Air Handler and Duct Retrofit Part 1
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- Опубліковано 31 гру 2023
- Todays video outlines the basics for the replacement system recently removed. The backstory to the job is that the old system wasn't really that old, just a few years. It was installed as a replacement to a badly installed duct system that had no chance of functioning correctly. To compensate for delivering air to three different levels, the air handler was grossly oversized and exceptionally noisy. We are eliminating air to the second floor in air conditioning mode, because the second floor is now taken care of by an attic installation of an entire new duct system and matching heat pump. However, the ducting will still deliver warm air to the second floor during the operation of the new wood fired furnace that's part of this portion of the job. That will be accomplished by manual dampers installed in the 6" branch ducts serving all portions of the home. Wood heat mode: open 2nd floor dampers. All other modes, electric heating or a/c: 2nd floor dampers closed.
Incorporated in this portion of the job are motorized dampers in the supply air duct of both the wood fired furnace and the electric air handler. Those will be controlled appropriately by means of 24v damper actuators and relays to maintain proper postion. The wood fired dampers will fail to the open position upon power failure for safety reasons.
So today, the furnace and a short bit of duct run will be installed, the remaining portion of the system will be shown in follow up videos. There is just too much to show in one 8 or 10 minute segment. I hope you will tune in to the follow up segments as well. #airhandler, #sheetmetal, #ductwork #furnace For lead in to this video: • Air Handler and Duct Demo - Розваги
Very fun to watch your duct work videos.
Built my own house and assisted a retired man who taught me a lot about the very same content of this video. He’s no longer with us but sure brought back his memory. Our inspector complimented us for a job not done all that often, even when we built.
As an earlier comment read, I would enjoy you as a neighbor. Would help ya out often. Lol
Thanks for this video. 😎
That's really cool to have had that opportunity with the old retired guy. Some of those old guys know some short cuts AND how to make a well functioning system. As far as being a neighbor, my friend and neighbor just got a new job and relocated just last year....his house sold almost instantly, so we lost the chance of moving you on the next property. (-;
you're a master and very humble for the work you do.... They don't make them like this anymore. God bless you sir... You're a badass wish I can be like you when I get to your age...
Oh its easy to be like me. Just wait a while and you TOO will become an old balding gray haired guy with wore out tools !! (-: But the main thing is to enjoy the day for what it brings and life will be good for you. Btw, if you've not found the playlists up above yet, you may find some cool fittings in this one. The good fittings and plenum start down about 6 or 7: ua-cam.com/play/PLk72G9DTzZ1tqw8ST_xdUlPoy_O-SmuBx.html Thanks again for the cool comments.
What a multi-talented guy you are. Plus, you ability to teach and explain are exemplary. Good job!
Listening to the sound your hands make at the beginning of the video explains why you don't need to wear gloves.
"Them thar are workin' man's hands!"
Good Evening my friend. Your compliments are too kind, I'm afraid. I like to tell people I make it up as I go....which isn't too far from the truth. I don't think I could read a script anyway !! I gotta admit too that not working full time any more, my hands ARE going a little soft these days. I gauge it by the looks I get from the Missus when I lay my hand on her forearm or knee....LOL. I used to 'run' her nylons all the time years ago. Thanks for stopping in and making a grin come easy this evening !!
Enjoyed reading all the compliments from those folks that understand this type of work. I agree, you do make it look easy.
Well, surprisingly there seem to be quite a few kudos from the viewers, some new and from some older guys that have hung around a while. I appreciate all the comments though. Thanks for stopping in for a new one today.
From one old sheet metal mechanic to another great work.
When I was still in the field and had to do a basement like this,I would measure all my duct and where the top takes off needed to be cut in and do at the shop.save those knees.
When we couldn’t get louvres in i would make like you did.its a dying art.i miss working in thee field but my body gave out and now stay in the shop and run the installation side of the company.
Happy New Year and many more
Most of the two piece damper bearings are no longer available, so I had to make do with metal on metal...and I don't like it at all. If I DO find some NOS kits, I will have to go back and change these out. Yeah, it's a bit hard on the knees over time, but so far mine have held out..mostly anyway. LOL. I really enjoy a small changeout (not like this one) every now and then just to keep the dust off the machines.
I will catch Up All Your OUTSTANDING Videos Sir Cheers
Oh Dave, all of our lives are continually busy as all get out !! I DO enjoy though when you get the chance to stop in for a quick visit. You are the epitome of a person with the ultimate positive attitude !!
Wendell thanks for the sheet .etal videos. I really love seeing a MASTER AT WORK!!!
Hey Good Evening Tom !! Always a pleasure to hear from you ol' buddy. Don't give me too much credit though...I could probably only barely carry your tools !! Have a great New Year my friend.
Fantastic work. As a former hvac installer i really appreciate the tightness if your work. Its a dieing art form to do clean sheetmetal work. Loved watching!
Thank you for the complimentary comment !! If this is your first venture into my sheet metal videos, I have quite a few more. Here's a playlist. Lots of transitions, plenums and return air boxes etc: ua-cam.com/play/PLk72G9DTzZ1tqw8ST_xdUlPoy_O-SmuBx.html The first several are mainly straight duct, iirc.
Nice work with the snips Wendell 🙂👍
Thanks Zane for another visit. I hope your holiday season was relaxing !! Happy New Year my friend.
Even though my heating system doesn't use ducting Wendell, I find this video to be most informative. I'm looking forward to Part 2 now.
I've been out of 'circulation' so to speak, for the past few weeks,..darn flu got me but good this time 'round.
I've been a bit remiss in the UA-cam department too...but its because of tictok. I've had a couple vids go kinda nuts over there and have spent a lot of time recommending the viewers to come over here for longer videos. So dang, I hate to hear you've been under the weather Reg. But at least you're back in the saddle again my friend !!
@@tractorman4461 Seems like an awful lot of people around here are coming 'down' with either this Flu or that darned Covid again.
I am feeling just about back to my full 90% nowadays LOL, and so I'll be looking for your videos again.
All the very best of good health and happiness in this New Year to You and your Dear Lady. :)
@@regsparkes6507 Well hopefully the full recovery will be soon. And I'll pass your wishes on to the Missus Reg.
@@tractorman4461 Please do and thank you.
Dog gone you make that look easy. Nice work. I never hammer the tabs makes sense . Only put 3 furnaces in. Thanks for the tips. Also that 7 to 6 is good. I ran 6 off A
There's a lot more air available for the branch with a 7x6 take off for sure. The area of a 7'' circle is like 38 1/2 sq inches whereas the area of a 6'' circle is only 28 1/2 square inches. That's good because of the immediate restriction created by the actual elbow itself. I usually wait to trim and bend the drives because it gives me a little flexibility if needed to square and plumb stuff up. Not everyuone does it this way though. Thanks for stopping by today with a comment.
Nice job. I used to do some sheet metal mainly TDC on commercial jobs.
All I have to do is walk by ductwork and I start bleeding.
Thank you Ed. We always called the commercial flanged/bolted duct TDF. I think that's a different companies designation for basically the same connection technique....TDC or TDF. Iirc, one was Lockformers and the other was Engel's. But I don't know which one was the chicken and which one was the egg. (-;
Thanks for the video. I’ve been in Hvac for 25 years and first started in install. Brings back some great memories.
Your a true craftsman not many people install that style in my area anymore.
Thank you for your input. I too started for a small residential shop doing a combination of service and installation..then on to a larger shop that did more light commercial doing more tin work then on and on to bigger shops then to retirement. I'm glad to have brought back some memories of your early days...
I wish you were my neighbor. You could have fixed my duct work with baffles decades ago, so I don't have to run my wood heat thru the cold air duct, and keep my gas furnace fan running when the stove is cooking.
Oh man, there are so many add-ons that don't work like they are supposed to that it just ain't funny !! Some can be a challenge for sure.
Another quality job on the way!!!!
Hot doggies, I sure hope so !! The old system was of a horrible design. No way to move properly balanced air through THREE levels of duct network. We will get closer on part 2.
Yay a sheet metal tutorial. Looking forward to part 2. Thxs for the vids Tractorman44!
Good Evening ol' buddy. How's the season treating you these days...??! I'm editing part 2 now. It was just too long to put up. Then there's other supporting videos highlighting the odd fittings fabrication to follow as well.
@tractorman4461 I'm enjoying the El Niño weather on the wet coast of BC. Temps are 9°F above normal. Got 1" of snow early Dec. I may have to mow the grass one more time.
Turned 60 late October...not ready to retire yet. Still enjoying the challenges of tin bashing. Take care.
@@daviddesilva4971 that’s awesome. We hear BC is a neat place. We visited Vancouver a few years back and loved it !! I retired at 61 because I had 4 friends in the trades that died in their mid 50’s the year I turned 60. On the way home from #4’s wake I told the Missus I was done !! Within 6 months I hit 61 and walked away and never looked back !! Have a great evening David. Good talking to ya.
U r the greatest of all time. I mean it sir.
Well, I surely didn't to get this for a comment... !! (-: Thank you for the awesome comment, but I have to admit I worked with plenty who put my work to shame. But thank you for the best comment ever !! Gold Star for you today, and you are moved to the head of the class Matthew !! (-; Btw, if you want to see more, give this playlist a try: ua-cam.com/play/PLk72G9DTzZ1tqw8ST_xdUlPoy_O-SmuBx.html
Another great video Thanks Happy new year to you and the family.
Good Evening Tony...all is well and thank you for the compliment. Happy New Year to you and yours as well my friend.
Nice work. I never used gloves untill the last year or so, as the company supplies them
I never liked the way gloves felt unless it was extremely cold. I think you lose a 'feel' for the metal. But that's probably silly. Yeah, the company supplies them too, but I still never liked 'em. Thanks for watching. Btw, if this is your first venture to my sheet metall videos and want to see more, here's a sample in a playlist: ua-cam.com/play/PLk72G9DTzZ1tqw8ST_xdUlPoy_O-SmuBx.html
As well as being Handsome your also very Handy tm44. Your really slick at this.
Hahahahaha... I haven't won many beauty contests lately, and I NEVER know what the ladies think. So Dean, thank you for the compliment on the sheet metal stuff. LOL
Another fine job Wendell. Happy New Year to you and your family.
Thank you Dave. Quite a bit left on this job to come. May all the best come your way in the New Year as well. Happy New Year my friend.
Happy New Year Wendell, my wood furnace is connected to the oil furnace about the same way but much shorter runs, neat video!!!
Thanks Eric. Yeah, there's tons of ways to hook these thing into systems. Some are good and some not so good. LOL. But if it works, it works and that's good to beat the 'man' out of a few bucks. (-;
Cool stuff tractor man.
Thanks for hanging in there and watching another one !! Have a great week.
Happy new year Wendell to you and your family.
Good Evening Rick. Thank you and may I extend the same well wishes to you and your own family my friend.
Nice work buddy nice neat looking job . Hope you guys had a great New Years take care
Good Evening Tom...have ya missed me..? I've been busy over tictok way...well, that and the holidays took a bit of time out of the schedule too. Happy New Years to you and Gail as well !!
Good looking job.
I like duct work organized and in it's proper location. But I now see a lot of duct work just 'thrown together' and air flow improperly balanced. So sad!
This job was a real mess. Trying to serve THREE elevations with one system. Over 20 runs off of one truck. Blower/air hander so oversized you couldn't feel heat out the registers. The house couldn't even break 65* when its cold out. We separated the second floor and installed a second system in the attic to serve that area. Cut down the number of unnecessary runs in the below grade basement, and are adding forced air wood heat by means of automated damper controls between it and the electric air handler. Gutted the whole duct network...going back all new, properly sized, with new air handler and central air.
Them round take offs have two nubs on them to set your dividers at i thought too. On the back/top part.
Now THAT's something I never knew !! I'm gonna hafta go to the shed and check one now. Thank you for the added input. (-;
Haha tinners whiskers!
Yeah buddy..!! Those things will rip a hole in your hide quick as a wink !! The really tough ones break off about an 1/8" inside your finger. LOL. Oh yeah, they DO do that.... Thanks for watching another one my friend.
Nowadays this kind of work is underpaid specially in California, people doesn’t appreciate it
Every body uses flex ducts
We have our share of flex ducters here too. Should never have longer than 7' of flex and even that should be stretched to minimize turbulence and increased duct static. Thanks for shiming in with some input today !!
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Hey, good evening my friend. Thanks for watching another one !!