Couple of times you said that Bulgaria became soviet country. This is not true. We became partners / satellite of USSR, but we never were part of the union. The BKP actually applied to be accepted in the union but we got denied. Otherwise I like the video. Great job finding people to interview. Only handful of UA-camrs include locals in their videos.
I think that's just a mental shortcut. Soviet country or a satellite Soviet state, ultimately what he wanted to say is that Bulgaria was in the Soviet sphere of influence, not that it became the part of the Soviet Union itself.
1. Not our anthem 2. Bulgaria was never a soviet republic 3. There was a referendum on Buzludzha and the commies failed - the monument will most likely be dismantled. 4. Kambanite isn't a communist monument. It's a peace monument of the children of the world - Children's assembly banner of peace. 5. There is a court case about Alyosha in Plovdiv - There was a protest and counterprotest and will most likely be removed. 6. For many of us these monuments represent the pain of losing relatives to the real monument of communism in BG - The Belene concentration camp and the Buhovo uranium mines for political prisoners.
I'm aware it's former the USSR anthem, I deliberated a lot on what song to open with and couldn't find any that quite fit - I asked a Polish friend and she recommended it. I hadn't considered it might be thought of as misinformation and apologise for the mistakes. I hope they don't detract from the video too much. Thanks for watching 😊 EDIT: I also appreciate that you watched the whole video and offered thoughtful input.
When the red army entered Bulgaria they declared war on us,they occupied us and didnt liberated Bulgaria cause we was not occupied by the nazi,even we were allies(but we save all our 50 000 Jews,the only state in Europe to do it)....when Soviets came Bulgaria was perfectly build and brand new(build between 1878-1944 all by the book),cause after the ottomans left,we demolished almost all buildings from the era and we build pieces of art cities all arround Bulgaria,but the comunists demoloshed many of them because they represent the tsarist capitalists ,wich is so ignorant,many of the old architecture left and some of our cities are called the litle Vienna like ruse and Sofia before the British Americans destroyed the city in ww2 without we fight in the war,pure warcrime
You raise many good points, especially when discussing the irony of preserving the architecture of those that destroyed Bulgarian buildings and artworks. And, similarly, in raising the irony inherent in communist countries that are "for the workers" whilst also building monuments of their greatness at the expense of said workers.
We are not fighting to preserve it. If were, it would have been maintained, but you see that it's abandoned af. Most of us either don't care about these places or want them removed. There is a smaller and yet very vocal community that wants to preserve anything from that dark- ish period of Bulgarian history.
Its nice to hear an alternative point of view, most of the people I spoke with were in support of their maintenance (depending on the monument) which honestly surprised me. I do think it's interesting that people have protested the destruction of both Alyosha and the Monument that was recently torn down in Sofia. Did you watch the whole video? I get the title might be a little high modality but I'd love to hear your thoughts on my understanding of the history.
@LostAndAbroad1 Yes, I'm honored for your attention on this topic and the interest in the country - good video! But I must re- phrase myself : Certain monuments are problematic with their placement and one day should be replaced with something to be proud of, rather than something that reminds us every day of the trauma and in time shifts it's meaning, and becomes a cult symbol and a hub for a new generation of pro- russian enthusiasts, who bring needless instabillity in this country. But hey - that's what museums are for. No need for this dominating architecture to be smack- dab in the middle of our biggest cities, when the space could be used for something less depressing and more meaningful. With that said - I support the restoration of non- centrally located monuments like the Bells and the UFO and which would make them more special. Mostly people in the rural areas or around Varna (which used to be called Stalin city) are still fans of the USSR, but in the capital we have more up to date prespective on things. The "4- angled 5- d*cked" monument in Sofia was replaced with a cool little lion and it worked out great - I can't see why this can't happen with the Soviet army's memorial, the Brother's hill, Alyosha, the Varna monument, If they are partially preserved in a dedicated place. Fun fact - when the russians came to ''free us", they destroyed some of our monuments too. Another one is - one of my uncles was one of the few main sculptors of the Soviet Army's monument in Sofia (the female faces are modeled after the face of his wife - the only creative liberty in the project. Everything else was directed from Moscow) - Even the people in his family are happy that the main statue was removed because it reminds them of all the oppression and the lack of freedom they lived under, no matter what the stupid politicians say, so yeah... you can figure out where the division in our society starts from on this matter.
@@mr__coyote3061 Aside from at the end, where I did share some of my milder opinions, I tried to remain somewhat objective (I know that's not truly possible and many argue, correctly, that my choice of music is inherently sympathetic toward these monuments) but my truer opinions are probably closer to yours. Some of these should be destroyed or relocated. Alyosha for example, that statue overlooks the entire city of Plovdiv and is, at most, some meaningless to many of its citizens and, at worst, actively upsetting. Maybe something else could use that real estate. HOWEVER, I am genuinely devasted the Red Army monument in Sofia was taken down. The graffiti work that transformed the soldiers in pop culture icons in genuinely inspired and something that repurposes the art into something new. It was the main reason I wanted to visit Sofia and, upon hearing of its destruction, I considered not going at all. I understand why it was taken down but, as you say, maybe it could have just been relocated to a museum. I do believe though that the Khambanite and Shumen monuments transcend the context of their construction. They may have been built during the soviet era and with communist stylings but their spirit and meaning hold true sentiment to the country of Bulgaria and, I think, deserve preservation. As for Buzludzha, it looks so damn cool in its own merit that I think it should be turned into a museum and preserved that way. Turn it into something that benefits Bulgaria (through tourism) without tampering with its outer facade.
@@LostAndAbroad1 they stopped the termination process of the one in Sofia after removing just one statue (the top one), so it's still there... And it might be there for the nex 10-20 years :DDD You are welcome again, also there is a suuuper cool music festival every year at the UFO, it's a big dream of mine to visit it one day. I have the same exact idea for the ufo - it has potential to be the pinnacle of soviet museums and I've seen 3D renders of that project (many people have the same idea), but it's so far on the backburner, that the structure would collapse long before any action is taken by anyone. If you decide to visit again, I'm in for a few beers 🍻
There are very few people that are fighting to preserve the communist history in Bulgaria. This was the most shameful and backward period of the Bulgarian history
As I said in the video, I've not got a personal connection to that period of history and am very far removed from the pain it brings up. But, as an outsider, I appreciate that these monuments are still accessible - they act as reminders of how occupation (either literal or figurative) can result in a dehumanised society. I even think there's value in preserving the aesthetic. However, they also act as tragic reminders for some.
Bulgarians had more rights and freedoms and were far less persecuted under the Ottoman Empire compared to the time under the communist rule. Darkest period of our history is spot on.
@Micah_T. I think it depends who you were. Some peoples suffered more persecution under one rule than the other. At the very least, the Ottoman Empire had nicer architecture.
@@LostAndAbroad1 I'm not denying there were mass murders such as the Batak massacre, but the Ottoman Sultan was the one who stepped in to defend the Bulgarian Orthodox Church's independence when the Greek and Moscow Patriarchates tried to force greek in our churches and destroy our identity. Bulgarians were free to travel abroad and conduct business and were one of the most prosperous traders during Ottoman rule as we had access to both European and Oriental markets. But overall there was no persecution outside of post-revolt actions. We did not suffer like the Armenians did, but we were treated fairly good. The common myth of "Ottoman slavery" around the Balkans I believe is a result of the beforementioned anti-turkish propaganda after Turkey joined NATO. I am yet to hear about slaves that owned property, had freedom to travel, built their own schools and paid taxes.
@@Micah_T.При такъв "рахат" по време на "присъствието" как да си обясним всичките въстания срещу въпросното "присъствие"? Когато фактите говорят и боговете мълчат, но НЕ и туркофилите...
Seems like there is a general consensus that since it's part of history, the monuments should not be distroyed. Did you not find anyone that had a different opinion?
@lukaszpawelsiwiec yea there's that one dude after Aliosha that said it should be destroyed because it represents Societ occupation. However, I will say, I was asking people around the Monuments - I think people near the Monuments probably have a predisposition to liking them.
@@LostAndAbroad1 Indeed, the local people who go to those monuments (at least the ones that aren't in central, urban locations, but are more off the beaten track) are probably more likely to be sympathizers of the communist regime. It would be interesting to find out if there would be a different ratio of answers if the questions were asked to random people in the city itself. As for the "we must preserve it, because it's part of our history" reasoning - while I largely agree with it myself, I can't help but think that most of those very same people would have had very, very different reactions if instead of communist monuments, we were talking about Ottoman or even Nazi ones. I remember that years ago some Turkish businessman had expressed the idea to create a monument (or maybe even just a plaque?) to the fallen Ottoman soldiers at Shipka, alongside the respective grand monument about the Bulgarian and Russian casualties. Needless to say, the public outcry was extremely negative. And yet, aren't the nearly five centuries of Ottoman rule also a part of our history? If somebody's rejecting one foreign oppressor, but welcoming another, then it's not "our history" they really care about. P.S. I am also somewhat saddened at the loss of potential for "artistic vandalism" that the removal of the monument in Sofia has caused (btw, that monument isn't destroyed - the statue parts are intended to be restored and moved to the museum for socialist art, AFAIK), but after all, that wasn't the only communist monument that got temporal rebrandings - the Alyosha in Plovdiv also woke up one morning with a giant red cape on its back and a bandit's handkerchief on its mouth, which I think looked really cool (and was completely non-destructive). A statue of Dimitar Blagoev also became Santa at one point. Now I'm waiting for someone to finally find our Darth Vader candidate...
Why would they teardown the monuments? They're part of Bulgaria's history. Plus, as a piece of art/architecture they look impressive...Of course art is subjective but I like it anyway 😅
@mlondon1157 As one of the guys I interviewed said, "they represent soviet occupation." I met someone in Plovdiv, a Ukranian refugee, who declined to be in the video thay said Alyosha (the statue of a Russian soldier) was a constant reminder of the war in his home country that was always looking down on him, every second of every day. From that perspective, I can see the argument for their destruction. As others have pointed out though, the Monument Shumen and the Khambanite in Sofia were built by the communists but don't represent the communists so there's less reason for their destruction and probably accounts for why they're so well maintained whilst some of the others are not.
@ConcernedCiti-Zen Depends who you speak to, all bar two of the Bulgarians I spoke to wanted to hold on to this monuments as a reminder. I actually really struggled to find alternative view points and was worried about sounding bias.
@SlowHardware Russel Crowe was born in New Zealand and moved to Australia when he was 14 and identifies as an Aussie. That's why we get a bell, it's because it's made from his Oscar.
This video and its title are misleading. Only last year the monument of soviet occupation was removed from the centre of Sofia. Aliosha is under question, too. You are right about the brainwashed nostalgic people, tho...
I don't know if I'd call those people brainwashed - but I can see why others would. I think Nostalgia in and of itself implies some form of "brainwashing." My nostalgia tells me that Jar Jar Binks is the best part of Stat Wars, because he was when I was five, but hindsight tells me otherwise.
The communism was the greatest period of Bulgaria. Everyone shoud remember what USSR did for us and who awer thru enemy in the face of the anglo-american treat!
Dude...the Shumen monument was build by Bulgarians. It's called "The monument of the Bulgarian founders" or 1300 years of Bulgaria. It even has 1300 steps for every year since Bulgaria was founded. Also what do you mean the darkest period in Bulgarian history? 500 years of Turkish occupation , where they raped our mothers and killed our fathers probably was such a fun time. I don't particularly like Bulgaria, but I hate misinformation. You got your answer from the first guy. When you make a mistake do you wish to forget it? You might, but how will you learn from it then? More than half of what you are saying is simply not true and what really makes me sad is that you will feel no repricutions from slandering a whole nation.
Actually, the Shumen monument was built in 1981 under communist leadership. Much like the Khambanite monument, it is "communist" in design and era but not in what it represents. As I say in the video, not all communist monuments celebrate communism. I guess it comes down to definition, to me if it's built during the communist era, with communist aesthetics, and was approved by the communists party then its a communist monument - even if it was designed by a Bulgarian. I also think it's a shame to get hung up on the hyperbole of "darkest period" as a means to ignore the mass the persecution of intellectuals and ethnic minorities because "the Turkish occupation was darker." Thanks for watching the video, and don't forget to subscribe.
@@LostAndAbroad1 I'm sure it was even build with Soviet money. But, atleast we agree on what it represents. Also like I said Bulgarians build that. They actually carried materials with wheel barrows to the top. All statues are of people who lived before the otomans got here. I find this video pure slander. No matter what you say. It's not just about that monument or the "Darkest period". It's also, about a lot of "Facts" you share and the overall tone of the video. Also as a teacher you should know that words matter. You can't say not to get hung up on a perticilar sentence or phrase.
@@LostAndAbroad1 Oh,forgot to mention. After 500 years of Otomans,there where Russians right after that. Bulgaria lost any identety and culture. No one knew anything else. I don't know what other design you expect.
It wasn't the Ottomans who sent Bulgarians to concentration camps like Belene and Sunny Beach. It wasn't the Ottomans who abolished the right to private property and ruined our agriculture with their ТКЗС system. While we did lose our independence for several centuries under the Ottomans, a lot of the history we are taught in school about how bad things were under them, is a result of communist propaganda taking over our history books after Turkey joined NATO in the 1950s. 500 years under the Ottomans, yet we did not start speaking turkish, yet for just a few decades under the soviet boot, the entire population was forced to learn russian and was brainwashed by the antihuman communist ideology.
I don't think that quote is relevant honestly. Bulgarians aren't going back to Communism, some just want to preserve the memory to not repeat it. That'd be like a dog eating chocolate, vomitting the chocolate, and not cleaning the it up as a reminder not to eat chocolate.
Funny how its only in your wikipedia page that shows you have any relations to Macedonia. Guess the whole world lives on denial and only you idiots know the truth.
We are slavic. Even though some tatars did migrate here they probably got diluted in the gene pool. Tatars are mostly mongolian and you a Macedonian are probably more Bulgarian than 50% of Bulgarian population. How can so much ignorence be in one page. We are well aware Macedonions don't like us, but honestly we forgot you even existed. We will see who gets the other half of Macedonia in the future.
Couple of times you said that Bulgaria became soviet country. This is not true. We became partners / satellite of USSR, but we never were part of the union. The BKP actually applied to be accepted in the union but we got denied. Otherwise I like the video. Great job finding people to interview. Only handful of UA-camrs include locals in their videos.
Thanks for the corrections
I think that's just a mental shortcut. Soviet country or a satellite Soviet state, ultimately what he wanted to say is that Bulgaria was in the Soviet sphere of influence, not that it became the part of the Soviet Union itself.
1. Not our anthem
2. Bulgaria was never a soviet republic
3. There was a referendum on Buzludzha and the commies failed - the monument will most likely be dismantled.
4. Kambanite isn't a communist monument. It's a peace monument of the children of the world - Children's assembly banner of peace.
5. There is a court case about Alyosha in Plovdiv - There was a protest and counterprotest and will most likely be removed.
6. For many of us these monuments represent the pain of losing relatives to the real monument of communism in BG - The Belene concentration camp and the Buhovo uranium mines for political prisoners.
I'm aware it's former the USSR anthem, I deliberated a lot on what song to open with and couldn't find any that quite fit - I asked a Polish friend and she recommended it. I hadn't considered it might be thought of as misinformation and apologise for the mistakes. I hope they don't detract from the video too much. Thanks for watching 😊
EDIT: I also appreciate that you watched the whole video and offered thoughtful input.
Isn't Belene still operating?
When the red army entered Bulgaria they declared war on us,they occupied us and didnt liberated Bulgaria cause we was not occupied by the nazi,even we were allies(but we save all our 50 000 Jews,the only state in Europe to do it)....when Soviets came Bulgaria was perfectly build and brand new(build between 1878-1944 all by the book),cause after the ottomans left,we demolished almost all buildings from the era and we build pieces of art cities all arround Bulgaria,but the comunists demoloshed many of them because they represent the tsarist capitalists ,wich is so ignorant,many of the old architecture left and some of our cities are called the litle Vienna like ruse and Sofia before the British Americans destroyed the city in ww2 without we fight in the war,pure warcrime
You raise many good points, especially when discussing the irony of preserving the architecture of those that destroyed Bulgarian buildings and artworks. And, similarly, in raising the irony inherent in communist countries that are "for the workers" whilst also building monuments of their greatness at the expense of said workers.
We are not fighting to preserve it. If were, it would have been maintained, but you see that it's abandoned af. Most of us either don't care about these places or want them removed. There is a smaller and yet very vocal community that wants to preserve anything from that dark- ish period of Bulgarian history.
Its nice to hear an alternative point of view, most of the people I spoke with were in support of their maintenance (depending on the monument) which honestly surprised me. I do think it's interesting that people have protested the destruction of both Alyosha and the Monument that was recently torn down in Sofia. Did you watch the whole video? I get the title might be a little high modality but I'd love to hear your thoughts on my understanding of the history.
@LostAndAbroad1 Yes, I'm honored for your attention on this topic and the interest in the country - good video! But I must re- phrase myself :
Certain monuments are problematic with their placement and one day should be replaced with something to be proud of, rather than something that reminds us every day of the trauma and in time shifts it's meaning, and becomes a cult symbol and a hub for a new generation of pro- russian enthusiasts, who bring needless instabillity in this country.
But hey - that's what museums are for. No need for this dominating architecture to be smack- dab in the middle of our biggest cities, when the space could be used for something less depressing and more meaningful. With that said - I support the restoration of non- centrally located monuments like the Bells and the UFO and which would make them more special. Mostly people in the rural areas or around Varna (which used to be called Stalin city) are still fans of the USSR, but in the capital we have more up to date prespective on things. The "4- angled 5- d*cked" monument in Sofia was replaced with a cool little lion and it worked out great - I can't see why this can't happen with the Soviet army's memorial, the Brother's hill, Alyosha, the Varna monument, If they are partially preserved in a dedicated place.
Fun fact - when the russians came to ''free us", they destroyed some of our monuments too. Another one is - one of my uncles was one of the few main sculptors of the Soviet Army's monument in Sofia (the female faces are modeled after the face of his wife - the only creative liberty in the project. Everything else was directed from Moscow) - Even the people in his family are happy that the main statue was removed because it reminds them of all the oppression and the lack of freedom they lived under, no matter what the stupid politicians say, so yeah... you can figure out where the division in our society starts from on this matter.
@@mr__coyote3061 Aside from at the end, where I did share some of my milder opinions, I tried to remain somewhat objective (I know that's not truly possible and many argue, correctly, that my choice of music is inherently sympathetic toward these monuments) but my truer opinions are probably closer to yours. Some of these should be destroyed or relocated. Alyosha for example, that statue overlooks the entire city of Plovdiv and is, at most, some meaningless to many of its citizens and, at worst, actively upsetting. Maybe something else could use that real estate.
HOWEVER, I am genuinely devasted the Red Army monument in Sofia was taken down. The graffiti work that transformed the soldiers in pop culture icons in genuinely inspired and something that repurposes the art into something new. It was the main reason I wanted to visit Sofia and, upon hearing of its destruction, I considered not going at all. I understand why it was taken down but, as you say, maybe it could have just been relocated to a museum.
I do believe though that the Khambanite and Shumen monuments transcend the context of their construction. They may have been built during the soviet era and with communist stylings but their spirit and meaning hold true sentiment to the country of Bulgaria and, I think, deserve preservation.
As for Buzludzha, it looks so damn cool in its own merit that I think it should be turned into a museum and preserved that way. Turn it into something that benefits Bulgaria (through tourism) without tampering with its outer facade.
@@mr__coyote3061 Bulgaria is always on a wrong side. This time is not different.
@@LostAndAbroad1 they stopped the termination process of the one in Sofia after removing just one statue (the top one), so it's still there... And it might be there for the nex 10-20 years :DDD
You are welcome again, also there is a suuuper cool music festival every year at the UFO, it's a big dream of mine to visit it one day.
I have the same exact idea for the ufo - it has potential to be the pinnacle of soviet museums and I've seen 3D renders of that project (many people have the same idea), but it's so far on the backburner, that the structure would collapse long before any action is taken by anyone.
If you decide to visit again, I'm in for a few beers 🍻
There are very few people that are fighting to preserve the communist history in Bulgaria. This was the most shameful and backward period of the Bulgarian history
As I said in the video, I've not got a personal connection to that period of history and am very far removed from the pain it brings up. But, as an outsider, I appreciate that these monuments are still accessible - they act as reminders of how occupation (either literal or figurative) can result in a dehumanised society. I even think there's value in preserving the aesthetic. However, they also act as tragic reminders for some.
why is it backwards and shameful?
Allying with germany in ww2 might have been a little bit more shameful.
You should read some of the other comments 😅
0:51 Darkest period of hystory? Maybe you should read something about Ottoman Bulgaria?
😅 yea you're right... sometimes I let my hyperbole run wild
Bulgarians had more rights and freedoms and were far less persecuted under the Ottoman Empire compared to the time under the communist rule. Darkest period of our history is spot on.
@Micah_T. I think it depends who you were. Some peoples suffered more persecution under one rule than the other. At the very least, the Ottoman Empire had nicer architecture.
@@LostAndAbroad1 I'm not denying there were mass murders such as the Batak massacre, but the Ottoman Sultan was the one who stepped in to defend the Bulgarian Orthodox Church's independence when the Greek and Moscow Patriarchates tried to force greek in our churches and destroy our identity. Bulgarians were free to travel abroad and conduct business and were one of the most prosperous traders during Ottoman rule as we had access to both European and Oriental markets. But overall there was no persecution outside of post-revolt actions. We did not suffer like the Armenians did, but we were treated fairly good. The common myth of "Ottoman slavery" around the Balkans I believe is a result of the beforementioned anti-turkish propaganda after Turkey joined NATO. I am yet to hear about slaves that owned property, had freedom to travel, built their own schools and paid taxes.
@@Micah_T.При такъв "рахат" по време на "присъствието" как да си обясним всичките въстания срещу въпросното "присъствие"? Когато фактите говорят и боговете мълчат, но НЕ и туркофилите...
Grammar police here, haven't watched the vid but it's not "it's" it's "its" - "it's" means "it is" while "its" means possessive of it.
You are correct and, as a Literature teacher, I should know better. Shame on me.
Seems like there is a general consensus that since it's part of history, the monuments should not be distroyed.
Did you not find anyone that had a different opinion?
@lukaszpawelsiwiec yea there's that one dude after Aliosha that said it should be destroyed because it represents Societ occupation. However, I will say, I was asking people around the Monuments - I think people near the Monuments probably have a predisposition to liking them.
@@LostAndAbroad1 Indeed, the local people who go to those monuments (at least the ones that aren't in central, urban locations, but are more off the beaten track) are probably more likely to be sympathizers of the communist regime. It would be interesting to find out if there would be a different ratio of answers if the questions were asked to random people in the city itself.
As for the "we must preserve it, because it's part of our history" reasoning - while I largely agree with it myself, I can't help but think that most of those very same people would have had very, very different reactions if instead of communist monuments, we were talking about Ottoman or even Nazi ones. I remember that years ago some Turkish businessman had expressed the idea to create a monument (or maybe even just a plaque?) to the fallen Ottoman soldiers at Shipka, alongside the respective grand monument about the Bulgarian and Russian casualties. Needless to say, the public outcry was extremely negative. And yet, aren't the nearly five centuries of Ottoman rule also a part of our history? If somebody's rejecting one foreign oppressor, but welcoming another, then it's not "our history" they really care about.
P.S. I am also somewhat saddened at the loss of potential for "artistic vandalism" that the removal of the monument in Sofia has caused (btw, that monument isn't destroyed - the statue parts are intended to be restored and moved to the museum for socialist art, AFAIK), but after all, that wasn't the only communist monument that got temporal rebrandings - the Alyosha in Plovdiv also woke up one morning with a giant red cape on its back and a bandit's handkerchief on its mouth, which I think looked really cool (and was completely non-destructive). A statue of Dimitar Blagoev also became Santa at one point. Now I'm waiting for someone to finally find our Darth Vader candidate...
Why would they teardown the monuments? They're part of Bulgaria's history. Plus, as a piece of art/architecture they look impressive...Of course art is subjective but I like it anyway 😅
@mlondon1157 As one of the guys I interviewed said, "they represent soviet occupation." I met someone in Plovdiv, a Ukranian refugee, who declined to be in the video thay said Alyosha (the statue of a Russian soldier) was a constant reminder of the war in his home country that was always looking down on him, every second of every day. From that perspective, I can see the argument for their destruction. As others have pointed out though, the Monument Shumen and the Khambanite in Sofia were built by the communists but don't represent the communists so there's less reason for their destruction and probably accounts for why they're so well maintained whilst some of the others are not.
07:52 The Transformers landed in Bulgaria
Yea! I thought so too!!!
Bulgaria was never a Soviet Republic. It was a satelite state member of the Caricom and the Warsaw Pact.
I think it's pretty common place to use the phrase soviet country to refer to both soviet republics and soviet satellites.
"The Country Fighting to Preserve Its Communist History" Which country is that? It's definitely not Bulgaria. Glouposti.
@ConcernedCiti-Zen Depends who you speak to, all bar two of the Bulgarians I spoke to wanted to hold on to this monuments as a reminder. I actually really struggled to find alternative view points and was worried about sounding bias.
Що не си сложиш - вместо българското - знамето на Ислямското емирство Афганистан, талибанче?!?
Rip New Zealand why didn't we give a bell??
@@SlowHardware because of Russel Crowe
@LostAndAbroad1 🤣 he's British
@SlowHardware Russel Crowe was born in New Zealand and moved to Australia when he was 14 and identifies as an Aussie. That's why we get a bell, it's because it's made from his Oscar.
@LostAndAbroad1 oh shit the more you know
this deserves more views
Watch it again 😜
But thanks for watching it. If you enjoyed it, it does help a lot if you subscribe or share the video with friends.
Love the energy.
Thanks, glad you liked it
This video and its title are misleading. Only last year the monument of soviet occupation was removed from the centre of Sofia. Aliosha is under question, too. You are right about the brainwashed nostalgic people, tho...
I don't know if I'd call those people brainwashed - but I can see why others would. I think Nostalgia in and of itself implies some form of "brainwashing." My nostalgia tells me that Jar Jar Binks is the best part of Stat Wars, because he was when I was five, but hindsight tells me otherwise.
the Macedonian population in Pirin got fucked during the pbr
Let's normalise the use of PRB
The communism was the greatest period of Bulgaria. Everyone shoud remember what USSR did for us and who awer thru enemy in the face of the anglo-american treat!
I don't know if I'd call anglo-americans a treat. But who am I to judge? If you think they look like a snack, power to you ☺️
Dude...the Shumen monument was build by Bulgarians. It's called "The monument of the Bulgarian founders" or 1300 years of Bulgaria. It even has 1300 steps for every year since Bulgaria was founded. Also what do you mean the darkest period in Bulgarian history? 500 years of Turkish occupation , where they raped our mothers and killed our fathers probably was such a fun time. I don't particularly like Bulgaria, but I hate misinformation. You got your answer from the first guy. When you make a mistake do you wish to forget it? You might, but how will you learn from it then? More than half of what you are saying is simply not true and what really makes me sad is that you will feel no repricutions from slandering a whole nation.
Actually, the Shumen monument was built in 1981 under communist leadership. Much like the Khambanite monument, it is "communist" in design and era but not in what it represents. As I say in the video, not all communist monuments celebrate communism. I guess it comes down to definition, to me if it's built during the communist era, with communist aesthetics, and was approved by the communists party then its a communist monument - even if it was designed by a Bulgarian. I also think it's a shame to get hung up on the hyperbole of "darkest period" as a means to ignore the mass the persecution of intellectuals and ethnic minorities because "the Turkish occupation was darker." Thanks for watching the video, and don't forget to subscribe.
@@LostAndAbroad1 I'm sure it was even build with Soviet money. But, atleast we agree on what it represents. Also like I said Bulgarians build that. They actually carried materials with wheel barrows to the top. All statues are of people who lived before the otomans got here. I find this video pure slander. No matter what you say. It's not just about that monument or the "Darkest period". It's also, about a lot of "Facts" you share and the overall tone of the video. Also as a teacher you should know that words matter. You can't say not to get hung up on a perticilar sentence or phrase.
@@LostAndAbroad1 Oh,forgot to mention. After 500 years of Otomans,there where Russians right after that. Bulgaria lost any identety and culture. No one knew anything else. I don't know what other design you expect.
It wasn't the Ottomans who sent Bulgarians to concentration camps like Belene and Sunny Beach. It wasn't the Ottomans who abolished the right to private property and ruined our agriculture with their ТКЗС system. While we did lose our independence for several centuries under the Ottomans, a lot of the history we are taught in school about how bad things were under them, is a result of communist propaganda taking over our history books after Turkey joined NATO in the 1950s. 500 years under the Ottomans, yet we did not start speaking turkish, yet for just a few decades under the soviet boot, the entire population was forced to learn russian and was brainwashed by the antihuman communist ideology.
@JSunday45 I mean, All the communist monuments in Bulgaria were built by Bulgarians. They built Buzludzha and the Monument in Varna too.
As Jesus said, The dog eats what it vomited.
I don't think that quote is relevant honestly. Bulgarians aren't going back to Communism, some just want to preserve the memory to not repeat it. That'd be like a dog eating chocolate, vomitting the chocolate, and not cleaning the it up as a reminder not to eat chocolate.
Bulgarians are tatars who escaped from the vikings( russian nowadays ) and came to my land, the land of the makedons !🎉😂
And Australians are convicts from England, and, if you go back far enough, we all come from North Africa.
Funny how its only in your wikipedia page that shows you have any relations to Macedonia. Guess the whole world lives on denial and only you idiots know the truth.
We are slavic. Even though some tatars did migrate here they probably got diluted in the gene pool. Tatars are mostly mongolian and you a Macedonian are probably more Bulgarian than 50% of Bulgarian population. How can so much ignorence be in one page. We are well aware Macedonions don't like us, but honestly we forgot you even existed. We will see who gets the other half of Macedonia in the future.
@LostAndAbroad1 middle east to be exact.
@LostAndAbroad1 but the scots and vikings no, they are indigenes to that lands, the unwashed ones 😄