I read "Pony". I think "Furry". Now going to watch the rest of the video. Lets see if I was right. €dit: LOL Well that was 'degenerated' alright but not in the usual direction.
@@thexorcerer5677 I edited my other post. What can I say? Wooow this girl has trash-relatives. Her brother totally wanted to bully her for her appearance obviously and her father seemed to enjoy seeing her suffer too. What for trash people. But hey thats what we here for. To see Lord Critcrab expose those who deserve nothing but a place in Hell apparently. Not for eternity necessary, but damn... ^^
I’m a Brony and I agree, Bronies can be really fucked up. I’m pretty lucid to the toxicity of the fandom so I hope you never get the cringey kind, who I unfortunately had to deal with.
I came here expecting to kink-shame a brony but instead watched in silent horror as 3 stories of a young girl being emotionally abused and traumatized by her brother and father were recounted in a painfully matter-of-fact way.
Honestly now that Hasbro did make a version of D&D based on mlp, you have all the right for kinkshaming if a brony act as one in normal D&D, and this comes from a brony
@@RealCoolstriker64 basically Hasbro which owns Wizards of the Coast created a DnD version based in the land of equestria, where you can do whatever you want as a brony while still playing DnD, plus there are lots of other not oficial versions of pathfinder and other big TTRPG's made by bronies for bronies if they want to experience them as a pony or other species from the show. So... yeah... if you're a brony and decided to play the non brony version of the game then you do not act on your kinks
Yeah, no kidding. I swear watching this feels like _I'm_ the one being tormented - and with the purposes to drive me away from the game. I can't see how you do this sort of shit to an 11 year old girl who just wants to join in your game, and NOT be doing it expressly to torture her out of the game. You're either enacting "tough love" sentiments to an extreme in a GAME, or you're actively trying to kill off all desire for her to join. Just smacks of _"We were told we can't disallow you from the family event, but we don't want you here at all. This is a MEN'S THING and we are doing FATHER SON stuff, and you should not be here female CHILD. We will now enact the horrible shit to torment you, as an indirect and passive-aggressive way to make you not want to be here at all, thus solving our issue with you being here."_ Ick.
@@bakaichigo I've just realised that an off moment right at the start where op says her family "Finally let me play" actually feeds into your theory really well
As a parent, as a formally chubby girl child, and as a human being this story is so upsetting and I hope OP is now at a point where she can choose to step away from her abusers. That's what it was. Abuse.
@@evillee420 I know you're probably trolling but Body Dysmorphia is a thing so yes, making someone play as a thing they don't want to when already struggling with body issues can be a form of abuse. Especially because it's clear her brother systematically and continually used his power over her to torment her.
Hi CritCrab, it’s the original OP here, thank you for reading my stories! I wouldn’t exactly call them a trilogy, but of all the ones I wrote, these are probably the three I would want the most people to read (Snake Eyes the pony in particular.) I must say, despite writing these with great ambition, I’m still blown away by their popularity and it doesn’t feel 100% real to see them featured on various channels. I just wanted to take a moment to thank you for your words, getting the support I have received from so many people after posting these has been immeasurable helpful. I’ve definitely had to cope with a lot over the years-but I must admit that seeing an angry crab when talking about my dad and brother has warmed my heart a bit. All in all, no matter how bad these stories got, it never stamped out my passion for ttrpgs and I can assure everyone that I’m with good people now. Thanks a lot. Cheers :)
Dude your family are straight up abusers and you should keep a distance as much as possible! I have been playing for 15 years AT LEAST and I have never heard of anyone as toxic a DM as your brother.
Hey op glad you found a better group of people to be around for end, as I'm not going to lie your dad and brother are sick and toxic bastards to do those things to a little kid let alone to kin who were just starting dnd, and I find it very appalling that your brother would torture you like that in the second story. The reason for saying that is I can relate to you with my first experiences with dnd, being introduced by my dad who was a very disturbed dm
You can't choose your family, but you can choose who you play D&D with. I'm glad you've been able to make that choice, and that the people you're playing with now are better to you. And as a girl who's also had body issues, I get you on the need to want to play a more aspirational character. ...Fittingly, for me, that's *also* taken the shape of half-elf ladies of predominantly high-INT or high-CHA classes.
@@TitaniaBird you absolutely can choose your family, by having respect for one's self and saying 'No more'. Cross my boundaries and blood won't save you. It's not this eternal unbreakable contract where you have to forgive every single abuse because they share similar genes. Fuck that. Love and respect is earned.
Me: Jesus Christ what is wrong with that brother that he would string up a pony like that.... Dad: Gleefully tortures a baby animal just to force his daughter to euthanize it and make her cry. Me: Never mind.
@@GoblinHours-im2ue Sorry, bad wording on my part, I meant the part where he gutted and strung up the dead pony so she could find it later. Like, fuck, the pony was already gone at that point, showing its dead body is just spiteful and cruel.
Oh hey a fellow Sam. Hello stranger. I agree whole heartedly. I'm pretty sure that no one in my ENTIRE FAMILY would ever tolerate the behavior on display in this story, myself included...
@@samwhary5498 I feel especially sorry since I know how that feels. My family is like that aswell. My mother is extremely impulsive and whatever she says, no matter how wrong she is, is ok or accepted as beeing right. It's super annoying especially when you know you are right and just want to have fun. I dont even want to know what that game would have looked like with my family.
Yep, followed by where he can stick his female dwarf fighter (no offense intended to anyone who likes playing female dwarven characters :) ). These assholes are the epitome of "Better no D&D than Bad D&D".
I was going to say her dad might not be one, but I thought about how horrified I was at the thought of a father describing in vid detail what he decided happened. You're right. That was entertainment for him.
"They didn't want to rock the boat." People that don't want this are often wrong. OP's brother and dad let their worst out during D&D while her uncle and cousin watch on. They don't wanna get involved in drama, but that just leads to driving people away or turn them into barely functional adults. It doesn't help by letting it happen; it only makes it worse.
they don't want to rock the boat, but they fail to realize that they're already in a storm and the boat's being constantly swallowed by the waves only to be spit back out, over and over. By "rocking the boat", they're not actually rocking it, they're steading it. By doing nothing, are they rocking the boat.
It pains me that people can be so rotten towards their own family, D&D is a game that lets you become whoever or whatever you want within a given rule set. If you're forced to play a character you dislike or are irritated by remember, no D&D is better than bad D&D.
Right? Especially since the family member in question is a child. It's one thing to mess with your other adult sibling, although I would not go as far as this, but OP was 11 holy shit.
Just got to the end of the first story and fuck that is disgusting. You don't do that to new players, much less kids. You freaking nurture their interest and try to make it as fun as possible. Screw that guy.
@@KumaoftheForest As a DM I strongly oppose that rule. I recommend the party to have a healer, or to have someone that can heal, but I don't require it due to being railroaded in the past to play the "healstick." My rules are; no electronics at the table (when in person,) or no video games/movies/music (when playing online,) and no irl drama unless it's an emergency (we don't want to hear about your dating life especially if your recent ex is also one of the players.)
just my opinion but I think OP should have chosen race. Gender was probably the least impact one as even if she did choose it then the DM could just give her masculine features (which he did).
I hope OP goes NC on her toxic family. They need to learn that “not rocking the boat” still has consequences. If a vessel is going up shit creak, then it’s going up shit creak no matter how neutral it’s riders are.
Always makes me incredibly sad when people get treated like this by their own family. This is straight up bullying and emotional abuse, I agree that I would like to know what the dad's idea of parenting is if he finds it hilarious to make his own child intentionally cry. To OP, I hope you are doing good nowadays.
Does anyone else feel like these three stories are a sort of microcosm for the INTENSE emotional abuse this girl probably suffered at the hands of her family?
I feel like I need to hear a wholesome D&D story of hers just to know if she's doing alright now. Her family's behavior left me genuinely shaking, no one should have to go through shit like that ever, let alone in D&D, and especially as a kid.
She's actually replied in the comments of this video, just above! She's glad to see the awareness and story spready, though she feels the experience of seeing these videos surreal, and is still playing D&D and has friends and all! She's doing well, it seems, and is grateful for all the support she's been getting (recapping her reply, for your ease, but it should be easily found above as one of the most replied-to comments of this video). :)
As the saying originally goes, "The blood of the covenant is thicker than the water of the womb." And that's even accounting for how thick-headed the OP's brother and father are. Here's hoping she's found a better group of people to play with. A family by covenant, if you will.
"Friends are the family you choose, family are the strangers you live with."- garterbelt Never have I ever heard a truer words uttered in a otherwise unapologetic adult oriented comedy, well aside from the sage wisdom of futurama.
That bear story could have went so good and would've made players love their DM if some other actions were taken. For instance, maybe the bear fell down but the players couldn't see the bottom of the pit, so they wouldn't know the bear's fate. They'd go through the dungeon wondering what happened to poor Teacup, then they'd find it wounded somewhere, but not dead and within the capabilities of the party healer. That would be fucking amazing.
Ever wonder about "that guy" and what kind of life they come from to be like that? Turns out they are born like that and there are whole families of "that guy", and that what is like to born into a family like that, when you are not yourself "that guy".
What... the... FUCK. Oh my god. This was so horrible that it actually made me sad, *_and i'm a grown-ass adult ._. HOW COULD SOMEONE DO THIS TO A KID?!?!_*
Can we just take a moment to appreciate how badass the name Snake Eyes is for a pony. Thats amazing and I'm definitely using it for my own pony my future character now must have
Ugh, I feel so sorry for OP. I know what it's like. Though my family isn't quite as sociopathic they all have that "don't rock the boat" mentality, and hell I'd probably be guilt tripped if this kind of shit happened to me and I had a meltdown and left. Hope OP's gone no contact by now, fuck them.
@@tronche2cake People will make anything about gender or race etc. but i don’t think the original comment really meant it in a gendered way, I think they were just trying to say “why didn’t the adults do anything?” And since they’re all men they just said “why didn’t the men do anything?”
Ya know, I questioned why you were so gendered in your argument at the start, but by the end, I have to ask the same question. Why are all the men in this poor little girls life such complete dicks? I feel bad now and hope she found at least one decent male in her life. We are out there, I swear. Cheers. (-:
I hope this girl is safe now and making good decisions. Growing up in this kind of family can lead kids to depression and to getting into abusive relationships when they become adults. Big hugs her way.
This story makes me so grateful for my childhood DMs, both of them teachers from my school. I was six when I played my first DnD game and I know now the rules were simplified for us to be able to grasp so that we could focus on having fun and I cherish those memories to this day!
I cannot believe this poor girls father and uncle were not interefering with the bullying. I would not have been able to notice this behavior in my child and just let it happen. Though I guess if the brother was in his 20s he was already a lost cause. A-class parenting, seriously.
You forget the father was just as bad if not worse emotionally with how he purposefully gave OP Teacup, then brutalized it in great detail to a child and insinuated it was her fault then *made* her kill it. The whole family (except OP) is so far beyond rotten.
@@kudoro1357 You are right, I wrote that comment before the end of the video because I was so upset. After that third story I was no longer wondering how that brother could have turned out like that.
This family would make me cry all the time, I’m such a sensitive person and it’s sounds like this girl is too and she was just getting bullied the whole time without being able to do something about it
This video f****** broke my heart. I only started playing about a year ago and was fortunate to have an absolutely amazing group which made me fall in love with D&D. These stories just made me want to give that little girl a hug and DM an amazing story for her where she could befriend all the animals she wanted as a beautiful, charismatic, female Half-elf Bard.
Jeez what the hell? I remember being an awkward 13 year old girl and a soft hearted 12 year old girl. I have to imagine that dad and bro in this story must have been abusive in other ways because that is absolutely too sadistic in all three cases to spring on a little girl without preamble.
I understand sometimes wanting to shock my players in a sense. To give them that, 'oh crap, this is getting real' moment. It sounds to me like maybe the brother and the dad were both really into that. But the thing about it is it's got to depend on the party. It's one thing to do it with adults where everyone was ready for the game to be serious at times. Doing it this way though, with a young girl who just wanted to have fun and is easily taken to tears by these actions? Not cool, man. Not cool. I hope that someone already has or will someday soon lay a verbal smack down and call the brother and the dad out on their crap.
Kudos to this lady for still wanting to play D&D, with family like that I would've quit forever and assumed the worst about TTRPGs. That brother is a weasel btw, imagine your family ignoring you bullying a little girl just because you're that much of an annoying taint-wipe.
Jesus...the first story was bad. But the second one...that's vile. The dad was also just bad, but the brother is an outright bastard. Though, these stories make me feel better when I have to say "no" to my players because they want to play half-demons or have magic items (in Call of Cthulhu, where everything the players start with is supposed to be mundane), because I have an actual reason to say no and don't restrict them from having fun just because I don't like it.
I mean you could pull off the half-demon shit as long as the individual does not know in any shape or form their parentage so everything remains mundane at the start and use that half-blood as a plot point later. It could lead to a very interesting storytelling experience if done well, but may as well ruin the mood if done badly.
@@diablo.the.cheater In any other setting - yes. But sadly, not in Call of Cthulhu. At least not to me. While there are possibilities for a "half-human/half-eldritch monstrosity" (like Deep One Hybrids or the player being the mutated, disgusting offspring of an Old One), there's no believable way for a player to be the "half-demon"-type the player was describing. It's a horror-setting where anything not human is a disgusting abomination beyond our comprehension, most of these half-humans lose the bit of humanity they had with the years simply due to their inhuman origin. And adding a type of "demon"-race, whose human offspring does not immediately make animals want to kill them and wouldn't make regular humans uneasy around them just doesn't fit the setting. The only believable option would be a Deep One-Hybrid, as they actually start as generic humans but turn into horrible fish-men during their teenage years/early adulthood and lose their humanity bit by bit due to the urge to return to the underwater cities of the Deep Ones. And I would be actually down for that, even giving said player the stats for a Hybrid instead of a regular human (under the restriction, that his character becomes less and less human with the years, constantly losing sanity due to the call of the Deep Ones and is upsetting to look at), though there are two problems: 1. I didn't get the chance to actually talk with that player. I only talked to them over the phone once and the moment I had to shut down the half-demon thing, he immediately went "Well then I have no idea, goodbye". I would at least offer him the Deep One-Hybrid option. 2. As it's Call of Cthulhu, there's a good chance his character won't see to live the plot-point where his urge to return to Y'ha-nthlei (or some other underwater city), as it's a deadly game. Even as a very soft DM, who actually tries to not kill their players every second, there were very close calls when I underestimated the power of a monster and almost killed one of my players. (he only lived du to me being soft and letting the monster waste it's second attack) Just as a reference - the average CoC character has around 10 HP - the most basic gun to everyone available does 1d10 damage. While there are ways to survive lethal damage, healing any damage is a time consuming process unless you use magic. (and magic is very rare and dangerous to use in the setting)
I wasn't even five minutes in before I thought "F**k this guy." He should never be allowed to DM, period. He's a bully and a jerk, and he has more issues than a Barnes and Noble magazine rack. But by the time we got to the third story, I was like "Oh, flush the whole damn family except OP."
About to go play d&d with my friends for my first time. Gonna get a horse and name it Snake Eyes in honor of this hell story, and he'll be a good boah.
I can see where the brother gets his abusive skill set from. Those two were emotionally abusive to a terrifying degree and I hope op had gotten away from them.
Moving beyond DnD for a moment (cardinal sin I know), this brother sounds like a straight up abuser in need of some serious counselling. Speaks to deeper problems in this family dynamic.
i saw the word pony and thought this was going to go a whole different way, also hope the person who wrote that story confronted her brother when she was older
This makes me want to run a game for OP where those two end up being the BBEG's and Snake Eyes and Teacup turn out to be arch druids that faked their deaths to help a half-elf bard realize that sometimes those claiming to be gods are really just pathetic wastes of the matter it took to give them form.
It feels like this family has a personal dedication to assure that at all times the OP doesn't get to have any animal companions whatsoever. Just like the kid have an RP pet, holy shit.
That guy is a bully and just terrible for being so to a little kid. What a disaster. The dad’s own behaviour might be why his son, too, is so sadistic.
Speaking of feminine tank characters... My favorite character i ever made is named Erika Hawke. She's a beautiful badass with a very dorky side. Kinda a loveable dork who hits like a cannon. A fighter/wizard multiclass. Probably also my most well thought out character who i still love to play to this day.
Well after finding out what the father was like, it's no wonder OP's brother was so awful. She said her father didn't like being mean to players for fun but I'd respectfully disagree given her story about Teacup. That was intentional infliction of pain to an 11 yr. The son definitely learned it from him, but wasn't as good at hiding it
I really feel for this OP. Dnd has been a special place because of how empowering it can be to be able to make choices. Some people ride high on taking choices from other people. I had a similar introduction to the game.
I will never understand anyone who thinks treating animals, even fictional ones, like that is funny or an okay thing to do, especially in front of a child who you are FULLY AWARE is attached to said animal. This family is fucking twisted, and OP is brave as hell for sticking through all of that.
Your closing remarks tied in well to my AL experience last night. Got two new players that clearly are middle school kids. First off the mom met with me and made sure it would be a safe place for them so good job parenting. Both kids brought good energy albeit questionable decision making but the other players helped them out. We're running Strahd so I put in a fun Strahd encounter and threw a fight at the end with some zombies and a revenent in. Both of them got kills and they were beyond excited. I really feel this is how kids should be introduced to the hobby and the community and I'm really sad it's often the opposite. RIP Snakeeyes
It is a brave and honorful act to share such a story. A way to deal with the demons of the past. She clearly found a way to seperate those bad experiences from "how it should be" - a nice time where everyone enjoys the heck out of themselves in a group of loved ones, sharing the same love. I would LOVE to hear about her current group! - Im cretain that she has a great time now!
Every storyteller (GM in this case) has their thing that they like to do to characters - it gets magnified in D&D because the characters are being played by real people and being trolled about by a real person
This is so horrifying and sad to see, especially as someone who had an amazing dad who made really fun solo campaigns just for me as a little girl. We didn't have anyone else to play a proper party, but my dad was such a great DM, he knew just how to adjust everything so my character could be the badass loner who didn't need a party. I was about the same age as this girl (12-13), and I remember how fun the sessions were, how he let me have some of the coolest loot ever, and let me (and even helped) make super interesting and special characters. He encouraged me to think of creative solutions to the problems my character had to face which was necessary, as my elf ranger was completely on her own. These stories just remind me of how wonderful my dad was and how much I miss him. Every little nerdy girl deserves a DM dad like him.
Hi im a 13 yo girl and hearing this breaks my heart and i now see how good my family is twards me i personally love playing dnd with my family iv been playing for somewhere around 3-ish years now and i am very grateful for how nice and caring my family is.
Honestly fam, stories like this is why my husband and I run a beginner friendly DnD group at our local library (we moved our group online for the pandemic). We both love tabletop rpgs, and we wanted to give people who wanted to give it a chance a fair shot at a positive experience. I hope OP is doing better and has found herself a better family and a better DnD group.
Yeesh! I know my family tends to roll their eyes whenever I mention D&D stuff, but they will at least help me out when there's a book I want - Christmas was kind of funny because my Step-mother chatted with my mother and was like "Listen, he's mentioned wanting that Tasha's book, so me and J1 will buy it for him", only she forgot to talk to my Uncle J4 (let's just say that my father and uncles all start with J), and his wife - J4 and his wife got me Tasha's, and then, when my stepmother and father arrived, she noticed me reading it, and was like "Um, which one is that?" I'm like "Tasha's. Uncle J4 and his wife got it for me - told them about it at Thanksgiving." She was like "We got the same one." They had. Luckily, I already had a plan for that, and thus gave one of them to a buddy who wants to play 5e. As for the buddy, he used to play 3.5, and while he does admit that he thinks that 5 got simpler with the rules, he also admits that there'd always be a point where characters, especially Fighters, got a +18 to hit, no matter what. I might need to explain Belts of Giant Strength and the like to him..... then again, he only has the PHB and TCoE. Belated update - aforementioned friend now has the Monster Manual and the Dungeon Master's Guide.
I've only had a DM make characters for a campaign once, and it was a campaign of all newbies and it was more to show us how it's done. We got to suggest races and classes and he explained what combos might work best and such. It wasn't a control thing to bully us, wtf???
I recall on the reddit posts op seemed to indicate that her elder brother was basically the families golden child. And because of that I feel like he's a natural sociopath and instead of intervening or addressing that he was given a free pass to indulge in that.
@@pinchman2946 I think it's less that he's a natural sociopath and more that he was raised by a man who taught him that belittling others is the object of DMing (and most likely life in general).
I’m 30 and I’d be distraught if anything happened to my character’s pony or tiger cub. What is with these grown men mutilating and killing an eleven year old’s pets?! What the heck?!
This is exactly why I stopped playing literally anything with my dad and brothers. My dad was usually the instigator in my case, but he'd goad my brothers into being jerks as well, all while steam-rolling over anything I tried to say or do. The rest of the family just always let it happen, even when I was driven to tears. It sucks when your own family is more toxic than any stranger on the street. I hope OP is doing better and is able to stand up for herself, or at least cut ties with those toxic family members. Unfortunately people like that rarely ever understand why they're wrong so it's usually best to just cut them out of your life.
It's a rare for a story to make me quite as angry as that second story. Really crossed the line from 'Bad DM' to straight up bullying. As the Crab said, one has to wonder what was going on in this guy's life that he felt the need to treat his 13-year old sister like that.
Honestly, thank Gog this family had D&D as an outlet. I can only imagine what this girls life could have been like without D&D being the channel for abuse instead of something else.
This story is really upsetting to me. My little brother is eight years younger than me, and I always tried to involve him in multi-player games that I'd play. The idea that someone would be so psychologically abusive to a young family member like that is INFURIATING. These people are clearly abusive sadists, and I hope they either grew as people, or are sad and alone by now.
Seriously this brother is a bad brother. Even I wouldn’t do that to him and he drives me up the walls. I’m also a big supporter of helping new players. I am like that in video games
This actually makes me glad my dad has always been too jockish to like things like D&D. I’m 30 and my brother is 19 (our youngest brother is 15 but we have yet to convince him to join us.) and we play sessions together and sessions with other friends. He was just telling me his bear companion almost died in his last friend game and was saying how it would really hurt him if he lost that character or his bear. I couldn’t imagine treating my brothers the way this dad or brother treated OP as a child. That bear from the 3rd story was just plan disturbing. But I also totally can relate to the family that “never talks about their issues or problematic behavior.”
idk about yall but I friggin love dwarf ladies with beards. They're not ugly and I get where this girl is coming from, but calling bearded ladies ugly kinda sucks? I DM'd for a bearded dwarf lady (druid) who was awesome and ended up pretty much saving all dwarves from extinction in her campaign!
My mother loves to say you should love and forgive family because "They're family!" This brother is one of many examples of why that ethos is bad and can have long lasting mental health effects on younger family members
There are three types of people who say you should always forgive abusive family, because they're family 1. People with a good family, who can't understand nor grasp the concept of abusive family members, and thus project their own positive one onto others 2. The abusive family member 3. Relatives who doesn't wanna like shit for still worshiping said abusive family member
That said made sense in a long-forgotten time, the reason you forgive them because "They're family!" was because it was a time of vested interests where you needed to belong to a group, camaraderie was needed, and the de facto group you are born it is your family, and those family "bonds" had to be strong enough to maintain sometimes the peace between countries, so an abuser was better than someone that causes ripples in the family and makes people decide if to side with the abuser or the victim, the status quo had to be maintained at the expense of everyone. That is the origin of that type of mentality, basically, middle ages mentality where without a family you were screwed up, and family bonds served as international treaties, so that kind of mentality was needed to survive, this mentality can be even be traced down to the origins of society where a tribe may as well be a big family. But now is not yesterday and for sure today is not the middle ages, so that mentality is outdated as fuck, it was never a good mentality but a necessary evil mentality to start with, so now that it is no longer necessary, is just an evil mentality.
I had friends in college who described this kind of behavior from their family. It was usually played as a joke but considering how f'd up they were it explained. Great example was a friend who, grin plastered on face, constantly told stories of how his dad emotionally manipulated him and caused at least several public meltdowns that he, the child and son, was punished for. No surprise, friend loved emotionally manipulating people in the friend group and had a preference toward lying to emotionally vulnerable people.
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Big fan critcrab emperor of the crabs
Hi Crit Crab love ur crown bro :3
I read "Pony".
I think "Furry".
Now going to watch the rest of the video. Lets see if I was right.
€dit: LOL
Well that was 'degenerated' alright but not in the usual direction.
@@FreedomAndPeaceOnly So uhhhh, what were your thoughts at the end of it?
@@thexorcerer5677
I edited my other post.
What can I say? Wooow this girl has trash-relatives.
Her brother totally wanted to bully her for her appearance obviously and her father seemed to enjoy seeing her suffer too. What for trash people.
But hey thats what we here for.
To see Lord Critcrab expose those who deserve nothing but a place in Hell apparently.
Not for eternity necessary, but damn... ^^
Not the kind of pony problem I expected, but this isnt Neckbeardia.
*Irish noises*
I am both disappointed and relieved at the same time.
Also because thisbis probably from Reddit and not 4chan
Same
I’m a Brony and I agree, Bronies can be really fucked up. I’m pretty lucid to the toxicity of the fandom so I hope you never get the cringey kind, who I unfortunately had to deal with.
I came here expecting to kink-shame a brony but instead watched in silent horror as 3 stories of a young girl being emotionally abused and traumatized by her brother and father were recounted in a painfully matter-of-fact way.
Honestly now that Hasbro did make a version of D&D based on mlp, you have all the right for kinkshaming if a brony act as one in normal D&D, and this comes from a brony
@@Mr-__-Sy *what?*
@@RealCoolstriker64 basically Hasbro which owns Wizards of the Coast created a DnD version based in the land of equestria, where you can do whatever you want as a brony while still playing DnD, plus there are lots of other not oficial versions of pathfinder and other big TTRPG's made by bronies for bronies if they want to experience them as a pony or other species from the show. So... yeah... if you're a brony and decided to play the non brony version of the game then you do not act on your kinks
@@Mr-__-Sy takahata101 did a one shot with this system.
Same dude... same.
family: **does this shit**
also family: hmm why did they cut us off the minute they moved out?
Right?
Yeah, no kidding. I swear watching this feels like _I'm_ the one being tormented - and with the purposes to drive me away from the game. I can't see how you do this sort of shit to an 11 year old girl who just wants to join in your game, and NOT be doing it expressly to torture her out of the game. You're either enacting "tough love" sentiments to an extreme in a GAME, or you're actively trying to kill off all desire for her to join. Just smacks of _"We were told we can't disallow you from the family event, but we don't want you here at all. This is a MEN'S THING and we are doing FATHER SON stuff, and you should not be here female CHILD. We will now enact the horrible shit to torment you, as an indirect and passive-aggressive way to make you not want to be here at all, thus solving our issue with you being here."_ Ick.
Every. Damn. Time.
Exactly
@@bakaichigo I've just realised that an off moment right at the start where op says her family "Finally let me play" actually feeds into your theory really well
As a parent, as a formally chubby girl child, and as a human being this story is so upsetting and I hope OP is now at a point where she can choose to step away from her abusers. That's what it was. Abuse.
I just want to know who hurt those guys... and offer my services in punching them in the throat.
Fuck those assholes.
"you made me play as a dwarf so you're abusing me" LOL you must have been abused so hard you got brain issues
@@evillee420 Kinda ironic for a sociopath to condemn others for supposed mental issues, don't you think?
@@zeyode oh yeah? pee poop weener
@@evillee420 I know you're probably trolling but Body Dysmorphia is a thing so yes, making someone play as a thing they don't want to when already struggling with body issues can be a form of abuse. Especially because it's clear her brother systematically and continually used his power over her to torment her.
Hi CritCrab, it’s the original OP here, thank you for reading my stories! I wouldn’t exactly call them a trilogy, but of all the ones I wrote, these are probably the three I would want the most people to read (Snake Eyes the pony in particular.) I must say, despite writing these with great ambition, I’m still blown away by their popularity and it doesn’t feel 100% real to see them featured on various channels.
I just wanted to take a moment to thank you for your words, getting the support I have received from so many people after posting these has been immeasurable helpful. I’ve definitely had to cope with a lot over the years-but I must admit that seeing an angry crab when talking about my dad and brother has warmed my heart a bit.
All in all, no matter how bad these stories got, it never stamped out my passion for ttrpgs and I can assure everyone that I’m with good people now.
Thanks a lot. Cheers :)
Dude your family are straight up abusers and you should keep a distance as much as possible!
I have been playing for 15 years AT LEAST and I have never heard of anyone as toxic a DM as your brother.
@@SuperG3cko I agree with you and I do keep my distance now.
Hey op glad you found a better group of people to be around for end, as I'm not going to lie your dad and brother are sick and toxic bastards to do those things to a little kid let alone to kin who were just starting dnd, and I find it very appalling that your brother would torture you like that in the second story. The reason for saying that is I can relate to you with my first experiences with dnd, being introduced by my dad who was a very disturbed dm
You can't choose your family, but you can choose who you play D&D with. I'm glad you've been able to make that choice, and that the people you're playing with now are better to you.
And as a girl who's also had body issues, I get you on the need to want to play a more aspirational character. ...Fittingly, for me, that's *also* taken the shape of half-elf ladies of predominantly high-INT or high-CHA classes.
@@TitaniaBird you absolutely can choose your family, by having respect for one's self and saying 'No more'.
Cross my boundaries and blood won't save you. It's not this eternal unbreakable contract where you have to forgive every single abuse because they share similar genes. Fuck that. Love and respect is earned.
Me: Jesus Christ what is wrong with that brother that he would string up a pony like that....
Dad: Gleefully tortures a baby animal just to force his daughter to euthanize it and make her cry.
Me: Never mind.
In dnd you need to string them up so they don’t run away, I agree you shouldn’t in real life but still
@@GoblinHours-im2ue Sorry, bad wording on my part, I meant the part where he gutted and strung up the dead pony so she could find it later. Like, fuck, the pony was already gone at that point, showing its dead body is just spiteful and cruel.
Right!? Like well that explains how the brother got to be that way; if that is his father
Family of full-on sociopaths.
@@campernocamping1 Possibly psychopaths.
this person's family sucks, i feel so sorry for them
Oh hey a fellow Sam. Hello stranger. I agree whole heartedly. I'm pretty sure that no one in my ENTIRE FAMILY would ever tolerate the behavior on display in this story, myself included...
@@samwhary5498 I feel especially sorry since I know how that feels. My family is like that aswell. My mother is extremely impulsive and whatever she says, no matter how wrong she is, is ok or accepted as beeing right. It's super annoying especially when you know you are right and just want to have fun. I dont even want to know what that game would have looked like with my family.
@@Shyress the best I can offer you is a well wish and pointing out that you fortunately don't have to find out.
Your pfp is the best i have seen so far the mighty opossum greatest animal
@@samwhary5498 no normal family would allow this, wether it’s a simple game or something more serious this is just something a family shouldn’t do.
If OP's brother threw my characters backstory in the trash he would be following it shortly.
He probably didn’t need to throw it far, since he’s already trash.
I would just walk out. I have many times.
Yep, followed by where he can stick his female dwarf fighter (no offense intended to anyone who likes playing female dwarven characters :) ). These assholes are the epitome of "Better no D&D than Bad D&D".
@@mikedethlefs6326 yeah, the whole family sounds like a bunch of douche bags for not speaking up
You're gentle.....I would have thrown him down the stairs
That's a family of bullies. I hope she's no longer in contact with them
Well, they're not all bullies. Some of them are enablers.
@@15oClock that’s just a different type of bully
I was going to say her dad might not be one, but I thought about how horrified I was at the thought of a father describing in vid detail what he decided happened.
You're right. That was entertainment for him.
She isn't, she's cut them all out, except her older sister
@@MiraTheWarlock good. No one needs that kind of toxicity, especially from family
*slides a character sheet blank except for her being a half-elf bard* you dropped this
Oh, and your character has an animal companion. It's a fey being disguised as a normal beast so it's immortal. Hope that's okay?
Also there's a spectral bear with a halo and angel wings that appears to you every night to give you inspiration for your bard songs.
I love you three, kind strangers ❤
These are things that must be
Bipity boppity, this Nymph is now your property.
HOW DOES THE DAD THINK IT'S OKAY TO BULLY HIS ELEVEN YEAR OLD DAUGHTER INTO CRYING?
dont know man, its just awful
Something something "it's not real, grow up"
"What makes you think you get to decide?"
"Literally every other time I've played?"
And damn why he is talking like that to a 13 year old? He better not get a girlfriend at all.
I imagined him getting such a power trip from that sentence.
"They didn't want to rock the boat." People that don't want this are often wrong. OP's brother and dad let their worst out during D&D while her uncle and cousin watch on. They don't wanna get involved in drama, but that just leads to driving people away or turn them into barely functional adults. It doesn't help by letting it happen; it only makes it worse.
Yeah, and on top of that not wanting to "create drama" tends to lead to more drama, more so if people like this are involved
You don’t stop a gaping, bleeding wound by ignoring it. But far too many try this anyway.
they don't want to rock the boat, but they fail to realize that they're already in a storm and the boat's being constantly swallowed by the waves only to be spit back out, over and over. By "rocking the boat", they're not actually rocking it, they're steading it. By doing nothing, are they rocking the boat.
It pains me that people can be so rotten towards their own family, D&D is a game that lets you become whoever or whatever you want within a given rule set. If you're forced to play a character you dislike or are irritated by remember, no D&D is better than bad D&D.
My brother is similar to the brother in this stories..... I am now the dm lol things go better
Some of us even have to go so far as disowning them and not speak to them for over 8 years :P lol
Right? Especially since the family member in question is a child. It's one thing to mess with your other adult sibling, although I would not go as far as this, but OP was 11 holy shit.
Just got to the end of the first story and fuck that is disgusting. You don't do that to new players, much less kids. You freaking nurture their interest and try to make it as fun as possible. Screw that guy.
Update after watching the full video.... Fuck these dudes. God I don't think I've ever wanted to punch somebody more.
It gets so much worse
My only rule when starting a campaign as a DM, someone has to be a healer
Yea you nuture their interest, Get them invested, create the horse as a new family member and emotional crutch, THEN hang kill and gut it. Like jeesh
@@KumaoftheForest As a DM I strongly oppose that rule. I recommend the party to have a healer, or to have someone that can heal, but I don't require it due to being railroaded in the past to play the "healstick."
My rules are; no electronics at the table (when in person,) or no video games/movies/music (when playing online,) and no irl drama unless it's an emergency (we don't want to hear about your dating life especially if your recent ex is also one of the players.)
Dear God this is nightmarish, experiences like this would typically ruin DnD for a new player.
This would ruin someone's life not there dnd capability
Dwarf Shieldmaidens are bae, ngl.
*describes her long thick beard making his sister cry*
Wtf dude
just my opinion but I think OP should have chosen race. Gender was probably the least impact one as even if she did choose it then the DM could just give her masculine features (which he did).
I hope OP goes NC on her toxic family. They need to learn that “not rocking the boat” still has consequences. If a vessel is going up shit creak, then it’s going up shit creak no matter how neutral it’s riders are.
They did
Eeeeeeyup. Amen to that.
None of these DM's should be allowed to DM again.
While I agree, I also think that bad DMing is the least heinous thing going on here.
By "DM again" I think you mean "be allowed to walk freely down the street".
Always makes me incredibly sad when people get treated like this by their own family. This is straight up bullying and emotional abuse, I agree that I would like to know what the dad's idea of parenting is if he finds it hilarious to make his own child intentionally cry. To OP, I hope you are doing good nowadays.
Honestly the fact that he's even called a dad is an insult to father's everywhere.
F in chat for Snake Eyes. He may have been a stupid stubborn animal, but he was OUR stupid stubborn animal.
Does anyone else feel like these three stories are a sort of microcosm for the INTENSE emotional abuse this girl probably suffered at the hands of her family?
^^^^
I'm always impressed when someone has a horror story when they first play, but still find a good party after, instead of giving up on dnd.
the ones who gave up didn't get to post them on dnd related social media
I feel like I need to hear a wholesome D&D story of hers just to know if she's doing alright now. Her family's behavior left me genuinely shaking, no one should have to go through shit like that ever, let alone in D&D, and especially as a kid.
She's actually replied in the comments of this video, just above! She's glad to see the awareness and story spready, though she feels the experience of seeing these videos surreal, and is still playing D&D and has friends and all! She's doing well, it seems, and is grateful for all the support she's been getting (recapping her reply, for your ease, but it should be easily found above as one of the most replied-to comments of this video). :)
As the saying originally goes, "The blood of the covenant is thicker than the water of the womb." And that's even accounting for how thick-headed the OP's brother and father are.
Here's hoping she's found a better group of people to play with. A family by covenant, if you will.
"Friends are the family you choose, family are the strangers you live with."- garterbelt
Never have I ever heard a truer words uttered in a otherwise unapologetic adult oriented comedy, well aside from the sage wisdom of futurama.
@Bold it doesn’t.
@@watcherofmemelords7967 So, friends are the strangers that you choose to live with?
That bear story could have went so good and would've made players love their DM if some other actions were taken. For instance, maybe the bear fell down but the players couldn't see the bottom of the pit, so they wouldn't know the bear's fate. They'd go through the dungeon wondering what happened to poor Teacup, then they'd find it wounded somewhere, but not dead and within the capabilities of the party healer. That would be fucking amazing.
Ever wonder about "that guy" and what kind of life they come from to be like that? Turns out they are born like that and there are whole families of "that guy", and that what is like to born into a family like that, when you are not yourself "that guy".
What... the... FUCK.
Oh my god. This was so horrible that it actually made me sad, *_and i'm a grown-ass adult ._. HOW COULD SOMEONE DO THIS TO A KID?!?!_*
Can we just take a moment to appreciate how badass the name Snake Eyes is for a pony. Thats amazing and I'm definitely using it for my own pony my future character now must have
I'm amazed that OP doesn't have a burning hatred for all things DnD after going through that. That's fucked up man.
Ugh, I feel so sorry for OP. I know what it's like. Though my family isn't quite as sociopathic they all have that "don't rock the boat" mentality, and hell I'd probably be guilt tripped if this kind of shit happened to me and I had a meltdown and left. Hope OP's gone no contact by now, fuck them.
Can we talk about how NONE of the men do anything to help? They sat there and watched an adolescent girl be emotionally abused and DID NOTHING.
Yeah this isn't just bad d&d, this is a genuinely messed up family. Hope she escaped the dysfunction somehow.
yeah, that's really fucked up!
_why do the genders matter tho_
@@tronche2cake People will make anything about gender or race etc. but i don’t think the original comment really meant it in a gendered way, I think they were just trying to say “why didn’t the adults do anything?” And since they’re all men they just said “why didn’t the men do anything?”
Ya know, I questioned why you were so gendered in your argument at the start, but by the end, I have to ask the same question. Why are all the men in this poor little girls life such complete dicks?
I feel bad now and hope she found at least one decent male in her life. We are out there, I swear.
Cheers.
(-:
@@tronche2cake because these men were adults and the girl was technically a minor child. The adults should protect the child.
I hope this girl is safe now and making good decisions. Growing up in this kind of family can lead kids to depression and to getting into abusive relationships when they become adults. Big hugs her way.
This story makes me so grateful for my childhood DMs, both of them teachers from my school.
I was six when I played my first DnD game and I know now the rules were simplified for us to be able to grasp so that we could focus on having fun and I cherish those memories to this day!
ELEVEN YEARS OLD. Gosh, that poor girl.
this sounds like the kind of family where the parents dont get calls from their kids after they move out
Well, the dad explains the brother. Is poster adopted? Holy cow this family is messed up.
I cannot believe this poor girls father and uncle were not interefering with the bullying. I would not have been able to notice this behavior in my child and just let it happen. Though I guess if the brother was in his 20s he was already a lost cause. A-class parenting, seriously.
You forget the father was just as bad if not worse emotionally with how he purposefully gave OP Teacup, then brutalized it in great detail to a child and insinuated it was her fault then *made* her kill it. The whole family (except OP) is so far beyond rotten.
@@kudoro1357 You are right, I wrote that comment before the end of the video because I was so upset. After that third story I was no longer wondering how that brother could have turned out like that.
This family would make me cry all the time, I’m such a sensitive person and it’s sounds like this girl is too and she was just getting bullied the whole time without being able to do something about it
Jesus christ, i think im a bad brother sometimes but these make me realize I'm not that terrible
last time i was this early ross wasn't exiled from society
This video f****** broke my heart. I only started playing about a year ago and was fortunate to have an absolutely amazing group which made me fall in love with D&D. These stories just made me want to give that little girl a hug and DM an amazing story for her where she could befriend all the animals she wanted as a beautiful, charismatic, female Half-elf Bard.
Jeez what the hell? I remember being an awkward 13 year old girl and a soft hearted 12 year old girl. I have to imagine that dad and bro in this story must have been abusive in other ways because that is absolutely too sadistic in all three cases to spring on a little girl without preamble.
I understand sometimes wanting to shock my players in a sense. To give them that, 'oh crap, this is getting real' moment. It sounds to me like maybe the brother and the dad were both really into that.
But the thing about it is it's got to depend on the party. It's one thing to do it with adults where everyone was ready for the game to be serious at times. Doing it this way though, with a young girl who just wanted to have fun and is easily taken to tears by these actions? Not cool, man. Not cool.
I hope that someone already has or will someday soon lay a verbal smack down and call the brother and the dad out on their crap.
I can't believe they actually let OP's 21+ year old brother do all that stuff with the pony. What the actual-?!
Kudos to this lady for still wanting to play D&D, with family like that I would've quit forever and assumed the worst about TTRPGs.
That brother is a weasel btw, imagine your family ignoring you bullying a little girl just because you're that much of an annoying taint-wipe.
I wish there was more stories where people fought back against the That Guys. It gets depressing when all the stories end in them running away crying
Jesus...the first story was bad. But the second one...that's vile. The dad was also just bad, but the brother is an outright bastard.
Though, these stories make me feel better when I have to say "no" to my players because they want to play half-demons or have magic items (in Call of Cthulhu, where everything the players start with is supposed to be mundane), because I have an actual reason to say no and don't restrict them from having fun just because I don't like it.
That father is abusive and should not be anywhere near children
I mean you could pull off the half-demon shit as long as the individual does not know in any shape or form their parentage so everything remains mundane at the start and use that half-blood as a plot point later. It could lead to a very interesting storytelling experience if done well, but may as well ruin the mood if done badly.
@@diablo.the.cheater In any other setting - yes. But sadly, not in Call of Cthulhu. At least not to me.
While there are possibilities for a "half-human/half-eldritch monstrosity" (like Deep One Hybrids or the player being the mutated, disgusting offspring of an Old One), there's no believable way for a player to be the "half-demon"-type the player was describing. It's a horror-setting where anything not human is a disgusting abomination beyond our comprehension, most of these half-humans lose the bit of humanity they had with the years simply due to their inhuman origin. And adding a type of "demon"-race, whose human offspring does not immediately make animals want to kill them and wouldn't make regular humans uneasy around them just doesn't fit the setting.
The only believable option would be a Deep One-Hybrid, as they actually start as generic humans but turn into horrible fish-men during their teenage years/early adulthood and lose their humanity bit by bit due to the urge to return to the underwater cities of the Deep Ones. And I would be actually down for that, even giving said player the stats for a Hybrid instead of a regular human (under the restriction, that his character becomes less and less human with the years, constantly losing sanity due to the call of the Deep Ones and is upsetting to look at), though there are two problems:
1. I didn't get the chance to actually talk with that player. I only talked to them over the phone once and the moment I had to shut down the half-demon thing, he immediately went "Well then I have no idea, goodbye". I would at least offer him the Deep One-Hybrid option.
2. As it's Call of Cthulhu, there's a good chance his character won't see to live the plot-point where his urge to return to Y'ha-nthlei (or some other underwater city), as it's a deadly game. Even as a very soft DM, who actually tries to not kill their players every second, there were very close calls when I underestimated the power of a monster and almost killed one of my players. (he only lived du to me being soft and letting the monster waste it's second attack)
Just as a reference - the average CoC character has around 10 HP - the most basic gun to everyone available does 1d10 damage. While there are ways to survive lethal damage, healing any damage is a time consuming process unless you use magic. (and magic is very rare and dangerous to use in the setting)
Wow. The brother needs the life changing experience of picking his teeth up from the floor.
I wasn't even five minutes in before I thought "F**k this guy." He should never be allowed to DM, period. He's a bully and a jerk, and he has more issues than a Barnes and Noble magazine rack. But by the time we got to the third story, I was like "Oh, flush the whole damn family except OP."
About to go play d&d with my friends for my first time. Gonna get a horse and name it Snake Eyes in honor of this hell story, and he'll be a good boah.
I'm very surprised she is a normal and caring person in such a sick family. Major props to her.
I can see where the brother gets his abusive skill set from. Those two were emotionally abusive to a terrifying degree and I hope op had gotten away from them.
Moving beyond DnD for a moment (cardinal sin I know), this brother sounds like a straight up abuser in need of some serious counselling. Speaks to deeper problems in this family dynamic.
I think I would rather never play DnD until I moved out. "No DnD is better than bad DnD" or traumatizing DnD for that matter...
i saw the word pony and thought this was going to go a whole different way, also hope the person who wrote that story confronted her brother when she was older
*she
I'm literally halfway through and I can't finish watching this, I'm so full of rage on OP's behalf.
These stories almost made me cry, I won't lie.
This makes me want to run a game for OP where those two end up being the BBEG's and Snake Eyes and Teacup turn out to be arch druids that faked their deaths to help a half-elf bard realize that sometimes those claiming to be gods are really just pathetic wastes of the matter it took to give them form.
It feels like this family has a personal dedication to assure that at all times the OP doesn't get to have any animal companions whatsoever. Just like the kid have an RP pet, holy shit.
I hope this OP fled from her “family” and found a new better one somewhere far, far away. JFC, what a nightmare childhood.
This dude isn't just a bad DM, he's a terrible person to have at the table!! I'm very sorry OP felt she had to put up with that.
That guy is a bully and just terrible for being so to a little kid. What a disaster.
The dad’s own behaviour might be why his son, too, is so sadistic.
Speaking of feminine tank characters... My favorite character i ever made is named Erika Hawke. She's a beautiful badass with a very dorky side. Kinda a loveable dork who hits like a cannon. A fighter/wizard multiclass. Probably also my most well thought out character who i still love to play to this day.
Well after finding out what the father was like, it's no wonder OP's brother was so awful. She said her father didn't like being mean to players for fun but I'd respectfully disagree given her story about Teacup. That was intentional infliction of pain to an 11 yr. The son definitely learned it from him, but wasn't as good at hiding it
I really feel for this OP. Dnd has been a special place because of how empowering it can be to be able to make choices. Some people ride high on taking choices from other people. I had a similar introduction to the game.
Can't even watch the rest of this video halfway through the second part. That brother is a massive Nobend
The third part is about her FATHER
@@Pointlesschan I'm glad I haven't watched it then. That family are disgusting human beings and should not be allowed to ever play or DM a game ever
I will never understand anyone who thinks treating animals, even fictional ones, like that is funny or an okay thing to do, especially in front of a child who you are FULLY AWARE is attached to said animal. This family is fucking twisted, and OP is brave as hell for sticking through all of that.
Your closing remarks tied in well to my AL experience last night. Got two new players that clearly are middle school kids. First off the mom met with me and made sure it would be a safe place for them so good job parenting. Both kids brought good energy albeit questionable decision making but the other players helped them out. We're running Strahd so I put in a fun Strahd encounter and threw a fight at the end with some zombies and a revenent in. Both of them got kills and they were beyond excited. I really feel this is how kids should be introduced to the hobby and the community and I'm really sad it's often the opposite. RIP Snakeeyes
"what makes you think you get to decide?"
*well there's the fucking player's handbook...*
It is a brave and honorful act to share such a story. A way to deal with the demons of the past. She clearly found a way to seperate those bad experiences from "how it should be" - a nice time where everyone enjoys the heck out of themselves in a group of loved ones, sharing the same love. I would LOVE to hear about her current group! - Im cretain that she has a great time now!
OP emulating their older brother by getting a pony is bloody adorable. I would be so quietly smug about it. Oh, to be looked up to...
Every storyteller (GM in this case) has their thing that they like to do to characters - it gets magnified in D&D because the characters are being played by real people and being trolled about by a real person
This is so horrifying and sad to see, especially as someone who had an amazing dad who made really fun solo campaigns just for me as a little girl. We didn't have anyone else to play a proper party, but my dad was such a great DM, he knew just how to adjust everything so my character could be the badass loner who didn't need a party. I was about the same age as this girl (12-13), and I remember how fun the sessions were, how he let me have some of the coolest loot ever, and let me (and even helped) make super interesting and special characters. He encouraged me to think of creative solutions to the problems my character had to face which was necessary, as my elf ranger was completely on her own.
These stories just remind me of how wonderful my dad was and how much I miss him. Every little nerdy girl deserves a DM dad like him.
These dms are bigger monsters than the orcs they want slain
Bold of you to assume they want the orcs slain.
@@watcherofmemelords7967 that's fair.
"I THROW A ROCK AT GOD!"
Hi im a 13 yo girl and hearing this breaks my heart and i now see how good my family is twards me i personally love playing dnd with my family iv been playing for somewhere around 3-ish years now and i am very grateful for how nice and caring my family is.
i’m so happy for you!!!
Honestly fam, stories like this is why my husband and I run a beginner friendly DnD group at our local library (we moved our group online for the pandemic). We both love tabletop rpgs, and we wanted to give people who wanted to give it a chance a fair shot at a positive experience. I hope OP is doing better and has found herself a better family and a better DnD group.
After hearing the story about the dad, it makes sense that the older brother would turn out like that.
Damn, good for OP for persevering in the face of crappy relatives.
Yeesh! I know my family tends to roll their eyes whenever I mention D&D stuff, but they will at least help me out when there's a book I want - Christmas was kind of funny because my Step-mother chatted with my mother and was like "Listen, he's mentioned wanting that Tasha's book, so me and J1 will buy it for him", only she forgot to talk to my Uncle J4 (let's just say that my father and uncles all start with J), and his wife - J4 and his wife got me Tasha's, and then, when my stepmother and father arrived, she noticed me reading it, and was like "Um, which one is that?" I'm like "Tasha's. Uncle J4 and his wife got it for me - told them about it at Thanksgiving." She was like "We got the same one." They had. Luckily, I already had a plan for that, and thus gave one of them to a buddy who wants to play 5e.
As for the buddy, he used to play 3.5, and while he does admit that he thinks that 5 got simpler with the rules, he also admits that there'd always be a point where characters, especially Fighters, got a +18 to hit, no matter what. I might need to explain Belts of Giant Strength and the like to him..... then again, he only has the PHB and TCoE.
Belated update - aforementioned friend now has the Monster Manual and the Dungeon Master's Guide.
I've only had a DM make characters for a campaign once, and it was a campaign of all newbies and it was more to show us how it's done. We got to suggest races and classes and he explained what combos might work best and such. It wasn't a control thing to bully us, wtf???
how neglectful were the brother's parents for him to end up like this?
Did you even read the last story? They probably encouraged the brothers behavior.
I recall on the reddit posts op seemed to indicate that her elder brother was basically the families golden child. And because of that I feel like he's a natural sociopath and instead of intervening or addressing that he was given a free pass to indulge in that.
@@pinchman2946 I think it's less that he's a natural sociopath and more that he was raised by a man who taught him that belittling others is the object of DMing (and most likely life in general).
@@onekthmatt That's a def possibility, but with just the few stories we have its hard to verify any of our theories.
Snake Eyes is a sick name for a pony, FIGHT ME!
This whole family, save for OP, is awful. 'Nuff said.
My heart goes out to Snake Eyes and Teacup. Strahd himself would sneer at these DMs, believing them to go beyond torment even by his standards.
I’m 30 and I’d be distraught if anything happened to my character’s pony or tiger cub. What is with these grown men mutilating and killing an eleven year old’s pets?! What the heck?!
This is exactly why I stopped playing literally anything with my dad and brothers. My dad was usually the instigator in my case, but he'd goad my brothers into being jerks as well, all while steam-rolling over anything I tried to say or do. The rest of the family just always let it happen, even when I was driven to tears. It sucks when your own family is more toxic than any stranger on the street. I hope OP is doing better and is able to stand up for herself, or at least cut ties with those toxic family members. Unfortunately people like that rarely ever understand why they're wrong so it's usually best to just cut them out of your life.
It's a rare for a story to make me quite as angry as that second story. Really crossed the line from 'Bad DM' to straight up bullying. As the Crab said, one has to wonder what was going on in this guy's life that he felt the need to treat his 13-year old sister like that.
Sometimes there is no reason and people can be jerks for no reason.
Honestly, thank Gog this family had D&D as an outlet. I can only imagine what this girls life could have been like without D&D being the channel for abuse instead of something else.
This story is really upsetting to me. My little brother is eight years younger than me, and I always tried to involve him in multi-player games that I'd play. The idea that someone would be so psychologically abusive to a young family member like that is INFURIATING.
These people are clearly abusive sadists, and I hope they either grew as people, or are sad and alone by now.
Seriously this brother is a bad brother. Even I wouldn’t do that to him and he drives me up the walls. I’m also a big supporter of helping new players. I am like that in video games
Good to see that there are other wheel of time fans in the dnd community...
poor little girl :(
but the fact that she is talking about it like that shows that it made her stronger
bless you little princess
i wish the people in these stories would suddenly be aware of what the internet thinks of them for a brief moment
This actually makes me glad my dad has always been too jockish to like things like D&D. I’m 30 and my brother is 19 (our youngest brother is 15 but we have yet to convince him to join us.) and we play sessions together and sessions with other friends. He was just telling me his bear companion almost died in his last friend game and was saying how it would really hurt him if he lost that character or his bear. I couldn’t imagine treating my brothers the way this dad or brother treated OP as a child. That bear from the 3rd story was just plan disturbing. But I also totally can relate to the family that “never talks about their issues or problematic behavior.”
idk about yall but I friggin love dwarf ladies with beards. They're not ugly and I get where this girl is coming from, but calling bearded ladies ugly kinda sucks? I DM'd for a bearded dwarf lady (druid) who was awesome and ended up pretty much saving all dwarves from extinction in her campaign!
I have to say, the story about the Dad DMing really shines some light on the brother.
My mother loves to say you should love and forgive family because "They're family!"
This brother is one of many examples of why that ethos is bad and can have long lasting mental health effects on younger family members
they should not be acting like that if there family
With respect, loving and forgiving family because "they're family" is a flaming heap of garbage. True family is not defined by blood or genetics.
Yeah, family if an effect rather than a cause to being good people.
There are three types of people who say you should always forgive abusive family, because they're family
1. People with a good family, who can't understand nor grasp the concept of abusive family members, and thus project their own positive one onto others
2. The abusive family member
3. Relatives who doesn't wanna like shit for still worshiping said abusive family member
That said made sense in a long-forgotten time, the reason you forgive them because "They're family!" was because it was a time of vested interests where you needed to belong to a group, camaraderie was needed, and the de facto group you are born it is your family, and those family "bonds" had to be strong enough to maintain sometimes the peace between countries, so an abuser was better than someone that causes ripples in the family and makes people decide if to side with the abuser or the victim, the status quo had to be maintained at the expense of everyone.
That is the origin of that type of mentality, basically, middle ages mentality where without a family you were screwed up, and family bonds served as international treaties, so that kind of mentality was needed to survive, this mentality can be even be traced down to the origins of society where a tribe may as well be a big family.
But now is not yesterday and for sure today is not the middle ages, so that mentality is outdated as fuck, it was never a good mentality but a necessary evil mentality to start with, so now that it is no longer necessary, is just an evil mentality.
I had friends in college who described this kind of behavior from their family. It was usually played as a joke but considering how f'd up they were it explained.
Great example was a friend who, grin plastered on face, constantly told stories of how his dad emotionally manipulated him and caused at least several public meltdowns that he, the child and son, was punished for. No surprise, friend loved emotionally manipulating people in the friend group and had a preference toward lying to emotionally vulnerable people.