I have switched to the Honeycomb Yoke, and it is quite a bit better, but the throttle, I stand by the CH one being superior for flying twins - having the proper detent for beta and reverse is still way nicer than Honeycomb (or others) implementation.
Absolutely - the next video in the series shows something I soldered/built and custom coded to really help with the immersion (and hopefully I didn't make it too geeky).
That's a really nice setup you have there. It looks pretty simple: looks like you've got only what you need, only what you use, but most importantly, you still have plenty of desk space. Thanks for sharing.
Thank you so much, Connor - I have another video in my Flight Sim playlist of my whole setup and why I have it that way. It has been so tempting to take over the desk, but when I need to work properly, it is very nice to be able to take everything off in a few seconds and have a proper table.
I had a problem years ago with the clamps on the yoke pulling out when tightening them too much. The problem was that they tension broke the internal posts that hold the nuts that the clamps screw into; if it hasn't happened to you yet consider yourself lucky. This is a bit of a design flaw IMO, but is incredibly easy to repair, or as a bit of prevention to make sure that it never happens to you. There is a very simple fix that I've done on the yoke as well as the throttle quadrant. The trick is to replace the standard nuts with ¼-20 flange nuts, a pair of which will set you back maybe 50 cents. This redistributes the load on the internal plastic post, and with these in place you'd have to be a gorilla to break the mounts. I've done this mods for friends as well as on some broken yokes that I picked up at a thrift store for next to nothing. If your devices are out of warranty it might be worth doing.
Thank you so much for posting the fix - I haven't had an issue yet so I will keep it the way it is for the moment, but I am thankful I can come back to this post to repair it if necessary.
Thanks so much for that! I appreciate it. I think I still would pick this over the Honeycomb Bravo, due to the detents that you can make beta/reverse work a bit better, plus I have heard the Bravo has had some quality issues over time. The Honeycomb Alpha, is still the best value/yoke on the market.
I love and have had my CH yoke and pedals for 15 years (mid 2005) and I'm still using them with very few problems. I was using it with FS2000 when CH products had a software disc you could load to manage your CH products! I did have to replace the clamping nuts within the housing. My biggest problems are with the moveable wiring within the Pro Pedals. Those wires can only flex back and forth a million times before they break and you can't BRAKE! I replaced those 6 wires (3 for each pedal) with a better silicone wire that is also a bit thicker. That seems to be much better. So thanks for not being a "Yoke snob." I'm presently Googling and ogling the Honeycomb Bravo Throttle Quadrant. I figure after 15 years, I'm due for a well deserved upgrade
My advice would be to DEFINITELY buy the Honeycomb products if you can - at this point I was already happy with my yoke, and if I waited, it would have been at least a year and a half to have a dual quadrant. I didn't buy the CH pedals, as I knew some of the newer designs worked better, so I lucked out there. So far I haven't had an issue with the clamps - and I like how easy/sturdy they are. I did do a spring modification to make the yoke respond better and stick in a position more which is more realistic - it was a very easy upgrade. Thanks for watching!
I appreciate that, Ray. I have been training for my P3 on VATSIM (Commercial Multi Engine) and part of the test coming up is engine failure a few minutes after take off, then hand fly IMC to a point 20 miles out, then you are allowed to use the autopilot to do a DME arc, then back to hand flying to do an ILS landing - the dual throttle has been so instrumental in that - and works like a champ every time.
Very nice present, Kris. There's no point over-investing in hobby gear early on unless you know it'll repay itself over the long run. And just maybe your current kit will make you appreciate any future "upgrades" that little bit more :) cheers- Dean
Absolutely Dean - and lots of this stuff holds its value so you can sell it and reclaim most of your money - I got the yoke as a steal on ebay, but usually it sells for 80% of its retail price used... the quadrant I kept an eye out for and it sold for 95% of its value, so there was no point to get it used (and why my wife got it new). I have a geek video coming up that I think will impress you, a farm video, two more Disney videos, then back to music videos. I've felt more like listening to music than talking about it at the moment.
Thank you for not being an elitist. Hate when people say the Yoko is the only way to go. Its like, YES THE YOKO IS GREAT BUT ITS 1000 DOLLARS. Meanwhile the Logitech yoke is 160 dollars and still functions the same.
I will give that the Honeycomb yoke seems to combine the best of both worlds - that would be the one I would recommend to people if they can afford. Good equipment makes simming more fun, but it is a hobby and we aren't all in it as deep like some - these CH products are perfectly fine and I have enjoyed them immensely. Thanks for watching, Aaron!
Thank you for saying this, Jim - not enough people give these lower tier products enough credit - they think you need a yoko or it isn't worth doing at all, which is wrong. I was surprised that one of the people I watch, Slant Alpha Adventures flies with one as well.
Nice setup and review. Having dual controls for flying twins must be nice! I don't know how many times I've tried to adjust the mixture with the mouse and killed an engine when the mouse hiccuped.
Thanks so much - if you want a sneak peek, I already have my custom controls video up - it is in my XPLANE playlist (where I show how I custom coded controls with a Teensy). At first I didn't think I would need dual controls, just binding the two together with a single quadrant, but since getting it, I found I was wrong - having the separate levers makes things much easier/nicer. Being able to feather the props, and get into beta/reverse for other aircraft has also been really nice - I always forget is it the / or the ? to make that happen - now I just feel for the detent and I am set.
Nice review. I've had the CH Throttle Quadrant and Fighterstick for a while. The Fighterstick is pretty reasonable for flying and the shape of it means that you can put your hand on top and get fine adjustments if needed, plus it has quite a wide throw range. I was just searching for any way to add physical detents to the TQ and your video came up (flying the FF A320 or the A32NX, it would be nice to feel the throttles at FLX or TOGA, similarly with the new Aerosoft CRJ). I'm thinking of just adding some insulation tape on the gaps between the levers to mark positions. I like your labels for the switches, I do think the switches are useful on the TQ (but I tend to remember what they do, and so only use about 2 of them).
I haven't taken apart the Throttle Quadrant, but it wouldn't surprise me if there is a notch in plastic disk to make the detent - which means if you are brave you possibly could add one - but your solution is also good - a little feel of resistance by adding a friction gate on the top should do the same thing and will be reversible. Thanks so much for watching and commenting!
@@dixielandfarm Thanks for that. Interesting idea. As with your sticky labels though, the tape would be temporary and easy to undo so I might feel safer with it. I'd thought about adding resistance, but the tape was going to work more as a marker for me. There's about an inch between each lever, leaving room for some tape. That way I could look down at the TQ when moving the levers but hopefully it'll be quicker than trying to see the in-sim TQ. Thanks.
@@dixielandfarm Oh also, I think that the CH Products products are fine. Sure, you could spend thousands more on better ones. But I don't think using CH Products means that you take it less seriously, just that you work with what you can. I used to have some second-hand CH Products pedals and ended up throwing them out and getting some MFG Crosswinds. But the other peripherals are fine. The TQ axes can be a bit noisy at times but FSUIPC or a decent addon in xplane will generally remove any problem with that :)
You will enjoy my next video, then - I built an external box to manipulate things in the sim along with custom code to make it happen - real nerd stuff.
I got the yoke, TQ and pedals from CH when I used FS9/FS2004 many years ago. They worked just fine, but weren't as cheap back then as they're now. Have since been through a full cockpit setup of Saitek gear, but got rid of that two years ago when my interest in flight sims came to an end. I am however looking forward to the new sim from Microsoft, and might just get back in the game if it turns out as spectacular as it looks in the videos floating around.
FS2020 looks fantastic but I know I won't be using it - there is no way I will have the correct machine specs, fast enough internet, etc. I hope it does spawn X-Plane to continue to keep working on their product - it won't be able to compete with the visual imagery (since really that is Bing and its mapping that is causing that data to come through), but if it can compete in real world procedures and handling, I think lots of people will still keep X-Plane alive. I will be jealous of all the streamers who WILL uses FS2020, though :) I have a video coming up of a switchbox I built - its in my XPlane playlist right now if you want to watch, or you can catch it in a few weeks when I publish it for the public.
@@dixielandfarm I'm using an 8 or 9 year old computer now, so I'm gonna have to make a pretty hefty upgrade as well. I'll probably wait until the dust settles and prices for the top graphics cards come down before I take the plunge. Right now I prefer to spend my $ on records :)
@@dixielandfarm From what I have heard you will not need such a powerful pc as it will be subscription based and most of it will run from microsoft Azure cloud on their servers. We will wait and see.
That is good to know - I wonder how quick of a connection you will need - I heard you can pre-cache a bit, but still. In the end, it won't matter to me since I use Linux so I will be on the outs anyway. Luckily, with the ortho and other tweaks I have I've been pretty satisfied - so even though I won't get to join in, I will get to enjoy people's videos of it!
@@dixielandfarm yes I guess Internet speed will be key. In the UK still in areas of London there is no fibre so not sure how people will be able to play it online.
I have the yoke that you do but I ordered Honeycomb 8 months ago and it is on back order. I was wondering about this and if it is compatible with the honeycomb yoke.
Absolutely - the sim won't care at all - just like you can use a Logitech keyboard and a Microsoft mouse. In the end, the Bravo will match better with Alpha and you get that autopilot section as well, but honestly the beta/reverse I think might work better with this quadrant plus it takes up less room.
Honeycomb are definitely nice. I own honeycomb alpha and bravo and waiting for the charlie rudder pedals. I also have flight velocity panel with 1 logitech 3.5fip,1 logitech radio panel, 10in amazon tablet on my panel for flight map,rgb strips around the top and side of my panel I set to red, also just got the Logitech rudder pedals they are okay only keeping them till honeycomb brings there's out. Only need maybe 1 more logitech 3.5in fip and a logitech multi panel to complete my setup. Using a gigabyte 34in ultra wide 3440x1440 144hz 1ms monitor.
I have tried adding a second sim monitor but the frame rate drop was huge - I do have a second monitor for maps, vatsim client, etc... but not for the plane. These CH controls are good - obviously a Honeycomb is better and worth the money, but they weren't an option for me at the time, and still aren't an option for many people around the globe, so these DO work and are fine. Having said that, I always look lovingly at someone's setup who has them both :)
Hey there. I love your video. Does this throttle quadrant work ok in MSFS 2020. And if so does it set up as easily as the CH yoke did. I had no problem setting up the yoke but I would like the CH Throttle Quadrant if it will be compatible. Thanks so much.
@@dixielandfarm Hi there. I bought a CH Throttle Quadrant used from eBay. Hard to find them new now. Plugged it in and fired up MSFS and lo and behold it works perfectly. As a matter of fact it was all preset to a multi engine prop plane. Tried it out and it's absolutely great. Perfect size. Great functionality. Thanks again for all your info.
@@regicox So glad to hear it. I think the xplane store still sells them, but I found one for a friend for $40 on ebay for him… like you said, perfect size and I love the detent for beta/reverse which I use in the dash 8 or the saab.
Thanks so much! I would recommend the Honeycomb if one could afford, but these are half the price and still get the job done well. Plus, they can be found used for a steal sometimes (like mine!)
Thanks so much, Brian! Let me know how it works out for you! While the Honeycomb Bravo I'm sure is great, you will also probably be waiting some time as well - plus it seems kind of big.
Great Review, but I wanted to say that the Saitek Quadrant has these detends too, but they are kinda annyoing and you often accidentally activate them.
Ah, very good - I had read in a few places they didn't, but I guess they were wrong, or were talking about a different model. These detents are pretty obvious, though I wish there was a little more room in the beta range - you have to be very small to play with beta vs. reverse.
I have been using CH products since 1998 (Gameport Fighterstick Pro Throttle and Pro Pedals) I upgraded to USB in 2002. The only problems with CH gear is they are a really old design no dual throttle and the software has been practically abandoned. (It is a real PINTA to get Control Manager to work in windows 10) CH products as a company itself is now part of some Global Conglomerate and have pretty much stopped supporting the gear they currently still sell. They stopped selling spare parts back in 2010. so if something breaks your typically buying a new unit. I currently have 2 hotas sets of the CH fighterstick Pro Throttle and Pro Pedals. I also have the Yoke and the Throttle Quadrant. They are really good gear specially the throttle quadrant and Yokes. However I'm looking to upgrade my Hotas to Virpil Gear. So if your looking for the best entry level Yoke Throttle Quadrant and rudder pedals CH is the way to Go. If you want to toss in a Hotas I would recommend CH as well. However if you are going for a HOTAS set up only I would skip over CH at the entry level unless your already invested in CH gear. I would recommend a Good mid grade Warthog wanta be dual throttle Hotas system between logitech/saitek gear and the TM Warthog. If you want top end gear I would look at Winwing, VKB, and Virpil ..... Good luck getting Virpil gear.
Thank you for your insights! Since I run Linux, any of that software doesn't apply to me, and as a device it just shows up and is supported. I would get a Honeycomb if I was to do it all over again, however I really do like the clamping system - sturdy and easy. Removing the yoke from the desk is pretty trivial and with the spring mod I did, I find the yoke has just the right amount of slop that a real one would probably have.
@@dixielandfarm You only need the control manager software for Layered functionality on the Fighter Stick, Pro Throttle, and Eclipse Yoke as they are the only ones that have that function. You would also need it for Shift Functionality, Keyboard bindings, and Macro Bindings but those are now handled by the Sim and in some cases 3rd party software (Vjoy).
For replacement parts check Digikey. I was surprised to see many of the components for CH controllers available on their site. I've also salvaged many a broken mount on the yokes and throttle quadrants by replacing the standard internal nuts with flange nuts in order to strengthen this portion of the devices. I've found broken yokes and bought them for $2-3, replaced the nuts with 50 cents worth of flange nuts and resold them for $75-100 - almost all profit. Well worth 15 minutes of my time for the repair.
Sure.. it is plastic... and not metal.... but it is only just over $100... It is a much more cost effective product for the price. it does the job... right? Sure...I would love an expensive (Insert elitist snobby turntable here)... but my LP60 does the job good enough for me and was less than $100. With the old... damaged and beat-up records I spin... I want a turntable that has a cheap and easy to replace stylus... for me this is the best turntable.
That's the thing people on the internet don't realize - not everybody is into hobbies the same depth - I am more than satisfied with my "light" audiophile setup that people will come out of the woodwork to tell me is no good. Someone berated me on a super old video that I showed how I used placemats as record dividers because, well, it was too cheap of a solution that worked.
Well said Sir, waiting for my CH yoke.😊
I have switched to the Honeycomb Yoke, and it is quite a bit better, but the throttle, I stand by the CH one being superior for flying twins - having the proper detent for beta and reverse is still way nicer than Honeycomb (or others) implementation.
I can imagine that having this gear teamed up it makes the sim much more engaging than using keyboard commands. Looks like a nice set up.
Absolutely - the next video in the series shows something I soldered/built and custom coded to really help with the immersion (and hopefully I didn't make it too geeky).
That's a really nice setup you have there. It looks pretty simple: looks like you've got only what you need, only what you use, but most importantly, you still have plenty of desk space. Thanks for sharing.
Thank you so much, Connor - I have another video in my Flight Sim playlist of my whole setup and why I have it that way. It has been so tempting to take over the desk, but when I need to work properly, it is very nice to be able to take everything off in a few seconds and have a proper table.
I had a problem years ago with the clamps on the yoke pulling out when tightening them too much. The problem was that they tension broke the internal posts that hold the nuts that the clamps screw into; if it hasn't happened to you yet consider yourself lucky. This is a bit of a design flaw IMO, but is incredibly easy to repair, or as a bit of prevention to make sure that it never happens to you.
There is a very simple fix that I've done on the yoke as well as the throttle quadrant. The trick is to replace the standard nuts with ¼-20 flange nuts, a pair of which will set you back maybe 50 cents. This redistributes the load on the internal plastic post, and with these in place you'd have to be a gorilla to break the mounts. I've done this mods for friends as well as on some broken yokes that I picked up at a thrift store for next to nothing. If your devices are out of warranty it might be worth doing.
Thank you so much for posting the fix - I haven't had an issue yet so I will keep it the way it is for the moment, but I am thankful I can come back to this post to repair it if necessary.
Awesome review thank you for sharing. Quite useful. Your presentation is very nice too.
Thanks so much for that! I appreciate it. I think I still would pick this over the Honeycomb Bravo, due to the detents that you can make beta/reverse work a bit better, plus I have heard the Bravo has had some quality issues over time. The Honeycomb Alpha, is still the best value/yoke on the market.
I love and have had my CH yoke and pedals for 15 years (mid 2005) and I'm still using them with very few problems. I was using it with FS2000 when CH products had a software disc you could load to manage your CH products! I did have to replace the clamping nuts within the housing. My biggest problems are with the moveable wiring within the Pro Pedals. Those wires can only flex back and forth a million times before they break and you can't BRAKE! I replaced those 6 wires (3 for each pedal) with a better silicone wire that is also a bit thicker. That seems to be much better. So thanks for not being a "Yoke snob." I'm presently Googling and ogling the Honeycomb Bravo Throttle Quadrant.
I figure after 15 years, I'm due for a well deserved upgrade
My advice would be to DEFINITELY buy the Honeycomb products if you can - at this point I was already happy with my yoke, and if I waited, it would have been at least a year and a half to have a dual quadrant. I didn't buy the CH pedals, as I knew some of the newer designs worked better, so I lucked out there. So far I haven't had an issue with the clamps - and I like how easy/sturdy they are. I did do a spring modification to make the yoke respond better and stick in a position more which is more realistic - it was a very easy upgrade. Thanks for watching!
I appreciate the excellent (and realistic) review! Your credibility was increased by knowing about "beta" for sure . . .
I appreciate that, Ray. I have been training for my P3 on VATSIM (Commercial Multi Engine) and part of the test coming up is engine failure a few minutes after take off, then hand fly IMC to a point 20 miles out, then you are allowed to use the autopilot to do a DME arc, then back to hand flying to do an ILS landing - the dual throttle has been so instrumental in that - and works like a champ every time.
Very nice present, Kris. There's no point over-investing in hobby gear early on unless you know it'll repay itself over the long run. And just maybe your current kit will make you appreciate any future "upgrades" that little bit more :) cheers- Dean
Absolutely Dean - and lots of this stuff holds its value so you can sell it and reclaim most of your money - I got the yoke as a steal on ebay, but usually it sells for 80% of its retail price used... the quadrant I kept an eye out for and it sold for 95% of its value, so there was no point to get it used (and why my wife got it new). I have a geek video coming up that I think will impress you, a farm video, two more Disney videos, then back to music videos. I've felt more like listening to music than talking about it at the moment.
Thank you for not being an elitist. Hate when people say the Yoko is the only way to go. Its like, YES THE YOKO IS GREAT BUT ITS 1000 DOLLARS. Meanwhile the Logitech yoke is 160 dollars and still functions the same.
I will give that the Honeycomb yoke seems to combine the best of both worlds - that would be the one I would recommend to people if they can afford. Good equipment makes simming more fun, but it is a hobby and we aren't all in it as deep like some - these CH products are perfectly fine and I have enjoyed them immensely. Thanks for watching, Aaron!
I had the yoke and the rudder pedals and they were absolutely fine for my needs.
Thank you for saying this, Jim - not enough people give these lower tier products enough credit - they think you need a yoko or it isn't worth doing at all, which is wrong. I was surprised that one of the people I watch, Slant Alpha Adventures flies with one as well.
@@dixielandfarm it does the job beautifully and in the 3 to 4 years I had mine never went wrong.
Nice setup and review. Having dual controls for flying twins must be nice! I don't know how many times I've tried to adjust the mixture with the mouse and killed an engine when the mouse hiccuped.
Thanks so much - if you want a sneak peek, I already have my custom controls video up - it is in my XPLANE playlist (where I show how I custom coded controls with a Teensy). At first I didn't think I would need dual controls, just binding the two together with a single quadrant, but since getting it, I found I was wrong - having the separate levers makes things much easier/nicer. Being able to feather the props, and get into beta/reverse for other aircraft has also been really nice - I always forget is it the / or the ? to make that happen - now I just feel for the detent and I am set.
Nice review. I've had the CH Throttle Quadrant and Fighterstick for a while. The Fighterstick is pretty reasonable for flying and the shape of it means that you can put your hand on top and get fine adjustments if needed, plus it has quite a wide throw range. I was just searching for any way to add physical detents to the TQ and your video came up (flying the FF A320 or the A32NX, it would be nice to feel the throttles at FLX or TOGA, similarly with the new Aerosoft CRJ). I'm thinking of just adding some insulation tape on the gaps between the levers to mark positions. I like your labels for the switches, I do think the switches are useful on the TQ (but I tend to remember what they do, and so only use about 2 of them).
I haven't taken apart the Throttle Quadrant, but it wouldn't surprise me if there is a notch in plastic disk to make the detent - which means if you are brave you possibly could add one - but your solution is also good - a little feel of resistance by adding a friction gate on the top should do the same thing and will be reversible. Thanks so much for watching and commenting!
@@dixielandfarm Thanks for that. Interesting idea. As with your sticky labels though, the tape would be temporary and easy to undo so I might feel safer with it. I'd thought about adding resistance, but the tape was going to work more as a marker for me. There's about an inch between each lever, leaving room for some tape. That way I could look down at the TQ when moving the levers but hopefully it'll be quicker than trying to see the in-sim TQ. Thanks.
@@dixielandfarm Oh also, I think that the CH Products products are fine. Sure, you could spend thousands more on better ones. But I don't think using CH Products means that you take it less seriously, just that you work with what you can. I used to have some second-hand CH Products pedals and ended up throwing them out and getting some MFG Crosswinds. But the other peripherals are fine. The TQ axes can be a bit noisy at times but FSUIPC or a decent addon in xplane will generally remove any problem with that :)
Looks like a fun hobby nice setup.
You will enjoy my next video, then - I built an external box to manipulate things in the sim along with custom code to make it happen - real nerd stuff.
I got the yoke, TQ and pedals from CH when I used FS9/FS2004 many years ago. They worked just fine, but weren't as cheap back then as they're now. Have since been through a full cockpit setup of Saitek gear, but got rid of that two years ago when my interest in flight sims came to an end. I am however looking forward to the new sim from Microsoft, and might just get back in the game if it turns out as spectacular as it looks in the videos floating around.
FS2020 looks fantastic but I know I won't be using it - there is no way I will have the correct machine specs, fast enough internet, etc. I hope it does spawn X-Plane to continue to keep working on their product - it won't be able to compete with the visual imagery (since really that is Bing and its mapping that is causing that data to come through), but if it can compete in real world procedures and handling, I think lots of people will still keep X-Plane alive. I will be jealous of all the streamers who WILL uses FS2020, though :) I have a video coming up of a switchbox I built - its in my XPlane playlist right now if you want to watch, or you can catch it in a few weeks when I publish it for the public.
@@dixielandfarm I'm using an 8 or 9 year old computer now, so I'm gonna have to make a pretty hefty upgrade as well. I'll probably wait until the dust settles and prices for the top graphics cards come down before I take the plunge. Right now I prefer to spend my $ on records :)
@@dixielandfarm From what I have heard you will not need such a powerful pc as it will be subscription based and most of it will run from microsoft Azure cloud on their servers. We will wait and see.
That is good to know - I wonder how quick of a connection you will need - I heard you can pre-cache a bit, but still. In the end, it won't matter to me since I use Linux so I will be on the outs anyway. Luckily, with the ortho and other tweaks I have I've been pretty satisfied - so even though I won't get to join in, I will get to enjoy people's videos of it!
@@dixielandfarm yes I guess Internet speed will be key. In the UK still in areas of London there is no fibre so not sure how people will be able to play it online.
I have the yoke that you do but I ordered Honeycomb 8 months ago and it is on back order. I was wondering about this and if it is compatible with the honeycomb yoke.
Absolutely - the sim won't care at all - just like you can use a Logitech keyboard and a Microsoft mouse. In the end, the Bravo will match better with Alpha and you get that autopilot section as well, but honestly the beta/reverse I think might work better with this quadrant plus it takes up less room.
Honeycomb are definitely nice. I own honeycomb alpha and bravo and waiting for the charlie rudder pedals. I also have flight velocity panel with 1 logitech 3.5fip,1 logitech radio panel, 10in amazon tablet on my panel for flight map,rgb strips around the top and side of my panel I set to red, also just got the Logitech rudder pedals they are okay only keeping them till honeycomb brings there's out. Only need maybe 1 more logitech 3.5in fip and a logitech multi panel to complete my setup. Using a gigabyte 34in ultra wide 3440x1440 144hz 1ms monitor.
I have tried adding a second sim monitor but the frame rate drop was huge - I do have a second monitor for maps, vatsim client, etc... but not for the plane. These CH controls are good - obviously a Honeycomb is better and worth the money, but they weren't an option for me at the time, and still aren't an option for many people around the globe, so these DO work and are fine. Having said that, I always look lovingly at someone's setup who has them both :)
Hey there. I love your video. Does this throttle quadrant work ok in MSFS 2020. And if so does it set up as easily as the CH yoke did. I had no problem setting up the yoke but I would like the CH Throttle Quadrant if it will be compatible.
Thanks so much.
I really don't know since I don't have MSFS2020, but I wouldn't see why not.
@@dixielandfarm Hi there. I bought a CH Throttle Quadrant used from eBay. Hard to find them new now. Plugged it in and fired up MSFS and lo and behold it works perfectly. As a matter of fact it was all preset to a multi engine prop plane. Tried it out and it's absolutely great. Perfect size. Great functionality.
Thanks again for all your info.
@@regicox So glad to hear it. I think the xplane store still sells them, but I found one for a friend for $40 on ebay for him… like you said, perfect size and I love the detent for beta/reverse which I use in the dash 8 or the saab.
Great review!
Thanks so much! I would recommend the Honeycomb if one could afford, but these are half the price and still get the job done well. Plus, they can be found used for a steal sometimes (like mine!)
Great video, don’t kneed any more info, will now order one. Thank you
Thanks so much, Brian! Let me know how it works out for you! While the Honeycomb Bravo I'm sure is great, you will also probably be waiting some time as well - plus it seems kind of big.
Great Review, but I wanted to say that the Saitek Quadrant has these detends too, but they are kinda annyoing and you often accidentally activate them.
Ah, very good - I had read in a few places they didn't, but I guess they were wrong, or were talking about a different model. These detents are pretty obvious, though I wish there was a little more room in the beta range - you have to be very small to play with beta vs. reverse.
I have been using CH products since 1998 (Gameport Fighterstick Pro Throttle and Pro Pedals) I upgraded to USB in 2002.
The only problems with CH gear is they are a really old design no dual throttle and the software has been practically abandoned. (It is a real PINTA to get Control Manager to work in windows 10)
CH products as a company itself is now part of some Global Conglomerate and have pretty much stopped supporting the gear they currently still sell. They stopped selling spare parts back in 2010. so if something breaks your typically buying a new unit.
I currently have 2 hotas sets of the CH fighterstick Pro Throttle and Pro Pedals. I also have the Yoke and the Throttle Quadrant.
They are really good gear specially the throttle quadrant and Yokes. However I'm looking to upgrade my Hotas to Virpil Gear.
So if your looking for the best entry level Yoke Throttle Quadrant and rudder pedals CH is the way to Go. If you want to toss in a Hotas I would recommend CH as well.
However if you are going for a HOTAS set up only I would skip over CH at the entry level unless your already invested in CH gear. I would recommend a Good mid grade Warthog wanta be dual throttle Hotas system between logitech/saitek gear and the TM Warthog. If you want top end gear I would look at Winwing, VKB, and Virpil ..... Good luck getting Virpil gear.
Thank you for your insights! Since I run Linux, any of that software doesn't apply to me, and as a device it just shows up and is supported. I would get a Honeycomb if I was to do it all over again, however I really do like the clamping system - sturdy and easy. Removing the yoke from the desk is pretty trivial and with the spring mod I did, I find the yoke has just the right amount of slop that a real one would probably have.
@@dixielandfarm You only need the control manager software for Layered functionality on the Fighter Stick, Pro Throttle, and Eclipse Yoke as they are the only ones that have that function. You would also need it for Shift Functionality, Keyboard bindings, and Macro Bindings but those are now handled by the Sim and in some cases 3rd party software (Vjoy).
For replacement parts check Digikey. I was surprised to see many of the components for CH controllers available on their site. I've also salvaged many a broken mount on the yokes and throttle quadrants by replacing the standard internal nuts with flange nuts in order to strengthen this portion of the devices. I've found broken yokes and bought them for $2-3, replaced the nuts with 50 cents worth of flange nuts and resold them for $75-100 - almost all profit. Well worth 15 minutes of my time for the repair.
Looks like fun.
It sure is, Richard. Like being a kid again!
can it be used on playstation?
I'm going to assume no.
I have 1 of the Throttle quadrant for sale. Really liked it, but don't use it much anymore.
Thanks for watching!
Hey Philip. Is your Throttle Quadrant still for sale ?
@@regicox yes still have it for sale, email shbseed@gmail.com
@@shbseed hi again Phil. I sent you an email. Hope you got it ok. If not let me know here. Otherwise you can respond to my email address. Thanks you !
I bought a yoke, pedals and a throttle quadrant for 14 dollars at the thrift shop.
Now THAT'S a deal!
Sure.. it is plastic... and not metal.... but it is only just over $100... It is a much more cost effective product for the price. it does the job... right?
Sure...I would love an expensive (Insert elitist snobby turntable here)... but my LP60 does the job good enough for me and was less than $100. With the old... damaged and beat-up records I spin... I want a turntable that has a cheap and easy to replace stylus... for me this is the best turntable.
That's the thing people on the internet don't realize - not everybody is into hobbies the same depth - I am more than satisfied with my "light" audiophile setup that people will come out of the woodwork to tell me is no good. Someone berated me on a super old video that I showed how I used placemats as record dividers because, well, it was too cheap of a solution that worked.