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  • @NiallKelly
    @NiallKelly  2 місяці тому +8

    do you still think there's a chance Pokemon Horizons is in the same universe as Ash Ketchum?🤔

    • @wazzawarrior5715
      @wazzawarrior5715 2 місяці тому

      Hopefully he returns or otherwise they are just wasting our time

    • @jimmyhook4852
      @jimmyhook4852 2 місяці тому

      YES

    • @shadowwizard2383
      @shadowwizard2383 2 місяці тому

      @@NiallKelly no and the VA is doing other VA jobs now so she is busy and since this is Japan if she gets sick or just doesn’t want to do the role again ash won’t be coming back unless they age him up and that is the only way I even want ash back is as an adult with his kid brother lei. Want them to retcon what a Pokémon master is that its a title you get in a PWC that only champions, gym leaders and elite 4 can enter.

    • @vincenzorafaelsuarez6644
      @vincenzorafaelsuarez6644 2 місяці тому

      ​@@jimmyhook4852 a big no for any of us
      There is a lack of change or a chance to bring Ash-Satoshi Ketchum back

    • @vincenzorafaelsuarez6644
      @vincenzorafaelsuarez6644 2 місяці тому

      Nah, I don't think it's necessary to make his return unless as a guest star.
      He has died, struggled, outsmarted, etc. a lot from Kanto to Kalos and deceived, broke the fourth wall and progressed through from Alola to Galar
      Let Liko and Roy do their own thing in the same universe as Ash-Satoshi Ketchum.

  • @billiezeiszler608
    @billiezeiszler608 2 місяці тому +12

    To me, whether it takes place in the same universe or not doesn't matter. What matters is that I love Horizons and it's some of the best the anime has ever been.

  • @mitshah9869
    @mitshah9869 2 місяці тому +3

    Horizons is definitely a separate universe
    Thinking to bring Ash into this might not be the best idea

  • @ThePokeRaf
    @ThePokeRaf 2 місяці тому +4

    Horizons is proving itself to be a good series with its distinctions and uniqueness. I think you’re right about there being maybe some indication about the universes being linked, but this series is doing a good job at misting things between them 😂🥲 guess we’ll wait and see. Great video bro ❤️🫡

  • @alolan_ace
    @alolan_ace 2 місяці тому +2

    I think they've done a smart move by keeping it vague until it matters, if it ever does. Coz if we had confirmation without them doing a proper crossover, all we'd get online is "When is Ash gonna return?" "Why wasn't Ash here??" etc. I personally am sure we'll get an old character crossing over with the HZ cast one day, but it's still far too early, yeah it's been over a year since Ash's saga ended but i feel like we're still years down the road from that. One day though, hopefully

    • @shadowwizard2383
      @shadowwizard2383 2 місяці тому +1

      @@alolan_ace I don’t want ash to return unless he is an adult and he comes from a AU from HZ so they have a reason to not include TR or oak etc. Although it is way past time for someone to return because it always happens around ep 50 and we are going to be on ep 70 soon. Also if HZ is around 150 ep like a lot of the Pokémon series then ep 75 is the halfway point but since we are most likely going to have HZ for another year became gen 10 will come out in 2026 for Pokémon 30 Ann. We might just be 1/3 thru HZ.

  • @ZeroDarkness-
    @ZeroDarkness- 2 місяці тому +6

    Likely different universes
    We already see it with Origin where Red exist and Universe Ash exist are not same
    Clue why it's not same universe
    -none of people in school of Kanto where liko once there was even mentioned about World Champion from Kanto
    -Roy never say anything about World champion from Kanto
    -Dot Uncle never talked about Alola champion that became World Champion when Volttackler visited Kanto
    -Dot never talked about world champion from kanto when they visited kanto which strange for Social influencer like her to never talked about it as Nidothing
    -when they find out about Explorers they never even say about notorious criminals gangs in Kanto (Team Rocket) even once
    -no appearance of Officer Jenny when they visited any cities which quite strange since she one of two Character that existed everywhere in Ash universe

  • @trainerfrostaura
    @trainerfrostaura 2 місяці тому +2

    I think for me I will say it’s the same universe for now, just let Horizons follow their own story until it’s confirmed. But It would be nice to see Ash at least around 16 or 18, they can do a similar approach like from Inazuma Eleven GO where Mark/Endou appears as an grown up or Beyblade Zero-G/Shogun Steel where Gingka appears as an grown up. PokeSpe/Pokemon Adventures did brought back a few of their old characters in newer generations so I would like to see the Pokémon anime doing the same thing in Horizons

  • @adantelee5017
    @adantelee5017 2 місяці тому +5

    Me personally, I don’t think Horizons takes place in the same dimension as the Ash anime, but I could be wrong, I’m sticking with this for now but when we eventually do get more evidence I’ll change my mind on it.

  • @taariqmalik1822
    @taariqmalik1822 2 місяці тому +2

    I really hope that just one day he comes back. Pokemon DID NOT bring their A game to his ending so I feel like that can't be the last time we see him, but i don't want him to return as a major character.

  • @videos43334dhdjj774h
    @videos43334dhdjj774h 2 місяці тому +3

    I want to be the same universe and i really hope that Ash will someday return in the pokemon anime, he is the world's strongest and best trainer after all

  • @ethanreconz6063
    @ethanreconz6063 Місяць тому

    Just imagine the scenes and reactions if he just randomly shows up one episode, totally unannounced beforehand. Like a passing by scene like what Ash and Alain had or something. Wouldn't want it anytime soon though, maybe in a few years when Horizons has truly established itself

  • @sbfan1906
    @sbfan1906 2 місяці тому +3

    I still like to believe that Ash and Liko live in thr same universe, it's only a matter of time until the anime proves that fact.

  • @bluefirekid
    @bluefirekid 2 місяці тому +1

    Like back then, I took Horizons as the "camera" simply being featured on someone else this time. Whether he exists or not, Ash doesn't have to be interconnected to everything. It makes the world feel smaller in that regard.

  • @Cyanidebeans
    @Cyanidebeans 2 місяці тому

    I headcanon Ash is currently at the top of a mountain just like Red in Johto

  • @UltraAfroman
    @UltraAfroman 2 місяці тому

    I'm thinking if they do take place in a different universe, could there be a chance that the rivals who only appeared in the games, will appear in the anime? I know that Jimmy, the main protagonist of Gen 2, appeared in Chronicles, but he made his debut in Pokémon Journeys, however Silver, his main rival, appeared only in the Japanese opening.
    And Kabu appeared in Pokémon Horizons, but made his game debut in Sword and Shield.

  • @gabinatorproductions8979
    @gabinatorproductions8979 2 місяці тому

    I like to think Ash might be in Kitakami right now, trying to befriend Ogerpon 😉

  • @umergulmuhammad9756
    @umergulmuhammad9756 Місяць тому

    If Ash does return
    Here are the things of Ash I want:
    Ash is now a teenager
    Almost all of his pokemon are evolved

  • @Bomboclat91
    @Bomboclat91 2 місяці тому +1

    Or let's just leave ash alone 😔

  • @ritojohto
    @ritojohto 2 місяці тому

    I'll just wait and see for now. I'm looking forward for the time when the Rising Volt Tacklers take on Lucius' Entei. Like would it be on Johto or something? It might give us some cameos or the like

  • @isaabushi9770
    @isaabushi9770 2 місяці тому

    If Ash dose return I hope it in an anime special of Pokemon legends ZA

  • @thanetastic5608
    @thanetastic5608 2 місяці тому

    If they did exist in the same universe, we’d have some sort reference to him by now. It’s highly doubtful to me by now that Horizons is in the same universe. We may never get a true answer unfortunately. But personally, it’s time to move on. What else can Ash do without it being repetitive?

  • @shadowwizard2383
    @shadowwizard2383 2 місяці тому +1

    I don’t think it’s in the same universe and I don’t want it to be ether. The only way I even want ash back is if he is an adult with lei as a kid and if everyone grows up that means they get new VA which is really hard to bring back. So have them in separate universes and only bring ash and friends back thru portals.

    • @ZeroDarkness-
      @ZeroDarkness- 2 місяці тому +1

      It's clearly not the same universe
      We already see similar case before with Pokemon Origin where Red exist which clearly isn't in same universe as Ash

    • @ZeroDarkness-
      @ZeroDarkness- 2 місяці тому

      @@shadowwizard2383 not forgetting nobody ever mentioned about him when liko was school at Kanto which sounded strange for not mentioned anything about World Champion that coming from Kanto
      And Roy never mentioned him either when Roy grow up in Kanto he would heard story about world champion trainer
      And dot uncle not mentioned about Alola champion
      Even Dot as pokemon influencer never talking anything about world champion when Voktackler visited Kanto
      All of that is enough to confirm it's really separate universe

    • @shadowwizard2383
      @shadowwizard2383 2 місяці тому

      @@ZeroDarkness- Also its not just not name dropping or cameos of ash its the same for anyone ash has meet like no mention of professor oak in a kanto school or anywhere when he was world famous. No mention of Leon in Galar or ash vs Leon in the PWC by kabu a gym leader he never meets so they are ether never going to show someone ash met or they are replacing by other game characters or anime only characters. Like pallet town could have anime only characters or daisy oak is the professor and only living oak and leaf takes ash place with a female eevee living with her dad in the house ash lived in.

  • @vincenzorafaelsuarez6644
    @vincenzorafaelsuarez6644 Місяць тому

    Honestly, I think I'm starting to understand the Pokemon Horizons anime from now on.
    Since Ashketchium and Pikachu left the anime, it had me and any modern day fans move on in curiosity and interest to watch Pokemon Horizons. I moved on to watch the Pokemon Horizons anime and there's no change for me rewatching past Pokemon Seasons 1 to 25 again.
    I'm about to compare the difference between Ash-Satoshi Ketchum vs Liko, Roy and Dot from the Rising Volt Tacklers: Against Gym Leaders, Evil Teams, Rivals, etc.
    Pokemon Journeys still outmatch Pokemon Horizons however, it will be a close match and a tie breaker with Pokemon X and Y and Diamond and Pearl anime and Evolutions too, while the rest is I don't know the results.
    To be honest, Iris from the Pokemon Black and White anime was correct. "Ashketchium fans who were crying out and wanted Ash-Satoshi Ketchum back are childish and acting like little kids who want their idol character back."
    Iris might be the worst companion, but in my opinion she is kinda lame and ok but sometimes annoying except for Ashketchium fans who want Ash-Satoshi Ketchum back.

  • @Avellinx
    @Avellinx Місяць тому

    Liko is ash in another timeline just like dia the one with zeraora

  • @dimentdash
    @dimentdash Місяць тому

    I think it's the same universe because honestly what would be the point of setting it in a different universe.

    • @spinotikus1518
      @spinotikus1518 Місяць тому

      To cut ourselves off from the mistakes of the past 😏

  • @justdavid1712
    @justdavid1712 2 місяці тому

    Same universe maybe and if it really is in the same universe maybe just a different region where ash still hasn’t explored yet

    • @ZeroDarkness-
      @ZeroDarkness- 2 місяці тому

      If it was same universe why nothing mentioned about him especially when he was world champion and nobody in liko school on Kanto ever mentioned him even once or Friede talking about Champion from Kanto region while they still in Kanto.... not even Roy who's from Kanto even mentioned it.... or Dot that famous influencer ever mentioned him as discuss world champion would boost her popularity even more
      Doubtful it's same universe

    • @justdavid1712
      @justdavid1712 2 місяці тому

      @@ZeroDarkness- I mean maybe they just want to promote and let the characters develop and grow so we can like the show because of them and not horizons being carried by ash’s legacy

  • @spinotikus1518
    @spinotikus1518 Місяць тому

    Let me remind you that the Pokemon Journeys writers hid the fact that Ash is the champion of the Alola region for 76 episodes. 🙄

    • @NiallKelly
      @NiallKelly  Місяць тому +1

      horizons has different writers, that's why it's good lmao

  • @MasterofChaldea015
    @MasterofChaldea015 2 місяці тому +3

    I hope two different universes

  • @xcmet
    @xcmet 2 місяці тому

    Its in the same universe. Why else would the horizon series avoid showcasing older characters that were introduced in the games, such as previous gym leaders or previous gen professors, such as Professor Oak, the greatest researcher in the pokemon world.
    Nurse joy is the nod that Ash exist within this universe, since she is an anime exclusive character tied to the main anime continuity.

    • @ZeroDarkness-
      @ZeroDarkness- 2 місяці тому

      Not really dude
      Nurse Joy already exist before Ash even existed.... did you ever play pokemon Gen1 games?!
      Nurse joy already exist since Pokemon Red and Green which released on 1995 when Ash didn't exist until 1997 which why They also existed on Pokemon Origin which based on Pokemon Red and Green and so goes most of cast in anime including Oak
      The only not in game was Ash(and that Rocket trio) even if Red another name in game was Satoshi but Ash and Red completely different person
      You do need research first
      They may added Rocket trio in Yellow but it's not even make them appeared in sequel since they never seen again either in Gold Silver Crystal, in Fire Red and Leaf Green or Heart Gold and Soul Silver where no that Rocket Trio ever showed up again after appeared in Yellow which make thing happen in Yellow not canon in sequel

    • @xcmet
      @xcmet 2 місяці тому

      @@ZeroDarkness- Where going to have to agree to disagree. The gen games, especially pokemon red, had never identified or named the game sprite character in the pokemon center as Nurse Joy, which is why she was an anime exclusive character.

    • @ZeroDarkness-
      @ZeroDarkness- 2 місяці тому

      ​@@xcmetwrong... in Gen 2 clearly it's confirmed his name really Red
      If his name not red then why in almost every game he appeared he named red even in pokemon origin they could easily give official new names yet they choose stay with Red

    • @xcmet
      @xcmet 2 місяці тому

      @@ZeroDarkness- I stated "Pokemon Red", in mention of the actual game, not the character red.

  • @jermainespeid4934
    @jermainespeid4934 2 місяці тому

    I think Pokémon horizon is in a different universe because we don’t even see officer Jenny plus they have Liko going to the school 🏫 in Kanto and I thought we going to see the professor oak but we didn’t so yeah I think Pokémon horizon is in a different universe than how they with ash and his friends

  • @babyseal8822
    @babyseal8822 Місяць тому

    Kanto

  • @zack6283
    @zack6283 2 місяці тому

    Good video

  • @robertbreschard3493
    @robertbreschard3493 2 місяці тому

    Where’s ash Ketchum now

  • @jimmyhook4852
    @jimmyhook4852 2 місяці тому +2

    I still hope that Ash comes back and of course once and for all proving it's still the same universe.
    Am I not wrong on that Niall Kelly?

    • @vincenzorafaelsuarez6644
      @vincenzorafaelsuarez6644 Місяць тому

      @@jimmyhook4852 Only as a guest star
      Did he really have a chance to evolve ALL OF HIS POKEMON RATHER THAN KEEPING HIS FAVORITES
      Liko, Roy and Dot are SLOWLY BUT SURELY improving their progress and strengthening, toughing up and training with their Pokemon. They also had their slow time to evolve their starter Pokemon and their supporting Pokemon. They fought through against their rivals and Spinel and the explorers and fought hard against Gym Leaders and Elite Four members.
      Ashketchium trained his Pokemon but not too seriously. He had what he needed battling aggressively against his rivals, Gym Leaders, Elite Four members,Team Rocket Trio, random league trainers, etc. but evil teams.

    • @jimmyhook4852
      @jimmyhook4852 Місяць тому

      @@vincenzorafaelsuarez6644 Hmm...

    • @vincenzorafaelsuarez6644
      @vincenzorafaelsuarez6644 Місяць тому

      ​@@jimmyhook4852Iris from the Pokemon Black and White anime was correct.
      You Ash-Satoshi Ketchum fans are acting like little kids, not just Ashketchium himself.

    • @jimmyhook4852
      @jimmyhook4852 Місяць тому

      @@vincenzorafaelsuarez6644 Seriously, drawing yourself to that conclusion? :/

    • @vincenzorafaelsuarez6644
      @vincenzorafaelsuarez6644 Місяць тому

      @@jimmyhook4852 Seriously dude?
      A true Trainer NEVER IDOLIZES THE IDOL CHARACTER HIMSELF: Ash-Satoshi Ketchum and Pikachu.
      A true Trainer must move on and ACT SERIOUS to the later Pokemon anime.
      If you want him back, WHAT DOES HE HAVE TO DO THEN?????
      "Now look! You may not like this world much, so what? It belongs to People and Pokemon, EVERYONE (including the Rising Volt Tacklers). Your plans of recreating the new world, of all that talk, YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO SAY ANY OF THAT!!!!
      They are people who meet new people all the time
      People who have made their dreams come true
      People who have started on their journeys
      People who healed their old wounds
      Everyone's got their own tomorrows and YOU have no right to take their tomorrows away from them.
      That's why we fight, my Pokemon and I are fighting for their tomorrows." - Ashketchium

  • @ShimmeryKaylaAce
    @ShimmeryKaylaAce 2 місяці тому

    💙🩷💚

  • @gelnart25
    @gelnart25 2 місяці тому

    Get some milk

  • @Taydar
    @Taydar 2 місяці тому +1

    No it hasn't. It's established itself as a poor imitation of the old formula, even reusing several well established plots.

    • @ZeroDarkness-
      @ZeroDarkness- 2 місяці тому +1

      How it imitation when they created by same people
      It's like say you're imitation of your uncle since you had same genetic as your uncle 😂😂😂
      Stupid logic do you have typically monkey see monkey do logic 😂😂😂

    • @NiallKelly
      @NiallKelly  2 місяці тому +3

      What plots?

    • @adityasrijan1149
      @adityasrijan1149 2 місяці тому

      What old formula? No one is going and battling 8 gym leaders to get 8 badges to enter league.

    • @Taydar
      @Taydar 2 місяці тому

      @NiallKelly oh let's see. Learning how to battle, Learning to sound with a pokemon, a nervous girl who doesn't know what she wants to do, a villainous organisation on the hunt for a legendary Pokemon, baking contests etc. There were over 1000 episodes, the anime did everything all ready.

    • @Taydar
      @Taydar 2 місяці тому

      @adityasrijan1149 that was NOT what the pokemon anime was about. If you think ot was, you weren't paying attention.

  • @wazzawarrior5715
    @wazzawarrior5715 2 місяці тому

    Yeah great at setting up the new formula, yet the viewership and recognition of the anime has dropped significantly. I hope Ash returns, because honestly I could care less about the Horizons plot especially since none of the characters are fun to watch. Wanted to add another thing that I have zero faith in the anime writers especially after how they made Ash leave the anime and how they have made Horizons.

    • @MasterofChaldea015
      @MasterofChaldea015 2 місяці тому

      Am I wrong or is horizons rating better than journeys? Honestly that's just your opinion since I heard a lot of people like it

    • @ZeroDarkness-
      @ZeroDarkness- 2 місяці тому +3

      ​@@MasterofChaldea015he just lunatic ash fanboy that holds grudges only because ash not there anymore
      You can say he very immature if act like that due his attachment to ash
      As Yoda said ATTACHMENT WILL LEAD TO JEALOUSY SHADOW OF GREED THAT'S IT
      People that too attached with something just as delusional as Hitler

    • @wazzawarrior5715
      @wazzawarrior5715 2 місяці тому

      @@MasterofChaldea015 I actually did research on this and Horizons rating was higher until the ending when they fumbled the ball on how Ash left the anime. Horizons has a slightly and I mean slightly higher rating because it has less people rating it because its viewership is so much lower.

    • @MasterofChaldea015
      @MasterofChaldea015 2 місяці тому +2

      @@ZeroDarkness- In fact, it's easy to understand how immature this guy is if he behaves like this because of Ash.

    • @stampoulisrafael5262
      @stampoulisrafael5262 Місяць тому

      ​@@wazzawarrior5715you like to talk shit please give a link to show the viewership

  • @marionbenson6094
    @marionbenson6094 2 місяці тому

    Retired from pokemon