on it (or otherwise I would have sat on it too!!). I feel sorry for him too … lots of pressure on those shoulders. Sorry about the music … I can get a bit carried away at times 😬🙄. Tez
@@verynearlyinteresting Yes, Branwell had a very sad and unhappy life which led to drink and drugs. Unlike today he never had professional support for his addictions. As his friend Leyland wrote about him Branwell was more sinned against than sinner. Poor, brilliant man.
@@verynearlyinteresting 😃 it was lovely music though...I’ll forgive you 😉👍 shame about the notice on the chair. I was very lucky . Yes you have to feel for him, all those sisters 😬
Have you considered Branwell was made an honorary secretary of the Freemasons lodge posthumously for his contribution to local history
It’s a good hypothesis … but no I don’t think it was a posthumous honour. Just clumsy writing I reckon. Tez
Charlotte said he died in his father's arms.
If you want old and authentic, there is a tiny pub in Keswick that you will love. I can't remember what it's called though but I know it's not too far from the park.
Branwells probably rotating in his grave at the wording of that plaque, and if he walked into the Black Bull today he'd probably tear the landlord a new one...
Plaque should probably read 1833, when BB would have been 16? An impressionable young man introduced to freemasonry and booze by, was it, John Brown? Just wondering out loud. Fascinating. Many thanks.
Very good point! I think you’re probably right! Tez
People died soooo young at this time 😢
The tourist board wshould correct the pub's placard.
Mrs. Robinson? As in “The Graduate”?
@@terriseaton3049 I’ve never read anywhere that there’s a link to the song. It would be great if there was wouldn’t it!?? Maybe Paul Simon knew the story but never talked about it … ? Great comment. Tez
7:22 I am watching that.
That sign has definitely been lost in translation. I guess the birth/death dates would be fine if done in brackets after his name, indicating his life span rather than implying that’s when he was drinking there! As for the Freemason date, is that a “typo”? Should it be 1838 instead of 1883? Or was it a symbolic posthumous appointment many years later?
I think you're right - it's a typo. Should have been 1838 :)
Who is this dude doing the narrating?
Branwell was a mental ill addict. Probably had a lot of stuff going on. He seemed quite immature from what I've read of him. He should have known there was no way Mrs Robinson viewed him as anymore then a plaything. Affairs were common and tollerated amoung the rich as long as they were kept decrete. Exposure was a no no. Lydia went on to marry another rich guy and dump him as soon as her husband was dead. Her family also warned him off. He already had a history of lost positions and opportunties and blaming others for his actions. He was too blame too. He was just a mess. His family fawning over him probably didn't help either. He was obvious she was never going to marry a poor guy and one with no position or pospects.
NICE PUB MAYBEE IT WAS POST HIS DEATH..sometimes happens
It’s a great pub … well worth a visit. Tez
Contrary! Irish heritage?
Ha! 400 years from now you will probably be reborn as someone else
Background music is misplaced and the presenter as far too keen on messing with the camera pointed at himself.
Various gestures and pauses are meant to make us think that he is somehow wise but fails and is ridiculous.
Some of his features are a lot better so worth a look.
What a bizarre comment, as someone who works in the media, film predominantly, I think this video is excellent.
My nan used to say, if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all...
Thank you Owen. Tez
A balanced criticism. It was my first time in front of a camera so I suppose you have to start somewhere 🙄. Tez
@@verynearlyinteresting I enjoy your videos a lot but I did find the background music here too loud against your voice and I think it was a bit overused as well. It became something of a distraction in a (very nearly) interesting video. Btw do I detect the dulcet tones of a fellow Stokie? 😂
@@bromptonspotter Yes I do get the odd comment about the music … 😬. And yes I am a fellow Stokie!!! Thank you for your nice comment and sorry about the music. Tez 😊