Nice job , my life long friend is a house builder ,he’s slowing down some now ,but when he was busy he had a slew of hangers and tapers …I knew 2 that very seldom needed sanding for paint prep ,( I painted on my winter layoff ). I was always amazed at their ability and speed .it was always a joy to watch them work ,and stilts like it an extension of their legs and all the tricks they had to work a room non stop .all the trades have their methods that make them the best in what they do . Thanks for the video…..
"It's not that critical." Yes, that'll pass for a lot of people in the trades, but I'm like you, Herrick. The job isn't finished until I'm satisfied with my work. I learned another old saying in the Army... Lord, I'm almost out of fingers to count the decades back, but I've never forgotten it. "There's never time to do it right, but there's always time to do it over." (Enter stage left... Mike Holmes).... "If you're gonna do it, do it right... the first time." WHY, why are people who consider themselves "Craftsmen," satisfied with a half-assed job? Thanks for another great one................
Most of the drywall jobs I did had mud texture spray shot on the walls, like a monterrey knock down finish. Thus the joint taping was not extremely critical. However on a wall with a smooth finish, with no texture sprayed on with your hopper, it is very critical to have near perfect joints. Thanks for another good tip.
I just finished a 320 sq feet master suite (by far the most I’ve ever done), and I tried to use a sponge sander first, and it looked far inferior to the dry sanding with a fine sanding sponge. So, now I just use two sanding sponges, one medium grit, one fine, and the finished product looked nearly flawless. Great video!
I agree with your assessment, I have tried wet sponging, and it has its place, but I have never been able to get results that could compare to dry sanding. I used to use the sanding screen, but have gone more to the paper, because even a 220 screen will leave tracks in the finish, not really an issue with texture, but problematic for a smooth finish.
When I first started out back in the 70’s we used electric sanders. It actually does a good job but the dust it creates is unbelievable. I have wet sanded when the job is small or dust is unacceptable but maintaining the exact moisture level in the sponge or cloth to get a good job is very difficult and I agree that the finish is generally not as good as sanding. Thanks for all the good advice you give from your experience. Nothing is more valuable that experience.
I’ve always been both. Learned drywall in the early seventies and got very good at it. Always sanded with 150 on a pad before switching to a screen after they came out but then always finished with a wet sponge. It cleaned everything up nicely and often would expose areas that needed a bit of touching up before painting.
Agreed 100% with everything you said here. By hand is the only way to get a primo job. I use the regular pole sander for ceilings and foam sander on the edges. The pad sander also works good on edges. Try the gator sandpaper and foam sander from lowes I've been happy with it.
I totally agree that dry sanding gives the flattest results. The joint compound manufacturers suggest wet sanding for legal reasons on account of the respiratory hazards of dust. I don't sand between coats, but just use my 4 inch taping knife to knock off any friable ridges. I like the sanding screen like you use. I have a vacuum sander handle that I use for some jobs in finished homes. It works great at catching maybe 95% of the dust. The key element in that setup is a "dust deputy" cyclonic trap between the sander and the shop vac. Otherwise the filter will clog too quickly. Anyhow, I have been doing drywall repairs a long time and with good results but still have not achieved the mythical-level skill that eliminates sanding.
Wow, this is timely advice for me. This coming week I will be repairing multiple (foundation-caused) drywall cracks in a small bathroom. Sanding dust will be such an issue that I would have been tempted to try the damp sponge trick had I not seen this video. Thanks.
I love sanding screen, when cleaning a tough mineral ring inside a toilet, or maybe on the outside of a stainless steel skillet, when the grease is cooked on. It must, however, be used carefully, the etch is so permanent. A sanding screen has saved the day many times as I cleaned homes. Regards, Herrick, from far north California
As you stated in the beginning, I humbly confess that I have to do very little sanding and only use the 3m (dry) sponge. It’s all in the way that I use the 6”, 10” and 12” blades and I don’t sand in between coats. Coat 1 is heavy and for major imperfections. Coat number two I’m already beginning to smooth with my blade. Final coat I’m feathering. Then I do the fine-tuning with the sanding sponge dry.
Honestly, wet sanding/finishing seems to take a lot more work and elbow grease! I'm not a professional, but have hung and finished some drywall. Old fashioned hand-sanding is still the best! Of course, an old pro once told me, "If you apply your first coat of mud correctly, you won't have as much sanding to do".
I enjoy watching your videos, very informative. Can you tell me what’s the 10” Hyde knife part number that you use as a hawk? I’m an electrician and I often do small patches using fast setting joint compound. That’s a very handy tool and I’d like to get one.
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Nice job , my life long friend is a house builder ,he’s slowing down some now ,but when he was busy he had a slew of hangers and tapers …I knew 2 that very seldom needed sanding for paint prep ,( I painted on my winter layoff ). I was always amazed at their ability and speed .it was always a joy to watch them work ,and stilts like it an extension of their legs and all the tricks they had to work a room non stop .all the trades have their methods that make them the best in what they do . Thanks for the video…..
"It's not that critical." Yes, that'll pass for a lot of people in the trades, but I'm like you, Herrick. The job isn't finished until I'm satisfied with my work. I learned another old saying in the Army... Lord, I'm almost out of fingers to count the decades back, but I've never forgotten it. "There's never time to do it right, but there's always time to do it over." (Enter stage left... Mike Holmes).... "If you're gonna do it, do it right... the first time." WHY, why are people who consider themselves "Craftsmen," satisfied with a half-assed job? Thanks for another great one................
Great info especially for us that are weekend DIY’s
Here's the radical (and USG approved!) method to ensuring butt seams are never an issue:
Most of the drywall jobs I did had mud texture spray shot on the walls, like a monterrey knock down finish. Thus the joint taping was not extremely critical. However on a wall with a smooth finish, with no texture sprayed on with your hopper, it is very critical to have near perfect joints. Thanks for another good tip.
you need to do it when the mud is still semi wet, before it changes color but after most of the moisture is gone, use a sponge the natural kind.
I just finished a 320 sq feet master suite (by far the most I’ve ever done), and I tried to use a sponge sander first, and it looked far inferior to the dry sanding with a fine sanding sponge. So, now I just use two sanding sponges, one medium grit, one fine, and the finished product looked nearly flawless. Great video!
I agree with your assessment, I have tried wet sponging, and it has its place, but I have never been able to get results that could compare to dry sanding. I used to use the sanding screen, but have gone more to the paper, because even a 220 screen will leave tracks in the finish, not really an issue with texture, but problematic for a smooth finish.
When I first started out back in the 70’s we used electric sanders. It actually does a good job but the dust it creates is unbelievable. I have wet sanded when the job is small or dust is unacceptable but maintaining the exact moisture level in the sponge or cloth to get a good job is very difficult and I agree that the finish is generally not as good as sanding. Thanks for all the good advice you give from your experience. Nothing is more valuable that experience.
I’ve always been both. Learned drywall in the early seventies and got very good at it. Always sanded with 150 on a pad before switching to a screen after they came out but then always finished with a wet sponge. It cleaned everything up nicely and often would expose areas that needed a bit of touching up before painting.
Agreed 100% with everything you said here. By hand is the only way to get a primo job. I use the regular pole sander for ceilings and foam sander on the edges. The pad sander also works good on edges. Try the gator sandpaper and foam sander from lowes I've been happy with it.
I totally agree that dry sanding gives the flattest results. The joint compound manufacturers suggest wet sanding for legal reasons on account of the respiratory hazards of dust. I don't sand between coats, but just use my 4 inch taping knife to knock off any friable ridges. I like the sanding screen like you use. I have a vacuum sander handle that I use for some jobs in finished homes. It works great at catching maybe 95% of the dust. The key element in that setup is a "dust deputy" cyclonic trap between the sander and the shop vac. Otherwise the filter will clog too quickly. Anyhow, I have been doing drywall repairs a long time and with good results but still have not achieved the mythical-level skill that eliminates sanding.
Wow, this is timely advice for me. This coming week I will be repairing multiple (foundation-caused) drywall cracks in a small bathroom. Sanding dust will be such an issue that I would have been tempted to try the damp sponge trick had I not seen this video. Thanks.
I love sanding screen, when cleaning a tough mineral ring inside a toilet, or maybe on the outside of a stainless steel skillet, when the grease is cooked on. It must, however, be used carefully, the etch is so permanent. A sanding screen has saved the day many times as I cleaned homes. Regards, Herrick, from far north California
As you stated in the beginning, I humbly confess that I have to do very little sanding and only use the 3m (dry) sponge. It’s all in the way that I use the 6”, 10” and 12” blades and I don’t sand in between coats. Coat 1 is heavy and for major imperfections. Coat number two I’m already beginning to smooth with my blade. Final coat I’m feathering. Then I do the fine-tuning with the sanding sponge dry.
thanks for the info it is always valuable
Honestly, wet sanding/finishing seems to take a lot more work and elbow grease! I'm not a professional, but have hung and finished some drywall. Old fashioned hand-sanding is still the best! Of course, an old pro once told me, "If you apply your first coat of mud correctly, you won't have as much sanding to do".
If you know how to float then no sanding is needed, taping knife for scraping and a damp rag is all you need.
I enjoy watching your videos, very informative. Can you tell me what’s the 10” Hyde knife part number that you use as a hawk? I’m an electrician and I often do small patches using fast setting joint compound. That’s a very handy tool and I’d like to get one.
Festool festool festool the only way to go no dust best tool in the world if you can afford it