Heracles, Part 2 - Mythillogical Podcast

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  • In part 2 of the tale of Heracles, we follow his exploits throughout Europe and Asia to see the conclusion of his labours, his death, and ascension to Godhood.
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  • @TheHistocrat
    @TheHistocrat  2 роки тому +12

    You can also find this episode on Spotify, iTunes and Stitcher! You can find it at the links below:
    Spotify - open.spotify.com/episode/0aLGntQROIdvzk6SrpymNn
    iTunes - podcasts.apple.com/gh/podcast/heracles-part-2/id1514656609?i=1000521625941
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    • @oldmandoinghighkicksonlyin1368
      @oldmandoinghighkicksonlyin1368 2 роки тому +2

      You should put in a link to the first episode. And throw it in the video description.

    • @Confusion.and.Delay...
      @Confusion.and.Delay... 2 роки тому

      The legend of the 12 labours of Histocrat and Crofty continues.

    • @decanmuze
      @decanmuze 2 роки тому

      Hi, I was Ra-Ta in past life🤓. Where can I order a Crofty T Shirt?? Thank you for your work ⚒️⚒️

    • @mariovillarreal8647
      @mariovillarreal8647 Рік тому

      There are like 300 under ground cavern cities in Turkey. Most,only recently discovered, so maybe the Amazonian 's city is underground.

  •  2 роки тому +26

    Heracles was left behind because he was too OP and he would retrieve the golden fleece with just one club attack.

  • @Davlavi
    @Davlavi 2 роки тому +33

    Hope you do a episode on the elysian mysteries.

  • @mrtspence
    @mrtspence 2 роки тому +35

    My god it felt like forever since the first part. Just can't get enough of this series. Awesome stuff as always, lads.

  • @eirinym
    @eirinym 2 роки тому +20

    It's kinda crazy that like 90% of Herakles's tasks are just kill this/steal that.

  • @HistoryOfRevolutions
    @HistoryOfRevolutions 2 роки тому +22

    "The wrongdoer is more unfortunate than the man wronged"
    - Democritus

    • @mariovillarreal8647
      @mariovillarreal8647 Рік тому

      I am a firm believer in this saying. Once down trodden and broken after work. From a sort of attack from all sides seemingly, persecuted and worn . I stood on my front porch unable to enter my house for fear of more torment from unseen forces. But God The Holy Spirit The Great Spirit CREATOR of All Creation intervened telling me, "I'm going to tell you something I've never told anyone." And He did it in the most humorous way. Describing all these heinous acts people devise to work out on others . Then come to find out these insidious actions come full circle but for much longer in their own lap. That the cleverness and brutality they so manly projected and performed is much longer on their shoulders than they ever afflicted on others in this life of illusion. He said," Whatsoever you do in this life to others. What you think you're doing to others , you're really doing to yourself . Maybe for All eternity." When I first heard His voice I stopped crying. Next thing I remember I'm in the shower laughing like some fool as He put George Burns to shame with His poignant quips about all those dastardly fellows.

  • @ceninant
    @ceninant 2 роки тому +10

    Going to help me get through work today!

    • @kibnob
      @kibnob 2 роки тому

      NOS not doing it anymore?

  • @gluis2k
    @gluis2k 2 роки тому +10

    Great story telling. learned a lot. Thank you!!

  • @cathyruoff347
    @cathyruoff347 2 роки тому +7

    I always enjoy these thorough deep dives. Thank you for putting these together.

  • @enriquehartmann8642
    @enriquehartmann8642 2 роки тому +1

    Thank you both for this.
    In our troubled times,
    It is clutch to have some thing like your show,
    To distract and ease,
    Our troubled minds.

  • @CRAETION_
    @CRAETION_ 2 роки тому +4

    Love your work Histocrat! Please never quit!

  • @huemanbean8499
    @huemanbean8499 2 роки тому +4

    I've become a big fan of these guys 👍👍

  • @VinylTavia94
    @VinylTavia94 2 роки тому +4

    Another great video guys. I enjoy every minute of it

  • @renzolima2649
    @renzolima2649 2 роки тому +1

    Yes! Part 2 is ready for us to enjoy, finally! Thank you man, your work is so good and let me say that fills me with joy to see that you are taking the extra work of put the subtitles on. For me wich im not a native english speaker it is really helpfull to have those subtitles on. I know it should be hard to find the time to make this videos that surely take dozens of hours of investigation, analysis, edition, etc. and all that in between the busy time we all modern man live on (work, family, studies, etc.) But really your videos are all masterpieces worth of appreciation, and i think i speak for every one of your subscribers when i say thank you again for your hard work and please dont stop doing it that way. Wish you the best luck, i cant wait to get back from my job to home to sit and enjoy this second part that i waited so long!

  • @Bsliggs
    @Bsliggs 2 роки тому +2

    Thanks for pointing out which Iberia you were talking about. I was honestly picturing Heracles going to the Caucuses

  • @alienmozart9902
    @alienmozart9902 2 роки тому +2

    God, I really wish the old TV show was more like this

  • @ccpvris
    @ccpvris 2 роки тому +2

    i love this. i wish youtube gave more support to channels like yours so i made time to leave a comment. your commentary is so great and makes it so easy to listen to. keep it up!! :)

  • @s.g.johnson3403
    @s.g.johnson3403 2 роки тому +3

    One parter about Theseus? 🤔 pretty cool guy. I think he uses a club at some point too, since Hercules was sort of a role model for him

  • @kibnob
    @kibnob 2 роки тому +1

    Wonderful. Somehow it seems these myths are told so infrequently for being core cultural touchstones

  • @MilledSteel
    @MilledSteel 2 роки тому

    Great episode, definitely need more Greek myths, heroes and god material

  • @mariovillarreal8647
    @mariovillarreal8647 Рік тому

    Thank you for part two in a row. I love the " traveling minstrel music" . It as if we are on a companion journey through time with our comrade bard. An interesting exciting time. In the land of legend , myth and lore; on some far off , nearby, distant shore.... Thank you. Mario SIrSirReal Villarreal.

  • @awesomeatronik
    @awesomeatronik 2 роки тому +5

    Fun fact: in the Kevin Sorbo show, Hercules and the Minotaur where half brothers. Also I have never heard about the Crete original Hercules before that blew my mind. I also noticed that some of the older pictures of Athena, she has a Snake theme going on, what's that about? Is it something to do with Medusa?
    Another great episode you guys, thank you for doing this series.

    • @nowhereman6019
      @nowhereman6019 2 роки тому +1

      The Medusa snake thing came when Perseus gave Medusas head to Athena, which she affixed to her Aegis (shield or breastplate). However, snakes were commonly used in the ancient world as mystical animals and guardians of temples.

    • @awesomeatronik
      @awesomeatronik 2 роки тому +1

      @@nowhereman6019 I figured it was for that reason, but I'm just surprised that it seems to have been more prevalent to her characteristics than her more classical interpretations that seem to limit the snakes to Medusa's head, almost like a superheroes symbol. Mythology is like ogres, lot's of layers to peel away.

    • @Du-Masses
      @Du-Masses Рік тому

      I thought Medusa had been a priestess in Athena’s temple before she was disgraced so that’s a weird choice. The gods must be crazy,

  • @stanleystudios5186
    @stanleystudios5186 2 роки тому +12

    So, Heracles is said to have belonged to the generation that was immediately succeeded by the generation that launched Trojan War? I’ve always been a little confused by the loose-canon of the Greek mythological tradition.

    • @isprobablyjobhunting
      @isprobablyjobhunting 2 роки тому +5

      Different cities. Different versions. Different interpretations of those stories by the nerds who wrote them down over past 2k years?
      That's always been my guess.

    • @stanleystudios5186
      @stanleystudios5186 2 роки тому +6

      @@isprobablyjobhunting Thats pretty much what I’ve always assumed. I just wondered if anyone had ever worked out a rough chronology since a majority of these narratives seem to be interrelated and/or reliant on each other for context.

    • @Asimov_
      @Asimov_ Рік тому +1

      Same. It's kind of beautiful because it adds a kind of "belonging to a land outside time" feel to the myths, but it's also confusing asf as well with all the branching family trees and stories. For what it's worth, I believe that heracles was taught by Odysseus's grandfather when he was a kid, so that would likely make heracles the same generation as Odysseus's father

    • @CatotheE
      @CatotheE 11 місяців тому

      Yeah. He was either a generation or two before them. He had a son and a grandson that fought in the war.

    • @fulviopontarollo2952
      @fulviopontarollo2952 8 місяців тому

      Mmmhhh but that puts a bit of a mess in Theseus only slaughtering the Minotaur (and symbolically signifying the end of Minoan domination) after Heracles’ works menacing that event is almost contemporary to the Trojan war

  • @vdoniel
    @vdoniel 2 роки тому +1

    Very good gentlemen.

  • @andislezdins9440
    @andislezdins9440 2 роки тому +1

    This is awesom 🙂

  • @mariovillarreal8647
    @mariovillarreal8647 Рік тому

    The 7,8,9 joke always makes me laugh or at least smile! "Why are pirates sooo mean?"
    They just AARRRGGHH!!" In the capture of the man eating mares; he's choking again!

  • @CatotheE
    @CatotheE 11 місяців тому

    This was awesome.

  • @bapotet
    @bapotet 2 роки тому +8

    i ve just read iliad, now reading the odyssey so this is right up my alley these days. was wondering why part to would come up. lets thanks the gods by bringing a 1 year old bull, throw its legs in a fire and mix the wine. then lets have some games

    • @smkh2890
      @smkh2890 2 роки тому +3

      I have always loved the Odyssey but just can’t read the Iliad!
      It’s almost as though the two books were by different people!

    • @bapotet
      @bapotet 2 роки тому

      @@smkh2890 yeah i get why youd say that. the 2 books are different. odyssey is more of an adventure story. iliad is more about fighting and talking. a lot more happens in odyssey

    • @farkasmactavish
      @farkasmactavish 7 місяців тому

      ​@@bapotetWhich is not to say that a ot happens in the Odyssey, especially the first half.

  • @solomongrundy9735
    @solomongrundy9735 2 роки тому +3

    Yay!

  • @mathieuleader8601
    @mathieuleader8601 2 роки тому +1

    you might say Hercules went through some ordeals

  • @nikolajpetersen2091
    @nikolajpetersen2091 2 роки тому +1

    I wonder if Heracles opening the connection between the Mediteranean and the Atlantic is a remnant of an old myth explaining the Mediteranean (it has dried up a couple of times). This flooding has also been linked to flood myths in general if I remember correctly

  • @kxs22
    @kxs22 Рік тому

    "That was exhausting," yet i enjoyed it all the same, but sentiments exactly when it comes to heracles

  • @jamesjimb
    @jamesjimb Рік тому

    Fantastic

  • @garybarrettapex
    @garybarrettapex Рік тому

    Good work, 👍

  • @farkasmactavish
    @farkasmactavish 7 місяців тому

    1:10:13 tbh this seems like a wrestling tutorial, because...yeah, while your opponent has a solid base, there's not much you can do, so you have to throw him off balance, or, as we see Heracles do, lift him.

  • @SyntaxErr19287
    @SyntaxErr19287 2 роки тому

    Legendary

  • @bittersweet7145
    @bittersweet7145 2 роки тому +12

    Why does it feel like the most likely outcome of an interaction with Heracles is being murdered?

    • @mpcc2022
      @mpcc2022 2 роки тому +2

      Because, to the ancient world real men could and would kill. Given the regions ancient people lived in were not industrialized and constructed of domesticated societies like the ones we live in now. Also, there was no Christianity or Buhhdism, because if you were a peaceful paficist, then you are likely going to be raped, enslaved, or murdered by whomever is stronger and more cunning than you.

    • @nowhereman6019
      @nowhereman6019 2 роки тому

      @@mpcc2022 man, modern civilization is awesome.

    • @mpcc2022
      @mpcc2022 2 роки тому +1

      @@nowhereman6019 It's a hell of a lot safer.

  • @eddominates
    @eddominates 11 місяців тому

    "Those ankles tho" - Heracles

  • @TomiTapio
    @TomiTapio Рік тому

    Also go check out the art history lectures of Travis Lee Clark. If you want ancient times listening.

  • @jackcanonach4454
    @jackcanonach4454 Рік тому

    Gotta love them ankles.

  • @QalOrt
    @QalOrt Рік тому +1

    Minotaur episode when?

  • @Felicia_ilana_Zaccaria
    @Felicia_ilana_Zaccaria Рік тому

    please please do a Vid on the Gigantomachy, i first heard about it in the Percy Jackson books by Rick Riordan

  • @zachthestampede
    @zachthestampede 2 роки тому +1

    Could you do an episode on Ajax? There isn't much good content on him!

  • @deadeyebyby
    @deadeyebyby 2 роки тому

    Yeah that one

  • @moizhaseeb5803
    @moizhaseeb5803 2 роки тому

    Hey when is the next episode of the history of Britain coming?

  • @SP_3333
    @SP_3333 2 роки тому

    I have a question.
    Are the names of the various players in this tale pronounced differently in the UK vs the US?
    My mythology professor attended Oxford, but ended up teaching @ NYU.
    His pronunciation, & most other's, sounded quite different when visiting various Greek myths.
    One example: Aeschylus was pronounced Ess-kul-us.

  • @isprobablyjobhunting
    @isprobablyjobhunting 2 роки тому +1

    These rule

  • @Sinsteel
    @Sinsteel 2 роки тому

    It would be cool to know how much Herakles stuff is actually Indo-European, or pre-Greek. Some archaelogical/anthropological books claim that Herakles originated somewhere in the Black Sea region, Crimea region, and one even claims that Herakles and the Aryan/Hindu/Zoroastrian deity Indra are one and the same, but I've yet to find the connection there.
    Also, any time you see a chariot in a legend or myth, you have an Indo-European myth, or one that was derived from an Indo-European myth, or culture. Only they had horses in any numbers pre 1500 BC (Mycenaean times), and they definitely were the only ones that had chariots - which are a complex machine that required refinement of an earlier wheeled-vehicle tradition, and can't just pop up one day in a culture. They also invented the wheel for transport, as the first horse-riders, first wagoneers.
    Magical and immortality-giving apples are also common in a number of myths in Indo-European cultures, including in Germanic and Nordic mythology.

    • @sedwillful
      @sedwillful 2 роки тому

      Not quite, Greek myths were appropriated from Africa; Ethiopia and Egypt. Even the Indo-European gods.

    • @angelracing
      @angelracing Рік тому

      Krishna & Hercules perhaps the same spirit , diferent times and identity, as Indra = Yahweh or Enli the Anunaki

    • @farkasmactavish
      @farkasmactavish 7 місяців тому

      ​@@sedwillfulNot everything was stolen from Africa lmao

    • @sedwillful
      @sedwillful 6 місяців тому

      @@farkasmactavish I don't recall saying "everything".

  • @hasalast6530
    @hasalast6530 2 роки тому

    Watched part one found this on accident. Great accident. 👍😎

  • @SyntaxErr19287
    @SyntaxErr19287 2 роки тому

    What are the odds these stories came from real life experience

  • @rogermoore9477
    @rogermoore9477 2 роки тому +1

    It is not just mythology,it is real history,court of the gentiles by Theophilus Gale 1674,well it's a rare book bye

    • @angelracing
      @angelracing Рік тому +1

      YES it´s real stuff, a bit enclosured over time as myth...

    • @farkasmactavish
      @farkasmactavish 7 місяців тому +1

      The current version of the story is absolutely mythology. None of these creatures, gods, or otherworldly powers are nor ever were real.