I remember when the Game Grumps played this game, Dan completely forgot about ducking, so he had to learn hope to counter any attack that would require a duck to dodge. Just goes to show the strength of a game's mechanics when omitting one of them doesn't render the game unwinnable.
My first series with the Game Grumps and still one of my favorites! It does help it was on one of my favorite games of all time. Never underestimate the Grumps’ ability to cheese a harder way instead of the intended method haha Thanks for checking this one out, MattheJ1!
Hahaha, oh man, I forgot how bad my video quality was back in 2009... when I was still recording with VHS with lossy codecs. Good job on giving this a shot! If Macho is possible, it would require several frame perfect move cancels to remove the spin punches, but I couldn't humanly accomplish this consistently back then. I should give it a shot these days, since I've gotten much, much better at Punch Out games since then.
Also, the old speedrunning community for this game collectively attempted this (thanks for the shoutouts to some of those videos)! If I recall correctly, every single opponent is possible in Title Defense except for TD Soda, and TD Macho. TD Tiger and TD Aran are possible, but will give you a run for your money, and TD Hippo is only possible through a decision win. Donkey Kong is also possible iirc.
Hey! Great to hear from you here - your videos were such a helpful resource here. I’d love to attempt TD in the future, so it’s interesting to hear your take on those fights. Thanks for the information. I really appreciate you checking this one out!
@@skipthetutorial No problem! It's been so long since I thought about this challenge that I almost forgot I uploaded these, haha. I'm going to try revisiting the "impossible" fights and see if anything new can be utilized. The community knows so much more about the game than we did in 2009 that it's probably worth another look.
@@zallard1 Oh man, I remember trying to find strategies for those fights back in the day. As I recall, TD Soda felt almost possible but would have required at least 2 TKO recoveries with the strategy I was using, which is a pretty demoralizing amount of RNG to have to deal with. I also ran into problems because of his tendency to respond with an uppercut after you get up during Phase 3, so that would have required either a perfectly timed punch to cancel the uppercut or wearing headgear to tank it--and that was just what it took to get started on Phase 3! Needless to say, I never was able to pull it off.
I like how in punch out you’re frail and small. You have to play super defensively, baiting and punishing everything you can to carefully get jabs in to build up damage before landing some star attacks. And then in smash bros you just throw out your smash attacks a billion times and super armor through everything.
I would say Mac is still very bait and punish-oriented in Smash Bros. as his smash attacks can be punished easier than most people think, but that's what is cool about Smash Bros.- characters can be played however the player wants to play them, giving the possibility of a more aggressive approach to Mac's neutral game (which requires practically all reads to be perfect and is thus not as simple as armoring through every single attack).
@@magikarpwillsurvive2695 his poor recovery also means he can be punished more. That's what draws me to him the most, that I have to play more defensively and random bursts of aggression. Doesn't hurt that Punch Out is probably my favourite NES game either
@@crinsombone5380 exactly. little mac plays much more similarly to the source material than you might expect. he has a powerful ground game, with fast speed and high damage. however, his air attacks and recovery are pathetic. as a result, you are punished hard for failing, and need to bait and punish the opponent, landing that one winning hit if possible, just like in a punch out game
@@skipthetutorial anytime! I know you and other challenge runners usually credit Speedrunners who do the research, I just wanted to make sure people check out Zallard1 because he's insanely talented.
Zebo12345 he also beat the nes and the snes at the same time with one controller as well as did motion controls at a gdq and landed frame perfect imputes
Funnily enough, beating Sandman without Blocking or Dodging is one of the Challenges in Exhibition mode. I remember being so proud of myself after a few attempts of it. I had already learned his pattern and timings on my own in the main game, and doing it there with the limitation was such a satisfying moment. (The Exhibition mode where you fight the guy, not the Hologram)
Oh geez - I want a rocky and Punch Out crossover more than I want to eat tomorrow. I think that would be a blast! Thanks for checking this one out, Shadders!
You’ve got this! I’ll be rooting for you from the corner. Just take some of these counter punch techniques, watching for when they turn red to dodge (not perfect, but can help a lot) and then you’ll be taking them all down, no time. Good luck, TBL!
"No dodging" doesn't sound impressive enough. From the title I thought this still permitted blocking. "Can you beat Punch-Out without defending?" or "Can you beat Punch-Out by punching only?" would be better titles.
@Gabriel Mota Interestingly, human brains have naturally a hard time understanding what NO or NOT aka all the negate words really means. So humans will be more attracted to PUNCH ONLY instead of NO DODGING(DEFENCE) albeit these two meaning the same thing in this context.
I can't believe we got stopped in, of all places, from engaging the bogus. In all seriousness though, this video is quite the astounding feat and bit of knowledge. I myself am making a game in the vein of punchout, and it's always helpful to study every possible way this game can be played (and there is a surprising amount considering how little is presented to you). Great work man!
Thanks for checking it out, lucario! I'm glad you enjoyed it. The run was a lot of fun to do - Punch Out is definitely one of my top favorite Wii games.
Oooh, Zallard! He did a run of Punch Out and Super Punch out at a GDQ recently. Both games at the same time. It was pretty nuts, and this seems like the sort of challenge that would be right up his alley. Glad to see he had a video that helped you.
The contender sandman fight actually has a specific rhythm of punches you can do that if you time correctly interrupts every single punch. Just uppercut every second or so without stoping and you interrupt all his punches, except the dreamland express
I would love that so much. I think it came to the Wii because of the motion controls, but seeing a more traditional outing on Switch would be great. Thanks for checking this one out, Fantum!
I love the fact that you used the headgear, unlocked after losing 100 matches, and on glass Joe's title defense, he has it because little mac was his 100th loss
This was exceptionally entertaining. I know you've based your channels on game analysis, but I'd love to see more challenge run summaries like this sometime too!
You know, I think it's possible (albeit extremely difficult) to beat Sandman with out dodging AND without taking damage. Every move he throws at you can be countered, which is insane! And his Dreamland Express can be countered for an instant knockdown with a star punch. Another tactic you might not know is that when he starts his Dreamland Express (meaning dropping his fists), if you want a better chance at landing the star punch, throw a regular jab immediately when he starts it, then immediately go for the star punch. He will dodge the jab and immediately go into the uppercuts, but your star punch will hit him first! If you have 3 stars when you land it, it's an instant knockout!
Doesn't Super Macho Man have a trick where you can keep hitting him when he is in his getting hit animation? You can star him and then keep hitting him just before he comes back from getting hit and you can keep going until he dies. I think you have to alternate punches like left right left right. I have not played the game in a long time but I do remember something similar to that with Super Macho Man. Maybe give it a try.
I thought about that, but I was under the impression that the Star Punch animation cooldown would remove that opportunity - but that might be research bias on my part. I’ll give it a shot - thanks for the recommendation, Gilberto!
Good point! I had only seen it referred to as no dodging in earlier attempts - so that’s where I got the titling. Thanks for checking this one out, Logan!
That’d be a fun one to mess around with, having to get rid of items before they break and react on the fly. I’ll add that to the research list. Thanks, Booman!
Does bombs count as breaking if they explode? Cause if it does that would make it considerably harder and challenging, not to mention get rid of the easy way out of the challenge
Interestingly enough, I picked up Punch Out Wii again for the first time in years last month and can definitely attest to the awesome design at work The game is easy (?) enough when you're dodging, but playing specifically intending to counter EVERYTHING, it's an incredibly tough but rewarding experience. Great run here; sorry about Super Macho Man though. I really hope if Punch Out comes to switch, we'll see a no dodge run be possible. :)
I'm waiting for the sequeal where you fight even more retro Punch Out fighters from the past like Dragon Chan, Piston Hurricane, Pizza Pasta, Mad Clown, the old Chinese Kung Fu master with a cane, and even arm wrestlers like Texas Mac and Frankenstien's Monster
decisions aren't rigged against the player here like in the NES game. this is actually fairly easy- you just have to have more knockdowns than the opponent after three rounds, in the case of a tie it goes to highest remaining health.
While I admit this might be an easy challenge, I think it would be funny to show on record you made it to Mr. Sandman or even DK without having a single K.O on record
Read the title and said "Oh hey I tried to do this once a long time ago". Imagine my surprise when I see my video briefly referenced lol. Thanks for the shoutout!
@@Jbg802 You can still beat TD Bald Bull by decision, even if you never actually knock him down. The one who would actually be a roadblock would be TD Glass Joe, since he wears headgear that makes him immune to jabs unless you nail him with a star punch first. Of course, you'd never get any stars in the first place, since all your jabs would bounce off his headgear, and even if you could get stars, you wouldn't be allowed to use them, since star punches aren't jabs.
nice vid, I love punch out and this was quite interesting I knew that most of em were gonna be possible to beat, but I seriously doubted soda popinski and macho man good stuff dude
So, if I remember correctly, Super Macho Man deals 50% of your health per hit with the clothesline. None of the hits can be countered or dodged, so each clothesline is a guaranteed down
My initial guess is no, he has so many moves that cover ranges that need to be dodged. Plus, he hits like crazy - so there’s not much of a chance for a decision, I don’t think. I’d love to research that, as well as just the Title Defense fights. Thanks, TGS!
I would love to try that! I'm more familiar with the tricks of the trade in this one, but I'll add it to the challenge list. Thanks for checking this one out, TFB98!
Hey Matt! I’ve got a list building up with more and more challenges, so I’m looking forward to diving into those in the future. For one, if there’s interest for it, I’d love to do Title Defense with these same rules. Thanks for checking this one out!
still a missed opportunity that they never put the best video game boxer in arms. i mean come on, glass joe deserves it. little mac on the other hand is a cripple suddenly, wazzap with that? i love punch out, this video was super enjoyable
@@skipthetutorial and in TD they mostly dodge your star punches unless timed crazy well (or if ya dodged, which ya can't) so the hard factor is like +10
I wanna know if you can beat Kirby Planet Robobot without eating anything (no food or enemies or anything like that) and still get enough code cubes to reach the bosses and final boss. (Not scanning enemies as robobot is a bonus, but I think there's some parts that require you to transform. Not sure, though)
I can't even imagine doing all of this. Punch-Out Wii is no freaking joke to even beat vanilla. Especially the Title Defense mode. I couldn't have been more thankful that I just happened to get Donkey Kong within one of my first four matches in Mac's Last Stand. I jumped into the mode without realizing it was a one and done deal. If I had to do everything all over again, I would have rioted.
I kinda think it might help if you had a more...casual sounding tone for these more casual videos (anything that isn’t an analysis in some way)? Maybe I’m just too used to hearing your voice in more informative videos lol.
I’ve been thinking about that same thing. Naturally, I’m a real fast and energetic talker - but people have been digging the slower cadence lately. That’s completely fine, I think it works better to listen to, especially for the analysis content, but for these challenges and OP-EDs, I would like to work more on talking more emotively. It’s on the top of my 2019 things to work on! Thanks for bringing this up, Nicktendo!
For anyone asking about TD, as far as I can remember only hippo and macho can't be done. Dk is doable, which makes 24/27 fights in the game winnable under this ruleset
Sandman, if you punch 3 times a second with just a regular punch (not an uppercut), he becomes one of the easiest fights in the game. Almost all his attacks get cancelled and you can get quite a lot of hits in. However, it may not work, because of the heart meter draining too fast, and his Dreamland Express and night night will occasionally still manage to come out.
the title is a bit confusing but he explains at the beginning that no defensive maneuvers period were allowed, except for the occasional star punch dodge which only happens with specific attacks anyways, none of which would be on Super Macho Man
The run historically has been called “no dodge” in other attempts, but I didn’t see the point of blocking or ducking since dodging is really the main required defense, so might as well cut out all forms. Thanks for checking this one out!
Taking inside-the-box thinking to the next level, I love it. x]
There’s nothing better than limiting the toolbox!
Thanks for checking this one out, GC! Great to hear from you
Gamechamp3000 ayy Gamechamp
Woah everyone is here, skip the tutorial and gamechamp
Both your Chanel’s are great, also skip the tutorial is completely underrated.
Gamechamp3000 Can you beat Crash Bandicoot Nsane Trilogy without spinning?
The D-Pad cannot be forgotten.
Never ever. It's a staple! haha - thanks DPad for checking this one out
The d pad is more important then the a button
@@hammerman3498 yeah
@@hammerman3498 not in this game apparently
Hi D-Pad Gamer!
I remember when the Game Grumps played this game, Dan completely forgot about ducking, so he had to learn hope to counter any attack that would require a duck to dodge. Just goes to show the strength of a game's mechanics when omitting one of them doesn't render the game unwinnable.
My first series with the Game Grumps and still one of my favorites! It does help it was on one of my favorite games of all time.
Never underestimate the Grumps’ ability to cheese a harder way instead of the intended method haha
Thanks for checking this one out, MattheJ1!
@@skipthetutorial too bad Dan never did Title Defense the whole way
Like another game this studio made: Luigi’s Mansion Dark Moon. You can play the whole game without knowing you can dodge
@@Stratilex you can dodge in that game???
@@tapatorta yeah when you're sucking a ghost press B and luigi will jump somewhere else
I can't wait for the nightmareish no dodge title defense mode.
Was just about to ask did you try any?
I'd prefer the brick wall that is a Faith build DS3 run, thanks.
Also it’s a speed run
Some are actually easier in title defense doing this
@@Sonic62920 definitely
Also known as 'The Gohan Run'.
GOHAN DODGE!
DOOOOOOOOOODGE!!!!!!
Gohan. WHY DIDN'T YOU DOOOOOOOOOOOOODGE?!
DOOOOOOOOODGE
...oh
i thought this was a reference to a swedish racist
my bad
Hahaha, oh man, I forgot how bad my video quality was back in 2009... when I was still recording with VHS with lossy codecs. Good job on giving this a shot! If Macho is possible, it would require several frame perfect move cancels to remove the spin punches, but I couldn't humanly accomplish this consistently back then. I should give it a shot these days, since I've gotten much, much better at Punch Out games since then.
Also, the old speedrunning community for this game collectively attempted this (thanks for the shoutouts to some of those videos)! If I recall correctly, every single opponent is possible in Title Defense except for TD Soda, and TD Macho. TD Tiger and TD Aran are possible, but will give you a run for your money, and TD Hippo is only possible through a decision win. Donkey Kong is also possible iirc.
Hey! Great to hear from you here - your videos were such a helpful resource here.
I’d love to attempt TD in the future, so it’s interesting to hear your take on those fights. Thanks for the information.
I really appreciate you checking this one out!
@@skipthetutorial No problem! It's been so long since I thought about this challenge that I almost forgot I uploaded these, haha. I'm going to try revisiting the "impossible" fights and see if anything new can be utilized. The community knows so much more about the game than we did in 2009 that it's probably worth another look.
@@zallard1 Oh man, I remember trying to find strategies for those fights back in the day. As I recall, TD Soda felt almost possible but would have required at least 2 TKO recoveries with the strategy I was using, which is a pretty demoralizing amount of RNG to have to deal with. I also ran into problems because of his tendency to respond with an uppercut after you get up during Phase 3, so that would have required either a perfectly timed punch to cancel the uppercut or wearing headgear to tank it--and that was just what it took to get started on Phase 3! Needless to say, I never was able to pull it off.
Macho Man knocked him out before he could finish
Okay, but can you beat it without collecting a single coin?
Still haven’t found a way to do it - I’ll keep researching that run! Haha
Thanks for checking this one out KK
Unfortunately sponsorships are the way of the World Video Boxing Association, so I doubt it is possible.
*Hey guys, Nico here and today*
there arent any coins...
@@матвеймасалов-г3е r/woooosh
I like how in punch out you’re frail and small. You have to play super defensively, baiting and punishing everything you can to carefully get jabs in to build up damage before landing some star attacks.
And then in smash bros you just throw out your smash attacks a billion times and super armor through everything.
I'm a Little Mac main, and I still play defensively as him. Of course I play defensively as everyone
@@crinsombone5380 yeah you better say that lol but as a simon main i feel your pain bro we might have good characters but are recovery is mega oof
I would say Mac is still very bait and punish-oriented in Smash Bros. as his smash attacks can be punished easier than most people think, but that's what is cool about Smash Bros.- characters can be played however the player wants to play them, giving the possibility of a more aggressive approach to Mac's neutral game (which requires practically all reads to be perfect and is thus not as simple as armoring through every single attack).
@@magikarpwillsurvive2695 his poor recovery also means he can be punished more. That's what draws me to him the most, that I have to play more defensively and random bursts of aggression. Doesn't hurt that Punch Out is probably my favourite NES game either
@@crinsombone5380 exactly. little mac plays much more similarly to the source material than you might expect. he has a powerful ground game, with fast speed and high damage. however, his air attacks and recovery are pathetic. as a result, you are punished hard for failing, and need to bait and punish the opponent, landing that one winning hit if possible, just like in a punch out game
Zallard1 is the world record holder for all the punchout games, I think it's a little weak to just call him "UA-cam user"
Thanks for bringing this up, good to know! His attempts were very helpful for researching this run.
I appreciate you checking this one out, John
@@skipthetutorial anytime! I know you and other challenge runners usually credit Speedrunners who do the research, I just wanted to make sure people check out Zallard1 because he's insanely talented.
@@skipthetutorial Zallard1 beat Super Punch Out!! for the SNES _BLINDFOLDED_ at an AGDQ event. Zallard is the absolute king of Punch Out.
Zebo12345 he also beat the nes and the snes at the same time with one controller as well as did motion controls at a gdq and landed frame perfect imputes
@@chuckles3116 Indeed! He's a legend for sure.
The reason Super Macho Man has a head full of hot air is that he knows how many dodgeless attempts failed on him.
I’m
TPLT he released the bogus too much
Funnily enough, beating Sandman without Blocking or Dodging is one of the Challenges in Exhibition mode. I remember being so proud of myself after a few attempts of it. I had already learned his pattern and timings on my own in the main game, and doing it there with the limitation was such a satisfying moment. (The Exhibition mode where you fight the guy, not the Hologram)
You just block their punches with your face. Also known as the Rocky Balboa Technique.
Oh geez - I want a rocky and Punch Out crossover more than I want to eat tomorrow. I think that would be a blast!
Thanks for checking this one out, Shadders!
Rocky would still kick all our butts anyday of the week except sunday
I know it more as the wimp-lo tactic.
Doing this challenge crashes paper mario.
Stryder, eh?
But only in parallel universes
I was just about to comment this lol
Paper mario is my favorite punch out game
Releasing the bogus crashes paper mario.
Breath of the wild without breathing?
Cooking mama without cooking?
Comment something without it being unoriginal?
Destiny without following your Destiny?
Fortune Street with absolutely no fortune at all?
Csgo with out shooting
But title defence.
*DO IT I DARE YOU*
100% possible and done. All boxers
Oof. I still haven’t beaten those last few battles WITH dodging
You’ve got this! I’ll be rooting for you from the corner. Just take some of these counter punch techniques, watching for when they turn red to dodge (not perfect, but can help a lot) and then you’ll be taking them all down, no time.
Good luck, TBL!
Bald freaking bull
It's been 5 years have you beaten them yet?
@@Smashburrogames Actually I haven’t. I kinda forgot about it. Maybe I should boot up my Wii U again and take care of that. Thanks for the reminder.
"No dodging" doesn't sound impressive enough. From the title I thought this still permitted blocking. "Can you beat Punch-Out without defending?" or "Can you beat Punch-Out by punching only?" would be better titles.
@Gabriel Mota "Punch-Out no defense challenge"
@Gabriel Mota
Interestingly, human brains have naturally a hard time understanding what NO or NOT aka all the negate words really means.
So humans will be more attracted to PUNCH ONLY instead of NO DODGING(DEFENCE) albeit these two meaning the same thing in this context.
Oh shut up nitpicker
I feel like no "defending" doesnt fit cause it feels like you can dodge just not block
Paul Webb yeah I agree
I can't believe we got stopped in, of all places, from engaging the bogus.
In all seriousness though, this video is quite the astounding feat and bit of knowledge. I myself am making a game in the vein of punchout, and it's always helpful to study every possible way this game can be played (and there is a surprising amount considering how little is presented to you). Great work man!
Hey Chaoko! Best of luck with your game - I’m always excited to see more Punch Out inspiration in the gaming scene.
Thanks for checking this one out!
Great video my dude : )
Woah! Thanks for checking it out, Alax! Great to hear from you here
This was a insane run and creative idea
Well done
Thanks for checking it out, lucario! I'm glad you enjoyed it.
The run was a lot of fun to do - Punch Out is definitely one of my top favorite Wii games.
Ah, pre Minecraft skip the tutorial.
I miss when he was like this
@@Pillot154Me too
*insert some kind of pun including punch-out and dodging here because i am too lazy to think of one right now*
That was my logic while writing the script too, haha!
Thanks for checking this one out, dededelete!
@@skipthetutorial a video of yours that puts a unique spin on a familiar concept? How could i miss something like that?
I guess he couldn't PUNch that Wahn out. I guess they never miss, HAH?
Bb
Oooh, Zallard! He did a run of Punch Out and Super Punch out at a GDQ recently. Both games at the same time. It was pretty nuts, and this seems like the sort of challenge that would be right up his alley. Glad to see he had a video that helped you.
you forgot donkey kong! can he be beaten dodgless? even if we cant beat the most macho of men, can we beat the manliest of monkeys?!?
You forgot the fact that he didn't beat half the game.
@@whiz8569 just because he didnt mention the fights that arent difficult doesnt mean he didnt do them
@Pyxlup Goheen I don't think little mac has the dong good enough to expand
magna torra I think whiz was talking about the title defense
@@magnatorra5325 he didnt do title defense, wich is twice as hard.
It's annoying that this video has fewer views than his Minecraft videos.
Ya :/
The contender sandman fight actually has a specific rhythm of punches you can do that if you time correctly interrupts every single punch. Just uppercut every second or so without stoping and you interrupt all his punches, except the dreamland express
Kinda miss when his content was a variety of content, y'know?
I miss when his name skip the tutorial had meaning
This needs to be a switch game!
I would love that so much. I think it came to the Wii because of the motion controls, but seeing a more traditional outing on Switch would be great.
Thanks for checking this one out, Fantum!
Skip the Tutorial Switch likes to use motion controls a little bit
Who knows maybe we could get another Punch out
You mean ARMS?
As much as i would love a new punch out.... Just remember the "Racist Game & Watch" cries. Punch out would be destroyed by the snowflakes.
That would be amazing!
Skip the tutorial: Is it possible to beat Punch Out without dodging?
Speedruners: What is… dodging?
I love the fact that you used the headgear, unlocked after losing 100 matches, and on glass Joe's title defense, he has it because little mac was his 100th loss
That's a nice attention to detail.
@@DynoSkrimisher ikr
This was exceptionally entertaining. I know you've based your channels on game analysis, but I'd love to see more challenge run summaries like this sometime too!
Back when skip the tutorial didn't play minecraft
Is it able to beat Punch Out without falling of the stage because of Little Mac's awful recovery?
I’m sorry, but
*off
Also no, it’s impossible.
Im naming one of my children Soda Popinski.
yeah name your child vodka drunkeski his original name
I want to see a picture of his birth certificate as proof.
Name your child vodka drunkenski and then later rename him to soda popinski
Frustration Density = AGhghghgg / Time
Weird. I didn't learn this one in AP Physics.
Must be a new one in the curriculum, since the frustration density was crazy high in my class haha
Thanks for checking this one out, Caleb!
@@skipthetutorial Haha, always a pleasure! Don't burn yourself out on too many of these impossible runs! ;-)
The punch out potato run is officially mission com-
RELEASE THE *_B O G U S_*
You know, I think it's possible (albeit extremely difficult) to beat Sandman with out dodging AND without taking damage. Every move he throws at you can be countered, which is insane! And his Dreamland Express can be countered for an instant knockdown with a star punch. Another tactic you might not know is that when he starts his Dreamland Express (meaning dropping his fists), if you want a better chance at landing the star punch, throw a regular jab immediately when he starts it, then immediately go for the star punch. He will dodge the jab and immediately go into the uppercuts, but your star punch will hit him first! If you have 3 stars when you land it, it's an instant knockout!
I never played punchout on the Wii but I definitely want to play after this video! 😁
I heavily recommend it - one of my favorite Wii games of all time. I hope you like it!
Thanks for checking this one out, MC!
medicom Collector but how DO you play it on the wii though? I don't know but I wish I do.....
@@Somerandomperson-hl1kt just buy it
First vid I ever saw from Skip, I miss this sorta calming conversation
Remember the good ol' days when StT was like this?
When he'd actually skip the tutorial?
Me too kid, me too.
Doesn't Super Macho Man have a trick where you can keep hitting him when he is in his getting hit animation? You can star him and then keep hitting him just before he comes back from getting hit and you can keep going until he dies. I think you have to alternate punches like left right left right. I have not played the game in a long time but I do remember something similar to that with Super Macho Man. Maybe give it a try.
I thought about that, but I was under the impression that the Star Punch animation cooldown would remove that opportunity - but that might be research bias on my part. I’ll give it a shot - thanks for the recommendation, Gilberto!
@@skipthetutorial I believe the infinite counter punch on Macho Man is only available if you perfectly dodge his 3 Super Macho Man Spin attack
I mean, you could call this a no defense run
Good point! I had only seen it referred to as no dodging in earlier attempts - so that’s where I got the titling.
Thanks for checking this one out, Logan!
@@skipthetutorial it's a no D run
or a "don't want the D" run
Glad to see the great Zallard1 makes an appearance
Hey is it possible to beat breath of the wild without breaking any weapons/bows/shields?
That’d be a fun one to mess around with, having to get rid of items before they break and react on the fly. I’ll add that to the research list.
Thanks, Booman!
Bombs? A box you carried with you to the end? Um....
Dracibatic what?
Does bombs count as breaking if they explode? Cause if it does that would make it considerably harder and challenging, not to mention get rid of the easy way out of the challenge
Ajmain Rahman well to fight the final boss. Carry a box or use bombs. Thats all i can think of. You could use urbosa i guess
Interestingly enough, I picked up Punch Out Wii again for the first time in years last month and can definitely attest to the awesome design at work The game is easy (?) enough when you're dodging, but playing specifically intending to counter EVERYTHING, it's an incredibly tough but rewarding experience.
Great run here; sorry about Super Macho Man though. I really hope if Punch Out comes to switch, we'll see a no dodge run be possible. :)
So sandman is the most difficult fight... wait a second
( bogus is heard from a distance)
*YOU FORGOT DONKEY KONG*
He's too weak to fight our lord of the supreme dong.
You mean he forgot the title defense round
That's title defense
He done it in his title defense run
rawsteak he in title defense
Man, ‘Punch-Out!!!’ Would be perfect for Switch, c’mon Nintendo
Barse Crayon instead we got arms...
@@bennie8349 I like arms, but I definitely agree that we need a new punch out game
I'm waiting for the sequeal where you fight even more retro Punch Out fighters from the past like Dragon Chan, Piston Hurricane, Pizza Pasta, Mad Clown, the old Chinese Kung Fu master with a cane, and even arm wrestlers like Texas Mac and Frankenstien's Monster
I know right
@@joefrew1614 Pizza Pasta wouldn’t fly well nowadays...
But how many a presses?
Only 1/4th - I just blow lightly on the button from a safe distance haha
Thanks for checking this one out, DirtyDan!
wow. even though you lost to super macho man...you are still champ in my book.
Okay, but can you beat the entire game by winning...BY DECISION?
Michael Kennedy I actually like this one, that’d be an AWESOME challenge
decisions aren't rigged against the player here like in the NES game. this is actually fairly easy- you just have to have more knockdowns than the opponent after three rounds, in the case of a tie it goes to highest remaining health.
Jack Wedge Yeah, but the playstyle becomes survival rather than going hard for the TKOs
While I admit this might be an easy challenge, I think it would be funny to show on record you made it to Mr. Sandman or even DK without having a single K.O on record
He did it mate
I loved the parts where you told your personal experience with the different fights, it felt like listening to an old guy tell war stories
Oh now this is a nice spin on the cliche
Glad you think so, Masahiro! Thanks for checking this one out so early - good to hear from you
btw zallard1 is one of the top punch out(all 3) speedrunner
What's the minimum amount of times you need to jump/hover in Kirby Super Star Ultra to beat all subgames?
I was actually going to comment if you asked zallard for help lol
Great! Now try Title Defence!
I see, his traumatizing background has been forgotten and been put into Smash. Happy days for him i guess
Can you beat punch out without punching
little mac eventually learns to punch with his mind
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Aight I guess that makes since
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Read the title and said "Oh hey I tried to do this once a long time ago". Imagine my surprise when I see my video briefly referenced lol. Thanks for the shoutout!
Matt from wii boxing is harder than everyone in punch out
Commander Derpling yea. True...
It really felt like watching a movie thanks to your top notch commentaries
Is it possible to beat punch out for the wii by only using jabs?
I’m sure that’s worth investigating! I’ll look into it.
Thanks, THI!
I'm sure it is, it's probably really time consuming though, Like trying to fight Jason with rocks in Froday the 13th for the NES
No because bald bull td needs to be took down by a star punch
@@Jbg802 You can still beat TD Bald Bull by decision, even if you never actually knock him down.
The one who would actually be a roadblock would be TD Glass Joe, since he wears headgear that makes him immune to jabs unless you nail him with a star punch first. Of course, you'd never get any stars in the first place, since all your jabs would bounce off his headgear, and even if you could get stars, you wouldn't be allowed to use them, since star punches aren't jabs.
@@MrL1193 can't you punch him in the stomach
nice vid, I love punch out and this was quite interesting
I knew that most of em were gonna be possible to beat, but I seriously doubted soda popinski and macho man
good stuff dude
Now do it without punching
CloudySkies17695 how?
Thot Slayer ah. Okay....
Can you imagine how hyped up Mac would be in universe?
Mr.sandman has a challenge to not dodge
So, if I remember correctly, Super Macho Man deals 50% of your health per hit with the clothesline. None of the hits can be countered or dodged, so each clothesline is a guaranteed down
Can you beat punch out without punching?
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Come on, you missed the PERFECT opportunity to use the Metallica "Enter Sandman" instrumental! It would’ve been perfect!
What are your thoughts on the DK dodgeless fight? Is that possible?
My initial guess is no, he has so many moves that cover ranges that need to be dodged. Plus, he hits like crazy - so there’s not much of a chance for a decision, I don’t think. I’d love to research that, as well as just the Title Defense fights.
Thanks, TGS!
I was hoping someone would try this without uppercuts/stars instead, but this is a pretty crazy sounding challenge too. Good work!
Oooh I love Punch-Out. Would it be possible to try this out for the NES/SNES versions or are they too different for this to work?
I would love to try that! I'm more familiar with the tricks of the trade in this one, but I'll add it to the challenge list.
Thanks for checking this one out, TFB98!
Surprising that this is almost a year old now, I swear I've watched this at least 100 times now!
I'm sure you'll get it next time, champ. Do you have any ideas of what you may try next?
Hey Matt! I’ve got a list building up with more and more challenges, so I’m looking forward to diving into those in the future.
For one, if there’s interest for it, I’d love to do Title Defense with these same rules.
Thanks for checking this one out!
Soda Popinski having an extremely specific route that makes the fight just barely beatable makes me wonder if it was intentionally designed like that
Port Punch Out Wii to Nintendo Switch, Nintendo.
Nintendonian777 Punch out 2020?
9:21 zallard1?! He is one of the best punch out speed runners there is!
You thought this was hard? Get ready for No Dodge Doc Louis.
still a missed opportunity that they never put the best video game boxer in arms. i mean come on, glass joe deserves it. little mac on the other hand is a cripple suddenly, wazzap with that?
i love punch out, this video was super enjoyable
Can you beat Punch Out!! Wii-thout dodging....
r/missedopportunity
R/fellowredditors
Guess WII could say he beat punch out wii WII-thought punching.
So at first I was gonna mention that you skipped title defense and just did the contender circuit, but macho man shut me up real quick
I’d love to do TD if there’s any interest - maybe there’s more luck over there? Haha
Thanks for checking this one out Mc Nintentwins!
@@skipthetutorial I'd certainly be interested! Especially curious about Von Kaiser, as his TD battle has an instakill move in it
@@skipthetutorial and in TD they mostly dodge your star punches unless timed crazy well (or if ya dodged, which ya can't) so the hard factor is like +10
That final punch was clean AF on sandman
I wanna know if you can beat Kirby Planet Robobot without eating anything (no food or enemies or anything like that) and still get enough code cubes to reach the bosses and final boss. (Not scanning enemies as robobot is a bonus, but I think there's some parts that require you to transform. Not sure, though)
I'll add that to the challenge research list - thanks for the suggestion, Fedora!
Good to hear from you here
I think there is parts you're force to scan with robobot sections.
Mainly the Jet sections
Though it is a good idea.
Yeah, that's what I was thinking of. Anyway, bonus gone, or don't count those parts, cuz werd level is weird.
"It feels like you're just mamaging some perfectly coreographed dance routine to the second"
Ah yes, welcome to how speedrunning games feels like
Legend has it, that by commenting something random, skip will heart this and I’ll get a lot of likes,
Here I go
Something Random
I did it
my ffet
Omg poor little Mac he just has to stand there and tank all those blows
Punch Out for Nintendo Switch
Señor Fluffy make it happen
I can't even imagine doing all of this. Punch-Out Wii is no freaking joke to even beat vanilla. Especially the Title Defense mode. I couldn't have been more thankful that I just happened to get Donkey Kong within one of my first four matches in Mac's Last Stand. I jumped into the mode without realizing it was a one and done deal. If I had to do everything all over again, I would have rioted.
Can you beat Crash Bandicoot Nsane Trilogy without spinning?
there are platforms that are only usable once you spin at them, so unfortunately it is not possible.
Nope.
Nightfox WOAH
It was a suggestion. Geez.
Ye Ik
Zalerd 1 is one of the best punch out speedrunners of all time he speedrunns mike tysons puch out super puch out puchout wii anything punchout
I kinda think it might help if you had a more...casual sounding tone for these more casual videos (anything that isn’t an analysis in some way)? Maybe I’m just too used to hearing your voice in more informative videos lol.
I’ve been thinking about that same thing. Naturally, I’m a real fast and energetic talker - but people have been digging the slower cadence lately. That’s completely fine, I think it works better to listen to, especially for the analysis content, but for these challenges and OP-EDs, I would like to work more on talking more emotively.
It’s on the top of my 2019 things to work on!
Thanks for bringing this up, Nicktendo!
Skip the Tutorial No problem!
For anyone asking about TD, as far as I can remember only hippo and macho can't be done. Dk is doable, which makes 24/27 fights in the game winnable under this ruleset
next video: can you beat punch out wii without punching?
Sandman, if you punch 3 times a second with just a regular punch (not an uppercut), he becomes one of the easiest fights in the game. Almost all his attacks get cancelled and you can get quite a lot of hits in. However, it may not work, because of the heart meter draining too fast, and his Dreamland Express and night night will occasionally still manage to come out.
You ain't no dodging fighter Mac
... the saddest part about that is i tried to imitate doc while saying that
3:44-3:53 *cough*NightmareKingGrimm*cough*
actually now that ive seen the whole video this is literally fighting the hardest bosses in hollow knight
Why didn't he block?
the title is a bit confusing but he explains at the beginning that no defensive maneuvers period were allowed, except for the occasional star punch dodge which only happens with specific attacks anyways, none of which would be on Super Macho Man
The run historically has been called “no dodge” in other attempts, but I didn’t see the point of blocking or ducking since dodging is really the main required defense, so might as well cut out all forms.
Thanks for checking this one out!
you did your best Lanipator would be proud