Can a Magic Player Guess if a Hearthstone Card is FAKE?
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Rarren: "I spent a lot of time making sure these cards seemed really realistic."
First card: Pirate guy with no pirate tribe.
true, but to be absolutely fair, a number of his (actual HS-playing) guests forgot to check the tribe in the Do You Know Hearthstone episodes
Also two of the fake cards had typos which were strong reasons for him saying they’re fake. Idk why he bothered saying he spent time because a brief read of the cards would’ve shown 3 had glaring issues
@@shanedancer3895rarun did say he chose the typo one to see his reaction tho
Give this guy a pass, he makes almost daily content for a very long time. He doesn't have infinite hours in a day
Yeah I saw that right away lmao
I can’t believe they would try and shame Doug Dimmadome, owner of the Dimsdale Dimmadome, for his excellent hat. That’s NOT RIGHT 😂
I love Doug. Such a chad.
Not right?
@@jynxed66six54 That's right!
Doug Dimmadome? Owner of the dimmsdale diammdome where they are showing crash nebula?
Well... Doug Dimmadome *was* the owner of the Dimmsdale Dimmadome, until he lost it to his ex-wife Dawn Dimmadome in the Dimmadivorce
Wizards of the Trope was my favourite Hearthstone expansion
💀
I realize written out he meant "troupe" lmao
Gaslight Gatekeeper was a great follow up from Wizards of the Trope.
The most well-balanced expansion by far
37:27
Expectation: Lmao, Rarran had to come up with an expansion name on the spot, that's why he reacted like that.
Reality: Rarran realized that he just leaked the name of the next expansion and has made Blizzard mad.
"'When you draw this' is not a line in any Magic card"
Miracle keyword enjoyers in shambles.
Technically it's not triggered on being drawn, just being played the turn you drew it, irrc
No it's when it's drawn but only if it's your first card drawn this turn.
@@Arenuphis You have to reveal and cast the card the moment you topdeck it to cast it as a Miracle. Hence why its called "Miracle", even though you can alter the top of your deck and just make Miracles happen with cards like Brainstorm.
I mean the Snake is way more powerful than most miracle cards, and doesn't require being the first card you drew for turn. Giving a random creature a Deathtouch counter is pretty cool especially without a cost.
@@WhipLash42oa good brainstorm can work miracles indeed
When Rarran said Wizards of the Trope I died, I now need this expansion to be real
I actually thought that was a dead giveaway and was surprised when the magic player didn't catch on lol
Castle Nathria is in the shadow lands, shadow lands is the post-life of WoW, Castle Nathria is like the purgatory, and that's why we dont have a lot of undead in the set, they are just dead dead
Undead also just weren't a tribe until March of the Lich King added them to be fair
@@aereon_gaming They added the undead tribe for old minions too tho
I despise the entire lore of the Shadowlands.
Supposedly the Lich King based his entire undead army on the armies of Maldraxxus yet it’s the afterlife so why the fuck did they have ABOMINATIONS CREATED BY SEWING TOGETHER MULTIPLE CORPSES AND THEN REANIMATING THE MASS OF FLESH IN THE FUCKING AFTERLIFE?! HUH?!
I guess they’ll just make up some dumb excuse like, “oh, this is the afterlife for the entire cosmos so there’s just a planet out there with bloated three-armed bald guys who have their intestines exposed. Yeah they just look like that.”
@@Joaogab29 So basically they added those to have something who could synergize with The Lich king? Sounds like a smart move if you ask me.
IM UNDEAD NOT DEAD DEAD
I think the flavor with Serenity destroying the minions is the same as Sword to Plowshares exiling creatures. It's not that they are getting so chill they die. It's that they get so chill that they just go home and stop fighting.
but swords specifically doesn't kill the creature, just exiles it which represents a wide variety of things in magic. Serenity actually destroys them.
@@TheStornewell you don't have exile in hearthstone so that's the best you will get
@@vietquang8739 We also have vanish tho
There is exile on some hearthstone cards. It's just a very rare effect. @@vietquang8739
Yeah that sounds reasonable tbh, given that Hearthstone doesn't have anything like exile. 'Peaceful removal' is one of my favourite types of flavour in card games, I love the thought of making a giant world-threatening eldritch god into a chill farmer with a quiet life in the country.
between 'there are no undead beast' and 'there are no dual class cards' i just really wanted him to see Hollow Hound (a dual-class undead beast)
You right, it’s hard to remember everything
@@Rarran He who Creates the Content Creates Reality, EMBRACE THE POWER
@@Rarran well you can always invite him again and show hollow hound next time ;)
I would see serenity as the ones with 0 attack have found serenity and choose to leave the battlefield and do no more harm
That a good one! I was thing they ascent to Nirvana or something like that.
since deathrattles are usually themed as the minion dying, i think this interpretation is only thematically consistent if it has a remove from game effect instead of a destruction effect. which would be really cool i think, because we don't see that mechanic often and it'd be interesting to see priests try to set it up to work in their favor, but maybe it'd be a little overpowered for a 4-mana priest soft board clear, idk.
@4:10 Worgens aren't Beasts because they're Humanoid like the other significant sentient races. Worgen are specifically just magically cursed Humans, after all. Beast is largely reserved for the less sentient kind of beasts which Hunters could tame.
On another funny lore note, Worgen are also traditionally immune to the Curse of Undeath resulting in major conflict between the groups, so there also won't normally be an Undead Worgen either. But both Hearthstone and WoW play a bit loose with that lore I'm sure, like Worgen Death Knights being allowed as characters.
So (nerd voice) ackshually BOTH tribal tags on Dire Worgen were wrong!
The first Kobold was also missing a Pirate tag. ;p
thank you for commenting my immediate thoughts while watching this video
But can you skin a dire worgen?
The only undead worgen I can think of is the worgen abomination from the witchwood but that one is only part worgen
Yeah, the Kobold was the first thing I noticed… I’m like, surely this would be a Pirate, so this just screams “lazy” fan 😅
37:38 omg the LA Noire "Wrong Doubt" sound, on point
i love the many guests you have on this show. they all offer a lot, in addition to their respective games perspective
when the guy said "priest looks like it would be my jam just stopping opponents from doing anything" i realized: HEY WAIT, PRIEST IS JUST BLUE.
mind control effects are strictly Blue in MTG and that's core to priest yes? Nice
How the hell did Rarran just cook up an expansion name on the spot? 😀
Because Wizards of the Coast are the developers behind MtG, the game CGB plays.
It's like if he had to come up with a Hearthstone expansion on the spot, and came up with "Blizzards"
I just love how blue deducts his answers with the story behind a card .
very enjoyable to watch
“Are Worgen only in World of Warcraft”
I believe the answer to that is yes. There was a like… 4 or 5 year time gap between Warcraft 3 and WoW coming out. In that time, Chris Metzen (the main Writer for the story) added a lot of things to the lore that were never before seen. They released some RPG stuff and some additional lore books after WC3 but before WoW that kinda set up some of the major stories.
The Titans? Invented after WC3 but before WoW. The dragons each having their own unique colors and flights? Invented between the games. Worgen? Between the games I’m pretty sure. They were invented as an excuse to keep Gilneas (a major kingdom from Warcraft II) out of the game. It was like, “Why can’t we go to Gilneas? It’s RIGHT here!”
“Oh, they built up a wall because of some rumored curse or something.”
I think it's a really cool strategy to ask "what story is being told" bc it's true, hearthstone cards' flavors of being able to tie the art, the name, to the effect, their place in lore, are all amazing that custom card creators rarely hit perfectly [but sometimes they are amazing at it].
Pirate Traderr, who wears a pirate hat, isn't a pirate?
My thought too, Rarran and Covert didn't mention the most plain problem with this card.
He trades pirates but himself isn't one. It was a really unfortunate title when he arrived in Stormwind and got arrested for piracy.
@@slimek20 I mean, you have Tony as a pirate due to selling pirated stuff so...
@@N12015Tony Two-Tusk is a pirate in WoW.
@@N12015 he's not a pirate, he's a slaver
He sells pirates, not pirated goods.
He's actually much more of a bad guy than you'd think based on that face.
can I have everyone give props to the editor for the subtle LA Noire reference at 37:38?
Really fun to see his logic when susing out the fake cards, well done!
Castle Nathria is a zone in Shadowlands, basically Purgatory. Kael'thas died in Burning Crusade, the very first expansion, and here we see him paying for his sins. That's why he's called "sin"-strider. Technically, is just his soul, so I guess that's the excuse Blizzard would tell you to not add the undead tag.
Magic doesn't have "When you draw this" but it does have Miracle which says "If this is the first card you drew this turn, you can cast this card for its miracle cost" which is a hugely reduced cost.
The Four-tune Fortuner card would probably see play in wild in some aggro decks. It draws 4 mana WORTH of cards, so if you have 0 mana cards, it can draw them out for free randomly, and if your opponent's deck is heavier, they'll draw 1-2 cards and you'll draw 2-4 cards.
I like the entire flavor thought proccess, it's really cool to think about the cards being applied in an in-battle logic. Sick.
I love CovertGoBlue, your two work so well together
This type of content is my favourite, keep it up Rarran, we love you ❤
I have never played hearth stone but I watch all of the mtg crossovers. Love cgb!
27:23
Photographer Fizzle: _in shambles_
I even thought that cactus rager was fake lmao
the ragers are such a meme lmao
"I have faith in the integrity of spellcheckers in Blizzard". Meanwhile, a card named Florist had a typo for almost 3 weeks: "at then end of your turn". And they couldn't be bothered to fix it.
having custom expantion logo makes it too easy to spot fakes for someone who played back in the past
holy shit called it
I've played since alpha and didn't even know there are expansion logos
Actually magic does in fact have a mechanic that triggers when you draw the card that has it, it is called Miracle. Basically if the first card you draw on a turn is a card with Miracle, you can reveal that card, and may immediately cast it for its Miracle cost rather than its actual mana cost. This ignores the cards usual timing, so you can cast creatures and sorceries at instant speed, even on opponent's turns if I remember correct.
though it's common when non-hs players are in this content they often say stuff like "surely you wouldn't give me X fakes in a row" this is the first time i've seen a contestant purely try to interact with everything BUT the card and just play the mindgame lol
also him describing ragers as "filler cards" is so spot on lmao
Yeah, it's interesting to listen to his reasoning and seeing him come to the correct conclusion based on flawless logic.
Obviously very smart guy
You two have great chemistry, more of these videos please
Pretty sure Mortal Kombat would never be on a real card since it's a trademark. Great vid though!
I could've sworn that Magic had "When you draw this card, reveal it, do an effect" cards
They had miracle which is of you drew it as your first card that turn you could cast it for less mana.
Can't believe rarran would just stand by while blue was dissing a rager smh
That Wizards of the Trope response was smooth as SILK! 😄
Honestly Four-tune Fortuner seems like a great rogue or aggro card.
Your opponent maybe draws 1, and you draw 2 coins, 2 shadowstep, and 4 1 cost minions.
"When you draw this" is absolutely a thing in Magic, it's just followed with "you may reveal it" or similar. Anything with Miracle, for example.
Dormant is pretty close to either MTG's "Phased Out" or "Suspend"
Lovin all the CGB collabs. He was my go to content creator when i played magic. Havent played it in ages, so i'm really glad to see him back on my screen on your channel
A) I really like these videos since I can sort of put them on in the background and it's like a funny podcast type of video. B) I'm pretty surprised by how good some of these custom cards are, in terms of art, that is. It's worth noting that a LOT of custom Hearthstone cards have actually become real cards in the past few years, with minor changes. C) The Fires of Zin-Azshari is absolutely useless in Constructed mode, even for the memes but was one of the best cards in Arena mode. It was an absolute first pick that could carry the game for you. Even if you used it early on!
30:53 “someone obsessed with the number 4 sounds whimsical !”
Jhin, from league of legends: *heavy breathing
Doug Dimmadone, owner of the Dimmsdale Dimmadone?
23:12 i was thinking aabout this name when i played the card XDD so funny
all tokens that can be generated have a mana cost associated with them, just in case a player finds a way to interact with it or future content may allow for that to happen.
so that in case any of these cases happen, you do not end up stuck with a dead hand slot.
Also Four-tune Fortuner would work really well in Mill-Rogue/-Druid. Because those decks looks for very specific low mana cards to throw out there while trying to draw their higher cost cards really late into the game. And as someone that used to play Mill in all it's beautiful variations I can tell you, there is not much more painful than drawing your only two 6 costs and your only 9 cost card very early and having 3 dead cards that you pulled through Oracle.
Also, adding to that, this means that your opponent might potentially draw 4 1-Mana cards, increasing your chances of milling them, or a tin of 0 Mana cost cards, burning them up pretty quickly.
At the same time also means, when playing this later into the game there are good chances vs specific decks, that mean you get a 4-Mana 4-4 down onto the board and get to draw, while your opponent might not draw at all.
Also really good card for Arena too.
Desert viper also sounds weird, casuse its usually "when drawn"
Also fel is chaos, it contains all types of magic within it, and is just a fucking mess, counter to arcane which is pure magic.
Fel was first made when the realm of the light and void collided, making the twisting nether, and the great beyond, great beyond being space, twisting nether pretty much a corrupted space that takes over normal space.
And fel is birthed from the twisting nether, and transforms creatures into demons.
Also Rarran you shoulda explained after what the "rager" meta is, to explain why the card even exists.
Elyne, the Illusionist into 9 Ice Blocks is Peak Hearthstone
You know someone definitely doesn't know anything about Hearthstone when they see a rager of any expansion with 5/1 stats and ponder if it's fake or not. That card's a meme since day one.
28:05 Interestingly, cameras have been around in Warcraft lore for a while now. Fluffed as sort of 1800s-style with magical (or steampunk) boosts.
Magic has "when you draw this" in miracle casting costs effectivly
Doug Dimmadome, Owner of the Dimmsdale Dimmadome?
First card doesn't even have the Pirate tag. That's the dead giveaway.
The mtg pro immediately forgetting miracle exists when desert viper is shown
I care about Doug Dimmadome, owner of the Dimmsdale Dimmadome
Castle Nathria is the home of the namesake legendary of the expansion, Prince Renethal, and his father, Lord Denathrius. Striking a deal with the other prime legendary of the expansion, The Jailer, Lord Denathrius agreed to send all of the anima, the essence of all life in Azeroth, to the Maw in exchange for great and terrible power. This is also a raid in retail WoW where you get to kill Denathrius, and in this raid you get to meet Kael'Thas Sunstrider, marking his 3rd appearance as a boss in WoW PvE history. More lore in response.
The reason KTS is in Castle Nathria is because the Venthyr, the native residents of the realm of Venthyr and dreadlords, are the repenters of the Shadowlands. If you are filled with the sin of Pride and believe you superior to your fellow man, this is where you go to repent through torture and humbling, as you are now put into being the underling of the Venthyr.
KTS, the Prince of Quel'thalas, and an arch mage of the great city of Dalaran, is filled with pride for his people and his own abilities, and not for no reason as he and his people are a strong, beautiful, and powerful people and KTS was the most powerful among them. He needed special care and humbling, so was sent straight to be supervised by the big man himself, Lord Denathrius, to make sure KTS learns humility. But as KTS was a powerful and strong soul, he had a great deal of anima in him, making it so he became an... anima cow to the Lord, and his sentence was to be harvested until drained, essentially sentenced to a permanent death. In the raid, you fight his tormentors, just a ragtag of Venthyrs with above average strength, and at certain intervals the shadow of KTS. I hope this was comprehensive enough!
Also exactly correct, KTSinstrider would not be considered to be Undead ad he is NOT reanimated, he is simply dead, essence, a spirit.
No way my man sent "Wizards of the Trope" and didn't burst out laughing like I did
As a Hearthstone player who hasn't played in a few years, I have no idea if the card is real or not.
There technically IS a card in Magic that triggers when you draw it, although it doesn't have that exact line "When you draw this", and it's also from a Silver Border Set: "Letter Bomb", from Unhinged. It shuffles into an opponent's deck, and when they draw it, it deals 19-and-a-half damage to them.
The Four-tune Fortuner could be good in an extreme agro deck where you run tons of 1-drops and need to refuel
I cannot believe that "BLIZZARD" released a card called Gaslight Gatekeeper, after their history.
Not only worgens aren’t beasts but also worgens can’t be raised as forsakens (undead) based on my adventures in silverpine forests under lady sylvanas windrunner
How you are able to say "Doug Dimmadome" without immediately following with owner of the Dimsdale Dimmadome is beyond me.
If the four-tune fortuner had a picture of Jhin it would have been perfection.
The closest magic has to "when you draw this..." Is the miracle keyword
"when you draw this" does exist in magic, it's just "when you draw this you may reveal it and..."
Surprised Tenacious D didn't get a Hearthstone card to coincide with Tenacious D and Dave Grohl performing at Blizzcon.
"Oh thats Tenacious D"
The card does the Tenacious D thing as its effect, a direct correlation
"Real"
Lmao
Can't believe the greedy grinner didn't get selected
5:12 Miracle has that line
Regarding Four-tune Fortuner... if you know a bit of Hearthstone, it's pretty clear that it's fake. The "4 mana-worth of cards" is a bit too weird for Hearthstone. What happens if you have only 5+ mana cards in your deck? Do you draw one, or not? If you do, is it random or the cheapest? What if you only have 3 drops? Do you get 2 or just 1?
Hearthstone has plenty of questionable interactions, but the effects are all pretty well defined. Except a few that are just "get a rock spell" which doesn't tell you much, but is still specific and clear. Once you figure out what the thing it does is, then it's a non-questionable effect like all the others.
For Walking Mountain, why is there no comma between Windfury and Overload?
I think "dying" to Serenity is (storywise) just leaving the battlefield
I care about Doug Dimmadome
"Gain +10 Attack" doesn't say "this turn", so it makes your hero have 10 Attack forever. Including your opponent turns. What a baller!
Kael'thas Sunstrider was also in Warcraft 3, so there's a chance CGB knows him
Four-tune Fortuner could be busted as a final card for fatigue decks since they don't cost mana.
49:28 wondering if CGB has a higher evaluation of the Mortal Kombat power level because he doesnt realize you have to have enough life to survive your opponent's board. Fighting stuff with your face doesnt really translate to mtg.
The little bits with the LA Noir sounds are so funny! XD
Desert Viper also would be a bad card from a game design standpoint because if you get it in your opening hand it just does nothing. You have to have a minion on the board when you draw it.
Actually in Magic theres a mechanic called Miracle which works when you draw it
5:08 he forgot about Miracle😂
Hello Mr. Ramranch dressing, Fel magic is essentially demon magic. Which is funny because CovertGoBlue said he played Warcraft 3, where orcs get corrupted by a demon by drinking its blood and becoming fel orcs.
This was pretty fun as an ex-Hearthstone player. Video maker needs to get into playing Werewolf/Mafia.
Had to tab out at 17:49 to play that one doug dimmadome remix
Curse of the worgen also keeps them from becoming undead. Worgens were made to kill the undead.
I like the chemistry you two have. These are fun videos.
Second he claims to not know another 16 hp minion, I instantly think about Ultrasaur
Ultrasaur has 14hp
There _is_ Slagmaw at 16hp however
@@NoxarBoididn't they buff Ultrasaur though?
Edit: Apparently it was Dinosize that I was thinking of, being changed to make a minion Ultrasaur-Stated.
Though depending on whether above 16s count as well, the Darkness, the Ancient one, and the guy you get off the 7cultitsts all have above 16 HP
@@QuickSilverKitsune Yeah, I thought the same and had to check myself. Though speaking of Highkeeper Ra(the cultist guy), fun lore fact: he’s apparently the same Ra-den brought up in this video 31:58
Covert forgot about the miracle mechanic which basically reads "When you draw this...".
30:53 it should be naga art, goblins can't have 4 real arms (since art didn't show that they are magical)
Never heard of covertgoblue before - now I'm a massive fan! :)
@04:58 CovertGoBlue not remembering Miracle is an on draw trigger
Miracles? When you draw this
"When you draw this" is a miracle CGB... cmon
No it isn’t. That only activates when you draw it specifically for your normal draw at the start of your turn. Not if you draw it with a card effect.
Was cute when Rarran asked if Magic had custom cards... like bro people made custom magic cards even online websites where could create and buy your own since the 90's xD
Rarren: "It´s a bad card = In arena maybe see play"
No, Cactus Rager is bad in all formats across the multiverse XD
15:36 Actually, there it is. His name is E.T.C., Band Manager. He certainly is somewhat used there but is not the most popular option to add (The most popular seems to be Yogg which... Fair enough, it's a Control tool to deal with Midrange, and while powerful, it's not something you rely on) because a 4 mana 4|4 against aggro is just a white flag.
MTG does in fact have "when you draw this" effects. They are called Miracles...
@CGB - The Fairly OddParents is one of my most favorite shows of all time. You have to watch at least SOME of it! You won't regret it! 😊