The Avengers Endgame Debate (Colin VS SK)

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  • @s.k.4289
    @s.k.4289 3 місяці тому +170

    John2008 really tried to assassinate me on live TV. Crazy.

    • @J0HN2008
      @J0HN2008 3 місяці тому +33

      I will get you next time

    • @shardsoftime0952
      @shardsoftime0952 3 місяці тому +12

      ​@@J0HN2008💀

    • @OGsubway
      @OGsubway 3 місяці тому +3

      I’m right you’re wrong

    • @J0HN2008
      @J0HN2008 3 місяці тому +6

      @@OGsubway nah I’d win

    • @OGsubway
      @OGsubway 3 місяці тому +6

      @@J0HN2008*dies

  • @The--WayPoint
    @The--WayPoint 3 місяці тому +24

    i feel origins is the most artistically deferent to the rest of the arkham games and it has such a deferent and i love it

  • @Starkstar502
    @Starkstar502 3 місяці тому +97

    It’s me, I started the Endgame debate.

    • @matthewcrane5294
      @matthewcrane5294 3 місяці тому +4

      Why do you talk like that brother

    • @Starkstar502
      @Starkstar502 3 місяці тому +7

      @@matthewcrane5294 I have a stuttering issue.

    • @matthewcrane5294
      @matthewcrane5294 3 місяці тому +5

      @@Starkstar502 I just meant all soft like that. I don’t remember even hearing you stutter lmao

    • @Joker-dn5xs
      @Joker-dn5xs 3 місяці тому +5

      Are you proud of the chaos you caused?

    • @Wafflemister
      @Wafflemister 3 місяці тому +3

      “It was me Barry…”

  • @shardsoftime0952
    @shardsoftime0952 3 місяці тому +37

    The McDonalds on caught me off guard 💀

  • @x7frost947
    @x7frost947 3 місяці тому +37

    I hate when people say something is a certain way and then cant explain what they even mean 😭

  • @randomt800kiddo2
    @randomt800kiddo2 3 місяці тому +74

    what was that arkham origins dude yapping about 😭

    • @maaaaan1234
      @maaaaan1234 3 місяці тому +17

      he thought we ordered a yappuchino with extra yap😭

    • @randomt800kiddo2
      @randomt800kiddo2 3 місяці тому +11

      @@maaaaan1234 on god bro was saying the same buzz words over and over again like hitop films 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

    • @lm_slayer1
      @lm_slayer1 3 місяці тому

      @@randomt800kiddo2exactly the 1st thing I thought of. All emotion no logic, literally word for word the shit hitop says when glazing raimi for the millionth time and shitting on watts

    • @batsaubattler3200
      @batsaubattler3200 3 місяці тому +2

      @@randomt800kiddo2 he was waiting for others to bring up negative points so he can latch on to a point it was sad

  • @batsaubattler3200
    @batsaubattler3200 3 місяці тому +26

    The guy that was debating batman didnt realy know what he was gonna say . He just came on to be on stream

  • @UchihaMirage
    @UchihaMirage 3 місяці тому +21

    The McDonald’s monkey thing was so uncalled for yet so funny 😂😂😂😂

    • @J0HN2008
      @J0HN2008 3 місяці тому

      🐒 indeed

  • @maaaaan1234
    @maaaaan1234 3 місяці тому +22

    the arkham origins dude was just sayin a whole bunch of nothing he literally didn’t have one valid point the game play was not identical?

  • @ShadowNemesis575
    @ShadowNemesis575 3 місяці тому +5

    That "STARK" took me out lol. Got me thinking about a stupid ass ShenAndygans bit where they were talking about Mike Tyson as Thanos. I don't need to elaborate further. You can hear it 😂

  • @jonathansdreamland1207
    @jonathansdreamland1207 2 місяці тому +7

    Bro the “stfu the adults are talking” is insane

  • @henrygambles3652
    @henrygambles3652 3 місяці тому +17

    48:10 “This is why you’re not the son of Lucas!” Never in my 23 years of human existence have I heard such savagery!

  • @zonev42
    @zonev42 3 місяці тому +14

    bro this debate was funny asf on stream😂😂🤣🤣🤣

  • @zage932
    @zage932 2 місяці тому +5

    Whilte it sure is intimidating to debate against around 2-3 people at once, they should at the very least have 4 reasons on their thoughts and have evidence to back it up. I don't expect them to have a rebuttal, but at least come prepared.

  • @J0HN2008
    @J0HN2008 3 місяці тому +24

    0:26 I had aura in this one

    • @J0HN2008
      @J0HN2008 3 місяці тому +2

      @callmemorgius yes it is me

  • @CyberSonic-V3.0
    @CyberSonic-V3.0 3 місяці тому +4

    To the part about the assassins. Not every boss fight needs to be super integral to the game. Its good to just have a simple fight with a power housed villain.

    • @chandlerburse
      @chandlerburse 3 місяці тому

      @@CyberSonic-V3.0 not every boss was integral to Origins tho

  • @SortofFriendlySM
    @SortofFriendlySM 3 місяці тому +1

    This is a good idea Colin disagreement day highlights 🔥🔥

  • @jefferyandbob3137
    @jefferyandbob3137 2 місяці тому +2

    the discord noises are drivin me coo coo, cant tell which are real

  • @nickreed3924
    @nickreed3924 3 місяці тому +6

    The captain america argument has always been so weird to me. Him retiring to be with Peggy isn't character assassination, for a plethora of reasons. But mainly, he already did a life time of hero work. Why is he required to do a second one? Heroes can retire. Are they mlnot aloud to live a normal life after they've done their part for the world?

    • @joaquincortescasas8114
      @joaquincortescasas8114 3 місяці тому +10

      Because he told Bucky he would be there to the very end and, in Endgame, we see cap doing literally the exact opposite of what he wanted. His relationship with Bucky is so important that cap was willing to become a criminal and go against the avengers to stand by him. Since he promised him decades ago and still stood by the promise...until endgame...
      The concept of captain america retiring it's alien to him in the comics and previous movies, almost akin to Spiderman. I know some people are fine with it, but it bothers me a lot being a huge cap fan. I would've prefered if he died like Tony did, following his beliefs, rather than retiring because the actor didn't want to play the character anymore.

  • @PurpleRyuga
    @PurpleRyuga 2 місяці тому +4

    That first guy is so annoying he just kept saying it doesn't have the same soul or atmosphere repeatedly while refusing to elaborate even when asked as vaas would say that's the definition of insanity

  • @liammatthews1701
    @liammatthews1701 2 місяці тому +4

    The origins guy can can't even explain why he doesn't like it. Bro was just yapping

  • @scratcho.9980
    @scratcho.9980 Місяць тому

    There's such a thing as theoretical physics or metaphysics. Why couldn't Tony create a GPS or figure out time travel based on no information at all except for the fact he knows/assumes that it is possible? Tony could just plug random variables and made up data into simulations based on things that he does know until eventually he creates a simulation that theoretically works. Absolutely no hard data about the quantum realm to work with but he could still have a simulation of his device working within it but wouldn't know if it actually would work until he conducted an experiment with the real thing.

  • @KnifeGoo
    @KnifeGoo 3 місяці тому +12

    infinity war> endgame

    • @yoyoyiggityyo17
      @yoyoyiggityyo17 3 місяці тому

      Fuck em both

    • @Shapes_Quality_Control
      @Shapes_Quality_Control 3 місяці тому +1

      Yeah but they are both lame so what does that matter?

    • @KnifeGoo
      @KnifeGoo 3 місяці тому +1

      @@Shapes_Quality_Control thor being a big chungus ruined it for me and i also think time travel is just lazy writing, ik there will be some nerd saying, "bUt ThAts hoW it HaPPeneD In thE ComIc🤓", dont care time travel is lame

    • @Shapes_Quality_Control
      @Shapes_Quality_Control 3 місяці тому +1

      @@KnifeGoo with regards to the time travel I was wondering why so many time travel plot lines in Star Trek worked but in Marvel it doesn’t and I think it’s because the episodic nature of Star Trek storytelling always ensured that no matter how outlandish or goofy the time travel was, the loop was always closed within the episode so the crew could move on to the next adventure. Sure occasionally they would make a callback to a previous time travel method like Star Trek IV using the solar slingshot from way back in “Assignment: Earth” which was filmed 20 years prior but nothing more substantial. The time travel was just a means for advancing the story and never got so complicated that you couldn’t understand what was happening. Maybe the greatest episode of TV ever was “City on the Edge of Forever” and the time travel there is merely Kirk and Spock hopping through a big stone arch because they story is really about the tragedy of a doomed romance.
      For Marvel this was just a springboard for much more convoluted storytelling down the line that leaves everyone confused. Some things you can leave a mystery for future writers to explore. Time travel is a dangerous one though. It why Rowling initially decided to destroy all the time turners in Harry Potter’s fifth book so as to not be tempted by the prospect of muddying her ideas on consequence and death.

    • @leoultimaupgraded9914
      @leoultimaupgraded9914 3 місяці тому

      sure but I still think Endgame is a great ending to the MCU
      the fact that the MCU kept going afterwards sucked but Endgame is still a good movie to me even if Infinity War had more hype around it

  • @THEMAST3RARTISAN
    @THEMAST3RARTISAN 3 місяці тому +1

    56:05 was pure comedic timing. Shit was hilarious😂

  • @andrewjalice8649
    @andrewjalice8649 3 місяці тому +1

    I don’t know I feel like some of the debate didn’t make sense cuz in the first antman movie it’s established that Hank Pym knows about the quantum realm but knows nothing about navigating it. He just knew if you went quantum you essentially die shrinking forever he didn’t perfectly understand it third movie. establishes that he’s been trying to go to the quantum realm and they finally figured out how to talk to his wife and she helps them navigate to her cuz she knows about navigating it better than Hank does of course and when there actually studying it that’s when they gets snapped

  • @spider-manunknown9193
    @spider-manunknown9193 3 місяці тому +3

    Avengers Endgame is a great solid 8/10 film. I’m agreeing with the one who says it’s good which I’m guessing it’s Colin, fyi I didn’t watch the full video yet because I’m currently at work. 😭 Endgame isn’t terribly written at all. It’s solid 8 at best.

    • @BirdsElopeWithTheSun09
      @BirdsElopeWithTheSun09 3 місяці тому

      Except for a few of the characters, it is very poorly written.

    • @leoultimaupgraded9914
      @leoultimaupgraded9914 3 місяці тому

      Not as great as Infinity War, but a solid ending to the MCU as a whole (ignore the movies after it besides Guardians Volume 3 and Deadpool and Wolverine)

  • @wibithefirst
    @wibithefirst Місяць тому

    Bucky actually was frozen and unfrozen when hydra needed to use him

  • @DylanWaters-l7d
    @DylanWaters-l7d Місяць тому

    Bucky was frozen in captain america winter soldier we hear zola say put him in the ice

  • @DylanWaters-l7d
    @DylanWaters-l7d Місяць тому

    The tony stark innovatived sounded like the he built this in a cave

  • @Astral76
    @Astral76 Місяць тому

    Let’s reset here for a second

  • @Hel334da
    @Hel334da 3 місяці тому

    Yes do more of these their hilarious especially the Batman origins 🤣

  • @nickreed3924
    @nickreed3924 3 місяці тому +2

    Why are we just so unwilling to give Tony Fucking Stark the benefit of the doubt that over the course of 5 years off screen he figured out how to make the time travel device at least work theoretically

    • @SuperNeos2
      @SuperNeos2 3 місяці тому +3

      Because he was done with everything after what happened in Infinity War. He had his daughter with Pepper and most likely retired as Iron Man to spend his days in his cabin raising his family.
      He had no reason to get back into superhero work until Scott came and showed him the Quantum Realm

    • @nickreed3924
      @nickreed3924 3 місяці тому +1

      @SuperNeos2 except he clearly wasn't. Tony is am obsessive personality type. So yeah, he chilled out and probably stopped going out as a superhero. But the dude still obsesses over problem and likely was thinking every single day about what he could do to fix things. This isn't out of character for him. And it even lines up with his conversation with pepper about wanting to throw his data into the lake and call it a day, hut they Noth know he could never sleep knowing he had the ability to help everyone and chose not to.

    • @aleysibbs2461
      @aleysibbs2461 3 місяці тому

      Tony stark a genius not surprise, he keeps on telling himself a genius.

    • @vaggos2003
      @vaggos2003 3 місяці тому

      This is you making the writong for the movie as well as making assumptions for events tgat the movie franes as never happening.@@nickreed3924

    • @vaggos2003
      @vaggos2003 3 місяці тому +1

      Because what you just described is an assumption and tge movie clearly implies that it didn't happen.

  • @Kto_ben_lv
    @Kto_ben_lv 3 місяці тому +4

    0:28 Not even a minute in 😂

  • @นายถังนํา้
    @นายถังนํา้ 3 місяці тому +2

    As a big Arkham Origins fan I can take L for the buggy problem or some building in new Gotham that can't be grapple which is stupid, only 4 assassins can be called real boss fight (Death Stroke, Bane, Firefly, Copperhead) Deadshot,Shiva is side quests Croc is tutorial gameplay and Electro Cutioner is a joke and the worst one for me is your skin change to default everytime you close the game which is super stupid
    Other than that is PEAK, realationship of Alfred and Bruce got a good conflict, the start of nemesis between Joker and Batman is great, shock glove is f ing awsome and so satisfy to punch through shield or stunt baton or counter them unlike in other game, and four bossfight is amazing fighting Death stroke without taken damage make me feel so fun and intense, Bane was a monster that make me feel like punching wall that can't be destroy, Firefly and Copperhead is challenging if you don't know the easy trick but it's still take some skill to beat them perfectly,Gordon and Batman as frienemy is good too
    But...
    The Joker reveal was kinda mid, it shouldn't be spoiled when we go to Lacey Tower
    The Blackgate prison got messy twice in one night is ridiculous
    that's it, that's everything I want to say about Arkham Origins as a big fan of it

    • @chandlerburse
      @chandlerburse 3 місяці тому

      @@นายถังนํา้ does colin really dislike Origins?
      My dude has such weird takes sometimes bro thinks Ragnarok has better puzzles than the OG GOW games

    • @MahNamJeff
      @MahNamJeff 2 місяці тому

      @@chandlerburseno, its his favorite game.
      maybe if you watched the video you would know that.

  • @GaelGamaa
    @GaelGamaa 3 місяці тому +5

    John2008 is a national Hero

    • @J0HN2008
      @J0HN2008 3 місяці тому +3

      Yep

    • @GaelGamaa
      @GaelGamaa 3 місяці тому +4

      @@J0HN2008 YOU ARE THE GOAT 🐐

    • @J0HN2008
      @J0HN2008 3 місяці тому +1

      @@GaelGamaa 🗿

  • @Amateur_Ambiance
    @Amateur_Ambiance 3 місяці тому +1

    A bear without teeth is called a gummy bear.

  • @FullCavGuy
    @FullCavGuy 3 місяці тому

    The second clip is just him yapping 💀
    Bro you aren't cooking, the food's roasted! Never let bro cook

  • @aleysibbs2461
    @aleysibbs2461 3 місяці тому

    True in Origins the main villains or most villains had some depth to him, even though we don't see Kriller cock more, he was suppose to be a body guard. Wish I seen Bane backstory though, he was someone who had develop Venom, had a feud with Batman since he was hired. Sure he took down Alfred and Bat Cave, but after that there nothing.

    • @chandlerburse
      @chandlerburse 3 місяці тому +1

      @@aleysibbs2461 Bane’s backstory is in the comics and we already know it from his bio

    • @chandlerburse
      @chandlerburse 3 місяці тому +1

      @@aleysibbs2461 bane did not develop venom

    • @Smadude
      @Smadude 3 місяці тому

      “Kriller cock”

  • @LincolnAKAVenox
    @LincolnAKAVenox 2 місяці тому

    That guy trying to justify a origin of a bad game might be one of the worst arguments I've ever heard low he never backed up any of his points and was kept making statements with nothing behind them

  • @JBMReaseBurner
    @JBMReaseBurner 3 місяці тому

    that endgame debate was too funny

  • @spider-jonah-man7148
    @spider-jonah-man7148 3 місяці тому

    That thumbnail is hilarious

  • @frogglen6350
    @frogglen6350 3 місяці тому

    Another bad thing about Arkham Origins
    Riddler doesn't get arrested or beat up after you do his collection nonsense. He just lazily disappears off screen despite setting up a bomb that murdered someone at the beginning of the game. Absolutely no reward at all besides a lame achievement. The other arkham games hilariously punished Riddler

  • @thegreatacolyt1277
    @thegreatacolyt1277 3 місяці тому +1

    Endgame is amazing

  • @Kit_VT
    @Kit_VT 3 місяці тому

    So like why isn't it seen as tony programmed the information to read the info that scott gave him.
    If scott gives 1/2 the info and tony gives 1/2 the info i really dont see the problem.

  • @lilvern9268
    @lilvern9268 3 місяці тому +1

    I want whatever the Origins guy was smoking ong

  • @stereokuuji
    @stereokuuji Місяць тому

    38:07
    Here's the thing though, for the Time GPS debacle......WHAT DO YOU THINK THE INITIAL TESTS WITH SCOTT WERE FOR
    (the gag where he comes back as a baby, a kid and an old man)

  • @stereokuuji
    @stereokuuji Місяць тому

    44:08
    Another misconception
    Stark was not simulating if time travel was possible, he didn't have to because of that fact that Scott was able to come back after 5 years but it feeling like 5 hours for him hence time travel already being proven
    What Tony was simulating was the safest way to travel through time using the Quantum realm, because he predicted that the others were gonna mess up(hence the Scott gag) and that's how he crated the time gps thingy which still had to be tested out hence the Hawkeye scene

  • @Zeal1103
    @Zeal1103 3 місяці тому +1

    Spidorman

  • @Martinmd12-zt7vu
    @Martinmd12-zt7vu 3 місяці тому +2

    I’m not making fun of you, but I just think it’s funny that we as humans argue about meaningless stuff like this. It’s fun

  • @scratcho.9980
    @scratcho.9980 Місяць тому

    The first guy just doesn't think there's anything unique about Origins that makes it stand out enough also they really don't like how the Joker is portrayed as more of a threat then the other villain even though Joker is Batman's main villain and literally the core baddie of the franchise.
    Next you and S.K. just talked passed each other for half an hour when the core disagreement was really something like is it possible to know how to build a gps for a location you have never personally observed or studied. And in a science fiction setting, the answer like you said is obviously yes. Probably a bit of an asspull if you compare fiction to reality but if you're gonna be a hardass about superhero movies following real world logic then half the shit Oscorp does is equally as impossible.

  • @IronDeficiencyMan
    @IronDeficiencyMan 3 місяці тому

    Chronos is cooking

  • @gurjapsarai
    @gurjapsarai 3 місяці тому

    Wait Colin why did you delete your why spider man ps4 is better than Arkham city?

  • @sageoverheaven
    @sageoverheaven 3 місяці тому

    As much as the first dude wasn't articulate, I didn't find your treatment of him very fair. Especially towards the end.

  • @frogglen6350
    @frogglen6350 3 місяці тому

    Yeah. The dude who said Arkham origins had no soul is correct. Why was Shiva even in the game? Shes boring and her boss is lazy. She's so worthless that this "elite" assassin was reduced to a side story. Killer Croc has more relevance than her. 😅

    • @chandlerburse
      @chandlerburse 3 місяці тому

      @@frogglen6350 yes we get it you hate origins
      Go join Under the Mayo

    • @neinja66469
      @neinja66469 3 місяці тому +1

      ​@@chandlerbursejust like UTM you can't seem to handle differing opinions
      All he said was "Shiva is worthless" and anybody who actually played it will tell ya "Shiva was a boss?" And that's a fair take - she's from the League of fuck'n Assassins and it did nothing for her - on top of that she got relegated to a 10-minute side story same way Black Mask did

    • @chandlerburse
      @chandlerburse 3 місяці тому

      @@neinja66469 dude most of this guys comments are him ragging on Origins he also doesn’t even make sense he said Origins was bad for having Bane fight with Goons but he excused Asylum for it

    • @chandlerburse
      @chandlerburse 3 місяці тому

      @@neinja66469 also i never said anything about shiva
      Shitty opinions get critcism
      Its not like Colin doesn’t shill for disappointing games like Spider Man 2 yet his fans are gonna rag on Origins?

  • @JBMReaseBurner
    @JBMReaseBurner 3 місяці тому +1

    5:18☠️

  • @hollow.fighter9929
    @hollow.fighter9929 2 місяці тому +1

    i have to agree captian america was character assassinated

  • @jobsidian4219
    @jobsidian4219 Місяць тому

    14:55

  • @LizardBrains
    @LizardBrains 3 місяці тому +2

    48:08 You both are not the son of Lucas because you too are negative 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000.02 the speed of light. Fu Stewart King and Cowardly Colin

  • @frogglen6350
    @frogglen6350 3 місяці тому

    Arkham Origins doesn't really accomplish anything special. Thats why it's never been remastered or ported to modern hardware. All the Arkham games did something special except origins.
    Best Combat: Knight wins
    Best enemy variation: Knight wins
    Best stealth and gadgets: Knight wins
    Best atmosphere: Asylum wins
    Best interiors: Pretty much every Arkham game did it better than Origins
    Best bosses: Arkham City. Origins ruined bane by having him fight with goons instead of being 1v1.
    Best gangs: Arkham City
    Arkham origins has the most boring open world ever. Arkham City and Knight have way more detail and easter eggs in their open worlds.
    Best DLC: Knight wins
    Best story: City wins. Origins takes no risk. Doesn't even kill off any valuable characters. Very safe game. We all know who lives since it's a prequel. Also the ending with Deathstroke goes absolutely no where. Oooh. Wow. Batman learns to team up with people and trust them. Joker and Batman are 2 sides of the same coin. So original. Thanks for wasting Black Mask, one of the most deadly gotham villains.

    • @chandlerburse
      @chandlerburse 3 місяці тому +2

      @@frogglen6350 origins ruined Bane by having him fight with Goons?
      Yet Asylum did the same thing except it was even worse
      And you do get a but of 1 on 1 with him and he has three bossfights in the game
      Why is there so much Origins hate.

    • @chandlerburse
      @chandlerburse 3 місяці тому

      @@frogglen6350 man colin does have bad takes hates Origins thinks Ragnarok has the best puzzles in the franchise
      Man dude needs to get it together

    • @frogglen6350
      @frogglen6350 3 місяці тому

      ​@chandlerburse
      Asylum had an excuse because it was the first game and the devs were still learning. Also it won goty while origins won nothing

    • @chandlerburse
      @chandlerburse 3 місяці тому

      @@frogglen6350 you’re literally just being spiteful
      And you’re forgetting the developers for Origins aren’t the same as the ones for Asylum

  • @aleysibbs2461
    @aleysibbs2461 3 місяці тому

    When I'm hearing this no offense to anyone who has these as opinions, but all these guys sound like haters. Sure Joker overuse but he pretty great villain for Batman.

    • @neinja66469
      @neinja66469 3 місяці тому

      On the other hand Black Mask is also a great villain and they set him up to be the big bad until Joker wormed his way into the plot

    • @chandlerburse
      @chandlerburse 3 місяці тому

      @@neinja66469 better plot twist than Knight

    • @neinja66469
      @neinja66469 3 місяці тому

      ​@@chandlerbursetbh they're both trash but Jason had more foreshadowing than the Joker who got namedropped in a *crime scene investigation* 💀💀

    • @chandlerburse
      @chandlerburse 3 місяці тому

      @@neinja66469 foreshadowing? It was forced and obvious at least they tried to hide the black mask twist

    • @chandlerburse
      @chandlerburse 3 місяці тому

      @@neinja66469 also good I WANT LESS FORESHADOWING THAT CAN RUIN THE TWIST
      FORESHADOWING DOESNT EQUAL GOOD WRITING

  • @Aguy14666
    @Aguy14666 3 місяці тому

    W

  • @stereokuuji
    @stereokuuji Місяць тому

    39:59
    No, the simulation is not the conclusion, it's the hypothesis, that still had to be tested out hence the Hawkeye scene

  • @iluellal.6115
    @iluellal.6115 3 місяці тому +2

    The first guy is the reason why we need communication & comprehension skills in all schools.

    • @J0HN2008
      @J0HN2008 3 місяці тому +1

      Who me?

    • @iluellal.6115
      @iluellal.6115 3 місяці тому +1

      @@J0HN2008 well...the first 3 ppl tbh