Sheet Metal Hack: Short Plenum Radius-Close Quarters

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  • Опубліковано 23 кві 2022
  • Another simple fitting to serve as a plenum and discharge into the main trunk is the focus of the video. An overview is given, then layout is described in detail, then specific folding steps are illustrated with a combination of real time and fast forwarding in the repetitive portions. It is an easy layout with the steps easily duplicated for any size of similar fitting. Once the process is understood, you just plug in the dimensions and do the same thing over and over.
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  • @jankotze1959
    @jankotze1959 2 роки тому +3

    It blow me away every-time how accurate you put the project on the bending machine, I will take for ever to get it square before bending, with every shot you put the plate on and bend immediately with no double checking and spot on every-time, just un-believable to watch, thanks for sharing Wendell

    • @tractorman4461
      @tractorman4461  2 роки тому +2

      It's all in making the correct marks with the scratch awl and hitting the marks with the bending bar !! Measuring correctly and marking correctly and not using the big fat majic markers make for accuracy Jan. I am glad you enjoy these videos my friend !!

  • @garymartin2336
    @garymartin2336 2 роки тому

    Just looked in...and you have built all the connections I need for my own new air handler to old ducting project. Calming to watch you work.

    • @tractorman4461
      @tractorman4461  2 роки тому +1

      This one was for a friend of a friend that I knew from my school days back in the 60's. Thanks for the kind comment Gary. There's really not much to making these fittings as long as you have the right tools. But the CAN be made totally on the workbench without the big equipment though. The technique is just a bit different. If you like this one, check out this playlist when you have time: ua-cam.com/video/PvDab537ul4/v-deo.html

  • @IndianaDoug
    @IndianaDoug 2 роки тому

    Right when I start to think I’m a pretty skilled fella…I watch this😁 great work my friend👍🏻

    • @tractorman4461
      @tractorman4461  2 роки тому +1

      Good evening my friend. Its good to see you stop in for a visit....and you always seem to bring a kind and supportive comment as well !! Take care, stay safe and have a wonderful week.

  • @daveyjoweaver6282
    @daveyjoweaver6282 2 роки тому

    OOOOOWEEEEEE! Have I had fun tippin JO and watching bends folds and creasing goin on! A Sunday morning 44 Adventure fer ser! Always enjoy watching you doing your tin bending and I Thank You my Friend! The good new today as well is that I’m actually wearing shoes! How different it is not to worry about shore toes in sandals or slippers. I do believe I can play kick the can again. Well first thing this week is replacing the catilictic converter. Honda replaced it three years ago, told me last week it was guaranteed 12 months, whoopee, eh? I asked how come the original lasted 16 years? I recon they are replacing them with cheap parts. Did find an exhaust place much cheaper but couldn’t take me until sometime in June. I had one bout of barely making it up a hill because of blockage but it’s been okay gingerly driving around on short trips. It gats fixed Wednesday by my mechanic of many years, conceived in a Chevy and born on an engine. One of those kind of guys with many years experience. Anyway, it’s a Lovely day here and I’m about ready to do some more tippin, sippin and hippin in me tutu your way! And You 44 TuTu? Hugs to Missus! Blessings to all! DaveyJO

    • @tractorman4461
      @tractorman4461  2 роки тому

      Glad to hear ol' buddy that you're back in your Buster Brown's !! Its ok to kick the can DaveyJO, as long as you don't go and kick the BUCKET !! They giving them catalytic converters away up there I hear.... Its that platinum in there that makes the thieves want to steal 'em all the time. We had a guy next county over got caught stealing a converter...Jacked a broken down car with a cheap jack along side the road. Laying under it with a battery saw zall the vibrations make the car slide off the jack and collapsed his chest. D E A D as a doornail when the wrecker showed up to tow her car in the morning. His car sitting there still in park idling in the 'getaway' position. He didn't get away though....LOL. Of course yours just wore out and wasn't stolen.... Thanks for visitin and I'm here a hopin all gets better and better every day with your walkin' and talkin'. Until next time take care and I'll tip a cuppaJO towards ya in the morning buddy !!

    • @daveyjoweaver6282
      @daveyjoweaver6282 2 роки тому

      @@tractorman4461 Tag and Buster in Buster Brown shoes,,,,,,as the song went. And as John Arbuckle said, you get what you pay for. But that guy under the car didn’t pay,,,,not with money. Somehow I don’t have much sympathy for dummies doing dummy things, thus the Darwin Awards. Like the guy who robbed a liquor store, demanded money, smokes and booze. The woman clerk sensed he was as smart as a bag of hammers and told him she would have to see some ID or she’d lose her job. The guy took out his license and showed her. Two hours later the cops picked him up at his house. And I Loved the Paul Harvey stories! Like the drunk pulled over by a cop on a four lane. On the opposite lanes there was an accident and the cop ordered him to stay put while he went to assist. Of course the guy took off. Getting home he told his wife that he’d been in bed for hours. When the cops showed up his wife passed on the info. The cops asked her to open their garage where they found their cruiser, he took the wrong car! Page two! May be I told this story before but it’s a good one. I remember a story where a friend knew a country tavern owner who was having a problem with drunks peeing behind the tavern, big time. So he rigged up an electric line and strung it through the weeds. Well when the drunks found themselves on their backs all wet, well let’s just say the problem solved. Now it’s time for more tippin and sippin your way since I wore out me brain telling stories. May well take several cups to get the synapzzzzzzzz a going again! Take care old 44 Buddy and think of the hours of tales when one day we click JO cups together! Indeed I kick the can but not the bucket yet. 44 Ranch is on my bucket list fer ser! DaveyJO

    • @tractorman4461
      @tractorman4461  2 роки тому

      @@daveyjoweaver6282 Ok ok ok....literally laughing all the way through DaveyJO !! Thank you for the stories. All good for sure !! Take care and keep kickin the can. Gotta head out to take the Missus in for routine check up....See ya later over another cuppaJO. (-:

    • @daveyjoweaver6282
      @daveyjoweaver6282 2 роки тому

      @@tractorman4461 Be sure to give Missus a squeeze for me! Tippin! DaveyJO

  • @RCAFpolarexpress
    @RCAFpolarexpress 2 роки тому +1

    Sir, you have made a true Steel Art Picasso Artiste Chef d'oeuvre mon ami 👍👌😇🧐 This is a great Classic Video of yours Sir and your personal hand touched at the end Sir Cheers 🍻

    • @tractorman4461
      @tractorman4461  2 роки тому

      Thank you mon ami for always the complimentary comment !! This one turned out pretty fair and it went it very easy, just about like it had a zipper on it !! Got lucky yet again I guess. LOL

  • @martinbenton742
    @martinbenton742 2 роки тому

    Excellent fitting.
    Some may not understand the reasoning for the cross breaks. This is to prevent noise from expansion and contraction as the air begins to move through and stops moving through. Similar to your cheeks moving in and out while trying to blow air with your mouth closed.
    (Hopefully that analysis makes sense).
    Doc

    • @tractorman4461
      @tractorman4461  2 роки тому +1

      Heck yeah Doc, that's as good an explanation as any !! Its also why the cheaply made vehicles of today have the fancy bends and shapes to their thin fenders.....LOL If the shaped 'em today like they did in the early 50's they'd dent up in high wind !!

  • @matthewedwardsnyder
    @matthewedwardsnyder 2 роки тому +1

    Tractor man I replace HVAC systems professionally and I’m a business owner but you are so good at it. I would like to know did you teach yourself? Did someone else teach you? Did you have a mentor? I admire you very much.

    • @tractorman4461
      @tractorman4461  2 роки тому +1

      I had a basic metals class one semester in college but the only tools besides tin snips, were a 4 foot brake and foot shear. We only made a couple variations of tool box trays and a few other very simple boxes. No lockformer, no hand crank tools or anything of the sort. I was going to the local Jr College for an AS degree, specializing in HVAC. I went to work in the afternoons after school for a local hvac guy that let me play with his small scrap materials on the shop floor after work to figure out the machines on my own. I would study duct fittings on existing systems while on service calls to figure out what they did to form them.
      I just built little by little my knowledge base, buying just about any old sheet metal tool that I came across. It's taken many years to put together the shop equipment you see. But there is a lot you guys don't see as well. No mentor, just lucky breaks I guess. When I went to work in the big city after graduation, I would never tell the boss I couldn't do something, I'd say something like I haven't done it before, but I'll figure it out. And so it went.
      I hadn't done hardly sheet metal for close to 25 years until I retired and dusted off the machines a little so I could help people less fortunate in and around town. The last 25 years of my career, I spent in large commercial and institutional HVAC service, with a heavy emphasis on commercial DDC controls, piping and system startup. I've had a good run. No regrets. Thank you Matthew, for the super comment. Just remember, doing the things I do can't be too hard if an old farm boy like myself can do it !! LOL

  • @tectalabyss
    @tectalabyss 2 роки тому

    Great job and instruction. All my very best to all.

    • @tractorman4461
      @tractorman4461  2 роки тому

      Thanks Bobby for stopping by for the visit today buddy !! Glad you enjoyed it.

  • @PaleHorseOutdoors
    @PaleHorseOutdoors 2 роки тому

    I'm a bit in awe, Wendell. I knew you had talents, but wow that was some precision work from my perspective. Nice!

    • @tractorman4461
      @tractorman4461  2 роки тому +1

      Thank you David for the very nice compliment my friend. I know you probably aren't into hvac big time, but if you want just a little more of a taste of the field, this group of videos might give you something to sip a bit of your favorite beverage over: ua-cam.com/video/PvDab537ul4/v-deo.html I wouldn't expect you to watch it all, but this series pretty much runs the gambit of some of the worst attic work you can get into with hvac. Odd fittings, air flow discussion, sealing duct with mastic, insulating duct externally and all of it in very tight spaces !! Fun Fun Fun !! Take care buddy, and see you on Ed's live stream....

    • @PaleHorseOutdoors
      @PaleHorseOutdoors 2 роки тому

      @@tractorman4461 Hey Wendell! As part of my job, we're creating training for a maintenance company at CA intermodal ports. Part of the training is introduction to metallurgy, welding and sheet metal fabrication so this is some very interesting content to me. Plus I like how you present yourself in videos! Thanks for the playlist! I will definitely be checking them out with a few hot mugs of coffee!

    • @tractorman4461
      @tractorman4461  2 роки тому +1

      @@PaleHorseOutdoors I sure hope you find some bit of entertainment in that nasty job !! I got plenty more too !! LOL

    • @PaleHorseOutdoors
      @PaleHorseOutdoors 2 роки тому

      @@tractorman4461 Cheers!

  • @matthewedwardsnyder
    @matthewedwardsnyder 2 роки тому +1

    You are a wizard.

    • @tractorman4461
      @tractorman4461  2 роки тому +1

      I assume you enjoyed the exercise then....?? LOL Thank you Mathew and if you enjoyed this, check out a couple playlists up top like this one. It has a lot of specialty fittings as well as sealing and insulating. ALL in an attic too : ua-cam.com/video/PvDab537ul4/v-deo.html

    • @matthewedwardsnyder
      @matthewedwardsnyder 2 роки тому

      @@tractorman4461 I appreciate this so much I’m a heating and cooling business owner and I’ve learned a lot from you I appreciate the free education!

  • @leonardryan8723
    @leonardryan8723 2 роки тому

    Soon I see you work , your in your back yard . I work at it to for 16 yr . Got same old tool where I did work to . Work in alum , gav. And SS steel in different size . One off my moose hunter client had the shop , give a job to me . He retired so did I at that job .

    • @tractorman4461
      @tractorman4461  2 роки тому

      That's cool that you had a good run in the field. Its been a good career for me as well. But I spent well over 40 years in hvac. I didn't do a lot of aluminum, but I did a lot of sheet metal.SS and lead sheet. If you like this check this playlist: ua-cam.com/video/PvDab537ul4/v-deo.html

  • @daviddesilva4971
    @daviddesilva4971 2 роки тому

    Nice work there, Tractorman44. Looking forward to the install. Thxs for the vids!

    • @tractorman4461
      @tractorman4461  2 роки тому +1

      Thanks David, unfortunately this was a location where I couldn't make a video of the installation. But it went in like it had a zipper on it, no muss and no fuss !!

  • @tonyjones1378
    @tonyjones1378 2 роки тому

    Another great video thanks

    • @tractorman4461
      @tractorman4461  2 роки тому +1

      Thanks Tony for enjoying the effort in sheet metal fab !! Have a great week, my friend.

  • @FanjetRG
    @FanjetRG 2 роки тому +1

    You are absolutely amazing. I could not do that on my best day…keep them coming.

    • @tractorman4461
      @tractorman4461  2 роки тому

      Hahahaha....Raymond, I think maybe I got you fooled !! LOL. It's all sleight of hand my friend. Just like a majician. (-: And a lot of luck helps too. Seriously though, thank you my friend for such kind words. I appreciate the time you take watching.

  • @mattthescrapwhisperer
    @mattthescrapwhisperer 2 роки тому

    Good stuff Wendell!

    • @tractorman4461
      @tractorman4461  2 роки тому +1

      Thanks Matt. This one was another simple fix. Took longer to clear the workbench than to make it. LOL

    • @mattthescrapwhisperer
      @mattthescrapwhisperer 2 роки тому

      @@tractorman4461 😂👍

  • @baroja5303
    @baroja5303 2 роки тому

    buen video u buenas explicaciones

    • @tractorman4461
      @tractorman4461  2 роки тому

      Gracias mi amigo por las palabras muy amables.

  • @glenharper3136
    @glenharper3136 2 роки тому

    I am always amazed at your endless skills!

    • @tractorman4461
      @tractorman4461  2 роки тому +1

      Hahahaha....heck Glen, I pretty much fake it as I go along. I get lucky sometimes I guess. (-: Thank you for the very kind comment !!

  • @coldspring624
    @coldspring624 2 роки тому

    44 have you ever told your followers about standing z iron and the why and where to use it? I realize it is not called for very often in residential but it has its place.

    • @tractorman4461
      @tractorman4461  2 роки тому +1

      I think I've mentioned the standing 'S' as well as the TDF connections as well in past videos. I use standing S's on larger systems....4 or 5 tons with the larger duct work to minimize flex. And many times on oversized r/a drops to minimize the same 'oil can' issue. I don't use them a lot though but they bear another discussion for sure.

  • @ScrewdriverTUNING
    @ScrewdriverTUNING 2 роки тому

    Beautiful work. !! Your shop seems like what mechanics dreams are made of. Shop tours would be fun .!! Keep being great .!!!

    • @tractorman4461
      @tractorman4461  2 роки тому +1

      If I could find the time, but I wouldn't know where to start !! ....I have a bunch of older videos that highlight the 100 year old Kearney and Trecker hozizontal mill and the vfd on the three phase J-head Bridgeport and some even on the Jet metal lathe. Several projects also with the little Clausing vertical mill and the old drill presses too. Thank you for the kind words about the metal. I only do metal to help out this friend or that friend or an old timer or widow that needs a little work done and can't afford it.

  • @lou198
    @lou198 2 роки тому

    Nice work tractor man tell me what trick you use those magnet strips on your brake for?

    • @tractorman4461
      @tractorman4461  2 роки тому +1

      Its a good place to keep track of them for one. But anytime I am making small fittings, instead of bending over to pick them up, I stick the next piece or two right on the bank of magnets when they are flat. It minimizes my steps. Then a lot of times when I make a weird bend that has to be flipped over and over to fold in a specific sequence, I'll stick a paper drawing under the magnets to keep the complicated series of folds right in my line of vision so I don't make a mistake. Make sense Lou ?? Its just what I do to make things easier for myself.

  • @marklester7034
    @marklester7034 2 роки тому +1

    Great start to the day!! Watching TM44 make duct!!!
    What’s you philosophy on duct insulation? Inside? Or wrap?
    Thank you for all you do! I really enjoy your channel!!

    • @tractorman4461
      @tractorman4461  2 роки тому +1

      Well Mark, I've done literally miles of duct with glued and pin spotted interior fibreglas and an uncountable amount of duct for external fibreglas wrap back in the day. But my favorite now is the double mylar wrapped bubble wrap. Quick, simple, clean and easy to cut and tape...aluminum tape only. Then cover the whole system with blown cellulose if its an attic job. When doing those jobs, I paint all joints with mastic prior to sealing the bubble wrap over the duct. Thank you for letting me know you enjoy the silly stuff that I share !!

  • @tomfillmore9710
    @tomfillmore9710 2 роки тому

    good job buddy way too many measurements for me to follow that would look way different if I was building it lol take care and have a great night

    • @tractorman4461
      @tractorman4461  2 роки тому

      Well Tom, I always tell the guys if it was hard, I wouldn't be able to do it !! LOL And that's the truth !!

  • @deanbarr5740
    @deanbarr5740 2 роки тому

    That was impressive tm 44. Your very good at this. How long did it take you to master this? My supervisor at work sent me to tubing school onetime. As work for a gas company Compressor Station. Thats a lot like what you do with heating and A/C duct building. It always amazed me how a person could take a stock piece of Tubing in 20' stock and bend and mold it to perfection. I got to be mediocre at best, but there were those who knew exactly what they were doing. A true art. Always, I enjoy your videos.

    • @tractorman4461
      @tractorman4461  2 роки тому +1

      Thanks Dean, that's nice to hear my friend and thank you for watching. I've been in hvac since the mid 70's and did a ton of metal back in the day. But my main focus has always been in commercial service. I just started doing metal to make sure I could stay busy year around to keep the family fed. Finally I had to quit that shop to go to another because they balked at my insistence to be involved in more commercial service. When I retired in 2013, I hadn't done hardly a spits worth of sheet metal for close to 20 years. That period of time though I got heavily into DDC controls and building automation as related to hvac and heavy commercial and institutional systems with chilled and hot water as well as variable air volume on DX systems. That's why I'm still a little rusty in the metal department. I'm still working the barn dust off of most of them....LOL