Even though what happened on H-day was a national tragedy,lets not forget what happened to the Ninja Turtles. Video is right here: ua-cam.com/video/1lgqDmZXdOA/v-deo.html
How about Steve Rogers wife cook chamomile and while he watches TV Sansa you know he is Captain America and he's a man and she's a woman how about she does the dishes too
The story they're telling and the way it's written is so compelling but the art is really something else. Feels like they have this impressionist hand making the imperfections but still managing to capture the essence of the golden era of Marvel. Really cool.
Every time I see people who love comics, but have not a damn idea on the switcheroo that marvel editors have done with Captain America, I will be compelled to comment on the video There was a great editor of marvel who is now deceased name, Mark Gruenwald. He wrote an edited Captain America books and was one of Marvel’s Star Wars. There are literal comic books that stated that the super soldier serum was never a drug, but in combination with the ions from the Vita rays, had immunogenic effect on Steve Rogers, that literally changed his body permanently. This meant, that he became the peak of human abilities. It also meant that the super soldier serum was not a drug. It was not something that can be on dead. It had a permanent effect on his human cellular structure. It also stated in that book that his body 100% metabolized that mitogenic agent and it is no longer in his system. In fact, it never was in his system. The super soldier serum and divider race in combination is not a drug that has to be present in order to have impact. That’s not how Captain America works. His whole body and being has been changed in much of the same way as the spider bite change Spider-Man into who he is . Changed his DNA. Countless things since that time, when marvel is governed by people who literally don’t know anything about the characters, throws all of that out the window
You are 100% right and I thought I was the only one who noticed! So many stories now revolve around Cap's super soldier serum "wearing off" or being affected in his blood (they had one story line with meth getting bonded to the super soldier serum in his blood!) when like you say it was gone shortly after his original treatment in 1942! His body was permanently changed by it and the Vita Rays.
Comics changing around their lore is nothing new. Sometimes the narrative is more important than the specifics of a story's power system. In this, it works well to cement the despair of the setting.
I've actually read a graphic novel (about 20 years ago?) in which an older Captain America in the future leads a resistance to stop a powerful young man (mutant?) who controls America, with assistance from an old man Cyclops (X-Men), Peter Parker, Hulk-like creature, etc.....
@@thatcomicsman hang on, I'll have to look it up, but I'd recognize the cover anywhere (there was a Spider-Man looking character whose face resembled a lizard's, among other characters)....
@@thatcomicsman okay, it was released as a series called "Earth X" from 1999-2000. Volume #4's cover has that lizard Spidey's face on it, I think. Very interesting to check out if you can.....
@@The_Blue_Otaku Because those are not the variables under consideration. For heroes, especially first string heroes, good morals are supposed to be given.
Cool story, great narration. You’be got a great reading/narrating voice. You know, that whole plot point with the Red Skull pretending to be someone else and using a fake identity to manipulate and subvert Iron Man’s son reminds me of what Lex Luther did to Superman’s son in the Superman Batman: Generations Elseworlds story. There really is nothing new under the sun.
Feels like a very weakened hulk since he has survived in space without air, and wouldn't it be Tony not bruce rejecting booze seeing his alcoholic history?
@@BloodyBaseballs6053 I know but even for someone like banner, that habit would be hard to drop especially if he doesn't know he wont hulk out in valhalla
the only thing i have to criticize is that the United States is not a democracy we are a CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC AND ALWAYS WILL BE WE ARE NOT A DEMOCRACY and i really wish that people would stop saying that we are its annoying
Okay anyone else getting "Project 2025" vibes here? Has Marvel been trying to tell us about this since long before "Winter Soldier".:. Just a thought 🤔.
Marvel, Amazon with The Boys, news media, newspapers, other movies and TV shows, music, and magazines. Literally ALL forms of media have been sounding warning bells for YEARS.
@thatcomicsman no, Davis is right. This story is very apropos to what's currently going on. People manipulated by the media to follow someone actively trying to destroy America from within and basically take away all of our rights.
Pretty sure the hulk has been pinned down by the mulnir ( i know its spelt wrong) and he just let it rip through him as he got up so yeah that's lazy writing
Ultron got done dirty sadly. Hulk clearly wasn't in control throughout his last fight with thor. And now steve rogers super soldier syrome is reduced to a medical tool. Love the story but damn it they really messed up any after stories involving this reality.
How did caps super serum wear off & he didn't revert back to normal size? The serum changed his owe dna... it shouldnt of never just left him.... Bull jive........
I think it works like steroids,if you are skinny and take steroids you get big and a lot of muscle,but one you stop taking them,you muscles decrease in size,but if you continue to workout and be active you never go full skinny again.You stay bigger than when you started.
The super soldier serum jump boosted his strength like crazy, and allowed him to reach limits that were higher than the limits of most people. Essentially, it’s jump boosted his strength, and increased just how strong he could get. As long as he continued to workout, he most likely wouldn’t get much weaker.
@@therandomnessstrikes1435 i think the person makes a reference to what happened in the movies,where Steve Rogers was a skinny little guy before the serum,and after he grew in height and size also
This hasn't been treated consistently in the comics; in some stories, its explicitly stated the formula will NOT wear off and Cap will enjoy an extended lifespan while retaining enhanced abilities; it others, the serum is purged from his system, canceling out some of his edges (strength a bit lower, subject to fatigue, no longer resistant to disease or toxins) but still remans an exceptionally large, fast, and strong man; then there are stories that have him either age rapidly (but still retain a muscular physique) without the serum, or have him shrink down to his previous skinny size but remain young. Honestly, over the years, different writers have ignored previous stories and just did what they wanted at the time.
Even though what happened on H-day was a national tragedy,lets not forget what happened to the Ninja Turtles. Video is right here: ua-cam.com/video/1lgqDmZXdOA/v-deo.html
How about Steve Rogers wife cook chamomile and while he watches TV Sansa you know he is Captain America and he's a man and she's a woman how about she does the dishes too
What’s the name of this book/series/mini series?
What's a good Avengers story without Tony trying to sacrifice himself by taking a nuke/explosive with him to the space.
The signature Ironman move.
In this case at least,he tried to save his son
Did you actually catch the ending... thats basically what happened.
@@GetFitEatRightthat is what the comment was talking about
I love how tony is in valhalla. That epic
Man this is such a great story, I would love to see this adapted in animation or the big screen, the story was so compelling, I was completely hooked
I loved every minute of it,and the art was top notch
@@thatcomicsman your narration was amazing
Imagine this is Chris Evans movie
Knowing Disney, there's a chance that the story will be changed in a bad way
@@NZP208 sad
Cap basically became the Dark Knight
thats Captain Dark Knight my friend
Can’t wait for Marvel to acknowledge Spidey as the Arach-Knight.
More like Kingdom Come Superman
@@Bluecollarjoe6B9 one of my future videos
The American Crusader
Wait, the hammer on Hulk at the bottom of the ocean is actually a really smart idea.
The hard part is taking hulk into the ocean.
The Hulk should have been able to slide out downward and sideways from under Mjolnir never lifting it.
@@2036velvalco if you have a heavy car on top of you,are you able to slide sideways?
@@thatcomicsman Namor could handle that part.
Tbf Hulk could've just...tore the ground a new one and let it roll off of him thereafter.
They need to make this into a full length film or a miniseries....
A mini series would be amazing
They would just make an agatha series again
This is what the world is now, but without the happy ending 💀
But man, poor iron man cant catch a break,he always dies in the end
Not yet
Happy ending and it's actually the some nepotist 🤡 who caused most of it playing hero after the world is brought to its knees, what a load
Truer words have never been spoken, except for the last bit, for we currently live the ending, just dont know its outcome yet.
The story they're telling and the way it's written is so compelling but the art is really something else. Feels like they have this impressionist hand making the imperfections but still managing to capture the essence of the golden era of Marvel. Really cool.
I though so too,I like art where the characters are detailed and real
About the people getting brainwashed by media forgetting about the past. I wonder why that sounds familiar.
seriously. as soon as media coverage ends about major events, everybody forgets, ukraine and russia is a big one
Every time I see people who love comics, but have not a damn idea on the switcheroo that marvel editors have done with Captain America, I will be compelled to comment on the video
There was a great editor of marvel who is now deceased name, Mark Gruenwald.
He wrote an edited Captain America books and was one of Marvel’s Star Wars.
There are literal comic books that stated that the super soldier serum was never a drug, but in combination with the ions from the Vita rays, had immunogenic effect on Steve Rogers, that literally changed his body permanently.
This meant, that he became the peak of human abilities. It also meant that the super soldier serum was not a drug. It was not something that can be on dead. It had a permanent effect on his human cellular structure. It also stated in that book that his body 100% metabolized that mitogenic agent and it is no longer in his system. In fact, it never was in his system.
The super soldier serum and divider race in combination is not a drug that has to be present in order to have impact. That’s not how Captain America works. His whole body and being has been changed in much of the same way as the spider bite change Spider-Man into who he is . Changed his DNA.
Countless things since that time, when marvel is governed by people who literally don’t know anything about the characters, throws all of that out the window
Great info
You are 100% right and I thought I was the only one who noticed! So many stories now revolve around Cap's super soldier serum "wearing off" or being affected in his blood (they had one story line with meth getting bonded to the super soldier serum in his blood!) when like you say it was gone shortly after his original treatment in 1942! His body was permanently changed by it and the Vita Rays.
Comics changing around their lore is nothing new. Sometimes the narrative is more important than the specifics of a story's power system.
In this, it works well to cement the despair of the setting.
"Multiverse" - Marvel's "fix-all".
Thanks. I needed this from you. Reminds me of Comicstorian. May he rest well.
They saved a venom symbiote
This was such a great read. One of the best runs i've read in a while.
The artstyle was amazing
8:22 feeling batman vibes in that one pic at this point.Youll know when u see it.
I've actually read a graphic novel (about 20 years ago?) in which an older Captain America in the future leads a resistance to stop a powerful young man (mutant?) who controls America, with assistance from an old man Cyclops (X-Men), Peter Parker, Hulk-like creature, etc.....
Do you remember the name of the novel?
@@thatcomicsman hang on, I'll have to look it up, but I'd recognize the cover anywhere (there was a Spider-Man looking character whose face resembled a lizard's, among other characters)....
@@thatcomicsman okay, it was released as a series called "Earth X" from 1999-2000. Volume #4's cover has that lizard Spidey's face on it, I think. Very interesting to check out if you can.....
@@peterparquer1873 It looks amazing,gonna have to read it someday and make a video.Thanks a lot!
@@thatcomicsman 👍
Luke is the real MVP
Huh? Luke didn't do anything in this story.
However, I have always been a fan of Luke Cage, Power Man! 👍
@@pike100he old... but he was the catalyst.
"Everything is fine, now that Thor... And Ms. Marvel... are here!"
"Everything is fine, now that Superman and GREEN ARROW are here!"
I really like the guy who narrated this whole comic story.
this story just screams kingdom come in a good way
12:05 "I prayed" goes hard
hardest
Wish we had Roger's irl
Someone said that Captain America is the Superman of the Marvel universe
Power wise, no. Respect and status wise, yes.
@@MrSteeljazz Why not both power and good morals
We do! His name is John Cena
@@The_Blue_Otaku Because those are not the variables under consideration. For heroes, especially first string heroes, good morals are supposed to be given.
I love the avengers so much. I love America too.
Some eagle is screaming somewhere in the background 😂
@@thatcomicsman i heard hydra has Oil
@@CharelsMartelTheHammer 😂😂
Omg this is a crazy awesome art-style, I LOVE it!
same,its so retro
I literally cried. Closed my eyes, good bye Tony. Than boom. Tony definitely had a heart.
Cute that they rescued Venom, Spideys old friend
@@erob9446 "rescued
Tony looks like walt Disney at the end
Cool story, great narration. You’be got a great reading/narrating voice. You know, that whole plot point with the Red Skull pretending to be someone else and using a fake identity to manipulate and subvert Iron Man’s son reminds me of what Lex Luther did to Superman’s son in the Superman Batman: Generations Elseworlds story. There really is nothing new under the sun.
Thanks a lot. Check out my last video on the House of M,I tweaked the voice and the story is so good
They did the Red Skull thing in Avengers EMH.
@@thomasdeen2099 I remember that. Great series.
One of my favorite newer comic stories
They need to give Zdarsky the next Cap run, I bet he could match Brubaker's without problem.
is this yet another future-end-of-the-Avengers story?
the story and the art is something else
Welcome to 2024.
its nice to be here
This is such a great story, and the art is amazing
Its part of a new series of comic books from this year,amazing.
I’m really digging the art style in this series
It was masterfull
This was a very old-school avengers story and I'm kinda realizing that we don't get a lot of those anymore.
It has a distinctive vibe which i liked
This is like the boys but a bit less edgy and I like it. The corporatization and loss of the meaning of heroes is there, but none of the weird edge
Is this Marvel's version of DC's Kingdom Come?
unofficial
Marvel’s version of Kingdom Come was called Marvels.
Janet being in the ring is pretty lazy and weird but this is a great story. Love the art.
I havent read comics in a long time. What graphic novel, or comic series was this? I'd like to get my hands on it.
Avengers Twilight. Everything is in the description
frickin arts gorgeous
I though so too,apparently some people hate it 😕
Feels like a very weakened hulk since he has survived in space without air, and wouldn't it be Tony not bruce rejecting booze seeing his alcoholic history?
Bruce doesn't drink because he loses control and hulks out, hes been hulk for like 30 years so doesnt want to risk it
They're literally in the afterlife where all you do is drink. If you're not like Banner, I don't think a drink or two would hurt
@@BloodyBaseballs6053 I know but even for someone like banner, that habit would be hard to drop especially if he doesn't know he wont hulk out in valhalla
Awesome story 👏 🙌
red skull just pulled the doctor doom moment on the avengers, sheesh
8:07 is that a hell diver?
Had all 6 issues or however many came out. Good ass fucking story and the art, mannnnnnn😮💨
Anyone else see venom at 12:48?
no
Tony is a recovering alcoholic. Now that he's dead and in Valhalla, he must be overjoyed to be able to drink to his heart's content.
Alcoholics dream
26:21 - Stark and Banner together again
For ever
This was epic
Yes it was!
Stupid question, but is this part of the 616?
As always tony is the only one makes sacrifice play 😂
At least here he was the only one there,Thor was busy with Hulk,and the captain was stabbed
Captain america: The TRT soldier
Testestorone Cap
Why is the weakest link in front
RED SKULL and his ways/ ideas reminds me of some other rich leader🤔
Bruce order non alcohol drink in Valhalla is hilarious
12:53 IS THAT VENOM???
Looked like it
What is the story called?
Avengers Twiligh, it's in the description 🎉
@@h1roshema must be going blind. Thanks!
What is the name of this Comic volume?
Avengers Twilight the details are in the description
Tony trying to sacrifice himself by taking a nuke/explosive with him to
the only thing i have to criticize is that the United States is not a democracy we are a CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC AND ALWAYS WILL BE WE ARE NOT A DEMOCRACY and i really wish that people would stop saying that we are its annoying
Okay anyone else getting "Project 2025" vibes here? Has Marvel been trying to tell us about this since long before "Winter Soldier".:. Just a thought 🤔.
Marvel, Amazon with The Boys, news media, newspapers, other movies and TV shows, music, and magazines. Literally ALL forms of media have been sounding warning bells for YEARS.
Show me where in project 2025 is anywhere close to this. The Left is the one who controls the media and government
honestly, just sounds like regular america to me
This is basically The Incredibles. No surprise that no one reads American comics anymore. Rehashing the same crp over and over again.
the dark knight returns is a more fair comparison
Was there ever a origin of “H Day”?
No,this is just a standalone story
Jan being in the ring and Hulk drowning are far stretched and added only to help the plot.. understandable
What comic?
Avengers Twilight.Everything is in the description
Please make the ,movie
You need to wait untill Steve Rogers is old
17:57 Oh my God Hilary but it's any real life Spring lawsuit yeah no f****** I no more.
kinda wish this will be naimated in a sort of special like next avengers
Yes, "Project 2025" vibes for sure!! Likely, the story is likely set in 2045!!😉
You mean 2021 lol This happened just a few years ago :D
@thatcomicsman no, Davis is right. This story is very apropos to what's currently going on. People manipulated by the media to follow someone actively trying to destroy America from within and basically take away all of our rights.
12:53 Symbiote?!
Yup,looked like one
Comic name - Captain America: Civil War
So, water is Hulk's weakness ? After all years of destroying everything, it takes drowning to stop the hulk
Wait! King Thor doesn't wield the Odin Force? He should be unstoppable!
I dont think this story is cannon,not everything has to make sense to be a good story.
I think comics have been pretty shit for many years but every once in a while you get really good stuff like Spider-Man Life Story and this
The art looks pretty good too. What is this in?
what do you mean?
Gotta feel bad for the hulk man, mind controlled and forced to kill so many of his friends :(
You should watch my other video with Hulk and Thanos, where Hulk was forced to eat the Avengers
This story gives me the same vibes as the avengers game
Was the Game nice?
@@thatcomicsman yea (the 2020 one)
Avengers Twilight was
B.O.M.B!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Cant argue here
i could see this as a movie.
Old Captain America kinda looks like Bruce Thomas
Lore of Old Steve Rogers Becomes Captain America Again and Assembles The Avengers momentum 100
So he basically the dark knight returns
Pretty sure the hulk has been pinned down by the mulnir ( i know its spelt wrong) and he just let it rip through him as he got up so yeah that's lazy writing
I hope the day never comes where we see normal people try and justify the actions of such a villainous organization
This is VERY topical...
Watching this on August 13
Ultron got done dirty sadly. Hulk clearly wasn't in control throughout his last fight with thor. And now steve rogers super soldier syrome is reduced to a medical tool. Love the story but damn it they really messed up any after stories involving this reality.
This is Avengers Twilight 2024
Yup,the details are in the description
18:12 Donald Noooo!!!!
No hes...the...good...knight...as...in...good...protecting the...innocent...and...everyone to the best of their...respected...abilities...
Thor has always been Marvel's equivalent to Superman,and ofcourse,the God of entrances. I loved Captain America's line "I prayed" when Thor arrived.
Much better story than Old Man Logan
Old man logan was great man,i have a video on my channel on this.
Tbh I agree, old man Logan is way too bleak and depressing for me. This seems like a really cool old man cap story
was ironmans wife asleep in the ring? i also hate the character of ironmans son for everything hes done lol. also how did iron man lose his head
Iron mans wife was in the ring. Tony lost his body after H day,when the humans turned on the heroes and attacked him
@@thatcomicsman okay, but was his wife asleep in the ring? Also did the government decapitate tony
How did caps super serum wear off & he didn't revert back to normal size?
The serum changed his owe dna... it shouldnt of never just left him....
Bull jive........
I think it works like steroids,if you are skinny and take steroids you get big and a lot of muscle,but one you stop taking them,you muscles decrease in size,but if you continue to workout and be active you never go full skinny again.You stay bigger than when you started.
@@thatcomicsman yeah... but steroids don't make you grow from 5'7 to 6'4 & allow you to be frozen in ice for 70+ years......😐
The super soldier serum jump boosted his strength like crazy, and allowed him to reach limits that were higher than the limits of most people. Essentially, it’s jump boosted his strength, and increased just how strong he could get. As long as he continued to workout, he most likely wouldn’t get much weaker.
@@therandomnessstrikes1435 i think the person makes a reference to what happened in the movies,where Steve Rogers was a skinny little guy before the serum,and after he grew in height and size also
This hasn't been treated consistently in the comics; in some stories, its explicitly stated the formula will NOT wear off and Cap will enjoy an extended lifespan while retaining enhanced abilities; it others, the serum is purged from his system, canceling out some of his edges (strength a bit lower, subject to fatigue, no longer resistant to disease or toxins) but still remans an exceptionally large, fast, and strong man; then there are stories that have him either age rapidly (but still retain a muscular physique) without the serum, or have him shrink down to his previous skinny size but remain young. Honestly, over the years, different writers have ignored previous stories and just did what they wanted at the time.
Pardon me, I thought the Hulk can’t die
you are excused
Written by the Karate Kid.
Why would the Avengers ever want/need a new Thor? That would really piss off the real Thor.
Reminds me of the patriot act