The Bronze Age Collapse
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- Опубліковано 2 тра 2024
- DISCLAIMER I initially made this video as part of a fun hobby project without thinking it would get this much attention. I used a bunch of other peoples artwork and music to do it and as such this video is not monetised in any way. If you are the owner of any of the content in this video please get in touch via my email address included in my channel info.
In this special episode, we explore the events of the Late Bronze Age Collapse, when civilisation in the Eastern Mediterranean came to an abrupt and mysterious halt.
This episode holds a debt to Professor Eric H. Cline, whose book "1187 BC: The Year Civilisation Collapsed" was one of the main sources for this work. You can buy his book here:
www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_sb_...
His lecture is also on youtube at:
• 1177 BC: The Year Civi...
Note: The pronunciations in this episode were a complete minefield (that's ancient Assyrian for you), so apologies for any mistakes on my side.
#History #BronzeAge #AncientEgypt #AncientGreece
Let's just imagine future historians talking about the Information Age Collapse
lodevijk - it seems immanent, doesn’t it? War, war, war! No cooperation.
There could be many reasons for such a thing. Solar flares are one important possibility. Not a lot of our electronic equipment is shielded against rare events like that. Records from 1859 tell about burning telegraph stations due to sparks springing from telegraph lines. And those were comparatively robust in comparison to the fine instruments we use today.
Maybe not total collapse but certainly high damage to a lot of our information industries.
The Great Server Crash of 2039
Most of modern infrastructure is computerized. Such an event could shut down nations indefinitelt.
@@Chrytin I agree. Our age has reached its miserable zenith.
I can hear the old soldiers now, "Back in my day the bronze weapons were twice as heavy and half as effective. You kids have it too easy with this lightweight, unbreakable iron!"
Bronze swords were pretty effective compared with early iron swords.
Ok boomer
The shift from Bronze to Iron wasn't so much driven by one metal being better than the other, it was the scarcity of Tin deposits and the relatively abundant Iron bearing ores taking up the slack when the Tin supplies got disrupted, or mined out.
If you watch that program on the history channel forged in iron or something like that there is an episode that does a bronze v iron swords and there's not much in it ,it was down to the lack of tin after the bronze age collapse that iron eventually took over
@ I should of read down before replying you had already explained it
1 hr of documentary with no ads. You sir are beyond Godsend. Thank you. Thumbs up and love
UA-cam Premium is great
Shill
@@EliJahTebbensImagine wanting everything for free while you sit and do nothing. The rest of us work for a living
@@Stettafireit's UA-cam fam shit ain't that deep 😂😂😂
@@StettafireLot of assumptions there
I studied ancient history in the 1960s. There's so much more information available now. All kinds of sites have been unearthed and extinct languages deciphered. The picture of the ebb and flow of ancient civilizations has become much clearer. Excellent video.
you were a part of that…
So much Biblical archaeology
This is my jam. You couldn’t pay me to care about a history teacher talking about any of this back in high school but I live for UA-cam videos like this now.
Mr. Ryan same here man, funny how things end up.
Watch his history of Britain series. Very well done and to be continued
Matticus Bond even the simplest of animated visual aids help out it seems. Had this just been the narrator standing in front of me speaking I probably would’ve had difficulty sustaining interest. Also I think getting older and having a more complex understanding of how society works makes topics like these more relevant.
The more history you know, the more enjoyable it gets, although the more sad you are from seeing how mankind is so deceived in every generation, and currently getting worse.
Your so right.
I did history for 3 years at school so boring.
All I remember is Boudicca, and Jethro Tull ( not that folky rock group)
Now I trawl the internet for sites like this, I daydream wondering who the sea people were, what happened after410ad in Britain, etc etc
I feel like I'm looking through a pinhole of the world of millions of lives and stories, long forgotten. Each kingdom was full of real people with real desires and interests and personalities. In the year 5000, maybe they're thinking the same of us...
Up to the 20th century maybe, this century will be laughed about in the future
al gonzález maybe you and your people
Yes, I can see the future lizard people digging up graves and wondering how such an obviously wealthy species could muck up their environment!
Maybe we are just a simulation created by this far future version of us. To see where they came from.
@@decimalexercise7154 lol thats a sick theory... i like it :D
3:45 civilization 3 soundtrack kicks in. Real recognise real.
Same, I got fucking hard...
Civ 3 best civ
I KNEW I knew that music!
It was pretty hard for me to not immediately start installing civ 3 when I heard that.
I subbed and hit the bell icon immediately.
I got so hyped when the Civ 6 Egypt theme played dueing the Hittite vs Egyptian section. What a great piece of music!
Civ 3 music was the main background music...lol I'm glad I'm not the only one who caught this.
This is why I love UA-cam. I feel like I'm watching a TV documentary like I watched as a kid and that they showed in history class, but for free.
you paid for documentaries when you where a kid ?
@@serenemountain6769 My family did.
@@Phobos_Anomaly i'm impressed, never thought such thing existed ! even as a kid always watched documentaries on national tv ! : ) but you are right, in youtube its the best place to find documentaries
national tv? like state run tv? thats interesting. I didnt know state run tv stations aired documentaries.
most places in the world, youd have to buy a cable package including channels such as discovery or history channel that aired documentaries. of course nowadays youtube is a thing, and history channel is about aliens and bigfoot lol
This is what the History channel was like. Long ago. Before the dark times. Before the invasion of the Pawn stars and the Picker peoples.
I remember when TV was as clear, concise, and interesting as this. Then they sensationalised it, made it emotional, and ruined it.
Indeed. And added constant loud grating music.
@@CelticSaint
Well this one is using game music that repeats a lot so it cannot be of that sort.
And then after that they just got rid of the interesting stuff altogether and replaced it with pawn stars.
I remember when they showed documentaries like this on the History channel
Speaking of the collapse of civilization.
16:31 I've played enough of Civ to know that music anywhere. Well played
This is an Egyptian melody, modern one though
The lyrics can be hardly translated to something like this
"This beautiful girl woke up by dawn, to knead the dough, as the rooster is yelling kokokokooo"
I really had to think for a minute where it was I'd heard this. Glad I was able to find someone to confirm my suspicions 👍👍
Solid content. I wish the history channel was still like this...simple pictures and footage with narration go a long way.
Couldn't agree more. Modern re-enactment's completely ruin the immersion for me yet History channel feels they need to waste their budget on these
This is very correct. If you wanna learn a thing, you don't need it to be flashy and high budget.
ive been scouring streaming services and youtube for vintage history channel content.
Right, now they have shows about ufo's.
I have no issue with re-enactment. It is certainly more entertaining at times. But 'Murican "documentaries" are jackshit cancerous. Look at BBC, German or French documentaries... oh wait. They don't sell in the States and are never aired because they are not flashy enough. History Channel should change it's name to BSC. All their crap about aliens and conspiracies airs constantly on questionable private news channels here.
I'm so glad this isn't on the History Channel.
"Who were the Sea People?" -- *ALIENS!*
It's sad that this is literally what would have happened.
Primitive Vikings maybe...
Maybe, they'd definitely be speculating about the Sea Peoples being the basis for the Atlanteans.
@Matthew Cooper Ya, but I'm an alien watching Earth Channel watching you watching history channel. 😎
@Zhor'i Ambassador thats racist af...
Can't imagine that this is free, it's like a complete documentary, Thank you so much for your effort. Amazing video!
I’ve probably watched this 20 times because there is so much here. Your other videos are also very well done!
i could do with enlarging the maps
I'm so glad I find these history channels. Hidden gems of UA-cam.
You had me at classic Civ music. Press F for all the millions killed by Gandhi.
Lmao
F
F :'(
F
That bloodthirsty bastard
@Jeremy Kirkpatrick In the original Civilization Game from 1991, the Gandhi AI had a bug. Late in the game the computer controlled Gandhi usually adopts Democracy once India has researched it. Ordinarily adopting Democracy causes the computer controlled player to drop their Aggression Value. The Aggression Value being the value that governs the AI's diplomatic behavior. But because Gandhi's value was already at "1" and because the value was an 8-bit unsigned integer adopting Democracy would cause an integer underflow error, and Gandhi's Aggression Value would jump to the Maximum of "255," at which point the, up to now peaceful, Gandhi would become warmongering madman. If he had nukes, it could literally end the game.
I just finished Reading Dr. Clines book, 1177 B.C.: The Year civilization Collapsed. This was an enjoyable recap of the book.
Fantastic! Thoughtful, evidence-based, the history of the region (with maps!) put the collapse in perspective. The best account of the period I have seen so far.
Thank you for not spoiling everything with sweeping dramatic music and sound effects!
I don't like way the guy speaks, why?
That stuff is cool if it's done right, eg. Climax of giant battle? Yes. While he's explaining wheat cultivation? No.
You said it, so many times I have to switch off what I'm watching because of that, so irritating!!
When we return: Were the sea people really maritime warriors, or were they visitors for another planet?
[5 min later]
The sea peoples were fierce warriors that came from the sea. But new possibilities suggest otherwise. When we return: Were the sea people really maritime warriors, or were they visitors from another planet?
[5 min later]
The sea peoples were fierce...
Due to a few mistakes I found early into the video I made the difficult decision to re-upload the fixed video in its entirety. Apologies to anyone who commented/liked previously.
The finding of the Uluburun shipwreck with its huge cargo off the coast of Anatolia put an end to the theory that trade was not part of the bronze age.. The many civilizations represented give credence to the long trade route to Wales ,cornwall and Ireland.. The tin mines were played out in ancient times.
I wonder if you have access to any research regarding where Slavic people were from. They are biologically/haplogroup same as Yamnaya culture people, Scythia, Persia, Aria, India Brahmins, etc., however, culturally they completely distinguished. Slavs seemed to be from Uralic Luna ice age culture with no cultural change until they met Scythians in 5th CE in Central Europe and the rest l’ve listed above were sun culture with all the consecutive development from bronze, iron, and so on. There is no any video yet on UA-cam presenting this. Maybe you can make it? Cheers 😆
Thank you for striving for the very best information.
You did great thanks man
Reuploading is the mark of an amature.
Your videos are great! Clear, eloquent, educational, and easy to watch. Great job!
Thank you, Charles 💕 i loved this! Very good encapsulation of a huge story.
The content, the narration style and presentation are in stark contrast to the shaking, flashing and shouting so common nowadays and it comes as a relief to watch such great material. Thank you.
David T de Castro indeed! I tried to watch a documentary on the Celts and the music was so loud and jarring it made it impossible to enjoy.
He does a very good job creating his content, I just wish he had more for me to watch. Especially the history of Britain series
Ancient.... wait for it.... ALIENX!
AMEN Add to your comment the ridiculous "background" music so loud you can't think.. Bring back good ole documentaries. Good filming and informative narration. Seems so simple.
It’s the equivalent to jingling keys if front of a baby, but for adults. The documentaries on TV these days are so shitty that without the ridiculous music and sound effects, they would be boring as fuck and they know it.
I like the fact you document the sometimes embellishments of Egyptian Pharos. Other historians have suggested this to. The “Sea People’s “ May not have been much more than Mediterranean pirates taking advantage of the chaos.
They would have been exactly what they sounded like, at least: "people who arrived from the sea." Still, translation of Egyptian texts is a can of worms all its own. Even though we can translate their writings into words, we still likely lose a lot of cultural context, nuance and likely even syntax. The phrase "sea peoples" could easily have carried a connotation beyond what those two words alone imply.
@semaj_5022 kind of like scicario means hitman in modern terms but it's associated it with Mexico and South America.
China has been calling Europeans "Ocean people" "洋人" for centuries now, they haven't been all mere pirates.
Not for nothing , we should question the veracity of the claims made by many a civilization’s historian. There’s just no way they didn’t embellish to put themselves in the best possible light, with what we know about human nature in general.
Cypriot Persian and Cretan Aegean pirates specifically, according to genetic analysis and archeological studies in objects from that time
The editing and production quality on this is absolutely mental 👌 great work!
It's remarkable how your voice can command so much attention with such a data heavy topic. I can cook or paint while listening to this video and retain a lot of information, even on days with brain fog! ❤
When discussing the Bronze Age or the Iron Age, way too much stress is placed on the use of the metals to make weapons. An iron sword is no more lethal than a bronze one. A spear tipped with flint cuts pokes holes in people just as good as one tipped with bronze.
How Bronze made cultures outcompete copper cultures was that it was harder and made more durable, and more effective TOOLS. Bronze chisels and picks doubled mining production and made ornate stone architecture possible. Bronze axes and adzes cut trees and shaped wood 5 times faster than copper. When iron came around it resulted in tools that were 3-4 times as productive as bronze tools were. It was the economic output that bronze enabled that made bronze cultures more powerful than their copper using rivals- and iron cultures out produced bronze cultures. It had nothing to do with the weapons... except for the fact that the much bigger economy enabled by metal tooling allowed a kingdom to AFFORD to equip a larger army.
"A spear tipped with flint cuts pokes holes in people just as good as one tipped with bronze."
Add a shield and re-assess.
OneVoiceMore - I don’t have to, neither Bronze, nor iron swords will penetrate most shields. In fact, early iron swords the tended to be brittle, and their edges shattered on contact with other iron swords or with fittings on shields... whereas bronze, being ductile, would simply curl at the edge, and could be hammered out razor sharp with a stone in the field.
Iron weapons did not need to be sharpened as often...and that’s about it. I am not suggesting that iron weapons are not better in some regards- it’s just that they are not a winning edge over bronze. An army of bronze equipped soldiers who outnumber you are going to win, regardless.
What Iron did was make weapons CHEAPER- because iron ores are plentiful, whereas tin is scarce.
But again, iron being cheaper was not a ‘superior weapons ‘ effect, it was an ECONOMIC effect, because you could equip more men for the same amount of money.
People who think weapons win wars fail to understand that Economies win wars. Iron Age cultures did NOT win out on the battlefield. They won out in sheer economic success.
@@christopherpardell4418 Adding your comments to the video added to the understanding of the expansion and contraction of empires of the era Thank you.
devildog1982z actually- my supposition IS recognized by those scholars who are not suffering some romantic fixation on warfare.
You are simply wrong. I cast and work with Bronze. Bronze swords are in many respects superior to early iron swords ( not steel ). And if you imagine an awful lot of iron Against iron or bronze clashing in battle- you have a Hollywood idea of what battle with edged weapons is like. Your iron sword is not going thru my oak and bronze shield no matter what you pretend...
Guys like you have zero comprehension of the infrastructure required to supply iron or bronze weaponry. Mining was the single most important money making venture in the ancient world. Without mining, there IS NO IRON. Nor Bronze. Nor marble. Without cutting tools there is no timber to build a navy, or the roof of a temple- nor fuel to melt iron ore. This is not to suggest Rome’s legions were not crucial to their taking over the Mediterranean world... it is to point out that those legions would never have existed without an economy built on resource extraction. And the iron had a far Larger effect on efficiency of resource extraction than it did on the results of warfare.
Try and think about it. If you are a soldier, on campaign, you will likely USE your iron sword perhaps twice or three times PER YEAR.
If you are a miner, you will use your iron pick, hammer and chisel, 10 hours per day, 300 day per years. THAT is the circumstance in which a noticable harder ,arterial is going to make have the most effect, because it is USED the most.
That the iron was more plentiful and affordable than bronze, and the resource extraction with iron tools far more productive per man hour is what enabled larger, more well equipped armies... and sure- those larger, better equipped armies conquered lands- But the MONEY to create those army and those navies came first.
Sorry.. it stands... it was Economies that first bronze and then iron impacted most. The bigger and better equipped armies were artifacts of the economic success. Not the other way around.
Agree, are you aware of the Breakdown of The Bicameral Mind Hypothesis, it's very interesting
Well, I must admit that it has been a long time since I had the pleasure of seeing a good historic documentary. It’s not over the top action, you give accurate information in a such a way that anyone can understand. Such a shame that there are not more of these videos out there. Thanks for this .
Awesome content 👌👍👏 long time viewer here, & you keep on delivering the good stuff! Like the history channel of old, I watch this stuff when I wake up and have breakfast, put on a audio doc' while driving, and fall asleep while listening lol. I'm a history buff 😎😎😎 and always have been. Thanks for all you do, and everyone else who produces quality content!
What a great video! This was very well done and thoroughly enjoyable. I watched it all in one sitting
Ahh yes, the wet Mongolians.... who could forget such effective seamen.
Ask Japan...
Dovar dude when the Mongolians tried to invade japan their whole fleet sank... twice
Will Forrest I never said sailors! It was a sperm joke. Sorry.
Will Forrest they were the only other “Anti civilization” like the Mongols. But yes the Mongols failed miserably against Japan.
@@anasty_arisaka754 against nature not japan
This is such a good piece of work. So well produced and clearly done so with passion. Nothing but praise!
Thank you for posting this. I'm very grateful for the educational and edifying content.
Exceptionally well made. History is largely verbal and that is what makes this stand out. Just listen and it's great, what picture and video you added were a bonus.
This is a coherent and comprehensive look at an era overlooked by most. Great work!
bravo, bravo - this is why i stopped paying my tv licence
A tv license? Now that is a tyrannical government.
I sold my TV
@@HoxtonLive Id never do that - I like my 55 inch computer display
@@DQTanya I have a different reason why i sold my brain washing satanic propaganda machine 💜
And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them. For it is a shame even to speak of those things which are done of them in secret. But all things that are reproved are made manifest by the light: for whatsoever doth make manifest is light. Wherefore he saith, Awake thou that sleepest, and arise from the dead, and Christ shall give thee light.
Ephesians 5:11-14 KJV 💜
@@donnyhelmuth5112 it is advert free though. i hate fucking adverts! not sure the BBC deserve the fee they charge these days, they are not what they used to be. They do still do a limited amount of quality output but the fee has risen while the amount of quality has fallen. and, like i said, no adverts. it's almost worth paying for that alone. the joy of advert free TV and radio should not be underestimated!
Fantastic video! You are really raising the bar for historical content.
This is the most comprehensive presentation I have seen re: The "sea people" and the Bronze Age Collapse. Thank you.
This is very well done! Very informative and enjoyable.
These are thorough and fantastic documentaries. Thank you. Pictures and narration are super effective, not only that the script is tied together for cohesive and a well directed style.
This video goes into great detail about specifics of history which I like. I could watch an hour long video about each one of these civilizations
Just discovered your content. Started with "The Druids" and loving so far. Consider me a new fan.
тоже самое.
Damn Atlantian refugees causing collapses...
Underrated comment😂
HEY. It wasn't us. We went to North Africa, Wales and the Basque region of Spain.
@@tibetloga Oi us folk in wales got ylu to bugger off after a while
@Scheffelmeier and make Poseidon pay for it
Sztallone lmfao that made me full deep belly laugh😷 thank you for this
Wow, what a great video history! Thanks for putting this together.
I really enjoyed identifying which games the music came from - I've played all the Civs, and then the Children of the Nile music brought back happy memories of building Egyptian cities, too. Plus, the Wilhelm scream - hard to go wrong with that! :-)
The music and content is giving me massive Civ III flashbacks, I remember playing the Wonders of the Ancient World scenario and trying to expand the Hittites into Egypt
Excellent history channel, I like presentation, narration style, very professional without lousy music, flashing scene...
Keep up the good job..
I just realized how small the channel is! Quality content man, I was like now I want to see the history of the iron age... What, 3 vids ? 8k subs ? Man... Instant sub. =)
Thank you for another amazing video. The first video I saw was “The History of England - Documentary”, and loved it. So fascinating to learn about the land of my last names origin. Thank you again. Cannot wait for your next work. Cheers
Clear, informative and well presented documentary that does a better job than most the ones you see on TV.
Great drone footage so props to you and all the appropriate sources which have contributed to this epic scourge which remains shrouded with mystery. Hopefully more information can be attained using modern analysis.
I hear that Civilization 3 soundtrack, I love it
@@lorenbergstrom8199 Likewise!!
Civ 2 as well!
bring back some fond memories of the mid 90's for me.
Taking families on a “conquest” makes it look as though they were fleeing more than conquering
I feel the same. The theory of "Sea Peoples" has somewhat conditioned us to think these people had themselves some kind of centralised organisation but we are probably talking of people fleeing their unfortunate circumstances, possibly including famine, carrying some weaponry and engaging in occasional piracy, if the possibility presented itself.
immigrants ruining everything for thousands of years smh
@@algonzalez6853 cant tell if you are trying and failing to be ironic or just an asshole. either way i hope you get the attention you think you deserve and find the peace you deny others. SHalom
Build the wall!
@@algonzalez6853 "inmigrants ruining everything for thousands of years"...
GONZÁLEZ doesn't sounds very Anglo Saxon to me...
Superb on its own; also makes a good "UA-cam companion piece" to Paul Cooper's "The Bronze Age Collapse: Mediterranean Apocalypse". (That channel is called "Fall of Civilizations" and you probably already know about it if you're here, lol.) And, as the Histocrat says in the description, the actual material on which this is based can also be seen via Professor Cline's lecture here on YT. Altogether, you shouldn't be worrying about space aliens after watching all this material. The story is more or less accounted for; some details are still hazy, but we have an idea now.
Sorry everyone, me and my mates had a few too many down at the pub. Didn’t mean to collapse the Bronze Age
Well-presented and thought out. Very interesting.
Very well researched and presented!! A wonderful collection of images, supportive of the narrative. This is much more professional work than appears on "television". Thank you so much!
@drobertbaker: wait, why did you put television in quotation marks? Are you saying that it’s not actually television and people are only calling it that? Is it some other technology going incognito?
@@nathansolbach5592 This was made by one person as "part of a fun hobby project". Professional "television" people with budgets and experienced staff regularly produce much more amateurish and less sophisticated presentations than this.
I watch a lot of bronze age/collapse UA-cam content and this is still one of the best.
A really interesting overview. Clear and concise.
What’s interesting is following the written language of these cultures and how it connects the different nations and people. Also many symbols that link us with places you would never think.
Great video. I've always been a bit skeptical of the "Sea Peoples" theory. No doubt they existed and played their part, but they almost certainly weren't the juggernaut they are sometimes portrayed to be. Drought, earthquake, volcanic eruption; mix one or more of those with wars and a few poor decisions and you have a recipe for collapse.
the people of the sea were neither pirates nor any strangers. they were Minoans who colonized almost all the Mediterranean and had the most powerful navy and no one could face them. in Egypt let's say if you read the history of the Minoans they had built an entire harbor of their own the interests to facilitate them in the trade they did.
@@user-qm8gh3eo1u there is more and more evidence of a long drought happening then, that can easily destabilise an empire. it would be easier to invade ..so i say it is probably a few causes together.
I spend many hours in my kitchen conjuring up culinary works for my own and others' delight; this is the sort of excellent content which enhances my pleasure in the kitchen.
That civilization 3 background music brought back so many memberberries
I member!!!!!!
Very enjoyable content and well narrated. Look forward to more. 👍
This is one of your best documentaries. I watch it again often. Cheers!
I liked this alot. Love when people make informative history documentaries.
The amount of detail is amazing. Well done Mr Histocrat!
Magnificent documentary! Superbly explained!
One of the better ones on all of UA-cam?
I like how you used the music from the settler stone age of the Civilization games. It's a nice touch.
Great work, thank you for making this or finding whoever did
Makes me want to play Stronghold Crusader for some reason
Thanks for this excellent documentary. Simply done and highly informative. Well done.
Great introductive video. Using Rava's art was a nice touch. Cheers!
This video takes me back to the documentaries I used to watch on the history channel before it became all aliens. Just watching a random documentary on a Saturday afternoon after the cartoons and before the evening TV
Another brilliant episode. Thank You!!
Hearing the Civ2 music, started to make me cry 😂
This video is great, definately saving it.
Few essential graphics and a concise telling... All docs should be done this way... Looking forward for your next 'performance'....
The slight Valley Girl inflection is baffling and hilarious
I really never care about things like that but it was very distracting for me.
Omg? Yes? I thought no one else? Noticed it? It's very distracting?
It could be worse...Chills could have been the narrator.
We learn so much about Egypt in school it's really cool to learn about "the other guys." It's cool to know they were a force to be reckoned with. It makes me wonder what their culture was like, and who would be descended from them toay.
So far Assyrians still exist, although now speaking Aramean and praising Jesus Christ. Look em up.
Amazing video! Some of the most straight forward, understandable and certainly the most entertaining content for this time period! Thank you so much for making this awesome video!
According to my studies from the History channel.
I'm not saying that the bronze age collapses was aliens, but aliens.
I love the work you put out man, I'm a big fan of history and the art and narration style you use keeps the episodes enjoyable.
Idiot. The bronze age collapse was atlanteans.
@@tetragrade twat. The collapse was due to globalist free mason nasa shills
@@tetragrade The Atlanteans where long dead, they died off during Noah's flood
I love your videos. They make me feel so calm and help me get through the work day. The way you begin each sentence as tho its a question is iconic.
Iconically awful
Last year revelation: Philistines DNA was Aegean/Mycenians. That match with archeological evidence: pottery, buildings. Greeks start an internal war and later migrated to Egypt and other destinations.
I know it’s been a year but if you somehow remember the source for this I’d love to see it!!
@@Senpatriarch More info on the second edition of Eric Cline book 1177 B.C.: The Year Civilization Collapsed
Good documentary. For further reading I highly recommend Eric H. Cline's Book "1177". He attributes the collapse of the Bronze Age Mediterranen civilizations to far more than just the Sea Peoples. There also seems to be a new direction in historic sciences to take more factors into consideration than just the invasion of a largely unknown foe.
Or better yet (in addition to this excellent summary) also watch Professor Clines lecture on ‘1177, the year civilisation collapsed’ right here on UA-cam . He is a really great lecturer! BTW , loved this histocrat! Thanks for making it.
Climates Change then the the Hords fall on the civilizations like a pack of wolves.
Constantin Weiler earthquakes
It’s refreshing to find signs of literacy in UA-cam comments. And I followed your selection and got the book. Thank you.
Constantin - I am actually reading that book now. It's incredible. At first I admittedly skipped around to the parts relating to Minoan and Mycenaean collapses, but then started it from the beginning. He offers a compelling amount of theory and evidence that it wasn't a single factor, but rather a combined clusterfuck of disasters - Sea Peoples, internal rebellion, natural disasters, famine, collapse of trade and literacy, etc - that were each a factor.
I have watched all your documentaries (currently all 4) and have to say that I loved all of them. Looking forward to more.
You are a truly skilled narrator and talented presenter. A really great combination of music, pictures and footage, as well.
Thank you very much for this update lesson. Simple, clear and merely complete. Until the next state of arts.
Civilization III music at the beggining made my morning. Such good memories!!!
I really appreciate the effort you make creating these videos. Please continue the good work. You deserve more subscribers.
That civ 3 music got me liking the video without thinking.
An excellent production. It reminds me of the documentaries on the history channel when it actually had historical stuff in it. Fantastic work!
But... but... but... In 30 or 100 years "American Pickers" and "Ice Road Truckers" will be history (of how a once fascinating cable channel deteriorated and ultimately failed.)
Heard that Civ VI Egypt music and had flashbacks lmao fantastic work
Very well done indeed. Not the average Slapdash meta-history used to glue populist (Simple) "History" Together. This program requires thoughtful involvement of an interested viewer, too. History is in part, detective work, and is as much taking things to pieces as putting them(back) together. This program "Reverse engineers" popular historical notions such as The Sea Peoples" and goes into what is evidenced in the historical record as it is understood today. Really the sort of program so badly needed in the face of the unfortunate trend toward Revisionism, particularly as involves understanding of Ancient History.
For how critical the BA is to modern population genetics and cultural histories, I can't believe its not THE most studied period
thank you for your work!
I'm watching again for the 100th time. Needing this right now in light of everything going on.
Around 53:40, I was like “wait...those drums sound familiar...”, then I heard the horns.
Good Ole’ Civ 3
the whole vídeo is CIV 3 soundtrack and i love it
Brillant i first heard it 32min mark and its civ2
Edit 32.42
your numbers will bloom soon these videos are made really well
Well-paced with beautiful imagery. Compelling proposition for the muti-faceted cause of collapse. As I listened, I was struck by the infancy of the USA.
The CIV3 Music is just the icing on the cake! Excellent video!
The Egyptians lived in the same time period. I think that it's reasonable to think that they weren't lying about the sea-peoples unless very strong evidence to the contrary turns up. A lot of these "questions" that are raised are just silly. "Why did it take them a decade to reach Egypt?" You might as well ask "Why did it take the Goths centuries to reach Rome?"
It would be strange if there weren't other reasons for the Bronze age collapse than just a ravaging horde of Barbarians destroying everything but this revisionist history tends to go too far I think (or pretend to for shock value, like "the historians have been wrong all along!" or "This brand new theory makes the old theory false!"). Just because the collapse of Rome was complicated and took a long time and it would be too simplistic to say that "the barbarian hordes destroyed Rome" that doesn't mean that incursions from Germanic peoples and the Huns had nothing to do with Romes fall.
I'm sure that the Hittite empires fall, for example, was brought about by other hostile incursions than just the "Sea peoples" but it still seems likely that the Sea peoples were a big contributing factor to making the disaster cascade the way it did and cause so much more damage than previous invasions, conflicts, natural disasters and famines.
And there was probably a reason why the Sea peoples started doing what they were doing and why they were successful at it. Maybe a famine, maybe overpopulation. But that doesn't mean that the old theory is false. Just that it, unsurprisingly, doesn't give the whole picture.
Also, there's no reason to get hung up on the term "sea"-peoples. Nothing says that these groups were incapable of travelling on land just because they attacked Egypt from the Sea (they are described as having brought carts with them which you'll note are only useful on land). And they were composed of many groups of people. Some of those groups may have had a stronger connection to the sea than others.
The Sea peoples probably caused a lot of destruction at the same time of the bronze age collapse because those states were weak at the time so they could take advantage. Maybe they were refugees fleeing famine or maybe (as I've seen suggested) they were mercenaries that hadn't been payed for a long time as a result of the relative peace between the super-powers that preceded the collapse. Whatever the reason the collapse of trade that resulted, combined with the famine and possibly an earthquake or other natural disaster this would have caused a cascading event that we call the Bronze age collapse.
Like the Vandal sack of Rome the sea peoples attacks would have been a momentous event that people remembered and could blame for their troubles even if it was more of a symptom of the problem than the cause (or more like the executioner than the judge or the committed crime if that makes sense).
Agreed with the general sentiment. Though long-term catastrophes and underlying problems might more easily escape history's notice (e.g. slowly reducing food growth).
One thing to note though: I wouldn't expect the 'sea peoples' to be a major force on land. These seem to be people who use a marines strategy: land, sack a city, then sail away, not allowing the enemy army to engage them. The Ugarit letter speaks of seven ships doing major harm because his own main army isn't there. I don't know what troops they would carry, but assuming 50-200 each would get us to 350-1400 attackers.
That would seem sensible to me: naval forces are a major investment. It's unlikely that such a marine army could really challenge the might of an empire (hence Egypt beating them back), but as long as they hold naval dominance, they can raid the enemy into the ground and escape any major counter-attack.
(I am focusing here on the sea peoples; several other invading groups aren't listed as such, of course)
I don't think we can attribute this to mass migration: it seems unlikely you could or would embark an entire people on ships. Nor would it be bandits or disgruntled mercenaries, who can be a pain but aren't likely to have the numbers and organization to cause so much havoc. I'm thinking a major war by a nation used to naval raids as a strategy.
Interestingly, this does seem to match the strategy used against Troy in the stories.
@@sorsocksfake They were only sea people to ramses, he predecessor only used that term for a few of them. Also they didn't have our information networks, how much did the Egyptians know of what happened further north?
I think 1 thing common in all old civilization is that their lands become desert because of removal of vegetation around them building large city and roads.
Bill Parr No, absolutely not.
@fluff because modern cities do not turn to deserts lmao come on man! Really?
@@celtlordcologne110 was the Dust Bowl modern enough for you?...
Im not trying to sound ignorant, but even with their cities, weren't there still more organic matter and vegetation left than not when or if compared to modern cities?
@Marcos 989 If you think the plow was the cause you still don't understand as much as you think. The plow was common the world over, but the Dust Bowl only happened in a very specific place at a very specific time for very specific reasons. None of the reasons was the plow. I'm American too. If you made it through school thinking you're "mildly intelligent" you're just as stupid as the rest. Everything is on a curve, and in my experience even the tiniest glimmer of real intelligence puts you off the charts. If you were "mildly intelligent" your contradiction would have slapped you in the face without me having to point it out for you.