Is He Too Much Horse For Her?

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  • @ryanrosehorsemanship
    @ryanrosehorsemanship  9 місяців тому +189

    If you would like to see my full training program and ask me specific questions about your horse consider joining my patreon page. I'll help you develop the partnership you've always wanted. Go to www.patreon.com/ryanrosehorsemanship

    • @kristinbailey3227
      @kristinbailey3227 9 місяців тому +6

      If you fail as a leader to a new horse, what is a video you recommend to help recover/fix that?

    • @TiffanyRuocco
      @TiffanyRuocco 8 місяців тому +1

      Question about the flag you use - is it at the end of a hard rod or tied to the end of a regular, flexible dressage whip?

    • @debcorbett7146
      @debcorbett7146 8 місяців тому +3

      What breed of horse is he?

    • @christinecrow9532
      @christinecrow9532 8 місяців тому +2

      Yes, I would like to see more.

    • @dsmauigal1
      @dsmauigal1 8 місяців тому

      To

  • @jordanwhite5470
    @jordanwhite5470 9 місяців тому +1226

    I empathize so much with the horse owner, and applaud her for seeking help instead of just dumping the horse.

    • @Cwgrlup
      @Cwgrlup 9 місяців тому +64

      For sure. It’s not easy sticking to a difficult horse. I had the same experience with my 5 year old OTTB. Everyone was telling me to sell him but I stuck it out and he turned into the best thing that ever happened to me. It’s so worth it if you’re committed.

    • @lej6550
      @lej6550 9 місяців тому +13

      You don’t dump a lovely horse like that. Could put him with a trainer and resell him.

    • @MrsTfromtheUK
      @MrsTfromtheUK 9 місяців тому +10

      Yes emotive word 'dump' . You are not the only owner in the world who can look after a horse.

    • @lindahollister5530
      @lindahollister5530 9 місяців тому +13

      It sounds like the horse might have been mistreated while or when he got trained.😢 Glad you are training him. Hope he is trainable.

    • @nancyfleming1693
      @nancyfleming1693 9 місяців тому +13

      @@lej6550 I don't recall her ever saying she was going to dump him!

  • @834jc
    @834jc 9 місяців тому +539

    I remember my uncle telling me…..if the horse is doing something you don’t like examine yourself. Usually we are most of the problem. We must be humble willing to learn.

    • @daralynndehnicke5112
      @daralynndehnicke5112 9 місяців тому +10

      I love that! True words indeed! We have to think like the horse and it is basically as easy as common sense on our parts. Move slow always. When I lived in the south a few years, I was calmer in nature almost no stress thanks to the country air of Arkansas. The horses I dealt with required the relaxing approach. We city people and our energy always in a hurry to get absolutely nowhere fast always leads to a different dynamic when dealing with them while living back in Chicago.

    • @SeraphimAngelWings
      @SeraphimAngelWings 8 місяців тому +9

      Yr right I can already tell she's got no authority to her presence at all she's letting him walk all over almost literally I wouldn't tolerate it and hold my stance he's just pushing his weight around 😅

    • @bellarain11
      @bellarain11 8 місяців тому +4

      100% agree!
      I believe that most of the time when we feel like we’re relaxed around a horse, we’re actually not to the extent that we thought we were.
      We have to double check ourselves, and almost 100% of the time when we do that and focus on relaxing, we’ll see a more calm and curious horse.

    • @4lb280
      @4lb280 8 місяців тому +6

      Just like dogs

    • @Vovo-zx4ql
      @Vovo-zx4ql 8 місяців тому +6

      It’s exactly the same thing with dogs. 🐶

  • @lizpetruzzi7700
    @lizpetruzzi7700 9 місяців тому +579

    Yes, please! Second session, next step plus would like to see owner working with him under your guidance. Gorgeous horse!

    • @Cwgrlup
      @Cwgrlup 9 місяців тому +28

      This is a great horse to watch him work for those of us who have those 7 and up horses!!!

    • @ElysiaFields19
      @ElysiaFields19 9 місяців тому +25

      Very eager to see another session. If the owner is willing, she could learn breath exercises to help relax mind and body, and ease her anxiety. I've seen amazing things happen to people (myself included) just becoming aware of their breathing just as you do with the horse.

    • @elizabetha5561
      @elizabetha5561 9 місяців тому +9

      It’s hard to realize what you don’t know and finding resources.
      Every.single.time I’ve ridden or worked with a horse, I learn something.
      He’s a sweet boy, he wants to “communicate.” But, we - humans - sometimes don’t know how to speak/act in a way they get.

    • @Shadyrestbarn
      @Shadyrestbarn 9 місяців тому +2

      First you work horse then rider never both when teaching horse for safe of both just incase a Karen didn't understand that

    • @JillChristyGroup
      @JillChristyGroup 7 місяців тому +3

      @@Cwgrlup But what a joy to have a 7+ horse, right?! That's the spirit of what you want a horse to exhibit. That's what we want as humans, too! Be a 7+ ~ LOL

  • @americanpatriot7247
    @americanpatriot7247 9 місяців тому +148

    When I bought the very first horse I ever had, the owner was a professional trainer and big name competitor. He had this seal brown Thoroughbred just standing in one of his stalls that he had bought to train for himself & his wife. He was 16 hands high, 4 years old, off the race track, skinny and not friendly. The owner and my vet and a friend and I all went into his stall and stood in a row with me in the middle.
    He stood at the far end of the big stall and ignored us as we looked at him. Finally, he lifted his head, turned to face us. Stood there for about a minute then slowly walked over to me and put his face in my chest, and sighed, and just stood there like that for awhile. Then he backed up and went back to where he had started from. That was it. He was mine in my head frim that moment forward. Everyone stood there in wonder.
    Took me 2 weeks to talk the guy into selling him to me because he said I had no business with such an untrained youngster with high spirits like this one and told me he would sell him to me under the condition he would take him back with no questions asked in a month and return my money as long as he wasn't injured in any way. He said he expected him back and just to call him as I didn't have enough experience for him.
    I told him I had waited my life for this horse and I would get the training I needed for me in order to do right by this horse.
    I had him until his death at 26 from a stroke. He was one of the 3 best things that have ever hapoened to me in my life. He was my once in a lifetime horse. He turned out to be magnificent and much too talented for me, but he didn't know that and he actually showed love toward me over the years. I was honored to have been owned by him. I stilll miss him, greatly.

    • @kingdomfreedom8323
      @kingdomfreedom8323 4 місяці тому +9

      Beautifully put, you both deserved that tremendous gift given to each other. Thank you for sharing. ❤

    • @TL-nh2vr
      @TL-nh2vr 2 місяці тому +8

      I wish you could write a book about him. Find a way to do so, even if you never publish it. I would Love to hear the full story, though...❤

    • @jennifernew2440
      @jennifernew2440 2 місяці тому +2

      Hes still with you in spirit ❤

    • @EvelynTokamp
      @EvelynTokamp 2 місяці тому +4

      @americanpatriot7247 Reading the story about your TB just gave me goose bumps. Thanks so much for sharing it & best wishes from the NL :)

    • @hawkfeatheraviation3465
      @hawkfeatheraviation3465 Місяць тому +2

      Such a sweet story. Your horse felt safe and understood with you. Sounds like you gave him permission to relax more than his original owner did. He actually CHOSE you. ❤️

  • @nighthawk1428
    @nighthawk1428 9 місяців тому +239

    This trainer is impressive, allowing horses to be who they are while asking them to respect our space.

    • @user-je9uz2pu9n
      @user-je9uz2pu9n 5 місяців тому +6

      They learn so much from their mothers it’s humans that make bad habits

  • @coldspring624
    @coldspring624 9 місяців тому +135

    It was said my wife had bought too much horse. It was scary for her but my woman never gave in and 20 years on the two are as one. It really is a beautiful thing to watch

    • @deborahlester4018
      @deborahlester4018 6 місяців тому +6

      I had that experience. He just got too old to want to kill me in our case. I learned more from him than any other horse I ever knew. Loved him more ...

    • @WholisticWomen-wl2sy
      @WholisticWomen-wl2sy 4 місяці тому +3

      Haha we have a mare like that. She'd run you down if you got in her way, now she's an angel.

    • @AmandaPerks-e9h
      @AmandaPerks-e9h 4 місяці тому

      Wow😊

  • @sarahmedeiros1473
    @sarahmedeiros1473 9 місяців тому +363

    Kudos to the owner for seeking help. I adopted a mare that also didn’t check my boxes, but there was just something about her. She too seemed super docile until the environment changed. Super sensitive to pressure, and would rear up and lunge forward striking when she didn’t understand. She was very committed to not backing up.
    I lost all my confidence and it made it really difficult to handle her, because she could sense it. We were both anxious.
    I joined Ryan’s Patreon and have been just really slowly working with her. Using that blocking method for owning personal space, with a stick and string or a flag before asking for any kind of yield to just establish baseline safety, has done wonders for us. It really helped me gain my confidence again. She is also a lot calmer, because she understands better too.
    I really enjoyed the video. Big thanks to Ryan for creating videos like this, for us who don’t have the training experience. I believe the owner will get her confidence back. It takes time, and is so hard, but when you do, it becomes fun again. ❤️ Cheering for you!

    • @melsafken764
      @melsafken764 9 місяців тому +5

      My mare acted like that, turned out she had cataracts & was afraid.

    • @clairesuzanne1276
      @clairesuzanne1276 8 місяців тому +1

      Oh what a wonderful person you are ... your actions saved your horses life... remember that ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

    • @allisonanderson-xf6kz
      @allisonanderson-xf6kz 6 місяців тому

      @@clairesuzanne1276???

    • @vicmorgana5516
      @vicmorgana5516 6 місяців тому +3

      @@allisonanderson-xf6kz By saving the horse's life, they mean that the owner saved their horse from being put down. Aggressive horses can get put down the same as aggressive dogs can, whatever the reason for their aggression may be.

    • @allisonanderson-xf6kz
      @allisonanderson-xf6kz 6 місяців тому +2

      @@vicmorgana5516 I completely get that, since my family and I have been rescuers of cows, goats and horses most of my life due to issues like that. The new owner never said anything abt that. She stated that the horse was fine when she rode him at the owners house and then was good for a few months after that, but then horse started to change. So, as a rescuer, if your horse does not like or get your vibe then someone else should have him. You just don’t mesh together, especially when you don’t put the time and quality into the horse yourself. That’s just my opinion. It’s not fair to the animal and can deserve better…..

  • @1daySomeday
    @1daySomeday 9 місяців тому +35

    to the owner! kudos for hanging in there in spite of being taken advantage of by the previous owners who were disgustingly dishonest to you putting your life in danger. We all are cheering you on that everything will work out 100% with you and your horse. he is a looker of a horse to so hopefully he will transform into a gem , if not don't worry about it one bit, sell him and use that same money to buy a horse that will love you. :D

  • @topcatwarrior
    @topcatwarrior 9 місяців тому +215

    I definitely would love to see more of this horse. He’s absolutely stunning and I do believe she can get him where she needs him to be with time and consistent training. It will help build the trust between them and ensure he’s safe for her to ride in whatever circumstances she’s willing to explore. Thanks for another interesting video.

  • @leonebritt4879
    @leonebritt4879 6 місяців тому +108

    It's the "problem" horses who teach you more about horsemanship than the pony anyone can ride.

    • @jcmac47
      @jcmac47 5 місяців тому +1

      Oh yes! So very true. 💗

    • @louisecassidy5991
      @louisecassidy5991 5 місяців тому +2

      There are no problem horses, horses have people problems. Likely she grained him up. Or maybe the horse was drugged for the sale.

    • @AmandaPerks-e9h
      @AmandaPerks-e9h 4 місяці тому

      So true

    • @Sheahne
      @Sheahne 4 місяці тому +2

      Problem horses actually teach you more about yourself. Patience & curiosity are key to understanding each other.

    • @debbieschiller7686
      @debbieschiller7686 4 місяці тому +1

      ​@@jcmac47no it isn't. A problem horse can teach you bad habits and bad horsemanship. If you want to be a better horseman, you want a horse that has the ability to challenge you. You want a horse that has the ability to grow with you. Hen you buy that horse he might be green. But he has a lot to learn. If you can't learn with him, he will never succeed and you will never become a better horseman. The same with you - if you have the ability to learn and the horse doesn't, then you will never be a horseman. You will be just a weekend rider who has has no desire to become the best. There are very few people who can fix a problem horse. If you think everyone will become a better horseman if they have a problem horse, then there would never be a problem horse. Which will never happen. Go to an expert if you have a problem horse.

  • @Cwgrlup
    @Cwgrlup 9 місяців тому +175

    Just watching the first few seconds it’s like the more upset she is the more dominant he gets. He is so sensitive to her state of mind. I think he’s certainly in need of strong consistent leadership. Definitely a horse for the intermediate and higher level rider. That said, he’s gorgeous and has tons of potential. I wish the owner and this lovely horse all the best.
    DEFINITELY would LOVE to see the progress of this horse!!!

    • @horsingwithhugo
      @horsingwithhugo 9 місяців тому +27

      im only up to 2 minutes and all I can see is her hanging on the rope, giving him mixed signals and she is letting him walk quite literally through her with zero consequences - therefore Im assuming he has had 30 days to escalate his dominance, because she is not the leader here. Also 30 days on new feed doesnt really help. Am glad she has sought help, because he could be passed around and around its not fair on horses. I hope they build an awesome relationship with Ryan's help

    • @finngamesknudson1457
      @finngamesknudson1457 9 місяців тому +3

      This horse reminds me of ours. As beginner riders we have sought help - but at this point he needs more consistent attention than we can manage. Looking for someone experienced enough to handle him and willing to ride a time or two during the week. If he gets a week without a ride, he gets considerably more difficult.

    • @cindybrygman4350
      @cindybrygman4350 9 місяців тому +13

      I did the same only watched the first few minutes and seen how she was constantly checking him in and tight lead but as soon as Ryan gets hold, gives the long slack and it relaxes. Nothing wrong with that beauty. Just needs a leader@@horsingwithhugo

    • @horsingwithhugo
      @horsingwithhugo 9 місяців тому +10

      @@cindybrygman4350 Yes, nothing wrong with him. He is doing what he needs to do as a horse. My gelding tests me at times, which I like as it kinda makes me think where my head is at really? He makes me show up. I hope the owner gains confidence with Ryan's help. We've all been there, lost confidence at some point.

    • @horsingwithhugo
      @horsingwithhugo 9 місяців тому +7

      @@finngamesknudson1457 some horses are like that. My horse isn't the type you can pull out the paddock and ride if left a week. He needs ground work to establish the connection. I'm sure you're learning a lot. Build on the connection with your horse , it really does wonders for you both. Good luck

  • @GorgyPorgy65
    @GorgyPorgy65 9 місяців тому +64

    As a third generation , 55 year owner of horses...horse sellers can be the worst people on earth. They LIE through their teeth !
    Out of all the youtubes , this guy is probably the best to watch.
    Really intelligent sound advice and handling.

    • @marrmaladee
      @marrmaladee 6 місяців тому +2

      Awful to hear that :/ Know any sound way to source our ethical sellers/breeders?

    • @GorgyPorgy65
      @GorgyPorgy65 6 місяців тому +5

      @@marrmaladee Always take a horseman with you...one who isn't worried about asking the hard questions. Get a vet check done ...your choice vet, not theirs.

    • @marrmaladee
      @marrmaladee 6 місяців тому +1

      @@GorgyPorgy65 much appreciated!

    • @OoSpellheartOo
      @OoSpellheartOo 5 місяців тому +2

      I know very little about horses but I think he is worried about humans dumping him becuz he has issues... anxiety

    • @kenzeier2943
      @kenzeier2943 5 місяців тому +1

      Buyers…become sellers 😳

  • @ducksamok1716
    @ducksamok1716 9 місяців тому +133

    Beautiful horse. He’s listening while Ryan was talking. Horses are very sensitive animals and they can sense anything. They know right away if you’re a leader or someone they can boss around.

    • @susanmaddux3289
      @susanmaddux3289 8 місяців тому +2

      I agree.

    • @tomroyse1540
      @tomroyse1540 7 місяців тому +5

      And most horses will test the rider. If you show weakness in some horses they are like kids they take it a little further ,then further until they are rearing and striking.

    • @kingdomfreedom8323
      @kingdomfreedom8323 4 місяці тому

      How very true...❤

    • @jjohnsengraciesmom
      @jjohnsengraciesmom Місяць тому

      I do think horses really try to work with you . I don't think it is an us vs them mentality. He is trying to figure this guy out. It sounds like she did make some progress training him.

    • @jjohnsengraciesmom
      @jjohnsengraciesmom Місяць тому

      ​@@tomroyse1540Not all horses reach that level. But they might try to push. So you just train, grou.dwprk, what have you.

  • @AnnJo24224
    @AnnJo24224 9 місяців тому +81

    This is perfect horse for her. He will not kill her but challenge to learn about horses. She seems to be wise and humble so I think this couple will be successful.

    • @kathleenchance5494
      @kathleenchance5494 8 місяців тому +7

      No, he's not .she's not advanced enough for a horse at that caliber

    • @moapettersson3630
      @moapettersson3630 8 місяців тому

      @@kathleenchance5494agree

    • @tomroyse1540
      @tomroyse1540 7 місяців тому +14

      @@kathleenchance5494As a horsewoman you never learn if you are not challenged.Anyone can buy and enjoy a push button horse. It depends what the woman wants to learn or just amble around in an arena.

    • @spook6394
      @spook6394 4 місяці тому +2

      @@kathleenchance5494it’s like you weren’t listening when he said even he can’t make that call

    • @ellemcfee8322
      @ellemcfee8322 3 місяці тому +1

      Kinda hard to know outcomes from a tiny snipet of time with a pro directing just groundwork.😂

  • @leeevers8976
    @leeevers8976 9 місяців тому +106

    He’s a beautiful horse. I applaud the owner for wanting to do the work. I would like to witness his journey.

  • @carlybird3537
    @carlybird3537 9 місяців тому +24

    “How much time and how much learning are you able/willing to put into this”!!! THIS 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

  • @stephaniesmith3864
    @stephaniesmith3864 9 місяців тому +180

    Please show more of this horse. This is very relatable for those of us who buy dressage horses. We see this pattern a lot so seeing how you take the groundwork to the under saddle work would be great.

    • @flowersgardens4057
      @flowersgardens4057 9 місяців тому +6

      Agreed!

    • @DB-bw1tg
      @DB-bw1tg 9 місяців тому +16

      They're breeding them way to hot. Totally agree.

    • @louisecassidy5991
      @louisecassidy5991 9 місяців тому +8

      "Those who buy a dressage horse......."
      It rarely works well. One MAKES a great dressage horse! But this was a jumping horse, must know a bit.
      Seems to me some horses do not take kindly to changing hands/environment, and I don't blame them.
      This lady holds him too close, so he has no chance to relax. Same reason I hate cross-ties, the horse cannot so much as shake off a fly. Yet most people use cross ties.
      Horse is just pushing her around because he can, then ups that game. He is too good for her for sure. If there is fear, apprehension, the horse knows.
      There is much more money about than horse-sense, and no matter how great the trainer, horse goes back and soon remembers who he had been bluffing. You can pay for tips and tricks and methods, but you cannot buy horse sense.

    • @Cla-ev1xp
      @Cla-ev1xp 9 місяців тому

      Very negative viewpoint in this case. While I agree that happens often, this woman clearly wants to learn, and is listening. It is possible to learn how to handle a hot horse.​@@louisecassidy5991

    • @ATBarrelRacing
      @ATBarrelRacing 9 місяців тому +2

      @@louisecassidy5991you should be able to hold them close, you can see that he was trying to step all over her.

  • @stormmary1
    @stormmary1 9 місяців тому +20

    Wonderful horsemanship! And what a truly lovely horse. Credit to the owner for making a good start on rehabbing him and seeking good help when needed.

  • @haleykay776
    @haleykay776 9 місяців тому +141

    Finding the right trainer is imperative.... we need Ryan to clone himself 😂

  • @fawnfarrier5139
    @fawnfarrier5139 5 місяців тому +36

    This guy is super aware. He kept eyeing the camera operator. This horse will absolutely be a gem of a partner for someone he trusts and respects.
    He's willing to work with her.

    • @kingdomfreedom8323
      @kingdomfreedom8323 4 місяці тому +3

      Your positive attitude is infectious, I hope she reads these comments & gains confidence from such a generous & hopeful reply,knowing what is possible to achieve. 👍

  • @anandvidyasagar
    @anandvidyasagar 9 місяців тому +71

    Definitely looking forward not just to part 2 but also part 3 and 4…
    IMHO…. The horse certainly would need some restarting and training… he certainly showed he is very very much trainable….but certainly the owner can get some training to handle him.
    I can relate to her frustration and the feeling of being cheated…. Help her Ryan…. Help her get this horse to be her dream horse.

    • @pricehouse1084
      @pricehouse1084 9 місяців тому +3

      Definently want to see more!!!:)

  • @sandyca1106
    @sandyca1106 8 місяців тому +14

    I noticed at the start how she kept control/pressure on the head, holding the rein tight, of which the horse didn't like it and kept pulling. Ryan gave a little leeway and the horse did better. Such a magnificent horse, I believe she will do right by him.

  • @kathleenkayk
    @kathleenkayk 9 місяців тому +52

    Thank you for posting this. He clearly wants a leader. He is a beautiful mover and a real stunner. I can see why she took him home. Im happy for her that she found Ryan. He is a wonderful teacher. Part 2, teaching the owner, part 3, riding? Hope so!

    • @kleineportugiesin9784
      @kleineportugiesin9784 9 місяців тому +1

      @kathleenkayk Yes. Teaching the owner is as helpful as the saying: Teach a thirsty person to dig a well, and he will be able to help himself afterwards.
      Would also like to see guided ground work with the owner before riding

    • @cindybrygman4350
      @cindybrygman4350 9 місяців тому

      Oh I like that saying! @@kleineportugiesin9784

  • @spfisterer3651
    @spfisterer3651 9 місяців тому +9

    Yes, please more from that horse. Also huge thank you to the owner for letting us watch. It helps so much with my own horse.

  • @milkanilsson129
    @milkanilsson129 9 місяців тому +53

    Looking forward to see the riding session 😊

  • @brandywineblogger1411
    @brandywineblogger1411 6 місяців тому +9

    Wow! Matching heartbeats. That totally makes sense.
    When my lay-back brother in law rode my Anglo Arab gelding in a hunt saddle, he used a long stirrup and rode him on the buckle. Almost like Western.
    My horse was calm and really dropped his head.
    When I rode him hunt seat , with a shorter stirrup, more contact and my ever-present anxiety, he perked up and had so much power. He was a flashy horse and was most always in the ribbons in under saddle classes.
    But I guess it was me that made him goofy.

  • @KristynSchlavin
    @KristynSchlavin 9 місяців тому +31

    Definitely want to see the riding session. He is a beautiful horse. Excited for him and his human.

  • @giovannagallottini
    @giovannagallottini 6 місяців тому +13

    Magnificent horse and super smart. Too much for her. Look at how he immediately respected Ryan's space whereas he could not stand still with the owner. No judgment. They are not a good match.

    • @discotheunicorn447
      @discotheunicorn447 2 місяці тому +4

      In my opinion, I disagree. He is smart enough that he won't be ruined by training mistakes, but not so smart that he becomes a logic puzzle. He's a good horse for someone to boost their training and riding skills on. After all, if you never take the difficult path, you'll never get better.

  • @debbieherring2644
    @debbieherring2644 9 місяців тому +30

    What a beautiful horse! I’d really love to see more training sessions!

  • @epona9166
    @epona9166 9 місяців тому +10

    Ryan your point about horses being in a group and picking up on the increased heart rate (and whatever else) of other horses and how they do the same thing with humans is SO POWERFUL. When people say that horses pick up on your nervousness it's frequently to make the point that they will take advantage of your lack of confidence. Or simply that if you're nervous you'll make your horse nervous -- that doesn't quite make the point either. You present it as the horse being in sync with you, and don't make it sound like an adversarial thing. It's still hugely important, but a bit of a different way of looking at it.

  • @learnin-to-fly6307
    @learnin-to-fly6307 9 місяців тому +58

    it's good that she's willing to learn and identify and address her shortcomings

    • @maplewoodfarm7096
      @maplewoodfarm7096 9 місяців тому +5

      When Ryan 'claimed his space' the horse started to listen instead of taking over. Very nice. Also the waiting in between steps seems to be huge. It's hard to do if you are out there on your own.

  • @MarieHughes-gs4vu
    @MarieHughes-gs4vu 9 місяців тому +7

    Please continue to share the progress of this horse and rider. Great job evaluating.
    Nice horse

  • @JG-mt3rp
    @JG-mt3rp 9 місяців тому +72

    I think we riders need to stop thinking safe horses exist. Love this video, would love to see his progress. This horse strikes me as having been forced into submission in a tough program, take that structure away and he's all over the place.

    • @Odontecete
      @Odontecete 9 місяців тому +23

      I was thinking the same thing. Horse has been forced to submit rather than him allowed to think through it. My OTTB was the same. Once he realized I allowed him to think through a problem rather than nervously simply submit - oh man, what a different horse! He was by far the BEST trail horse ever...never spooked, never took off, was always perfectly fine even in new environments. And curious--he LOVED riding through new places and seeing new things....specially big horned sheep. But knowing the cues the horse gives is I think the key. You learn theirs, they learn yours. And that takes time.

    • @jeanedevries1
      @jeanedevries1 9 місяців тому +7

      Another gem, Ryan. The owner is open and willing to take your instruction and she seems as she’s already somewhat familiar with your process so she should be good, once these two are more connected. Very much looking forward to seeing where you go next with this handsome horse

    • @TheWinterValkyrie
      @TheWinterValkyrie 8 місяців тому +7

      As a lifetime rider now 40, safe horses do exist

    • @JG-mt3rp
      @JG-mt3rp 8 місяців тому +3

      @TheWinterValkyrie Also a lifetime rider, 44, all I can say is "famous last words" 😅

  • @Renee-c3p
    @Renee-c3p 3 місяці тому +5

    This horse is SO clever and beautiful. Applauded the owner to reach out and build her knowledge to work with him instead of him ending up being handed off again and again.

  • @PaisleyDaskam
    @PaisleyDaskam 9 місяців тому +36

    I would love to see part 2!

  • @suechef1170
    @suechef1170 9 місяців тому +4

    Thank you ryan. I have learned so much from you and Jake in the last couple of years because I have a very difficult thoroughbred. Not only with a bad training and management history, but he also has health issues that continue to disturb him. I can't say I have had a wonderful carefree time with him, but I can say my horsemanship has improved vastly. Thanks again.

  • @joliegibbs1573
    @joliegibbs1573 9 місяців тому +24

    Loved this session ( I have never heard of the horses matching your heartbeat but that explains a lot!) . I would like to see the horse being ridden for the next episode 😊

    • @southernparadise9896
      @southernparadise9896 9 місяців тому +4

      I use a very low humming to match rhythm. It really keeps you in tune with each other.

  • @AndyTheCornbread
    @AndyTheCornbread 9 місяців тому +9

    Definitely would like to see all the sessions with this horse. Man is he a looker! His carriage in the gates around the circle, were beautifully animated. Smart too, he was picking stuff up as fast as you laid down the questions. Looks like he has a lot of try and desire to please. I'd love to watch his progress from confused to confidant. I think he is going to end up being a fantastic horse.
    I like what you said about their being varying levels at which people approach horses. It's why I am so looking forward to the rest of your colt starting videos on your patreon. I have been riding since I was three and that's almost 46 years of experience riding horses but in all that time I have never started a single colt so I haven't the foggiest how it is done. Really looking forward to the next episodes in that one as well.
    The "holes" in my training experience are actually what makes your patreon so valuable to me personally. I have trained a number of horses over the years and I grew up with a grandfather and great grandfather that ran the horse ranch I grew up on where they both raised and trained horses but I still hit "well WTH do I do with that?" moments in my training where I need to be able to ask somebody with more experience the questions of "what is going on?", "where do I go with that?", "why is the horse responding in this way?", "why haven't I seen this before?" and about a million other things when I get in a bind. Didn't mean to run long there but folks should know there is a ton of really helpful stuff on your patreon that is worth being vocal about because it could help a lot of folks get unstuck and give them better tools to handle things they encounter with their horse or horses.

  • @laraemitchell9064
    @laraemitchell9064 9 місяців тому +10

    I love seeing this. There was progress made so quickly. The owner is very knowledgeable and is so open to learning how to work things out to help herself and this horse. I’m interested in seeing what comes next.
    I won’t be handling any horses going forward. But I’m seeing where mistakes were made by me in the past. Lightbulb moments that I could have done so much more for the horses in my past. (So sorry Free Ladd. I hope you can forgive my ignorance).

  • @Brittanykennedyofficial
    @Brittanykennedyofficial 9 місяців тому +11

    This was really great, I think we sometimes forget that what WE do plays a huge role in how our horses react. I’m a nervous rider and I’m struggling with my mate right now, I know 10/10 times it’s my fault, but to see the visible difference from when she was handling him vs when you were really makes me realize I am the problem lol

  • @barbarawitt9989
    @barbarawitt9989 9 місяців тому +9

    Hi Ryan, I love your friend at The Pear Tree Ranch!! Thank you for letting us know about his channel. Of course, we love you as well!

  • @paularicciuto6985
    @paularicciuto6985 9 місяців тому +4

    Absolutely love you as a horse trainer, your patience and fairness is impeccable…. This is what makes you so brilliant a trainer. I want to see you work with him far more and help his owner. ❤

  • @ilsewatkins5357
    @ilsewatkins5357 9 місяців тому +7

    I have seen many horse trainers over the years. You are by far my favorite. I have learned so much from your videos, I love your approach and the results speak for themselves. THANK YOU1

  • @marksmith1033
    @marksmith1033 9 місяців тому +7

    Mr. Rose, i never get tired of your tutorials. Although they appear to be repetitive they are far from that. Every single video you are handling and going through your motions i manage to see the smaller details/ body language of you both/ movements of yourself and the horse during the process. Things that arent necessarily mentioned during the process due to the vast amount of information you have to show and explain while in your session. But, its because of your structure and consistency of how you do it that im able to see it, read it and understand it.
    In short, you are superb at your craft and i enjoy every video. Also appreciate you and your team Big Haus for all you do. 🤜🤛

  • @charisseayre1299
    @charisseayre1299 9 місяців тому +8

    Love to watch him being ridden. Thank you for the great job you do with all the horses, your experience and knowledge is very helpful!

  • @dinosaurwoman
    @dinosaurwoman 7 місяців тому +7

    I am honestly fascinated by how much this horse communicates with his ears. He seems to have a very good mind and just needs more time. The owner reminds me of myself. I recently bought a mare a bit on impulse, and I was thinking I would MAKE her into what I wanted. I realized I couldn't MAKE her because I was going too fast, but she could CHOOSE to be what I wanted if she was just given time, and she did it. It took over a year, and she still has her own issues, but I've learned how to deal with her and we are bonded now.

  • @angelatracy7418
    @angelatracy7418 9 місяців тому +17

    Would love to see the next session!

  • @mariamanzi07
    @mariamanzi07 4 місяці тому +2

    Incredible work!, you do really understand the horse needs. I thank her for not giving up on him... and the willing to learn. At the beginning of the video I could see how upset, distress she was, you got it straight away! and told her to be relaxed around the horse. Animals in general do absorb our feelings. Again, excellent knowledge and work. As soon you managed him it was a different horse. Think that the horse knows she's afraid of him. Keep up the teachings, are amazing. Beautiful horse!. Thank you.

  • @karenmiller129
    @karenmiller129 9 місяців тому +7

    Great RR! Yes! I definitely want to see the next session with this lovely horse and his human ❤🐴

  • @DH-gk8vh
    @DH-gk8vh 5 місяців тому +4

    I loved watching and learning about this. I've never owned a horse and have always loved them from a distance. I'm just fascinated by everything about them. Such intuitive creatures. They're intelligent though I've heard people call them stupid. I beg to differ. I'm very greatful she didn't dump him off onto someone else because he's got issues which are truly not his fault. I think this is a tremendous learning experience for her, not just about her horsemanship, but her recognizing her anxiety issues and getting them on track. Anxiety is very difficult to deal with, but this beautiful horse could end up being her comforter. I think she found her horse whisperer. I wish her the very best of luck with this incredible horse. Make him your buddy.

  • @deanjenkins4716
    @deanjenkins4716 9 місяців тому +3

    Okay I've only seen a few of his videos last few days! I absolutely love how he explains things to owners and really takes his time reading EACH INDIVIDUAL HORSE! This video actually said so much about any horse and the issues owners MOST LEARN!

  • @qossl6727
    @qossl6727 Місяць тому +1

    What a beautiful horse and he is into communication, his owner is absolutely right seeking help, the perfect move to have a long and good time with this lovely horse, all the best for you and your gorgeous companion

  • @kathleenjantzen5387
    @kathleenjantzen5387 9 місяців тому +5

    This horse is exactly what mine was! I had to learn to let him have lots and lots of soak time. I also am reap😅being w the slightest response to the try. He now connects much quicker now. I also had to learn as part of the release not to stare at him and also release him from my eye pressure.
    My other issue was to remove my check list of. This is what we are doing today no matter what. I had to also learn to have a confident demeanor from the moment i came down the driveway bc this horse reads my face, body and energy like a book. He has accepted me now as the leader and has gone from refusing to load to self load.
    I am kind in my approach but firm as well that I will protect him and lead him.
    Yes please show the next riding video.

  • @Silent-Moon
    @Silent-Moon 5 місяців тому +2

    I'm sold. You make sense. Very insightful and relatable. Thank you. I totally just learned about my own psychology through this demonstration. Thank you for shining a light on my blind spots. Yes, please show the riding session. It is helpful to see the progression of trust building.

    • @Silent-Moon
      @Silent-Moon 5 місяців тому

      It's Poly Vagal Psychology, one heart responds, all do. Check out Stephen Porges or Deb Dana, poly vagal will explain the herd mentality.

  • @jeniferrinehart1107
    @jeniferrinehart1107 9 місяців тому +20

    Next session, please!!! Would love to see how he does under saddle. Also, totally empathize with controlling your emotions and fear. Glad she is getting expert assistance!!

  • @ellienorrie2235
    @ellienorrie2235 Місяць тому +1

    Nice Horse , and fair play to the lady for shouting out that she needs help. She wanted a land rover and got a Ferrari .Hopefully Ryan can put them together to create a partnership. It’s very rewarding when you can get a partnership with a more complex and difficult Horse. Good luck 🍀👍

  • @4lb280
    @4lb280 8 місяців тому +4

    "Everybody has a different theory" is right. I have 2 geldings, both in their 30s now, both rescued from kill pens, both amazing horses. I don't ride them much anymore, as I am older now too. I get a lot of joy from grooming and just being with them, but I miss being on them. I'm thinking about a Tennessee Walker. Easy ride for my aging bones😂

  • @alirainwater786
    @alirainwater786 9 місяців тому +9

    I'd love to see more and definitely see how he goes under saddle. Looks to me he just needs a confident leader with a plan.He's not showing anything extreme with you handling him. I'm glad to see the owner sought out your expertise, with some consistent work/change on her end they should do well.

  • @susanedwards7993
    @susanedwards7993 9 місяців тому +8

    Absolutely would like to watch next steps!

  • @daltonburlison
    @daltonburlison 7 місяців тому +2

    I couldn’t agree with Ryan more. Staying calm around a horse is so important and just being able to trust that horse makes a big difference. i think she can learn a lot from this. Good Luck to the Both of you!!

  • @BritMick1012
    @BritMick1012 9 місяців тому +9

    Feel so much for this poor lady, she was obviously misled :( So glad she found you though! Would love to see more.

    • @w.limoke1790
      @w.limoke1790 9 місяців тому +3

      Its also a chance for her to get really great with horses and with this horse.

  • @simga5372
    @simga5372 9 місяців тому +3

    Yes, definitely, I would want to see the progress. Thank you for the learning experience.

  • @beckygossett4697
    @beckygossett4697 9 місяців тому +3

    Absolutely please show us more! I learn so much from these troubled horses.
    Go slow and wait.
    Who knew? Not me.

  • @reginaharris-burbank683
    @reginaharris-burbank683 9 місяців тому +4

    This is great,he is very smart and if she is predictable and consistent on the ground she will be golden. Love this waiting to see next session with this horse thankyou Ryan

  • @kimdavis2508
    @kimdavis2508 9 місяців тому +5

    He is a “Charles in charge”! He is way too much for this lady. She is already scared of him and he knows it. He knows he can push her all around, rear up, strike. This is just a sample of what he’s going to do. She is no where strong enough to handle him. They probably aced him before she got there to ride him. Happens ALL the time. Only took one second for him to get the message from you Ryan. He needs very experienced rider. She needs very gentle horse. I’m not criticizing the lady, but I would never tell her he just needs a lot of training and time. That would not be truthful.
    I appreciate you Ryan. All I can say is You Da Man 😎

  • @bonniekarpiak6025
    @bonniekarpiak6025 9 місяців тому +1

    Wonderful trainer. Good for you on getting this help. I am sure things will steadily improve with him for you. Just be calm and steady. Loved how he came over to you to say thanks.🐎💌

  • @melissanorris6010
    @melissanorris6010 9 місяців тому +3

    Another awesome video Ryan, we'll explained, your videos have really helped me in my horse training journey, thank you!

  • @carolannwilliams9512
    @carolannwilliams9512 9 місяців тому +2

    I would love to see the next training session ! Please ! I love Ryan's methods , they seem to embrace clarity for the horse .

  • @sandyfarley260
    @sandyfarley260 9 місяців тому +6

    This horse is so gorgeous! I'm so glad she's willing to work with him rather than getting rid of him!

  • @BalticLab
    @BalticLab 6 місяців тому +2

    9:04 Most important lesson right there! As an inexperienced rider I was naturally very insecure and nervous. Particularly my sisters horse, who usually is the herd leader, was basically impossiblefor me to handle, he'd go nuts to the extend of being uncontrollable at the slightest noise / unexpected movement. Of course, he is the herd leader and his job is to be alert and protective. And he stepped in that role with me because he could sense that I clearly wouldn't provide those things for him. Fast forward, 5 years later, wecan walk through a crowd, havea honking car behind us, etc. without him even caring much. His character hasn't changed one bit, but now I give him security and he trusts me in what I do. 12:06 is the second most important lesson in the video. Just absense of reaction can do magic. If you act scared, are higly reactive to things happening, etc. he'll mirror you. Me being honestly scared of my sisters horse, put him on high alert. He doesn't understand it's him I am reacting to, he senses danger.

  • @marysalmon1592
    @marysalmon1592 9 місяців тому +3

    I noticed watching you the horse calm in minutes I believe your energy is so different then the owners. Calm and clear relating to the horse

  • @tonyarussell8419
    @tonyarussell8419 8 місяців тому +1

    That’s one beautiful horse. He is so clever! Ryan you explain the psychology of your methods so well . Looking forward to watching the next episode when he’s ridden .

  • @denaross
    @denaross 9 місяців тому +8

    I would be very interested in watching the progress in with this handsome fellow - he seems super smart and very willing.

  • @lorianbazley9088
    @lorianbazley9088 9 місяців тому +3

    I know nothing about horses and have recently begun watching this sort of content. Very interesting. Horses appear to learn quickly? So, if an owner is directing it incorrectly then the horse responds to that direction. Very tricky when the owner is unaware of the incorrect direction being given. And they are genuinely upset with the situation they are in with temselves and the horse. Horse and owner both suffering until help is sought. So good to see that people care enough to seek guidance. Heartwarming indeed. Care is up there as one of my top values.

  • @abbykoop5363
    @abbykoop5363 9 місяців тому +3

    Yes please. Would love to see how you progress with this horse. I learn every time i watch your videos.

  • @jmwhorsemanship
    @jmwhorsemanship 9 місяців тому +3

    This looks like an easy horse to teach things you don't want them to know! Not a "high spirited" horse, just a sensitive one.
    I would love to see a riding session with this horse.
    If the owner is invested in a long journey, i would recommend taking lessons with a safe horse to solidify herself as a leader, both on the ground and in the saddle, while Ryan works with her horse until he understands pressure better and gains a little more confidence in humans. Then, in a few months or so, start learning to apply what she learned to this sensitive horse.

  • @yulrodriguez2178
    @yulrodriguez2178 5 місяців тому +3

    Amazing his reactions to receiving the new touch compared to when arrived...

  • @valeriehudson7276
    @valeriehudson7276 9 місяців тому +1

    Excellent comment "How much work do you want to do " this horse has such an attitude to begin with; I really empathize with new owner. His eyes and ears tell me he is invested in doing his agenda - there are a lot of horses more responsive with willingness. I look for curiosity too & not reactive - Good luck to all 3 of you - - really enjoyed watching this thanks Ryan.

  • @tinalorin9962
    @tinalorin9962 9 місяців тому +8

    Would love to see the riding session!

  • @toriwolf5978
    @toriwolf5978 7 місяців тому +1

    Yes we want to see how you do riding this horse❤she is a really sweet person , she deserves a great horse so glad you’re working with her… it is a buyer beware market not everyone is honest when selling a horse and all their issues , wil be looking forward to more videos Ryan iis the best person for the job he is amazing……

  • @Tonya-fz4er
    @Tonya-fz4er 7 місяців тому +5

    Look at that horse! Kicking at the dirt! He feels so bad! He’s so sensitive to her tattle talking about him. Sensitive to her tears and emotions. 😢
    This won’t take long to fix! This is about miscommunication and confusion. The horse is just as emotional and wanting his help as she is! Thank goodness she reached out for help and didn’t give up on him!
    Such a beautiful horse! 🥰

  • @debidevaney8398
    @debidevaney8398 9 місяців тому +1

    Yes, i would love to see the next steps for this pair. I recently bought a 2 year old quarter horse and I'll be relying heavily on Ryan for advice and training.

  • @marycanary3871
    @marycanary3871 9 місяців тому +11

    The importance of working with a trainer you trust and have a long relationship with (or a professional, well known trainer) before you even think of buying a horse and doing a PPE and keeping a horse in training when you first buy them….

  • @jessicalmcdaniel9878
    @jessicalmcdaniel9878 2 місяці тому

    Ryan Rose is the real deal. Just like Warwick Schiller….true horseman that is an excellent representative of the horse, but also possesses the uncommon ability to articulate all of their knowledge to the human too….but you can tell the horse comes first. A lot of these guys are great horseman (Buck brannaman), but don’t have the heart of a teacher. This guy does! Thank you so much for sharing

  • @emk7132
    @emk7132 9 місяців тому +6

    Knowing that it would be exactly as obvious in me, it is always so clear the fundamental horsemanship gaps of the owners and the quick difference once it is Ryan on the other end of the lead rope

  • @DebbieLiskow
    @DebbieLiskow 5 місяців тому +1

    Yes, I would like to see the next video. I see many training techniques I want to try!

  • @user-zc6jm7vb7e
    @user-zc6jm7vb7e 9 місяців тому +6

    Could most of the problem be that she is slightly 'over horsed' and as she is nervous he has picked up on that and has started to take advantage?

  • @benjaminwilliams3568
    @benjaminwilliams3568 8 місяців тому +2

    Without seeing the complete video. This woman is responding to her very pushy horse extremely well. I like she stands her ground when the horse trys to push her aside, and when the horse starts wandering she redirects the horse to let the horse walk off the tension it's feeling.
    She is a very good horse owner, I hope there's follow up videos regarding this horse. ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

  • @fion1flatout
    @fion1flatout 9 місяців тому +4

    She's absolutely right about videoing ourselves. I've had someone video my pony driving down the road completely happy and I thought stress free... But the video was shorter than I expected, which proves I was not that relaxed at all

  • @jennifermiller3301
    @jennifermiller3301 5 місяців тому

    I LOVE this training narration. I learn so much by watching, listening, observing and trying to understand the explanation. Wonderful teacher in Ryan, and terrific horse owner for reaching out for guidance!! We all learn from the owner's outreach effort to Ryan! Kudos to whomever is filming!!

  • @VivianPatterson-k2r
    @VivianPatterson-k2r 9 місяців тому +10

    Definitely want to see more.

  • @lisakovic5256
    @lisakovic5256 9 місяців тому +1

    Please yes! Show more of the big boy, I love him 😍 can’t wait to see more of his journey.

  • @aleb_equine
    @aleb_equine 9 місяців тому +4

    awesome horse amazing when the change happens once Ryan handles him

  • @lesleyrobertson2152
    @lesleyrobertson2152 9 місяців тому +1

    Always want to see more of every horse- I love seeing their progression. In this case would also love to see the owners progression and increase in confidence with him. Both horse and rider seem smart and want to learn. I think they could be a great pair with your help.

  • @kimberlynads
    @kimberlynads 9 місяців тому +2

    Yes! Of course we’d love to see the next steps with this big guy ❤

  • @AnD-ev1by
    @AnD-ev1by 9 місяців тому +4

    Looking forward to part 2!

  • @kathyberger6650
    @kathyberger6650 9 місяців тому

    Definitely want to see the next step in this process with him. Beautiful horse and would love to see the outcome! So thankful the owner sought you out, not many would try to find help. And this horse deserves a second chance. You’re an amazing trainer! 💙🐴

  • @DebsAngelBabies
    @DebsAngelBabies 8 місяців тому +3

    He just needed a leader to show him the right way, good luck with him. 💙

  • @melschevelle
    @melschevelle 9 місяців тому +1

    Processing time. He is so right. This is important for horses and we so often forget. My new draft needs this and I’m learning about it. Good stuff