@@chromesphereJust shy of 70, actually. The AR-10 was designed in 1955/1956 (sources vary), making it 68 years old. It still didn't see service for several years though. Before you ask, the closest thing before that made by ArmaLite was a bolt action rifle
Canadian here. After the big gun ban, I've been trying to get my hands on one of the Israeli .308 conversions to use up my .308. They're pretty expensive and hard to come by here but maaaaaaaan do I want one. Something about operating these old bolt guns just really gets me. They feel so nice to use.
@@r.9158you know whats crazy? 15 years ago I bought ten of the Israeli '98's for a thousand dollars US. Had i known the price would quadruple id have bought more.
@@mikebrase5161 wow that's insane. Great decision. I feel the same way about Mosins and SKS' up here. I spent $250, $225, and $199 for 3 SKS' like 6 years ago. The most expensive one was a Russian hardwood with a dark stain, the second was a Russian laminate with a lighter stain, and the last one was an uglier (but still matching and in good shape!) Chinese production one. They're all selling for over 600 now. It's mind boggling. Same with the Mosins - bought two pre-war hex receivers for $185 a piece around the same time. Now they're both at least $600. They're beautiful examples with very little pitting in the receivers and the barrels are impeccable. I knew they would go up but I never anticipated them literally multiplying in value so quickly.
Oh, after the Spanish Civil war this only served as ceremonial rifles for guards basically, it was too long, even more so with the bayonet attached, that they decided to use Coruña rifles (basically a shortened version) and pass the k98 to guards, they called it 'mosqueton' and were almost never fired with live ammo, just part of the mandatory military service forces.
That’s really cool! I have a Peruvian-made Model 1935 Mauser that was re-chambered to .30-06 at some point while still in Peru. She’s a real beaut and one of my favorite guns I own.
Im 44.. I've been deer hunting with a 7x57 Mauser since my GPA handed it down to me at 14... It was professionally sporterized back in the 50s I own half dozen deer rifles, and this one BY FAR is the most accurate and comfortable to shoot. It's an all matching made in Berlin 1895 Chileno.
One has to wonder how many ARs are going to be still in circulation century on. A rifle like that, you can put her down on people, but equally with such a small magazine. It’s ideal for hunting deer, and I suspect assuming you filled in the correct paperwork ahead of time you could easily take it up to Canada to shoot things if you wanted something you couldn’t do with your modern AR . They work that accurate, and if you’re just using it to shoot an occasional game animal what more do you need in terms of a rifle?
@@yotyytoy9294 I like a big butt ….. stock .. lol. It’s more unique then the average skinny butt…. Stock. But like the Tshirt I had when I was 16 almost 24years ago , it had a boy with 2 girls and they were rolling up some joints and it said “Johnny likes skinny girls …but he never turns down a fatty”
Those were converted locally in A Coruña, in Northern Spain. Many of them were exported, sporterized and sold to hunters. That is the original "Chopo"-poplar- because of the wood used to build them. That nickname went on to the CETME C and lasted for the whole of C's production run.
United Nations Mauser hahahahaha. Curious that on the stock it says "Entubados a" (tubed to or Barreled to) and not "Recamarado a" (Chambered to). I guess that was the vocabulary of the time. Greetings from Argentine Patagonia.
I noticed that too, and I'm wondering if it's meant to make clear that the barrel was sleeved for the smaller cartridge, rather than replacing the barrel. More like "Barrelled down to 7mm Mauser", rather than "(Re)chambered for 7mm Mauser".
Entubados specifically refer to the type of rechambering, where they bored out the original barrel and then installed new liner in 7mm (both barrel and chamber).
@@ForgottenWeapons- how common was that procedure? It seems like the process you described required a very proficient machinist and much more time than would a relatively straightforward barrel swap.
The Spanish we also used the German Mauser. I have a used bullet of it, used by the Marine Infantry. (My adoptive father was in the Marine Infantry and took this bullet from his gun after a shooting range practice.) My biological father was in infantry (in ground infantry), but he didn't took anything.
...I've got a 1916 Spandau Gew 98 that survived the Weimar Republic - was converted to a Kar98k - survived THAT and survived 'Bubba' post war - no import marks...a GI bringback...
I have a Mauser that looks identical but is a Chilean model 1895 an it's rechambered In 7.62x51 its got german markings an says made in Berlin. It's awesome an my oldest rifle . Bought it for 200 bucks 8 years ago
I like collecting stuff that is made or gone through spain. A lot of people don't seem to care about them so their prices are low. Kinda like how the M48 mausers were super cheap for a while. I got mine for 200 dollars and it's near perfect condition.
In a local museum there's a Thompson that was used by an American soldier in WW2, sold to France after, used in Indochina, captured and used by the Vietcong forces, and then recaptured by American troops in Vietnam.
I've got a war trophy carcano m91 carbine with the ammunition it was issued with during the Second World War, to imagine that this rifle went through wwii then was captured by a U.S. soldier, brought back stateside, and eventually sold at an estate sale It's always crazy to find weaponry which have backstories like that, I can only imagine how much more of a history it has that I will never be able to learn
Interesting that the Spaniards would go retro with a straight stock. But I confess the 7mm is the love of my life for hunting hogs & deer here in Central Florida.
That’s the first thing I noticed-it started out as a Gew. 98, then probably a Kar. 98b then to Spain and was relined in 7x57 and restocked closer to a m93. Interesting that they bothered keeping the H band set up and adding the Richieri device instead of just giving it a m93 type front band/bayonet lug. They basically relined these on an experimental basis, as they soon switched to 7,92x57 then 7,62x51. It would be an awesome gun for the collection.
I have a 1906 Obendorf Gewehr 98 with a 1920 stamp on the stock, as well as Polish markings. It was captured by the Germans during the 1939 campaign. It also has Greek markings on the stock and barrel, meaning it was probably used by the Germans during the Greek occupation.
Had one of these a decade ago. A 1907 DWM manufactured rifle. Also had a replacement 1893 Spanish stock inletted to fit the original Gew98 profile (Assumed the original stock was damaged?). Sold it for $200CAD along with my original unconverted Peruvian m1891 to put $$ towards an original correct Gew98. Wish I had kept it, but can’t keep ‘em all sometimes…
German hunter here.The actions especially from the DWM build rifles are still used from german gunmakers to build fine custom hunting rifles. Those actions are made with absolute high quality standards. Especially the model 1909 Argentino actions are legendary.
I owned an FR-8 Cetme Mauser and it’s my biggest ever gun selling regret. The time before the internet when our best information/misinformation came from the Shotgun News newspaper and it had an article about the FR-8’s being unsafe to shoot modern .762/.308 due to “brittle Spanish steel” this was untrue FUD lore but I didn’t want a gun I was afraid to shoot so I sold it for $300
One interesting sidenote: If the Rifle was made in Amberg in Bavaria it was most probably made by a company that became Deprag, which still exists today. They make Tools powered by pressurized air
i have a Czech Vz.98/22 (accepted into the Czechoslovak Army and has the Turkish sight marks) with that same stock marking and straight grip stock, and had no idea what that meant before. indeed very interesting and adds so much historical value!
My dad has one of those rifles, and he has been using it every year for deer hunting. I bought a couple of cases of ammunition in Louisville, KY, because it is getting harder and harder to find shells for this weapon.
@@mossieeduanmostert9508 It's absolutely possible to reline a rifle barrel. The existing bore is bored out to accept an insert cut to the required caliber and soldered, brazed, or otherwise fixed in place. Judging by the "7,9" just forward of the receiver this piece was indeed relined.
Yessir! Im proud owner of an 1819 New Westinghouse Mosin. A russian designed, American made rifle that was shipped to Russia, captured and then reworked by the Finns to fight back against to Russians.
I work at a shop in ND, I am one of the gunsmiths and Ive done some of the appraisals. I last year appraised a Mosin for a gentleman. I was dismissive at first but my job is my job and I take it seriously. So while I was all happy to slap a 400 dollar value on there and collect the fee, I researched it. And I was shocked. This thing was a Tula Arsenal 3 line mosin made in 1899 under the Tsar It served in WW1, and was captured by the Germans thanks to the Deutsche Reich stamp pressed into the stock. After ww1, it was returned to Russia and entered service in the Red Army, fast forward to the winter war, and it was captured again by the Finnish troops. This is obvious thanks to the finnish capture markings and thaf the old tsar sight gradients were hashed out and on the other side metric gradients were engraved. It had the orignal barrel which means it was not in Finland post revolution and HAD to be a combat capture because finland rebarreled all its mosins prior to the winter war. Now only 100,000 3 line mosins were produced out of the some 20 million that were made. Of those, a good chunk were lost or destroyed in ww1. Of the surviving 3 line mosins, Nearly all of them were rebuilt following the adoption of the 91/30 making them near indistinguishable from a standard 91/30. This rifle, managed to survive the great war, be returned, managed to stay in service and not be re tooled, and then caltured for a second time in a second war, and then likely see service in that war and the continuation war becauseit was imported from Finland based on the import marks. And it remained original, unmodified, and all together. As well, if you search for 3 line mosins captured by the fins, they are insanely rare compared to 91/30s because again, most were converted, I only found 3 for sale in the US at the time and they were all well over a thousand, and they werent as old nor did they have the german capture stamp. Its amazing how something so incredible can hide in plain sight because at a glance, it looks like any other.
The Finns bought a ton of Mosins on the surplus market after WWI, that’s where it came from. You’ll see some with Arabic sight graduations with Finnish markings for that same reason. Although we all like to call any Mosin with Finn markings a “capture” the only ones that can be definitively called captures are the Soviet made ones, or ones with the “41” stamp etc. Some m91’s were captured from the garrison in Finland in 1918 but it would be hard to distinguish them from any other m91 from the surplus buys. As far as Finn m91s go, ones that are basically straight Russian guns with the sight renumbered and the SA mark added are fairly common. The WWII era VKT m91s are maybe the most common, generally speaking. German, Austrian-Hungarian, Ottoman captured guns refurbed by the Finns add a bit to the value. The m24 Lotta rifles, 1920’s m91s, P Series are fairly uncommon. The interesting thing about Finn guns is that they are often a complete menagerie of parts. I remember seeing one Finnish Remington m91 that, upon being taken out of the Finnish made stock, the receiver was a pre-WWI Izhevsk. The Finns just wanted functional guns, they didn’t care about keeping everything together by factory. I’m glad most shops don’t put much effort into looking into milsurp foreign rifles. I got my Finnish P-26 for peanuts because they had it marked as a m91/30.
@Dominic1962 I dont have the notes on it anymore, but it was absolutely a finnish capture mosin because it lacked the markings from the 1920s rearsenal program the finnish did and had the SA stamps on the receiver and remarked rear sights that definitely mark it as a winter war capture rifle. The surplus 91s bought by the fins were all rebarreled and redone with new sights and new barrels, this having its original 1898 barrel made it a garuntee that it was not a surplus buy and was recaptured from the soviets in the winter war
@@theduke7539 Au contraire. The Winter War “capture mark” is the “41”-if any was applied at all. Any gun that was taken into Finnish Army service was marked with the “SA” mark, that doesn’t mean anything other than what it is-a properly mark. All m91’s with the Konovalov rear sight got remarked regardless of where the barrel was made. There was no dedicated 1920’s rearsenaling project-there were all sorts and kinds. They started making barrels in the 1920’s, and relining them, and buying them from Germany and Switzerland however they used guns as-is if the barrel was serviceable and plenty of m91s still were. They also made the unserviceable guns into their own variants. Most imperial guns had been replaced in Soviet service by that time anyway. So unless it has that 41 stamp, it’s pretty much guaranteed to have come by way of the international market.
@Dominic1962 your last statement is completely false. Russians never have, to this day, replaced old small arms, they would update them maybe, but they have since the northern war of 1700, used old guns right up until they couldnt be used anymore. Thats why there were 1750 pattern Tula Muskets being found during the Crimean war. Russia is still using the Mosin today as a reserve rifle, hell they were giving PU mosins out to DNR troops a couple years ago. So no, the imperial rifles had not been replaced. The imperial rifles were being rearsenaled into 91/30s but an unknown number never got that update. And yes, all of the commercial market bought mosins the Finns bought had new barrels. They did not leave original barrels with their guns prior to winter war. They might stamp a new serial number to match the receiver, but they would not have restamped the imperial markings. They weren't relining barrels. You dont reline barrels for military rifles. You only reline a barrel when the exterior presentation is important, like for civilians and collectors who want to preserve the exterior but maintain shootability. From a military aspect, relining barrels is a waste of time. turning and installing new barrels is cheaper and easier and faster than relining old barrels. which is why militaries dont reline barrels. Yes, there was absolutely a rearsenal program in the 1920s to standardize the new independent finnish military, like I said, russians use everything until it cant be used, they dont believe in retiring equipment, hell thats why theyve got T62s rolling around in Ukraine. Theyd deploy T34s if they had any ammo for them and more than 7 for parade use
@@theduke7539 I’ve been at this for 20+ years, but I encourage anyone to not just take it at “my word”. Hit the Gunboards archives where the guys who wrote the books on these things hung out and exchanged info. Also, Matt DiRisio recently put out the most up to date definitive book on Finnish Mosins (and other guns) called “Finnish Mosin Nagant Three Line Rifle to Ukko-Pekka” that can corroborate what I’m saying. The Finns were not capturing massive amounts of Imperial era m91s from the Red Army. They had some Imperial infantry and dragoon rifles but these were largely relegated to storage or sent abroad (i. e. to Spain) but most were Red Army troops sent to Finland were largely armed with m91/30’s (not to mention things like the AVS and SVT). The Finns had about 180,000 m91s from Imperial troops stationed there and bought a further some 150,000 from all over the place between the wars. As to the claim that the Soviets used old things until they wore out is true to a degree but it doesn’t thereby prove that imperial m91’s had to be “captures” from the Winter and Continuation wars. The vast majority would have come from, again, the Imperial garrisons in Finland and interwar purchases.
That gun has had a full life so please someone buy it who won’t sporterize it if I see that thing with an r700 stock and drill holes in the reciever I will cry
Makes me look at 70+ year old rifles differently
The AR platform is 70+ years old
@@chromesphereJust shy of 70, actually. The AR-10 was designed in 1955/1956 (sources vary), making it 68 years old. It still didn't see service for several years though. Before you ask, the closest thing before that made by ArmaLite was a bolt action rifle
This rifle is more then a 100 years old
What a great journey ... ^^
Man, this rifle went through a lot.
That's what makes it so special, I love guns like that too.
Reminds me of Israeli .308 Kar98ks that once served in the Wehrmacht during WW2 but then found a new use after the war in Israel
Everyone was switching to 308 back then I love the 308 M1 Garands
Canadian here.
After the big gun ban, I've been trying to get my hands on one of the Israeli .308 conversions to use up my .308.
They're pretty expensive and hard to come by here but maaaaaaaan do I want one.
Something about operating these old bolt guns just really gets me.
They feel so nice to use.
@@r.9158you know whats crazy? 15 years ago I bought ten of the Israeli '98's for a thousand dollars US. Had i known the price would quadruple id have bought more.
@@mikebrase5161 wow that's insane.
Great decision.
I feel the same way about Mosins and SKS' up here.
I spent $250, $225, and $199 for 3 SKS' like 6 years ago.
The most expensive one was a Russian hardwood with a dark stain, the second was a Russian laminate with a lighter stain, and the last one was an uglier (but still matching and in good shape!) Chinese production one.
They're all selling for over 600 now.
It's mind boggling.
Same with the Mosins - bought two pre-war hex receivers for $185 a piece around the same time. Now they're both at least $600.
They're beautiful examples with very little pitting in the receivers and the barrels are impeccable.
I knew they would go up but I never anticipated them literally multiplying in value so quickly.
Oh, after the Spanish Civil war this only served as ceremonial rifles for guards basically, it was too long, even more so with the bayonet attached, that they decided to use Coruña rifles (basically a shortened version) and pass the k98 to guards, they called it 'mosqueton' and were almost never fired with live ammo, just part of the mandatory military service forces.
At this point it's a not just a weapon, it's a historical artifact fit for a museum
That’s really cool! I have a Peruvian-made Model 1935 Mauser that was re-chambered to .30-06 at some point while still in Peru. She’s a real beaut and one of my favorite guns I own.
I have a Brazilian Mauser re-chambered in .30-06, I assume it would take M1 Garand .30-06 and not modern?
Im 44.. I've been deer hunting with a 7x57 Mauser since my GPA handed it down to me at 14... It was professionally sporterized back in the 50s
I own half dozen deer rifles, and this one BY FAR is the most accurate and comfortable to shoot. It's an all matching made in Berlin 1895 Chileno.
One has to wonder how many ARs are going to be still in circulation century on.
A rifle like that, you can put her down on people, but equally with such a small magazine. It’s ideal for hunting deer, and I suspect assuming you filled in the correct paperwork ahead of time you could easily take it up to Canada to shoot things if you wanted something you couldn’t do with your modern AR .
They work that accurate, and if you’re just using it to shoot an occasional game animal what more do you need in terms of a rifle?
i have a chileno as well. its my favorite deer rifle.
I will never get tired of hearing how a particular rifle got from the factory many decades ago to whomever owns it today.
beautiful rifle.
I have a Spanish Air Force Mauser but she’s not as beautiful as that bad boy. It’s unique and that makes it more attractive to me anyways
Uniqueness quite often equates to attraction for me too.
@@yotyytoy9294 I like a big butt ….. stock .. lol. It’s more unique then the average skinny butt…. Stock. But like the Tshirt I had when I was 16 almost 24years ago , it had a boy with 2 girls and they were rolling up some joints and it said “Johnny likes skinny girls …but he never turns down a fatty”
This man is the encyclopedia of firearms on video. An incredible public resource.
Our grandpa Al bought a case of 12 of these in 1960s for $200. Sold them to his buddies for $30-35 a piece!
Good to see all these Spanish Civil War veterans in your videos! I've spent soooo much time studying the conflict and the places where these were used
I completely ADORE my Spanish Mauser. One of the best rifles I have ever owned!
Those were converted locally in A Coruña, in Northern Spain. Many of them were exported, sporterized and sold to hunters. That is the original "Chopo"-poplar- because of the wood used to build them. That nickname went on to the CETME C and lasted for the whole of C's production run.
i have one of these. it was a gift from an old man because i was patient and respectful.
A bit strange but I'm, not complaining
Hell, if this rifle could talk. All the history it's seen. Really enjoy seeing how different developments can be seen on this beautiful rifle.
If it could talk, u know it'd only speak in swears that haven't been invented yet lol
Thanks! My favorite videos of yours are the ones where the guns have an interesting history.
Evry war rifle has a story to tell,
The hands that have changed etc.
Love these videos
United Nations Mauser hahahahaha. Curious that on the stock it says "Entubados a" (tubed to or Barreled to) and not "Recamarado a" (Chambered to). I guess that was the vocabulary of the time. Greetings from Argentine Patagonia.
I noticed that too, and I'm wondering if it's meant to make clear that the barrel was sleeved for the smaller cartridge, rather than replacing the barrel.
More like "Barrelled down to 7mm Mauser", rather than "(Re)chambered for 7mm Mauser".
Entubados specifically refer to the type of rechambering, where they bored out the original barrel and then installed new liner in 7mm (both barrel and chamber).
Thanks, I didn't know that.@@ForgottenWeapons
@@ForgottenWeapons- how common was that procedure? It seems like the process you described required a very proficient machinist and much more time than would a relatively straightforward barrel swap.
Not super common, but not unheard of. The Italians did it, as did the Spanish and the Finns.
I had one or two of these in the 70's I wish I'd kept one. Both were in good condition.
The Spanish we also used the German Mauser.
I have a used bullet of it, used by the Marine Infantry.
(My adoptive father was in the Marine Infantry and took this bullet from his gun after a shooting range practice.)
My biological father was in infantry (in ground infantry), but he didn't took anything.
Que joya de arma. Ojalá volviera a España y cayera en mis manos 😅
Whoa that's cool! Spanish Mausers are rich in history!
Cool mauser Ian, making mauser collecting look more appealing as the years go on.
Mauser collecting is very cool and appealing… until you see the price tag
Love your vids gun jesus!
I do love the idea of some random guy with the "right" phenotype taking the throne and actually being a great king
Had an Argentine K98 in 7mm. Bad ass cartridge!
Very nice mauser 😮 incredible one
The bolo bayonet was one of the nicest and most useful bayonet designs out there
Outstanding story and great example Ian!!
I’ve been waiting for this I love my Mauser shoots amazing
...I've got a 1916 Spandau Gew 98 that survived the Weimar Republic - was converted to a Kar98k - survived THAT and survived 'Bubba' post war - no import marks...a GI bringback...
Amazing! Amberg, that rifle was made less than 50 kilometers away from me!
Makes you wish you could touch a gun and get a "Lord of War" opening scene style playthrough of its life.
Stuff like this is why I love guns.
If these things could talk, this one would have one hell of a story
Love your videos been a huge fan for years
I have a Mauser that looks identical but is a Chilean model 1895 an it's rechambered In 7.62x51 its got german markings an says made in Berlin. It's awesome an my oldest rifle . Bought it for 200 bucks 8 years ago
Wow! That's awesome. Rifle of Theseus
Pride of great grandparents in their young hood 😊😊😊😊
Amazing rifle looking to get one myself
Imagine how long swords were passed from generation to generation.
I like collecting stuff that is made or gone through spain. A lot of people don't seem to care about them so their prices are low. Kinda like how the M48 mausers were super cheap for a while. I got mine for 200 dollars and it's near perfect condition.
Absolutely nothing boring about it!!!!
In a local museum there's a Thompson that was used by an American soldier in WW2, sold to France after, used in Indochina, captured and used by the Vietcong forces, and then recaptured by American troops in Vietnam.
I've got a war trophy carcano m91 carbine with the ammunition it was issued with during the Second World War, to imagine that this rifle went through wwii then was captured by a U.S. soldier, brought back stateside, and eventually sold at an estate sale
It's always crazy to find weaponry which have backstories like that, I can only imagine how much more of a history it has that I will never be able to learn
Interesting that the Spaniards would go retro with a straight stock. But I confess the 7mm is the love of my life for hunting hogs & deer here in Central Florida.
That’s the first thing I noticed-it started out as a Gew. 98, then probably a Kar. 98b then to Spain and was relined in 7x57 and restocked closer to a m93. Interesting that they bothered keeping the H band set up and adding the Richieri device instead of just giving it a m93 type front band/bayonet lug.
They basically relined these on an experimental basis, as they soon switched to 7,92x57 then 7,62x51. It would be an awesome gun for the collection.
I never knew a 7mm k98 existed! My favorite old caliber, now let the hunt begin!
Beautiful piece with a rich back story…
What more do you want?
Arriba España 🤚🏻🇪🇦 gloria a la Legión Condor.
Franco is dead, his evil regime with him.
I love K98's. Have 2 Turkish ones myself.
basically every old rifle went to spain at one point
Wow, what a life this rifles had.
Best rifle ever made.....wish I had a mint example.
Good example of a gun that went thru many countries is the BM59E.
its a Garand with the 20rd box mag
I have a 1906 Obendorf Gewehr 98 with a 1920 stamp on the stock, as well as Polish markings. It was captured by the Germans during the 1939 campaign. It also has Greek markings on the stock and barrel, meaning it was probably used by the Germans during the Greek occupation.
This is what you call a storied rifle.
Had one of these a decade ago. A 1907 DWM manufactured rifle. Also had a replacement 1893 Spanish stock inletted to fit the original Gew98 profile (Assumed the original stock was damaged?). Sold it for $200CAD along with my original unconverted Peruvian m1891 to put $$ towards an original correct Gew98. Wish I had kept it, but can’t keep ‘em all sometimes…
German hunter here.The actions especially from the DWM build rifles are still used from german gunmakers to build fine custom hunting rifles. Those actions are made with absolute high quality standards. Especially the model 1909 Argentino actions are legendary.
I owned an FR-8 Cetme Mauser and it’s my biggest ever gun selling regret. The time before the internet when our best information/misinformation came from the Shotgun News newspaper and it had an article about the FR-8’s being unsafe to shoot modern .762/.308 due to “brittle Spanish steel” this was untrue FUD lore but I didn’t want a gun I was afraid to shoot so I sold it for $300
That's quite a lot of history for one gun.
That's a really cool find
I remember a Luger that went through a similar odyssey. The history is really super interesting!!!
Beautiful rifle. If these rifles could talk..
Man, the gun equivalent of "I've Been Everywhere...."
condor were a bit more involved than mere "advisors" - it was warplanes engaged in action
The euphemism escaped you…
A Mauser 98 in 7mm as originally intended, it must be the best deer rifle.
Jeez. That's quite the journey.
You mention "the Spanish Bolo bayonet." Perhaps you could add an inset photo of that war tool, or a few frames of one, maybe mounted to the rifle.
Beautiful looking and would like to see more of them 👍👍👍👍👍💪💪💪👏👏👏 in 7 buy 57👍👍👍
One interesting sidenote: If the Rifle was made in Amberg in Bavaria it was most probably made by a company that became Deprag, which still exists today. They make Tools powered by pressurized air
Did the State Arsenal of Amberg get turned into a private company?
A mauser is never boring
Hello Ian. That bayonet adapter is an Argentinian design and bears the name of the Army Chief of Staff Pablo Ricchieri who ordered Mauser rifles.
I love old guns
We got Mr. Worldwide over here
FASCINATING !
“Bro was a group project” moment
i have a Czech Vz.98/22 (accepted into the Czechoslovak Army and has the Turkish sight marks) with that same stock marking and straight grip stock, and had no idea what that meant before. indeed very interesting and adds so much historical value!
My dad has one of those rifles, and he has been using it every year for deer hunting. I bought a couple of cases of ammunition in Louisville, KY, because it is getting harder and harder to find shells for this weapon.
Ladies and gentlemen…. The Forrest Gump of rifles.
I have the same one, also one of the Israeli .308 kar98k, and a Spanish one that got a new barrel and is chamber in 308
Wow. Reminds me of that luger you did a video on
Reminds me of my Argentinan Kar/gehwehr. Rechaimbered in .308 ao much fun and very accurate
A Gewehr 98 in 7mm should also be a very neat and comfortable shooter.
Amberg, my home town! Awesome to see!
I’d like to know more how they realigned the barrel?
You cant, he ment replace..
@@mossieeduanmostert9508 It's absolutely possible to reline a rifle barrel. The existing bore is bored out to accept an insert cut to the required caliber and soldered, brazed, or otherwise fixed in place. Judging by the "7,9" just forward of the receiver this piece was indeed relined.
This rifle has seen things
Качественный и надёжный инструмент.
Daaang that gun has seen things
Yessir! Im proud owner of an 1819 New Westinghouse Mosin. A russian designed, American made rifle that was shipped to Russia, captured and then reworked by the Finns to fight back against to Russians.
I work at a shop in ND, I am one of the gunsmiths and Ive done some of the appraisals. I last year appraised a Mosin for a gentleman. I was dismissive at first but my job is my job and I take it seriously. So while I was all happy to slap a 400 dollar value on there and collect the fee, I researched it. And I was shocked.
This thing was a Tula Arsenal 3 line mosin made in 1899 under the Tsar It served in WW1, and was captured by the Germans thanks to the Deutsche Reich stamp pressed into the stock. After ww1, it was returned to Russia and entered service in the Red Army, fast forward to the winter war, and it was captured again by the Finnish troops. This is obvious thanks to the finnish capture markings and thaf the old tsar sight gradients were hashed out and on the other side metric gradients were engraved. It had the orignal barrel which means it was not in Finland post revolution and HAD to be a combat capture because finland rebarreled all its mosins prior to the winter war.
Now only 100,000 3 line mosins were produced out of the some 20 million that were made. Of those, a good chunk were lost or destroyed in ww1. Of the surviving 3 line mosins, Nearly all of them were rebuilt following the adoption of the 91/30 making them near indistinguishable from a standard 91/30. This rifle, managed to survive the great war, be returned, managed to stay in service and not be re tooled, and then caltured for a second time in a second war, and then likely see service in that war and the continuation war becauseit was imported from Finland based on the import marks. And it remained original, unmodified, and all together. As well, if you search for 3 line mosins captured by the fins, they are insanely rare compared to 91/30s because again, most were converted, I only found 3 for sale in the US at the time and they were all well over a thousand, and they werent as old nor did they have the german capture stamp.
Its amazing how something so incredible can hide in plain sight because at a glance, it looks like any other.
The Finns bought a ton of Mosins on the surplus market after WWI, that’s where it came from. You’ll see some with Arabic sight graduations with Finnish markings for that same reason. Although we all like to call any Mosin with Finn markings a “capture” the only ones that can be definitively called captures are the Soviet made ones, or ones with the “41” stamp etc. Some m91’s were captured from the garrison in Finland in 1918 but it would be hard to distinguish them from any other m91 from the surplus buys. As far as Finn m91s go, ones that are basically straight Russian guns with the sight renumbered and the SA mark added are fairly common. The WWII era VKT m91s are maybe the most common, generally speaking. German, Austrian-Hungarian, Ottoman captured guns refurbed by the Finns add a bit to the value. The m24 Lotta rifles, 1920’s m91s, P Series are fairly uncommon. The interesting thing about Finn guns is that they are often a complete menagerie of parts. I remember seeing one Finnish Remington m91 that, upon being taken out of the Finnish made stock, the receiver was a pre-WWI Izhevsk. The Finns just wanted functional guns, they didn’t care about keeping everything together by factory.
I’m glad most shops don’t put much effort into looking into milsurp foreign rifles. I got my Finnish P-26 for peanuts because they had it marked as a m91/30.
@Dominic1962 I dont have the notes on it anymore, but it was absolutely a finnish capture mosin because it lacked the markings from the 1920s rearsenal program the finnish did and had the SA stamps on the receiver and remarked rear sights that definitely mark it as a winter war capture rifle. The surplus 91s bought by the fins were all rebarreled and redone with new sights and new barrels, this having its original 1898 barrel made it a garuntee that it was not a surplus buy and was recaptured from the soviets in the winter war
@@theduke7539 Au contraire. The Winter War “capture mark” is the “41”-if any was applied at all. Any gun that was taken into Finnish Army service was marked with the “SA” mark, that doesn’t mean anything other than what it is-a properly mark. All m91’s with the Konovalov rear sight got remarked regardless of where the barrel was made.
There was no dedicated 1920’s rearsenaling project-there were all sorts and kinds. They started making barrels in the 1920’s, and relining them, and buying them from Germany and Switzerland however they used guns as-is if the barrel was serviceable and plenty of m91s still were. They also made the unserviceable guns into their own variants. Most imperial guns had been replaced in Soviet service by that time anyway. So unless it has that 41 stamp, it’s pretty much guaranteed to have come by way of the international market.
@Dominic1962 your last statement is completely false. Russians never have, to this day, replaced old small arms, they would update them maybe, but they have since the northern war of 1700, used old guns right up until they couldnt be used anymore. Thats why there were 1750 pattern Tula Muskets being found during the Crimean war. Russia is still using the Mosin today as a reserve rifle, hell they were giving PU mosins out to DNR troops a couple years ago. So no, the imperial rifles had not been replaced. The imperial rifles were being rearsenaled into 91/30s but an unknown number never got that update. And yes, all of the commercial market bought mosins the Finns bought had new barrels. They did not leave original barrels with their guns prior to winter war. They might stamp a new serial number to match the receiver, but they would not have restamped the imperial markings. They weren't relining barrels. You dont reline barrels for military rifles. You only reline a barrel when the exterior presentation is important, like for civilians and collectors who want to preserve the exterior but maintain shootability. From a military aspect, relining barrels is a waste of time. turning and installing new barrels is cheaper and easier and faster than relining old barrels. which is why militaries dont reline barrels.
Yes, there was absolutely a rearsenal program in the 1920s to standardize the new independent finnish military, like I said, russians use everything until it cant be used, they dont believe in retiring equipment, hell thats why theyve got T62s rolling around in Ukraine. Theyd deploy T34s if they had any ammo for them and more than 7 for parade use
@@theduke7539 I’ve been at this for 20+ years, but I encourage anyone to not just take it at “my word”. Hit the Gunboards archives where the guys who wrote the books on these things hung out and exchanged info. Also, Matt DiRisio recently put out the most up to date definitive book on Finnish Mosins (and other guns) called “Finnish Mosin Nagant Three Line Rifle to Ukko-Pekka” that can corroborate what I’m saying. The Finns were not capturing massive amounts of Imperial era m91s from the Red Army. They had some Imperial infantry and dragoon rifles but these were largely relegated to storage or sent abroad (i. e. to Spain) but most were Red Army troops sent to Finland were largely armed with m91/30’s (not to mention things like the AVS and SVT). The Finns had about 180,000 m91s from Imperial troops stationed there and bought a further some 150,000 from all over the place between the wars.
As to the claim that the Soviets used old things until they wore out is true to a degree but it doesn’t thereby prove that imperial m91’s had to be “captures” from the Winter and Continuation wars. The vast majority would have come from, again, the Imperial garrisons in Finland and interwar purchases.
This is amazing more of this
Beautiful rifle
That gun has had a full life so please someone buy it who won’t sporterize it if I see that thing with an r700 stock and drill holes in the reciever I will cry
I have an ex Columbian '98 Carbine in 30/06. It's worn out, but I keep it on the wall in my workshop.
It's a shame that rifles cant talk 😅. It could tell some stories...
i love that gun that is my dream gun
A cousin told me we spanish still use mosquetones de a coruña aka spanish mauser 98 for training soldiers
Me knowing it's pronounced "Geh-Vare"
My brain: Gyoo-werh
Great story.
I have a Mauser in 3006
It’s got matching serial numbers with the bolt and action