I like to ride ugly horses!
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
- This is why I like to ride ugly horses and you should too!
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I once knew an _objectively_ ugly pony.
His head was like an axe with his neck like the handle. His ears flopped sideways. His rump was sloped downwards like a kid's slide. His legs were too sturdy for his dainty body, and his hooves too small for his sturdy legs. When he trotted through long grass, you expected him to leave a trail of knitted grass stalks behind him, so round-and-about was his front action. He was just over 13 hh and about 7 years old.
He had the kindest, softest eye of any horse I have ever seen, and had been bought for an almost non-verbal child (the child flapped hands energetically whenever it saw a horse or pony, and their first recognisable words were 'ony! ony!' said eagerly when they were taken to a therapeutic riding session for the first time), with severe global developmental delays and autism.
When the child was introduced to this pony, the child's father told me that he and his wife both cried when their child spoke clearly and said 'you name Ginger'.
I can assure anyone who is wondering, that this pony was considered the very epitome of beauty by the entire extended family, and everyone who knew them, despite his superficial, outward, awkward appearance.
Next time I buy a horse I’m getting one from your neck of the woods so you can help in approving the horse ! Your experience is priceless !
A good, kind horse will become beautiful. A beautiful horse may never become good and kind.
I had a TWH with a roman nose. The first time I rode him in Alaska he whinnied at a moose. Awesome walking horse almost 17 hands. Such a gentle good minded horse.
Just with a spouse, if they treat you well you will learn to love them. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder so that good horse absolutely will be beautiful.
That said, “we” bought a pretty horse. He brings my wife great joy, but does not behave for me.
I don't think there is such a thing as an ugly horse. But there is certainty some ugly horse owners.
@jjones you took the words right out of my mouth!
With horses as with people it's personality that counts. Good looks can hide a lot of ugly.
MaLinda: you are 1000% correct on that point about people.... Thank you for saying that!
Shazam puts his pretty head over the wall at just the right moment! laughing.
Guilty as charged. As a beginner rider I chose on how they looked. As they say you eat with your eyes. 3 pretty failures for me before a got my self a plain honest horse. This horse taught me so much & I achieved a lot on him. I always wondered if I’d had started with him first maybe I would have gone even further, as my pretty ones definitely were the wrong ones for me & set my confidence back.
My favorite horse of all time was not registered, was not pretty,. He was from a ranch in Southern New Mexico. I lived north of Taos, New Mexico and rode him on a visit to a friend in Albuquerque. She had lots of off track thourobreds that she retrained as hunter/jumpers. This horse was not one of those. A friend had sent him to her to be sold. At the time, I was looking for a horse for my husband, something slow moving, sure footed and not prone to drama. Monte had a kind quality about him. When I saddled and bridled him he was more than cooperative. I took him home to our mountain. As is often the case, my expectation that my spouse would want to ride the mountain trails with me did not materialize. Monte became my horse of choice. Why? Because he always was ready to climb the hills, cross the streams, pay attention to my desired route, and put his feet in the safest place to protect both himself and me. My German shepherds went along on the trail with us and Monte considered himself part of their pack. Once I heard a mountain lion scream and while Monte took note of it, he did not panic. He was not pretty, he was just the best partner I had ever ridden. I can't help but think that his time on a working ranch made him the best horse I have ever known.
My current older mare has seen bears, deer, range cattle and pushing them, can take me back to the trailer totally different than how we came . She does NOT tolerate anyone else but me..ex show, introduced to so many new experiences by our riding. We work together...I will not pass her on to anyone. Difficult! YES but to me...the best. Like dogs, we often get the 4 legged we need, not always the one we want! Thank you for your wisdom and teaching.
Lucy is beautiful, not flashy, but beautiful. Flashy doesn't always mean good. Love your videos; really dislike when someone tries to gain from them.
It's easier to evaluate pretty. It takes knowledge and skill to evaluate the inner qualities.
OK, maybe it's just me and I'm a horse-nut. Lucy is beautiful. I honestly don't think I've ever seen an "ugly" horse. Physically, I think they're all beautiful. Some have had some crappy attitudes and personalities, but all in all, horses are a gift to us and they're all stunning, in my book!
I agree. I've never seen a horse that wasn't at least very cute, even if in a kind of weird way lol ❤
Malinda's comment is spot on. Thought the same thing listening to Tim.
I was just thinking that too Malinda!
Pretty horses also are usually priced higher. We have a plain jane in our herd and she is pure gold, solid, sound and steady and I wouldn't sell her .
I recently had to put down my 28 year old teacher. Weak at 6 months, no balance at 2yo, skinny at 4yo but such a lovely mind and friendly eyes. We never did any competitions but omg what did he learn me a lot! He learned me to see the real horse, their inside beauty and the real meaning of love, trust and connection.
Pretty is as pretty does and a good horse is a good horse
This horse is definitely not ugly. Very pretty in fact.
As the old horsemen used to say, "you can't ride the head."
One I always heard was "you can't ride just pretty"
I rode a big strawberry roan draft cross who was the best horse ever
This sorrel mare isn’t ugly. She looks sweet.
Lucy is worth her weight in gold.
Totally agree. I've only owned one pretty horse, a Morgan that my sister-in-law and I both competed with. And luckily that horse had a good mind as well. But most of my horses have been working ranch quarter horses that were so wonderfully solid and trustworthy.
As a teen I had a special relationship with one 12 year old sorrel quarter horse. I babysit 3 sisters, the oldest and youngest had intellectual disabilities. I could put all three of those girls on that horse and she would just walk around in big circles while I sat and watched. If one of them started to fall off she would stop. But my younger brother who liked to show off what he didn't know, would get on her and she generally found a way to lose him.
She loved to run before a summer rainstorm and if one was approaching and I didn't go get her, she would jump the fence and come to the house to get me. Never ran off on her own, just came to a window and started calling.
An absolutely amazing partner that no one called pretty. Her soul was beautiful.
She is pretty to me
I would not say all are ugly = just plain in looks…..btw I think Lucy is pretty!
I think Lucy is pretty, but I get your wise advice.
Years ago we had to move away from the farm because of my work. My daughter told me that she wanted to take riding lessons. We got her lined up with a trainer and about 6 months later she told me that she found a horse she wanted to buy tried to put her off but she won out. I went to check out the horse and found out that he was a stud. I told her not no but hell no, she was 11 years old. About a month later she said that she was going to buy him and I finally gave in. As it turned out together they were quite the match. They would play together like a kid with a dog playing. He never balked at anything she asked him to do. After we were able to move back to the farm and she started college she started to 4:08 Team Pen with him and did very well. Was able pay her own way with the winnings. I couldn’t have been more proud of her and her horse. They were inseparable.
I love sorrels and bays! If I ever own another horse, I want one with a good mind.
A GREAT VIDEO! When my daughters were riding I was shocked at how many horsey parents bought pretty, well bred ponies for their children to ride. These ponies simply were too much for their riders to manage; a dangerous situation to expose any child to. The 2 best ponies in my life were both very plain looking bays. One was my first pony so very kind and willing and would jump anything I asked her too, even when she couldn't see over the top. The second was my daughters first pony who rotated around the extended family for his whole life because he was so trustworthy. He had hooves like iron and had never been shod. He wouldn't go any faster than the riders ability. Both ponies had a long list of requests to buy. I owe them so much.
Yes! I’m grateful that a teacher said buy the mind. If they are pretty, it’s a bonus.
Once visiting a friend he showed me a horse he had just bought, the look was quite poor, color and everything but when he asked me to ride it, I was amazed and the training he horse had. It was a Ferrari hidden inside a Fiat Panda!
Very good information. My first horse was not put together very well but he only spooked one time during the time I owned him. He was a former pick up horse from Alberta. Totally fearless. He went any direction I pointed him, The rest of my horses were sorrel horses with very good minds. You can't ride the looks you ride the mind. I've always been a trail rider & its necessary to ride a horse with a good mind to ride trails.
Had a retired pickup horse named Jim in an equine assisted therapy program I worked at for years. We let the horses pick the child they wanted to work with instead of the kids picking the horse.
Jim was huge but not assertive with the other horses in the herd so when he pushed other horses out of the way to get to a child new to the program, we knew there were deep issues involved. He always picked the most damaged kids and helped them grow so much.
My motto on horses is ‘pretty is is pretty does’.
That's an old old saying.
That was my mistake. I bought pretty first even though I told myself I wasn’t. I wish I had bought a horse with a pretty mind instead. We were both definitely held back. In the end, she went to a trainer who did a great job with her.
I’m looking for my next heart horse, mine first one died 12 years ago and she was my best friend and confidant. We rode hours together and she only dumped me twice. Both were legit too-I was riding her in the flooded fields and a duck exploded under us and I went swimming and she looked at me like I was crazy 😅 the second time she refused to cross the creek and just fought me. I got dumped and had to walk home that time. Come to find out, there was a cougar holed up in the trees across the creek. Man I miss her so much.
Brown Betty was a double bagger. She wore a bag so you didn't see how ugly she was. The second bag was FOR YOUR head so if hers fell off, you still couldnt see how ugly she was. You could trust her to take care of any kid you put on her back. They learned to ride. They learned the joys of bring around horses. She was 22, pig eyed, roman nosed, mule ears, ewe necked, with high withers, a sway back rafter hips, cow hocks 13.2 hands and pure gold.😊
Tim how do you look at their mind? I would love your ideas on what to look for.
Not sure what makes a horse "ugly" ??? People with that mindset probably shouldn't have horses.
There is truth in what you say- most horses have something beautiful in them- I just love horses& I think Tim does also!
Lucy is beautiful! Dark sorrel, big blaze, and white front right foot.
Thank you for this it should be said much more often because it's true the mind is soooo important 😊
I was raised with the phrases, You can't ride pretty and pretty is as pretty does.
I think Lucy has a beautiful head and ears. Her eyes are also kind. I know what you mean though. She isn’t a “flashy” color or special but she is a beautiful sorrel mare. There are some horses with certain conformations (usually to do with long necks) that are unattractive to my eye but I wouldn’t pass them up if they were good horses. Love your videos Tim!
I’ve noticed Sam Elliott ride the same horse in several different movies. Just a plain old red horse with long body and short legs. If it is the one that you trust and work well together is more important than a nice photo.
See the pretty horse in my profile? He taught me that "pretty is as pretty does". Good lord, he was a challenge! I totally agree with what you are discussing.
She has lovely eyes and shows intelligence. To me that is far more important than pretty
Pity you didn't show her to us ! I'd have liked to see how she looked from different angles instead of head on.
I call my Lusitano gelding a true unicorn. I went to look at him because, in his sales video when he was four-year-old, he was ridden in a dressage arena, and a motorcycle zoomed past the edge of the arena. He didn’t lift his head or bat an eye. He has this uncanny ability to assess threats and dismiss them immediately. He has given me so much confidence. He is 18 now and slowing down. We still do dressage work twice a week, to keep him supple. The rest of the time we saunter about on the trails, or camp in the mountains and desert. I’ll never find another one like him.
Your horse is priceless!!!
The only flashy horse I ever owned was the meanest and injured me a few times. The plain Jane horses I have now are quirky but they're still good horses. Neither are show stoppers. Kiowa has a big Iberian head and Huck is a stubby QH. I'd choose them any day over lots of chrome or flashy prettiness
Shazam is in a different stall today?
So true. I like a pretty horse as much as the next person, but bought a jug headed, thin necked three year old unbroken Haflinger gelding based on my friend's recommendation because of his pedigree. He is the best horse, and grew into his head. His temperament is fabulous, and he is as smooth as silk to ride.
My motto is always pretty is as pretty does. Also a good horse is a good horse😊.
The song "never make a pretty woman your wife" comes to mind❤
Marry one that can cook I think that song says. Lol.
An old cowboy I knew told me people expect more of a pretty horse. And can often be disappointed.
EXACTLY! My "ugly" horse Noble was the best mount anyone could ask for. The most comfortable gaits and the best temperament!
I'm known for plain headed, tiny forlocked, large eared, plain bays. Im all about movement.
There is no such a thing whatsoever as an ugly horse !!! Maybe an ugly personality but not physically ugly. To me ? Not possible!!! ❤️🐴
How can there be such a thing as an "ugly horse?!"
i totally agree.
Some people don't like roman noses or thick looking legs. Humans can be silly.
@@2000konnie It seems like thick legs would have good bone.
Love non pretty dogs also. Find great character dogs unexpectedly.
Beauty is within. An ordinary horse can be a champion in its own.
"Pretty is as pretty does". A saying among knowledgeable horse people.
17 years with my plain cob but was a faithful servant who excelled at all I asked. In starting to look for my next, my top two criteria are 1. Kindness and 2. Aptitude to learn. Tim, can you share any tips (or maybe a follow-up video) re: how to assess potential for kindness and aptitude if the horse is 3 year old and unbroken please? (I'm looking at geldings and a sensible breed with good confirmation and movement etc, etc). Thanks in advance for considering
I had a plain sorrel mare grade QH with 3 bars bloodline in the mid 70s. The ranch she was on gave her to me for nothing as it was a drought year & no feed to winter some of their older stock. She looked just like Lucy. Her name was Cricket & she was probably close to 100lbs underweight, delivered to us in the back of a pickup with stockade on the side. I was 15. She was 20. Spent that 1st year riding bareback until I earned enough money to buy a saddle for $35.00 & we joined 4H where we learned western pleasure, Trail & stock where she excelled. Loved to cut cows & her favorite sport was polebending. I had her until the age of 32 where I had to put her down due to lameness. I went on to other horses but none like cricket. We trusted eachother & could read eachothers mind. I will never forget her!
Years ago while at a show at Old Salem Farm we walked through the barn looking for the million dollar jumper, The Natural. Couldn't find any horse that seemed to fit that description. When he was
pointed out to us I must say there was some disappointment. An average size, average looking bay gelding. Nothing to suggest by his looks that he could jump huge courses. That was definitely a lesson learned.
Tim, I'm glad you brought this subject up. So true a horse with a good mind is really a diamond. My best horses have all been red heads. My most dangerous horse was a stunning bay roan. That horse willfully knock me to the ground at least 4 times. Your Lucy is beautiful.
Horses should be selected for their temperament, not their looks. I think plain is a better term than ugly. Anyway, she's a lovely mare.
Two Things: 1) Unfortunately, my horse/riding days are far behind me - but - i watch all these videos. I have learned so much that i wish i knew when i was "horsin' around." Just wanted Tim to know how much he's appreciated! 2) One of many holes in my training is today's video (i know you talk about the horse's mind a lot but i am missing something) - if i'm looking to buy a horse (i have grandchildren), how would one accurately assess a horse's mind without being able to spend a lot of time with a horse - say at a sale.
It’s all about the brain!
It doesn’t matter what a horse looks like as long as it’s sound, serviceable, and suits your purpose. People miss out on a lot of really fantastic horses just because of their color!
When I’m looking at a horse, I’m looking primarily at their brain. I want to see if they think and problem solve, or just react. Remember what you should be looking for is a partner. A horse that you can get along with the minimal amount of frustration happening on either side.
THRILLED you did this video! I see people (even trainers and horse people) pass over the best minded horses because they are sorel or bay with no chrome. Flashy and fancy may be pretty but a great mind is priceless! I often wonder why the great minded horses don't cost the most...
I like certain looks, but I evaluate the whole picture. If it wouldn't be safe for a beginner, then it wouldn't be a good fit for me since I have kids. I haven't owned any horses that weren't safe/sane, but I've definitely trained some crazies for other people 😂
I bought a weedy plain bay thoroughbred off the local track for $700, rode him for a few years, and sold him to a friend. He was schooling advanced level eventing at 19 and only retired because his owner went to vet school. One of the best I've ever owned and there wasn't a speck of chrome on him, lol
"A Good Horse Is Never a Bad Color" Mark Rashid
However, there is a caveat. Some of these conformation conditions can be life limiting or limit the kind of work the horse can do.
When it comes to breeding a horse with a fancy colour might be exused faults that wouldn't be accepted if it was a plain colour.
I don't think I've ever seen an ugly horse. I love black horses, cats, dogs. But thats just a color thing. I woukdnt select on that alone. There has to be affability.
Or learn to train the pretty horse and make it amazing.. I’ve been overwhelmed by pretty but it made me a better horse person to teach pretty how to be a good horse. I’ve also had really good ugly horse, he moved beautifully and was well trained carried himself gorgeous even though he was one of those ugly types of Appys.
Many people look at color and flash first for sure, even people that should know better! Chrome is overrated, one more thing to keep clean lol.
Good confirmation is a definite plus, but I don't discount a horse that's trained for the job I want just because of a few structural dings.
Folks newer to horses usually start out with the young pretty ones instead of the older, plain safe ones and find out the error the hard way.
I'm 58, been riding all my life and I look for those 20 year olds to ride.
Personally I'm wanting a well educated horse being pretty is only a bonus if you're going to be showing.
Great advice and video! Pretty is as pretty does. I am in a weird position. When people meet or see my horse, the first thing they say is he is cute! He has some unusual markings. While he is attractive it is actually his brain, kindness, willingness and tolerance that make him cute. When we found each other 8 years ago, no one would have described him as cute even though his outward appearance hasn't changed. Hardwork and training has made him cute.
Amen the best talent always walks out of their barns because it’s become a beauty contest!!!!!!
One of the best horses I ever owned was a Navi pony bought for my 7 year old son. Great baby sitter until an experienced rider got on his back. Wow, whole nother horse.
My best horse lve ever had is a gray...my very least favorite color. But she was the sweetest girl and when l had to choose between a super flashy black and white paint gelding and her, l chose her! Best decision lve ever made! Turns out that black and white paint is the calmest most awesome horse too, but lm glad l have my girl...even tho shes a mare with a white tail...the worst! Haha 😂
I think all horses are beautiful , I do get what your are saying though
Temperament is priority for me
First thing I always say about my Moriesian Mare Nyobi, that I currently have, is that she is the kindest soul I have ever met.
She is so sweet that the person I bought her from gave me a 30 day money back, love her or return her guarantee. We have been together five and a half years now.
The best horse I ever rode was a butt ugly Appaloosa mare who was a horse at one of those ride by the hour places. I have no idea how such a well trained horse got on that string. She was so in tune with me that she literally felt like another part of my body. Friends used to ridicule me for requesting that "ugly thing" until they saw how well she handled. If I would of had the money, I would of bought her in a heartbeat. She was not at all pretty, but she was pure gold to ride.
Good morning all. So true Melinda. Thank you Tim & Melinda for video,😃😇
This is SO right. My best horse was a plain red horse. And yes MaLinda, you are right about people too. Sad.
Yes so very true, I have chosen horses for their eye appeal and it is not always the best way to make a selection. Same goes for super attractive people, seems the world around them in general treat them better and give them more opportunities based on their physical appearance. Hence a good horse may never get the opportunities that the fancy one will. I think Lucy is a nice looking mare.
Lots of money was spent by people who had to have that pretty horse only to find out that pretty isn’t always best. I agree Malinda. Both of these things show how shallow some people can be. Nothing wrong with having a pretty horse but there has to be more.
One of my smartest, wisest horses had a head that looked that it was hacked out of a log with an axe. I named him Eddie Square Head.
Amen, preach on!!!!! I would love to own that horse!!!!
My best horse was not pretty (quite ugly) she had a roman nose and big ears. But she threw the best foals only one of the foals had her roman nose and big ears, I retained that foal and he turned out to be as good, if not better than his mother.
I love that the gorgeous horse looks over the divider, like, what????
100 correct. I think your horse right there is a good looking horse.
I love and own ugly horses. I actually don't see 'ugly' in a horse
Always love these these chats and as always spot on, thankyou!! 🦘
Please tell MaLinda that I appreciate her comments :-) so true!
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She has such a pretty face.
Love from Germany.
Good horse is never a bad color, cant recall author.
I did not know there was hugly horses!
There is no such thing as an ugly horse 🐎❣️
Good luck this weekend!
There is no such thing as a ugly horse
Same thing with dogs.