Awesome! The analytics say that the majority of my channel's views come from people age 55 and older. Glad to know there some younger folks watching, too!
Buck, maybe I missed it, but did you look at the underside of the deck? This is the MOST important part of the deck and the area that will do a deck in the quickest! Build up of grass clippings mixed with juice and dirt will stick to the deck, and if left attached will begin to eat away at the deck from underneath! Soon the deck will be full of holes and then it is useless! Yes it is important to clean the top side, but the underside is where the work is done!
Great video man. You did not skip a single step and explained it in very good detail. I had no idea how the brake system worked and connected. Thank You
Good video, good idea to take pics 1st. I put a nut on, flush with the bolt end before beating the bolt out of a hole to keep from damaging the threads. When the bolt is loose, unscrew the nut.
Thank you! Although I took lots of pictures, they were all up close detail, totally overlooked the bigger picture showing how it all relates, your video was a great help.
Not bad. Bought a LA 125 last year and the deck was in MUCH WORSE condition. I don't make videos but took a lot of pictures I'd like to share with you. Idler pulley seized and took out the mounting tower. The right rear mounting bracket was about ready to fall off, (I've seen this issue on several John Deere decks, I think their welder was set too high and burned through the metal). And rust holes everywhere! Completely repaired, modified where needed. Just started using it a few weeks ago.
Nice! Thanks for this video. I just brought an old 42in Sabre, that had been sitting 10+ years, back to life, and the deck is VERY loud. Need to replace the spindles & go through the whole deck. This video will be very helpful! Hoping it will last until winter. We'll see. 🤞
I just did this overhaul on my L110, it’s the exact same setup and parts. You’re exactly right. Remove the spindle pulleys gives you greater access to clean and paint but it is MUCH easier to install the break pads. Also, it’s a good time to service the spindles with the pulleys removed.
Great video very informative you would want to give some IES 1500 rust paint or por-15 and paint the underneath side of that deck you don't have to use yellow paint underneath just black and then you should put it on the rust on the top and then put your John Deere yellow over that that will saturate into the rust and it will never rest again that deck will last for 100 years IES is international epoxies and sealer you can purchase it through SNR fasteners Florida another great product to check out it's called clear pen Lube part number for 550 also and I E S product wonderful at lubricating metal-to-metal would be good to lubricate any of those moving mechanisms that do not have a grease cert it does not wash off will not attract dirt and we'll stay there for a long long time
Your reply is excellent. The only thing that I would add is to leave those pulley covers off. When the deck is mounted they are under the foot rests of the tractor out of the way. Doing that keeps alot of the debris from collecting and makes it easier to use a leaf blower or a hose to clean what's there off. I have a John deer 140, 1969 vintage and the deck has never been rusted because the covers were removed early on.
The paint job on the decks was really bad at one point. Sections would just flake off without the operator abusing it...or in my case with the operator trying to clean it with garden hose water or a blower.
A person like me for example,that do easily a minimum 70 hours of work every week,doesn’t have enough spare time for almost anything else in life….not even to my self.. But I keep mine inside my garage…and makes a huge difference…no rust on mine…just regular scratches from bushes for example…a touch of paint will make it brand new in minutes
I took my spindle covers off over 20 years ago when I saw how much grass etc collected around the pulley and was difficult getting it out. I’ve never looked back. Be it a garden hose or a leaf blower, that crap is out of there in mere seconds. No rust now.
Sir, thank you soo much I think with this helpful video of yours to be able to duplicate this beef-up activity that I am going to embark on soon. However I have a question, for the other side, I wish you would have shown me how to clean and will it also need to be painted? Thank you again for your time.
I know this sounds crazy but I leavce the pulley covers off in case the belt comes off it is easier (for me) to rethread the pulley. Thanks for the video.
These covers are designed to also serve as belt keepers, so it's best to leave them on. Admittedly, they're made of plastic, get worn down easily, so it's not a great design....
I saw you generously encouraged using grease as needed on the moving parts. Do any of those pulleys have grease fittings? If not, where should grease be applied by hand / finger? Thank You. Separately, but related, how can you tell if the pulleys should be replaced? Thanks, again.
Thank you for this video. The powder coat is hard but brittle. If the deck flexes, it is liable to crack near mounting brackets. Do what you can as early as possible to slow it down. The deck is detachable so that you can clean it up every couple of months and stop the rust. At least spray some oil on the rusty spots until you can get some evaporust and paint. Man versus rust.
I use my sister inlaws mower and the rust looks similar. Same model. Never had grass on top. I think it was factory defect how they applied paint improperly. She insists I use that stupid clean out port after every single mow.
I'll never understand why someone thought using a garden hose was a good idea to clean the underside of a mower deck. Water plus caked on grass clippings....sounds like a recipe for rust, if you ask me....
Nice job. Can you get replacement decals with safety information for the deck? Also, how long should you hear the blades spinning after being disengaged, before they stop spinning? Many thanks.
I’ve just been working on one of these old turds, and that bushing I’m watching you put on this blade brake, is shit. It and the coilspring & washer should be replaced. They look rusty as hell, and won’t spin as easily when they’re rusty. Made mine move much better.
i cannot get that idle pulley GY22172 away from the black bracket it mounts to , after 16 years of being mounted there it will not come off, and its not even rusty
Buck did an outstanding job, except for the most important feature. What is it, Can you guess? For those of you who know anything about materials, you will already have the answer. For those of you who have no technical training or experience I will give you the answer. All of the surface oxidation (commonly called rust) must be completely removed down to white metal Prior to the application of any coatings whatsoever. Why is that important? For bonding purposes. Any coating will not bond to the Base metal but instead to the oxidized Surface rust. And the metal oxidation will continue to grow and expand Under any Applied coatings. Buck Completely wasted all of his time and Effort. The Underlying surface corrosion will act as a boundary layer that will not permit the paint to bond to the metal. And in just a year or two massive delamination of the Paint coatings will occur. The Second major error is that he should have used a high quality metal primer After all surface corrosion was removed which would have resultes in a far superior paint job. It's unfortunate, but all that work is not a long term fix at all; In fact it's just like putting a bandaid over a massive skin infection. The infection continues to grow under the surface of the band aid. On the positive side Buck's workmanship was actually very good. But, the entire deck needed to be first and foremost grit blasted to white metal prior to any coating application Whatsoever. As any experienced and knowledgeable painter will tell you.The job all comes down to surface preparation. So all his work ended up being in vain.
This is nothing new now days thy do not use any primer under the paint anymore thy just powder coat and send them out. Had a 2007 chev started losing it paint after ir was 2 years old and in one month have the paint came off and warranty would not cover it to get it repainted never got another chev after that.
How much in parts and time/labor? A brand new, fully assembled, plug-and-play deck was $700 delivered. I maintained mine quite well, but after 14 seasons, it was just time. 20 minutes to swap.
It looks very good. Did you also power wash the bottom? I worked on a John Deere 48 inch cut deck, it has the spacers that allow to tighten the bolts that hold the brakes for the blades, like the idler pulley that moves. I was surprised they don't use those on the smaller deck. Very good video sir
Have a Kubota deck got it sandblasted much thicker than the gohn deer got my Kubota deck galvanized not so sure about the gohn deer deck as they are too light my deck will last for years
Sir, you don't realize how much you helped this 23 year old out, thank you so much for this video!!!
Awesome! The analytics say that the majority of my channel's views come from people age 55 and older. Glad to know there some younger folks watching, too!
Buck, maybe I missed it, but did you look at the underside of the deck? This is the MOST important part of the deck and the area that will do a deck in the quickest! Build up of grass clippings mixed with juice and dirt will stick to the deck, and if left attached will begin to eat away at the deck from underneath! Soon the deck will be full of holes and then it is useless! Yes it is important to clean the top side, but the underside is where the work is done!
Yes he looked at it briefly around the 3:30 mark - said it looked clean and the blades were in decent shape, but could maybe use a sharpening.
Great video. Saves a lot of money if you can do it yourself.
Great video man. You did not skip a single step and explained it in very good detail. I had no idea how the brake system worked and connected. Thank You
Good video, good idea to take pics 1st. I put a nut on, flush with the bolt end before beating the bolt out of a hole to keep from damaging the threads. When the bolt is loose, unscrew the nut.
Thank you! Although I took lots of pictures, they were all up close detail, totally overlooked the bigger picture showing how it all relates, your video was a great help.
Not bad. Bought a LA 125 last year and the deck was in MUCH WORSE condition. I don't make videos but took a lot of pictures I'd like to share with you. Idler pulley seized and took out the mounting tower. The right rear mounting bracket was about ready to fall off, (I've seen this issue on several John Deere decks, I think their welder was set too high and burned through the metal). And rust holes everywhere! Completely repaired, modified where needed. Just started using it a few weeks ago.
Great job! Thanks.
One can repair the idler pulleys. Drill out the spot welds and/rivets. Replace the bearing. Bolt back together using nylon insert locknuts.
Hi Buck, good work on the video, I’ve pulled the hole deck apart, sand blasted and powder coated, looks great,
Oh wow! You're really doing it right!
Im in the same process wirh my deck. Gonna hit mine with Rust Reformer before I paint. Hoping to stop the rust in its tracks.😊
Thank you I certainly appreciate all your efforts and desire to help us John Deere folks!!! Great video
Folks this is a prime example of why it's critical to RTFM and do your annual maintenance on your outdoor power equipment.
These are great vids to learn how to fix your lawn mower
Really helpful step-by-step video. Thank you for the help.
Thanks, Tim.
It’s amazing what a coat does.
Greetings from Ireland.
Thank you so very much, my brother! Blessed my socks off here in Louisiana!
A little anti seize on the pivot points of the blade brake works better than grease, but even if you are careful it is a bit messy.
Thank you for covering those two springs in detail. That was my sticking point.
Very Nice! ✅😎 I’m 46 & From Iowa, 1st Time Viewer Of Your Lawnmower Deck Stuff, Working On A JD 115 Automatic Now Myself.
Nice!
Thanks for this video.
I just brought an old 42in Sabre, that had been sitting 10+ years, back to life, and the deck is VERY loud. Need to replace the spindles & go through the whole deck.
This video will be very helpful! Hoping it will last until winter. We'll see. 🤞
Awesome video... was dreading reassemble but you made it so easy! Thanks
Thanks, Steve
Nice job mines not too bad but I need to replace the bearings on this spindles. Thank you.
Thank you, very helpful.
Why not take the pulleys off, so you can clean and paint under there?
I just did this overhaul on my L110, it’s the exact same setup and parts. You’re exactly right. Remove the spindle pulleys gives you greater access to clean and paint but it is MUCH easier to install the break pads.
Also, it’s a good time to service the spindles with the pulleys removed.
Yes remove the pulley to clean it properly and remove the dirt 😊
Great job super helpful
That looks good
John deere spindles have grease fitting
Thank you sir!!
Great video very informative you would want to give some IES 1500 rust paint or por-15 and paint the underneath side of that deck you don't have to use yellow paint underneath just black and then you should put it on the rust on the top and then put your John Deere yellow over that that will saturate into the rust and it will never rest again that deck will last for 100 years IES is international epoxies and sealer you can purchase it through SNR fasteners Florida another great product to check out it's called clear pen Lube part number for 550 also and I E S product wonderful at lubricating metal-to-metal would be good to lubricate any of those moving mechanisms that do not have a grease cert it does not wash off will not attract dirt and we'll stay there for a long long time
Your reply is excellent. The only thing that I would add is to leave those pulley covers off. When the deck is mounted they are under the foot rests of the tractor out of the way. Doing that keeps alot of the debris from collecting and makes it easier to use a leaf blower or a hose to clean what's there off. I have a John deer 140, 1969 vintage and the deck has never been rusted because the covers were removed early on.
Thank you. Very detail video.
Great job 💥🛠
I would have greased the spindles before washing.
Don't understand how anyone could invest that kind of money in equipment and just let it go south.
These decks are very difficult to keep clean, I blow , wash, and hand clean mine after every mow, it still rusted.
The paint job on the decks was really bad at one point. Sections would just flake off without the operator abusing it...or in my case with the operator trying to clean it with garden hose water or a blower.
A person like me for example,that do easily a minimum 70 hours of work every week,doesn’t have enough spare time for almost anything else in life….not even to my self..
But I keep mine inside my garage…and makes a huge difference…no rust on mine…just regular scratches from bushes for example…a touch of paint will make it brand new in minutes
I took my spindle covers off over 20 years ago when I saw how much grass etc collected around the pulley and was difficult getting it out. I’ve never looked back. Be it a garden hose or a leaf blower, that crap is out of there in mere seconds. No rust now.
@@mattb9664 powder coat failure on the Deere decks is a known issue on these.
Sir, thank you soo much I think with this helpful video of yours to be able to duplicate this beef-up activity that I am going to embark on soon. However I have a question, for the other side, I wish you would have shown me how to clean and will it also need to be painted?
Thank you again for your time.
I really appreciate that video... Thank you.
Thank you so much!
I would have put grease on the Brake springs!
you neever did show how much to adjust the deck brake pads the one thing i really wanted to know!!!!!
Awesome video !
Looks good
I clean my mower deck after every use
Very helpful video...doing the exact same thing to my LA115.
Awesome! You'll get longer life out of your machine!
A 30 buck leaf blower can save you lots of money
I very much agree and use it after each mowing 😊
Primer ?
I know this sounds crazy but I leavce the pulley covers off in case the belt comes off it is easier (for me) to rethread the pulley. Thanks for the video.
These covers are designed to also serve as belt keepers, so it's best to leave them on. Admittedly, they're made of plastic, get worn down easily, so it's not a great design....
I saw you generously encouraged using grease as needed on the moving parts. Do any of those pulleys have grease fittings? If not, where should grease be applied by hand / finger? Thank You. Separately, but related, how can you tell if the pulleys should be replaced? Thanks, again.
I took the deck of my 2010 X530 and painted it green to make it look newer. For money these cost you need to do regular maintenance ion them
I would have used the rust stopper and heavy coat of primer first and then two coat of paint 😊
Why not ???
Bracket for mower deck
Thank you for this video. The powder coat is hard but brittle. If the deck flexes, it is liable to crack near mounting brackets. Do what you can as early as possible to slow it down. The deck is detachable so that you can clean it up every couple of months and stop the rust. At least spray some oil on the rusty spots until you can get some evaporust and paint. Man versus rust.
These comments are directed toward the viewer. I highly suspect the deck was this way when you got it.
But what did you do with the operators seat that was crumbling.
Oh how I wish this was a Troy bilt deck with that spring. I’m so puzzled
I clean my rider after each use
Water from your tap dose not hurt the deck it’s rain water and wet grass that rusts the deck.
Those spindle covers are they all standard on mower decks and don't they collect more grass and other lawn stuff
I use my sister inlaws mower and the rust looks similar. Same model. Never had grass on top. I think it was factory defect how they applied paint improperly. She insists I use that stupid clean out port after every single mow.
I'll never understand why someone thought using a garden hose was a good idea to clean the underside of a mower deck. Water plus caked on grass clippings....sounds like a recipe for rust, if you ask me....
I can't find the brake rods that go between the tension pulley bracket and the brake pad bracket.
Nice job. Can you get replacement decals with safety information for the deck? Also, how long should you hear the blades spinning after being disengaged, before they stop spinning? Many thanks.
I have no idea about the decals. Blades spin for a few seconds, I'd say, maybe 5 or so, once disengaged till coming to a full stop.
@@Buckwsr many thanks.
I need to remove the pedistal that you left on the deck. How do I remove that
I’ve just been working on one of these old turds, and that bushing I’m watching you put on this blade brake, is shit.
It and the coilspring & washer should be replaced.
They look rusty as hell, and won’t spin as easily when they’re rusty.
Made mine move much better.
i cannot get that idle pulley GY22172 away from the black bracket it mounts to , after 16 years of being mounted there it will not come off, and its not even rusty
Buck did an outstanding job, except for the most important feature. What is it, Can you guess? For those of you who know anything about materials, you will already have the answer. For those of you who have no technical training or experience I will give you the answer.
All of the surface oxidation (commonly called rust) must be completely removed down to white metal Prior to the application of any coatings whatsoever. Why is that important? For bonding purposes. Any coating will not bond to the Base metal but instead to the oxidized Surface rust. And the metal oxidation will continue to grow and expand Under any Applied coatings. Buck Completely wasted all of his time and Effort. The Underlying surface corrosion will act as a boundary layer that will not permit the paint to bond to the metal. And in just a year or two massive delamination of the Paint coatings will occur. The Second major error is that he should have used a high quality metal primer After all surface corrosion was removed which would have resultes in a far superior paint job. It's unfortunate, but all that work is not a long term fix at all; In fact it's just like putting a bandaid over a massive skin infection. The infection continues to grow under the surface of the band aid. On the positive side Buck's workmanship was actually very good. But, the entire deck needed to be first and foremost grit blasted to white metal prior to any coating application Whatsoever. As any experienced and knowledgeable painter will tell you.The job all comes down to surface preparation. So all his work ended up being in vain.
Yes sir it’s all about making long videos 😢😢😢
This is nothing new now days thy do not use any primer under the paint anymore thy just powder coat and send them out. Had a 2007 chev started losing it paint after ir was 2 years old and in one month have the paint came off and warranty would not cover it to get it repainted never got another chev after that.
How much in parts and time/labor? A brand new, fully assembled, plug-and-play deck was $700 delivered. I maintained mine quite well, but after 14 seasons, it was just time. 20 minutes to swap.
Well, certainly after 14 seasons, you certainly deserve a brand new one. Can't complain about that....
It looks very good. Did you also power wash the bottom? I worked on a John Deere 48 inch cut deck, it has the spacers that allow to tighten the bolts that hold the brakes for the blades, like the idler pulley that moves. I was surprised they don't use those on the smaller deck.
Very good video sir
Thanks so much, Bert!
@@Buckwsr
Welcome, I also found with PTO, they don't use brakes for the blade spindles, I guess the PTO will stop a d therefore stop the blades
1 of My deck brakes won’t pull off the pulley. I racked my brain trying to figure it out.
I have a D110 in bad shape, I just had spindles installed but it still needs work, Do you know how much a rehab like you did costs?
Thanks 4 git me the. Best video I never see Thanks GAD BLESS U. ALLS WAYS
Those pulley covers help collect more debris. Leave them off.
They also provide guides for the belt ! just need to be blown out after every use !
Samd blast it to😅
Any secrets in removing rusted bolt off of pulley attached to spindle. I think it is 15/16 bolt...
with the blade installed, you can use a block of wood under the deck to immobilize the blade/spindle, and then break loose that 15/16" pulley bolt.
I thought maybe that belt was going to be too long you have to cut it down LOL
Can you give me the brake part numbers so i can order Thanks Larry
Parts are listed in video description with links to Amazon. Good luck!
Have a Kubota deck got it sandblasted much thicker than the gohn deer got my Kubota deck galvanized not so sure about the gohn deer deck as they are too light my deck will last for years
lucky there wasn't a mouse hiding in there
Great video thank you
That powder coat sucks in my opinion just holds water when it comes loose!!
You messed those treads up on the shoot bolts
Yep for sure 😢😢😢
Great video, thanks!