HOW TO INSTALL THE SNARE RAIL AND NEW WIRES ON A ROGERS DYNASONIC SNARE DRUM
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- Опубліковано 1 жов 2020
- Hello everyone. Here's a vid on topic for which I have received many requests asking me to make an instructional video. LOL! HOW DO YOU SET UP THE DYNASONIC SNARE RAIL? IN this video I discuss how to remove the Dyna-Sonic snare rail, install new wires, and re-install the snare rail. The re-installation section has details specific to HOW to setup a Dyna-Sonic snare rail so it sounds good, and gives the drummer the legendary snare sensitivity for which the Dyna-Sonic is famous. Includes string measurements that will help greatly in setting this drum up properly. I hope this helps, as I have used this method to set up many a Dyna, and it has always worked.
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Thank you Kenny ....I Bought one of these a year ago never realised how I needed to set it up ....brilliant video ....followed the advice it sounds amazing and the bass player noticed how there’s very little rattle ....
That makes me unbelievably happy to hear. This vid was a straight up labor of love. Thank you so much for watching, and hopefully subscribing.
@@KennySharretts hi Kenny I’ve just re-fitted mine with a Gibraltar wood hoop .mine is the same as your original one in wood with the dark blue mother of pearl finish …I got it half price it was brand new because the wrap was rinkled so I removed the wrap sanded it then finished it with hard wax oil it looks beautiful and after watching your set up video it sounds incredible….really really incredible….I also use a Yamaha ead at home in my loft for my low volume practice kit with low volume cymbals it’s great for learning songs for the band and practicing…your video on the ead was excellent really informative…
That tuning and elimination of the sympathetic snare buzz is beautiful. That drum is a killer!
Thank you. Agreed. I love these snare drums. This, and my Ludwigs are all I need. Well that, and my 14 other snares. LOL! But yeah this is an outstanding drum.
I just bought the rogers dynasonic 8x14 brass snare. Thanks for this awesome video
My pleasure. Maaaaan that’s an awesome snare.
I have a COB 6.5 Dyna that I bought in ‘77, and it’s been a problem child ever since! Thank you for bailing it out - priceless advice!
Thank you so much for the kind words, and for watching. As i’m telling all my viewers Super Thanks is now available on my videos to help support my YT channel 🤘🏻
Thanks, with your help i was able to set up my 1975 big R chrome over brass 6 1/2...set up properly for the first time in 15 years
To hear this makes my day. I'm still fine tuning the process, but this has served me well so far lol! If I make updates I promise to post a video. Thank you for watching, and thank you for commenting. Moments like this are one of the reasons I started this channel.
Kenny, you are YT Gold. Way to go!!!
Thank you so much for the kind words, and for watching. Please note that the thanks button is finally active on my videos . 🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻
Kenny, Nice video. I was hoping to see the initial setting of the main adjusting knob on the strainer. Mine is maxed out, so need to loosen (half way?) Before starting the adjustment process. Also, better close-up photography ... better focus ... would be helpful.
Thank you, David
As always Kenny a informative video. Much love from the uk.😘🥁🌻
Thank you so much. As always THANK YOU for watching!
Fantastic video Kenny, thank you!
Thank you so much, and thank you for watching 🤗
hey Kenny tnx for sharing. Just bought my new Dyna 6.5 and loving it. I'm not new to this ( I got also an old steal dyna) but still having some issues getting it right . can the dyna snare sound at it best even in low tuning? how would you go about tuning the drum itself.. ? tnx again!!
Excelente instrucción. Gran Dynasonic de Rogers. El mejor del mundo.
🙏🙏🙏🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻
Subbed. Thank you
Thank you 😊
I have an all original dyna sonic and my bridge does not look like yours and neither does my rim. I don't have the rubber ends on mine like yours does and my rim were you adjust the snares is a round circle, I am noticing also my snare wires aren't right for my bridge. Were can I get roger snare wires. Glad I watched your video.
First of all thank you for watching.🤘🏻 Secondly if you use the string measurements from the video that should give you a great starting point to get the wires right. I’ve used the measurements on 3 other Dyna setups, and the drum setup quite easily. Finally, you can get new wires that fit your frame direct from Rogers/Big Bang.
One of the greatest snare drums
ever. I got a metal 5×14 seven line from 1964. Awesome Lol !!!
Love those drums.
Tengo tarola Rogers 14 /5 vendes el riel con entorchado y aro de abajo saludos
Thank you so much for this video. Would this work for the dw true sonic snare?. It has a similar snare rail like this as well. And I’m interested in getting the dw but no one has talked about the rails of those drums but you..
Thank you so much for the kind words. I haven't setup a DW True Sonic snare yet so I do not know if these settings will help. I do know I love my Dyna-sonic snare drum.
I'd go with the Rogers. Dw got the idea from Rogers.
@@jamescook6406 it's an amazing drum indeed. Absolutely love it.
Hi Kenny. Like another one if your viewers im having an issue with the snares off. Randomly the snares rattles against the head. Any ideas on what I should be doing to fix this ?
Yeah it’s a fine line, and yes I do. I’m about to go into studio with my 5” Dyna that’s still factory set so i’m going to take some notes so it’s a 100% process.
Btw it’s often because the rail is too high. Loosen the rail a bit, while tighten the wires a touch, and see if that helps.
Hey Kenny. Is the stock reso head decent (it’s remo but not sure which) or do you recommend changing it day one? I got one arriving next week. Thanks man
The stock head is great. It’s a Remo diplomat straight up. Awesome on getting a Dyna. You will love it. I still have the stock head on 2 of mine. It’s time to change em soon, but they are still killing it. Thank you for watching, and commenting.
@@KennySharretts thanks brother! Keep up the vids. Love ‘em!
O have a snare Rogers Dynasonic. Its beautifull
Agreed. They are awesome snares.
I'm having a hard time with a couple of mine. I don't think the rail was ever set right and I get sympathetic buzz and have to choke it sometimes, so I'm not starting from the same good state. It would be really cool to see this same video but starting completely from scratch without the snare side head leveled, snare rail loose never setup, etc.
Odds are it’s a matter of finding balance between the rail strainer, and the wire tension. Try tightening up your bottom head to tight, but not mega tight. The head should sing when tapped. Then try the string measurements in the video to set up your rail. I do have a video coming out soon that covers installing the Reso head from scratch. Thank you so much for watching.
FYI. I just learned that the old Dynas that use the exact same rail used to have an elastic string mounted to them in addition to the standard strings. That elastic string was used to keep the snare off the head when in the off position. I don’t why the new ones don’t come w that but the rail has the holes for it. You should look into that to solve your problem. FYI I had the same problem but the problem went away when I changed my heads.
Great video!! I hope you can help me. I have a Dyna sonic 14x5 and I like the snares very tight for crisp ghost notes.
I can only get that crispness by having the rail extremely close to the snare head, and I've managed to get that crispness by tugging and securing the strings quite tightly on both ends
My problem is that when I turn the snares off the snares always slightly buzz as they're too close to the head!! I lowered the opposite side, but then when I engage the snares, the lowered side barely touches. HELP!!
The sensitivity on these drums is unmatched, but I really feel I'm doing something wrong. I really enjoyed your video, you're really funny
thank you so much for the kind words. This drum can be a challenge to set up so a sense of humor is a must. When this drum was sent to me I it was set up as it is at the Rogers Shop. So I took the measurements before I put on a new bottom head, and installed new wires. I've set up 4 Dynas since this vid, and it's worked for all of them. This method can leave it A TOUCH closer to the head than I like so I encountered the same issue at first. I had to have the tension dial set exactly where it was when I made the marks. I like the frame snug as well. The frame should look a bit tilted when disengaged with the tensioner side lower than the butt plate side. Have you tried these measurements?
Did you ever get this issue resolved? I just a 5 x 15 and it’s doing the same thing. If you got it resolved please let me know how you did it. Thanks
@@eddieavakian Hello mate. I never got it solved, I just kept tinkering until it was the best it could be. I can only play with snares off very lightly. Fair trade off for those crispy ghosties. Let me know if you find a solution! I also unscrewed the little plates on the bottom hoop either side of the snare bed.
My crappy method is to have the drum mounted on the stand, then sit underneath and balance the rail by eye, and keep experimenting. There's definitely a sweet spot. I also recommend getting the pure sound snare wires for dynasonic. The stock rogers one will start snapping wires when you crank the tension.
Sorry to not be more help!
@@tadhg3 thanks for the reply. I’ll see if I can figure it out. If I do, I’ll get back to you and let you know how I fixed it.
@@tadhg3 so I put the stainer dial halfway and then loosened the butt plate stings so the rails clears the drum a little more than before. Then I found a good balance for the strainer tension. So far this is working but you need to find the sweet spot.
It may be time to get me a Rogers Snare... maybe... I may need to go outside the Spaun collection...
Bro I loooove Spaun drums, and his designs, but this snare is an essential sound to have in the collection. Just so unique, and so good. Thx as always for watching.
CAN you use the Strap on these Uncle?
Alas no.
Yeah the Ohio made…….
Actually no these new Rogers drums are excellent world class craftership psychologically though…?
Does it Rogers include an owners/set up manual with each drum sold?! I know mine came with one back in 1970!
Yes it does, but Rogers asked me to a video, so I was happy to oblige. 🙏
@@KennySharretts : OK thanks!
An absurdly and unnecessarily complicated, archaic piece of technology. I still can’t believe they brought this back. In fact, I can’t believe they ever made it to begin with. Those old Dynas have a great sound, but there is no way a standard snare bed and snare wire system would change that sound a bit. The tone comes from the drum, not from this bulky piece of hardware.
While I do not disagree that the fundamental source of the Dyna-Sonic’s legendary sound is the shell (just listen to a Re-Issued wood Super Ten) , there is an undeniable sweetness to the sound of a Dyna because of that “archaic” rail. They can be a challenging to set perfectly, but when you do? Pure, rich, buttery, pillowy, snare greatness. Both in sound, and playability. When I first got my re-issue, I played about 50 gigs in a row where all the sound engineers for those gigs walked up after the first set, and all said the same thing : “ What kind of snare is that? That’s the best sounding snare I’ve ever mixed”. With that being said, if you love the tone of these drums, but don’t want to mess with the rail check out the re-issued Super Ten’s. They are amazing!
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