I want Amazon to know that I am also a lazy shit writer with terrible ideas and I will be the showrunner for the remainder of the series for 1/4 of what Amazon is paying both DeKay and Pain-in-the-Ass.
I'm an even worse writer, and I'll be the showrunner for the remainder for twice of what you're charging. Amazon knows a bad deal when they see one, and with their track record, will surely go with the worst!
My theory is that her husband, Celeborn, isn't dead, missing, or captured or anything. He just noped the hell out of there to escape an abusive relationship with this show's version of Galadriel.
Celeborn:" So Gladys... I'm going out with my mates to fight some orcs. I reckon I'll be right back." Guyladriel:" But dear husband, your armor doesn't fit and your blade is dull." Celeborn:" Oh, yes, well... there'll be a blacksmith or something at the battle I'm totally going to."
People like you responsible for ROP. You liked Jackson's films because you were five and watching with your Mummy or something and didn't appreciate the story had been radically altered from the original. Amazon saw that you could get away with dumbing-down Tolkien and did ROP. They would not have dared to otherwise. Now a new generation of kids will grow up loving ROP and seeing that as the "original" story and people like you will be increasingly older and forgotten. But you are just as bad as they are - you let a hack trash a classic story and facilitated corporate greed-it is your fault, stop whining.
I'm pretty sure the reason for why galdriel never suffers any backlash for her behaviour is because the writers don't consider her behaviour to be wrong. I'm pretty sure the writers think that this behaviour conveys strength and any man acting like this would be respected for it. And since the only way these writers are capable of portraying a strong women is to strip all femininity off her and replace it with masculine traits we get this character that the writers reflexivly insist on calling galadriel.
I can imagine the majority of showrunners are narcissist and only live in their bubble, and probably corrupt people. With that huge amount of money and plenty of time for preparation, they only manage to give us a mediocre quality from every aspects; writing, editing, acting, costume choices.
So the writers think a strong female character is one with masculine traits, and since the only masculinity they are even aware of is toxic masculinity, they made a toxic masculinity Galadriel? Checks out.
Of all the characters they decide to load with "toxic masculinity" traits to push their woke feminist ideology they choose a fae enchantress/queen of fairies figure who was such a powerfully feminine character. Come to think of it, that's probably specifically why they did it. The entertainment industry is in dire need of a house-cleaning to get rid of everyone who can't create art without it being obvious who they vote for when you watch it.
@@PeterDB90 no, this is a terrible take. It's pretty clear the writers are building for future character revelations and changes, ya'll whine too much when the answers are pretty obvious.
At the beginning of GoT I despised Jamie, but at the end he was one of my favorite characters, bcuz of his journey through self realization. Great point u brought up 👍
To be fair, Helbram is Sauron. So him being fine after taking a massive wound is no issue. In fact, in a good or competent show, the characters would comment on how weird it is that even after taking massive wounds, he is seemingly fine and has no issues.
This is true. I really should have put it that way... that the other characters didn't respond in such a way to make it seem like it was incredibly abnormal that he would recover that quickly. Although, I can't remember if it seemed like Galadriel had that one elf go investigate the southland's kings. But now that I'm thinking of that... I don't know how Galadriel wouldn't know that the southland king's lineage had been broken. Also, if she didn't know, why it took her so long to pose the question about Halbrand actually being the king in the south... I hate the show so much. Galadriel is a dumb*ss.
@@mrrerechannel To answer your question, she did know. Courtesy of Sauron himself. But since the lady is now a Karen, she just wouldn't take no for an answer and when finally confronted with her own stupidity, she blamed the very honest and forthright man who has been telling her since day 1 he is not king and the supposed "evidence", was something he took off of a corpse. But hey! Karen right?
Even if he is Sauron, it's a Sauron in a human body, who NEEDS to find a way to become fully powerful again after the fall of Morgoth. That's why he forge the ring, he is in Middle Earth in a mortal body, so he is tied to mortal rules. The only thing that's different from a mortal is that even his body is killed his soul remains alive, that's why he always come back
I was confused early on, about why Guyladriel didn't dispatch the sea monster, as she can kill any monster with a single blow. Then the theme of the show became obvious. Nobody gives a crap about anyone else. Everyone is a narcissist and enjoys seeing their comrades die. It's amazing that these characters have bothered to build a civilization. Essentially, they are orcs, but without a unifying will, forcing them to work together.
@@Quincy_Morris morality is determined by your belief system. Morality is relative. Fron yiur viewpoint, they have moorals, from their viewpoint, you have no morals.
I have had enough of TROP, the writers are not storytellers. So Galadriel is responsible for all of Middle-earths wars and deaths and destruction since the second age! Talk about not knowing your source material. Probably one of the greatest character assassinations in tv history.
Thats what u get with heresy, We called this in Exsurge Tolkien, since 25 March, now its a full apostasy of power, The evidence is clear, and none can deny that "ROP" is not of Tolkien. Our EXSURGE TOLKIEN that makes robustly clear the heresy of the showrunner's mouths and hearts. They probably know nothing of Tolkien's masterpiece, as evident from their interview in the Vanity Fair Article. For "they who proclaim to loveth Tolkien, yet understandeth, not his world view can neither hope to create a new film, show, or series of his secondary world." "Auta i lóme!" and" Aurë entuluva!"
@@NovRen19 speaking of heresy, McKay called the Rings the Nuclear Bomb of Middle Earth, an allegory Tolkien shot down in the 50s in one of his letters and in an interview in the 60s. If they knew or respected Tolkien they never would have used that analogy but it shows they neither know or respect Tolkien.
@@RoninDave that is a fantastic point, and continues to show why the showrunners were in the heresy of ignorance before the Vanity Fair Article. They havd done this by design are are now simply click baiting the phandom out of spite. Its very sad. Come join us.
@@artoriuscinggisqahan382 even more than that its trash & heresy, Heresy eventually perishes after it's lies are made naked and clear upon the sight of those it hopes to blind! We must stop watching this even for negative publicity because it feeds the amazon rating system. Take heart and join us for our EXSURGE TOLKIEN counter rings of power heresy series on our channel. It will be a happy thought in these dark times.
Even if you divorce this from canon and just view RoP as an alternate timeline it still sucks. I managed five episodes and just can't bring myself to view anymore. The show did give me one good laugh though so I'll give credit where credit is due. The part where Guyladriel is riding the horse along the beach in Numenor made me guffaw loudly because I genuinely thought they had switched to a Tampax commercial. It took me several seconds to figure out that I was still watching the show. So, kudos to whomever did that scene because I really needed a good laugh to wake me up from this otherwise boring train wreck. Seriously, who else could make a train wreck boring?
It is divorced from the canon, you oaf. What, you thought this show took place in Tolkien's world? LOTR isn't even part of Tolkien's canon, because it is a movie adaptation. And there is no canon; Tolkien created a mythology and a Legendarium. Calling that canon like it is some stupid marvel comic is dumb.
When Galadriel and the 300 Numenoreans teleport to Middle-Earth with their horses, you'll notice they're charging with sun setting and to their back. In the very next scene when they magically arrive at the exact town in the Southlands they needed to be in, they're charging into the sun. The shadows indicate that. So, the only reasonable explanation is they either were riding in circles or rode past the town, just to make a 180 degree turn to get a nice shot of them riding into the town to save the day. The entire show is a dumpster fire
I saw that in another review. I forgot to mention it, but obviously I could have just kept going if I really wanted to point out everything wrong with the show... Completely agree!
@@mrrerechannel There's a bunch of continuity errors or scenes that contradict previous scenes. The orc vs humans battle scene is full of them. I don't know if the continuity errors were done on purpose of not. During the orc vs men battle, you see Arondir shoot the rope causing the tower to collapse. A scene or two later and the tower is still standing. During this battle, it cant decide if it's night or day since it repeatedly goes from day to night to day. One scene shows Arondir making a stabbing motion towards an orc, but in post-production, they forgot the CGI in a knife. The orcs burn in sunlight, yet during the battle scene where it's still sunlight out, the orcs don't burn up. Another is Bronwyn is shot by two arrows, but she'd only treated for one. It's insane
The show failed for a myriad of reasons, but the biggest fallacy is that it doesn't feel like an adventure and the story telling unfolds so poorly without creating any compelling characters worth following.
The ocarina music, is perfect for this. Props to the ocarina player. They have clearly put more effort into learning this instrument, than the ROP did in putting this series together.
This show was so bad it actuall hurt me to watch as a die hard tolkien fan. Almost everything about it was dreadful, there were some nice location shots and sets. Nothing even remotely good enough to redeem this dumpter fire though. I loved your take on it and that terrible recorder music playing the howard shore shire music had me laughing my ass off. My morbid fascination will no doubt drive me to watch season two though, like watching my own autopsy as a hovering ghost above my corpse. Fun vid, it made me chuckle :)
I watched this at around the same time I watched the House of the Dragon and I was so disappointed. They really butchered the lore. But yeah the show was so boring. Lol, I pray that I don't feel too compelled to watch the second season. I'm glad you like the vid! Thanks for checking it out and for you feedback!
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I didnt watch it. My friends told me about it and Ive not seen a good review of it. Ive read all Tolkeins work and I dont think I could handle watching it.
@@mikej8382 don't bother, it's a heresy. We watched it not, but give phans a full counter ROP heresy series with original quotes "Exsurge Tolkien" and a new series to enjoy (which we dedicated to him,) Dor Vahdor Lost Legends and Sagas of Preflood Earth.
If the sun on GUYladriel bugged you... What did you think of the Numenorians landing on Middle Earth in the WEST with the sun RISING behind them in the west while it's STILL night in the town 😅 basically in Rings Of Money Laundering the sun rises in the west and also.. sets in the west?
Lol, I did see that in another review. Didn't notice it in show because the entire time I was asking myself how TF they got all those horsies over on those tiny ass ships. The Rings of Money Laundering... Haha
Can we just stop for a moment and consider the fact: Between Sauron arriving in Eregion (several centuries into Second Age) and Durin's Bane awakening (year 1790 of Third age) passes around 3500 years or more. And if my memory serves me well, Mordor was formed as an aftershock from the War of Wrath at the very end of the First Age, meaning its another several centuries till balrog wrecks Khazad-Dum. Meaning, showrunners (I won't call those authors) crammed around whopping *FOUR THOUSANDS YEARS* of history into some weeks season 1 takes. That would be an unacceptable level of quality even for a fanfiction, even for a rule34 fanfiction! That's an unquality! That's like making movie about Fall of Rome and make Ramses the Second armed with musket fight Chalemagne on war elephant while Atilla pilots Enola Gay above them. Why even my cringy jest looks better than this show's timeline. It just don't... Why even care... This show is below cringe, below stupid jokes, below shite for quality, below character assassination and lore tarnishing, it a damn thing of its own. Its a singularity of everything wrong with how industry is ran. Fake or misguided passion, fake virtues worn as a camo-net, disrespect for everyone and everything, complete lack of understanding of what the heck they were even doing, lack of even basic writing skills, smudged in overbloated budget wasted on glitter instead of substance. One billion dollars. One billion dollars spent on making one of the least faithful and least quality-ful adaptation ever. Even when you expect shite, they surprise you with just how deep the brown stuff runs. Subverting of expectations by making even the worst expectation become too mild. WHAT?! THE?! HECK?!
@@mrrerechannel Indeed. The only constant of this show is that it manages surprise us with how bad it is. And on almost every turn. Dwarves were good though. One may complain about diversity casting (Middle Earth has rather homogenous ethnic groups) but that actress was good. Her role was a rare gem in this shite pile.
A friend of mine begged me to watch the show with them as it was coming out, I would not have done so under my own recognisance after the PR stuff made it clear this was an awful show... I had friends also tell me that I couldn't judge it until after I saw it... only to admit they thought it looked like bad fanfiction and so didn't watch it. ...I'm mostly watching these recaps of how awful the show was purely out of a desire to dump the mental dissonance caused by WANTING a show to be good and how awful the Rings of Power was.
There's not enough wanting to change my opinion of this show. They either need to do a complete 180, or stop making the show, because I don't think people will give it the same attention the next go round and that attention was the only reason why the show got the viewership it did.
Can we please also speak about how the actual elfen rings of power look like they came from a bubble gum machine from the 90s? I mean we have good shots of them already in the LOTR intro, why the hell do they suddenly have these big fake stones and look like no craftsmenship went into them? aren't the elfes know for beeing so good at stuff because they've practised it for centuries?
Elves do tire. Fingolfin in his duel with Morgoth eventually starts to grow weary. He is fatigued from dodging those giant grond smashes that cause holes in the earth. But only after wounding the most powerful being on earth eight times. (how epic would that be put to screen from a respectable show) * So, this chick swimming back to land is so laughable it reaches a different level
And the Amroth incident proves that elves can drown too. It's not a matter of they tire or not. That's a freaking sea, sea creatures (sea-serpent ahem ahem) might eat this Karendriel's ass.
Honestly, I want to add that it's not just about Galadriel not being able to swim back. It's also about the sea life she would definitely encounter on her way. Do you seriously want to tell me that there isn't a single carnivorous ocean predator out there?
You have to admire people who will spend years to seek out someone only to learn that they can’t recognize the one they seek when he’ standing right in front of them. That’s dedication.
The only character I could really care about, was Elendil. He’s taking so much crap from the queen, from Galadriel, having to deal with his insubordinate son, a tough job and responsibility going to war, and Halbrand making that even more difficult… I could sympathize with that, not with all those narcissistic main characters.
1:32 Galadriel is always right? The show wants to present it that way but when you analyze every one of her decisions and their impact, she's wrong nearly every time. In the beginning, she wanted to leave a soldier behind and two seconds later it turns out there's a structure they were looking for. She would have abandoned him for no reason. The next decision is she wants to continue hunting for Sauron - in the North. Had her soldiers not mutinied, Galadriel would have spent Season 1 exploring the North Pole. Then her great decision to jump ship - this led to her bringing Sauron to Numenor to the Southlands and finally to Erigion to craft the rings. In the process she gets Numenor to launch a military expedition that essentially failed as the enemy got what he wanted while they only got several of their people fried and their Queen blinded which no doubt will be used by Ar-Pharazon to usurp power and lead to the destruction of Numenor - great job, Galadriel! Then when she discovers Halbrand is (gasp!) Sauron, she continues the project that he had had his hands all over and doesn't bother telling anyone that their human assistant was the Dark Lord. Galadriel single-handedly ruined Middle Earth. Was she supposed to be the villain the whole time?
My real point is that she and everyone else act like she's always right. She never issues an apology to anyone. She's always included in the decision making, even though obviously, as you pointed out, she F's a lot of shit up. She doesn't atone for any of her sins. There are no consequences for HER for her bad decisions. Everyone's licking her boots, even though she's a dumbass. The queen regent gets blinded and people from her volunteer army get killed and then she tells Galadriel: don't worry, I'll come back with more troops to help your cause. Galadriel is just a bad leader and doesn't show any remorse for her poor judgement. Also, jumping off a ship 3000 miles away from where you're trying to get to is suicide... but it works out for her.
@@mrrerechannel it's hilarious that the show unintentionally created the dumbest and most villainous character in Middle Earth and she is still presented as being right to most of the other characters and herself!
I remember watching the first episode and thinking "What's the deal with Sauron? When the elves left the undying lands Melkor was the big deal, not Sauron. What timeline is this?" I don't know what happens afterwards, because I have only watched episode 1, but based on that the timeline is really muddled.
I think the only thing you missed was when the Orcs were chasing them through the forest and the got to the clearing and the Orcs just stopped. The Orcs were like damn if only we had a range weapon we could still attempt to kill them. They were just shooting arrows at them moments earlier. Amazon should cancel any contracts for additional seasons, pay the financial penalties and just be like “our bad”. This is embarrassing at this point. I was screaming at my TV constantly hoping it would get better. Worst prequel ever. Also way too woke. And I thought Tolkien said that elves were all pain skinned because they had no pigment because of how they were awakened. I heard that on a Reddit Battle so why is “Not-Don-Lemon” there? They should have at least kept with Tolkien Lore. Lord of the Dumpster Fire at this point.
Elves cannot die of starvation or dehydration, though they do suffer from them. We know this because Morgoth hanged Maedhros by the wrist from the top of Thangorodrim for at least 24 years until he was rescued by Fingon and Thorondor(King of Eagles). He begged for Fingon to just kill him though so he was definitely in pain likely from hunger and thirst.
Well spoken on the point! As a fan of Tolkien and his lore of middle earth i was really excited before the show aired, but got fast disappointed. Nevertheless i watched every episode in hope that the plot would develop in a good way. But it did not.
Very good video and unfortunately, Mor"mazon" has equavalently sacked the literary Osgiliath equivalent of Professor Tolkien's lore and story with season one, it is a descration of "history of the elvish speaking tongues..Get ready for a long 6 years or, ride out and meet them, the corporate machine theyocracy may have its skinny cow for now, but as we have defined on our channel in Exsurge Tolkien, now is the time to raise the beacons of Tolkien Orthodoxy and stand ready to reject any further support of ROP. To hold fast to the beautiful truth of Professor Tolkien's lore, legends and story, and to get educated and spread the joy of him through the Tolkien-verse awash in schism. Let us cross swords together and do this!.
Very well said. Did you notice when as the king was having his portrait drawn on his death bed the girl sat on his left as she drew him but looking at her drawing you could see the artists perspective represented him from a right view. How did that get past the editor? Very sloppy
Well, I missed it too. I think I fast forward thru most scenes because I despise the show. I heard about the kings portrait mishap after watching a UA-cam critic. I guess it was the last episode when the king dies if you want to check.
As I understand it, the showrunners didn't have the full rights to the other books of the Tolkien lore (i.e. The Silmarillion, etc.) so, while they could use the *characters* like Galadriel, Elrond, etc., they were prohibited from telling any of the story events faithfully as depicted from those books. Which meant they were left with either telling bits of stories that occurred BETWEEN the events in the books, that weren't explored or even alluded to in the lore, and/or inventing a whole bunch of new characters and settings to 'fill in' the gaps. And to do that, the showrunners were essentially asking the writers to compete with Tolkien himself, coming up with new stuff that matched his in terms of depth and creativity. That's a HELL of an ask, for even good quality writers - never mind the by-the-numbers mediocre ones they actually got.
Sure, but like Tariq said, it's really no excuse. If they got GOT or The Last Kingdom caliber writers, that would have been fine... and way better than what they got.
I have never read the books, so I was unaware of a lot of the background details. I didn't know the show had strayed SO from the source material. Jackson was very careful, and showed great respect to the source material. I thought season 8 of GoT was bad. lol
The lore was the reason the show instantly lost me, it was beyond infuriating..... First two scenes not only had wrong lore, but also condensed 1,000s of years in no time at all
I stoped watching after 4 episodes. My life has changed for the good! Actually, i feel sincere happiness about that fact. More happiness then what i would get from watching this to the end - for sure
I knew I wanted to make a vid roasting it after I saw the premier, so unfortunately I had to watch the rest. Although I did watch it on 2x speed because yes, it was very bad.
I thought the series would’ve been based on some random made up characters living in Middle-Earth and I would’ve been more than fine with that and was just excited to experience the world again. But instead they decided to mess with well known characters without even respecting the lore and Tolkien and then they wonder why people hate the show 🤷🏼♀️
Although I am a LOTR supernerd, I made the decision to not watch a single episode of the rings of power, and after the release of the first episode, I immediately knew I made the right decision. Lets be honest, to fill the shoes of Peter Jacksons trilogy, and even the hobbit trilogy is a big ask, and I anticipated they would not meet the same standard, but even knowing that, this show is a complete and utter joke. They should be ashamed of what they did to Tolkien's life's work. I do not consider this show LOTR connected, and even as a generic fantasy-based series, it disappoints in every way.
Yep. #2 is very much true. I didn't read any Tolkien books so I'm the last person to get offended with any changes they pulled out of their ass. I'm even a sucker for historical shows with dramatic embellishments too but you have to have basic logic for crying out loud. Villagers go to the elven tower for better defensive capabilities but then they abandon that tower and somehow didn't meet the orcs out of the one way path? And instead of running to another settlement they go back to defend their very open village that was just sacked?? Halbrand gets injured, survives riding for six days, gets healed in one and is immediately strong enough to work a forge and no one suspected anything until galadriel hears celebrimbor repeating what Adar said?? dafuq. You'll feel like jackasses if you say this show is great. The shills must have been paid at least six figures to put their names on the line.
I was almost going to include the villagers destroying the tower and giving up a literal fortress, but wow there was just so much illogical stuff it made my brain hurt. Completely agree. I don't think Morfydd Clark is getting another main role.
You dont have to always be a shill just because people enjoy something that's apparently "by popular opinion" considered bad. Even when it's just the loud internet at work again.
They say they've got five seasons plotted out. Why on earth would they front-load the creation of the Three in season 1 when they know they've got five to play with? Season 1 - set up the world. Elves are growing weary, Numenor is distant, orcs are getting more active, our main cast of elves start tinkering with lesser rings. Season 2 - the first true Rings of Power are created, nine of them made to help preserve the elves way of life. Rumours swirl of a dark lord somewhere. Season 3 - seven more rings are made, suspicion and distrust swirl among the elves as they realise there's a traitor among them. Season 4 - Sauron is revealed as a background character, a mauve shirt who we've seen hanging around and being involved in the forging scenes but never really focused on. The Nine and the Seven are seized, the season ends with the Three being forged and Eregion's destruction. Season 5 - War of the Last Alliance. Boom. Job done.
I love how I wrote a fair review of the show, commenting both on things that I thought were good and things that weren't. Not published. Thanks Amazon. Keep paying all the shills at these online rags to write glowing articles about your stupid show, but more people will stop watching. Because it's just not good. And the worst thing of all is Galadriel-nothing like the book AT ALL, and so annoying. The Galadriel in the BOOK IMMEDIATELY distrusted Annatar (oh, Halbrand because I guess the show didn't have the rights for the real Sauron name).Not here, though. And I couldn't agree more about the Harfoots. Snooze. I just wanted to kick them down a gully and set them on fire.
Galadriel was taught by Melian, and such wisdom she carries when that happened was not even shown in this pathetic series of Rings of Power. The part where wisdom should rule over hatred vanished. The Dialogue was also below average. When Tolkien created his characters and made conversations, you can sense the touch of poetic idioms in it, viz. Thranduil and Elrond, et al. The moment they started talking about "the boat looks above", I can't help but roll my eyes on the pale surface of dialogue making.
Nooo... I don't think "Toxic Femininity" is the right word. I think it's just bad characterization. It doesn't matter they're females, it matters that they're IMPORTANT PEOPLE IN A STORY ABOUT POWER WHO HAVE POOR CHARACTERIZATION. It's basically a fairy tale, a simple morality tale, and the good guys... aren't good. They're not brave, wise or cool... but there's times when the show implies they're supposed to be. You can't use the imagery of heroic grandeur and then have people act like base fools without any good guy for comparison. Everyone's a bad guy, which would be FINE if the show didn't use so much golden age imagery. And, yes, everything feels contrived, including the background shots.
As someone who hasn't read the book and enjoyed the movies, I thought this series has been great. I was totally unaware that Sauron was alive and actually in human form so that was a cool surprise.
Another scene that confused was when Guyladried was chasing the emo elf in episode 6. How the hell did Halbrand come from did opposite direction when they all started off from the same direction. 😅
Is it weird I enjoyed the show? There was definitely some stuff I would change like some of the story and the lore (in the show not the true lore) but I also have not gotten to know that much about the true stories. Do you know where can I learn more about them?
These are reasons why ALL MODERN TV SHOWS AND MOVIES, and not just "Rings of Female Empowerment", are terrible. You hit the spot with everthing you said here. I couldn't agree more! What a disgusting insult to Tolkien and audiences!
This is a fantastic summary! I’m trying to compile the best summaries to show my friend who didn’t watch the show and doesn’t believe me about the magnitude of how bad it is. This video is a winner! My personal pet peeve, which seems to bother nobody else (I guess it’s pretty minor compared to all the other stuff) judging from the many comments sections I have read, is that they have two warships blow up in the harbour shortly before they are supposed to go to war, nobody investigates, nobody is concerned about that, nobody is concerned about the safety of the other three ships. They’ve lost 2/5 of their full strength and they’re just gonna go ahead with their battle plan. What?! On a sidenote, it is also ridiculous that Elendil accepts the obvious BS story from Isildur and doesn’t ask any questions. OK, one more. How the hell does the guild system work in Númenor? You can become in master, therefore entitled to a badge, and discover employment in one day? Maybe the showrunners need to go study the Hanseatic League. I mean, in addition to everything else they need to study but won’t! Thanks for a great video although those high-pitched screeching flute noises traumatized my eardrums 🤣🤣🤣 but they were really the perfect accompaniment for a summary of the show!
Awesome! Yeah, that bugged me too. I just had such a short fuse with this show. I wanted to get the video done because I didn't want to spend anymore time than I had to with the material. Another thing I will say is I watched these vids to do my research on the lore and they completely shat on the Numenoreans. They were supposed to have huge ships as well. ua-cam.com/video/Wx2JI6PrXGo/v-deo.html I think the show runners were banking on the LOTR fans being extremely non-autistic, but they obviously miscalculated. I'm too autistic to be able to handle all the inconsistencies and all the things that were glossed over. I'm glad you liked it. I wish I could have made it as extensive as it maybe deserved to be, but I honestly couldn't take anymore. I had to put in the scuffed flute Howard Shore music, lol!
@@mrrerechannel I really admire the dedication of all these true fans with UA-cam channels, such as yourself, who actually watch the show so you can report on it for the rest of us! It would take a lot of patience to put together any video on a subject matter one despises, so I completely understand how you didn’t want to spend any more time on it. Thank you for the link! I will watch it later. How did they not even have a continuity editor? Tolkien was so precise about the exact dates of each event and exactly how long it would take for the fellowship to travel from point A to point B. He even made sure the times of the moon were accurate. Peter Jackson had to make some modifications such as putting in the confrontation with Shelob shortly before the Battle of Pelennor Fields, but he was careful enough with it that it was plausible. It’s almost like these show runners couldn’t even be bothered. I watched the review of the first episode and I thought the reviewer was joking when he said Big G jumped off the ship and is now in the middle of the ocean. I think somebody checked on a map and said it would be 3000 miles for her to swim back to the shore of Middle Earth. “ it’s going to be difficult for her to make it.” “ no, it’s super easy. Barely an inconvenience.” I can’t wait for the pitch meeting for ROP! In case you don’t know what I’m talking about, there is a hilarious channel called “pitch meetings” that has 5 to 8 minute long videos on approximately 400 movies and TV shows. And they’re all very, very funny!
@@dronesclubhighjinks I'll go check them out. I really appreciate it. Hopefully all of the fuss the fans have made will be enough to convince Amazon to scrap the show, or bring in Peter Jackson to save it.
Also, does anyone ever explain the black elf, hobbit and dwarf-woman? Like, it would make sense if their parent or grandparent was a Haradrim, but I don't think they ever give a reason.
The algorithm brought me here. Same sentiment the show is a travesty and we only get easter eggs of some of the most important scenes/lore in the world!
The Strong Womans [TM] can grow and develop because that would require learning lessons from mistakes, and they don't make mistakes. They start off right--despite the annoying doubts of idiot men--and they end up right. It sure does make for TV that's, uh...exciting?
I haven’t tuned in since the first couple episodes made the hair on the back of my neck stand up, it was SO remote from Tolkien… I was actually eager to see creative license taken, I have read some very intriguing fan fiction over the years that nonetheless stays within Tolkien’s cosmology, as he himself extended many of his own ideas to a place that was “non-canonical”, which can be observed and investigated in all of the many volumes of “The History of Middle Earth” published by his son, Christopher and his estate. But what they are doing here is f**king confounding. Are they honestly developing Sauron’scharacter as a vulnerable Byronic antihero? Are they for real? JRRT’s cardinal concept of good and evil did not leave much of a grey area for ambiguity, or ambivalence--or purchase for the footing of contemporary “psycho-emotive” development….These are very recent relativistic filters constructed because the notion of absolutes has become so taboo. EVERYONE must have complexity now, and something redeeming, and some kind of gestalt “backstory”. They can’t just be rotten to the core, or powermad, or monomaniacally evil… such things are regarded as “unrealistic” in todays world, - yes, okay, and they were unrealistic even when the author first wrote his work, because this was friggin FANTASY you shitwits… the only thing I ever remember reading in all of Tolkien’s words which departs from the apprehension of Sauron’s utter and total corruption (and utterly corrupting power) was how “ no thing, not even Sauron, was evil in origin” (I might be paraphrasing there slightly), along with a vague elaboration of his “fall”--an event which took place not long after the creation of the world--from the powerful being “Mairon”, which meant “ esteemed” in Elvish, to Sauron --“accursed”, the greatest and most accursed lieutenant of Melkor/Morgoth… it was this complete and total commitment to evil that made his power so dangerous, even when he veiled it with some “fair” appearance--you know, like with that, um, RING? Remember, that talisman that was so dangerous to the world that it had to be COMPLETELY DESTROYED--the thematic narrative CORE of the FAMOUS TRILOGY called “THE LORD OF THE RINGS”? Or maybe I am overlooking something.
My biggest problem with this show is logical fallacies. They went from a stone keep to a small tavern in a village because they said in the show that it’s more defensive
Lol, very funny. I kinda like what some would consider sexist jokes that make generalizations. I think it's a fun way to poke fun at opposing sexes, cultures, religions... ect.
Glad I didn't watch this. It should be deemed criminal to take a beloved literature classic, a work of art, and it's accompanying Peter Jackson film version, which is a beloved classic all on its own, then rape it, milk it, screw it, and humiliate it. It really should be deemed criminal and whoever came up with this should be tried in court.
You didn’t even mention the terrible metaphor at the beginning. Stones sink because they look down, boats float because they look up??? What does that even mean?
Actually, I would tie it to some pre-scientific nonsense akin to a lot of Aristotelian ideas from our timeline. Curious how that works - people who know science are bewildered, meanwhile people aware of the history of science would accept it. - Adûnâi
@@angamaitesangahyando685 even ancient people knew that rocks don't have eyes. that was some seriously garbage dialogue. Please do not insult primitive humans.
I hope they can sort all this crap out. I was so looking forward to this show and, like many others was left disappointed with characters, content, storyline etc etc Perhaps a change in personal for the persons behind the show, would that help perhaps?
Well personally speaking, I don't think there's too many problems with Galadriel's characterisation, she's not a likeable character, but I could feel the writers trying to portray her as an elf corrupted by darkness to the point of being too paranoid, and in that they succeeded. I wanted to hate her, but I couldn't resist looking at her face... On the other hand, I don't think Míriel and Pharazôn are vicious enough, they are too friendly to the elves, and given Númenor's history you'd expect Pharazôn to be a little more cunning and arrogant, but in the show he doesn't even look like he'll survive one season in King's Landing.
Agreed...They took my favorite story (the Hobbit and the Lord of the Rings) and turned it to something else (being nice). I am not one bit feeling sorry if it just goes a way. I am upset the tarnish J. R. R. Tolkien's work. If they did not want to make a show true to the source they should have made something different.
I challenge you to do a video on ten reasons on why the "Rings of Power" is a great show. reason being is that anyone can put down and dis something (Its easy to complain about anything) even a good show. it takes real character to point out things that are actually good in something that you may not particularly like.
Thank you for this very clear analysis. I managed one episode and then quit, I just couldn't stand it. And hating about everything else that happened, I'm glad I did. Even if you didn't read any Zolkien books, it must looks like little children trying to write for TV... it's somehow imaginative, but they just don't know ehat they're doing and make a mess out of it ... only that this is real money, and they wasted a whole lot of it
I would have been more okay with them making all of the elves black, dwarves black, or men black, but all of the races being multiracial just doesn't make sense to me.
As another die hard LOTR fan I just flat out didn’t understand how this show could have possibly been this dreadful. I guess the writers just think you HAVE to like it because it’s more lore. There was maybe 25 total minutes that were almost entertaining. While I don’t do the detailed breakdown as shown in this video the bottom line is that the show was flat out BORING!!!!
No joke I tried to watch it all the way through I said I was gonna binge the whole 6 or 7 episodes and just couldn't. After the volcano erupted I stopped watching and decided I needed a break from this show and actually binged devil's hour instead. I just wanted to watch it because it had Peter capaldi and I ended up loving it, but honestly I had trouble finishing rop I almost fell asleep through episodes and got disappointed because I would find out that im only halfway through it, ever single time. Yet I watched devil's hour within two days every time I ate and even before sleep like nothing.
Yeah, I honestly was watching this and stopped to watch HOTD. I ended up binging HOTD and getting my friends together to watch the final episode. ROP was ass.
I have to say this video is a little late to the party. I did enjoy the video but anyone who was foolish enough to see ROP knew within minutes and anyone who was intelligent enough to not support cultural vandalism knew the moment the first review came out. As much as I enjoy its mockery I think we should not even talk about it again. It deserves nothing.
Yeah, I really tried to get it out as quickly as possible. I am for sure not going to be giving it anymore air time. I almost regret doing some of the recaps, because it doesn't deserve the attention.
I am an actual Amazon employee who toils away in the warehouses, and I am deeply offended both as an "Amazonian" and as a fantasy lover. The fact the company could spend a billion dollars on this show instead of giving us top of the line healthcare is an afront to humanity itself. I had seen 20 something yell and dehumanize people 3x their age to meet metrics, its sickening. And the fact that Amazon will pay for hit pieces against Tolkien and his fans calling us a bunch of racists and fascists, no.. just no... I am so happy to see all of us united to say no more to this horrorific attack on us as a fan base and as humans
I'd venture you're meeting the wrong kinds of women then. I know they're the kind I avoid like the plague if I meet them in real life, so I have no doubt they exist - but maybe try looking in some different places to find the more genuine ones?
You realize the showrunners are male right? They wrote Galadriel to be like this. This is their idea of a stronk wahman. Meanwhile, the male characters, Halbrand and Adar are a lot more likable.
@@Nopeasaurus what is really funny is that She-Hulk is similarly terrible and women wrote her. If a man had written She-Hulk, he would’ve correctly been accused of using all the worst stereotypes of women to make her look unprofessional and incompetent both at work and in her private life. And this is the type of woman the female writers look up to or want to be. Huh?! I’ll admit they are already unprofessional and incompetent because the “plot”is pretty loose and the dialogue is slightly better than rings of power because they only have to speak contemporary language. At least the writers admitted they did not know how to write courtroom scenes although this is supposed to be a legal sitcom 🤣🤣🤣
You make a lot of valid points (and by lot I mean you changed my mind of the show from average to below average :D) but, if you are aware of how fast Elven medicine can heal a wound of Sauron in reality, then we got a problem.
The amount of absurdities, stupid plot devices contrivancies, and lack of realism is astounding :)...especialy jarring in comparison to Tolkien's source material, the guy who tried to make things as realistic as possible even planning out the Moon phases during the journey hehe :), these writers are absolute hacks! The lore inconsistencies and contradictions are ENORMOUS! The whole thing with the forging of the Rings in the show makes no fucking sense! The Rings were supposed to be this grand plan, a carefully planned intrigue of Sauron, the plot of enslave the Elves and make them Sauron's servants, he devised all the ringlore for them and taught them knowledge how to make them becuase he wanted them to rely on those magical tools so he could gain supremacy over them using the connection between the rings that were made with his knowledge and binding them with his Ruling Ring...none of that is even hinted in the show which defeats entire point of the rings' existance! The invented storylines are awful, hell beyond terrible, the whole thing with mithril and it's properties in the show some sort of 'elf cancer' killing them for some reason rotting that tree....absolutely no sense! (how in the hell a rottin tree, a blight on a different lifeform can show the elves themselves being in danger?! It doesn't help that the whole thing with hte 'fading of the elves' got mixed up with other concepts like the corruption so dark power of Morgoth or Sauron flowing out into the world and tainting the land itself, and blight upon lifeforms, and the fading of Elves as Tolkien intended which is natural process that takes thousands upon thousand and thousands of years, so not yet progressed far in Second Age setting and completely of different nature, that is spirits consuming their bodies across vast time period along with natural aging, and 'fading' as in mode of the time passage in mortal lands of other things around in the world passing away, which the elves wanted to slow down due to their love of the mortal lands), regarding the lore references, the Elves according to Tolkien DO sleep though in different mode: "…Only Legolas still stepped as lightly as ever, his feet hardly seeming to press the grass. leaving no footprints as he passed; but in the waybread of the Elves he found all the sustenance that he needed, and he could sleep, if sleep it could be called by Men, resting his mind in the strange paths of elvish dreams, even as he walked open-eyed in the light of this world." ... "With that he fell asleep. Legolas already lay motionless, his fair hands folded upon his breast, his eyes unclosed, blending living night and deep dream, as is the way with Elves. Gimli sat hunched by the fire, running his thumb thoughtfully along the edge of his axe. The tree rustled. There was no other sound." ... "It is plainly suggested that Elves do ‘sleep’, but not in our mode, having a different relation to what we call ‘dreaming’. Nothing very definite is said about it (a) because except at a length destructive of narrative it would be difficult to describe a different mode of consciousness, and (b) for reasons that you so rightly observe: something must be left not fully explained, and only suggested." And indeed they need to eat, drink etc. but they are incredibly resistant and have great endurance and vitality and are energetic so they can exert themselves far longer than normal humans but still have limitations and the whole jumping off in the near middle of the ocean was the dumbest thing indeed, hell the Elves can drown and many did: "The year was waning to autumn, and before long great winds were to be expected, hostile and dangerous, even to Elven-ships while they were still near to Middle-earth. But so great was the grief of Amroth that nonetheless they stayed their going for many weeks; and they lived on the ship, for their houses on the shore were stripped and empty. Then in the autumn there came a great night of storm, one of fiercest in the annals of Gondor. It came from the cold Northern Waste, and roared down through Eriador into the lands of Gondor, doing great havoc; the White Mountains were no shield against it, and many of the ships of Men were swept out into the Bay of Belfalas and lost. The light Elven-ship was torn from its moorings and driven into the wild waters towards the coasts of Umbar. No tidings of it were ever heard in Middle-earth; but the Elven-ships made for this journey did not founder, and doubtless it left the Circles of the World and came at last to Eressëa. But it did not bring Amroth thither. The storm fell upon the coasts of Gondor just as dawn was peering through the flying clouds; but when Amroth woke the ship was already far from land. Crying aloud in despair Nimrodel! he leapt into the sea and swam towards the fading shore. The mariners with their Elvish sight for a long time could see him battling with the waves, until the rising sun gleamed through the clouds and far off lit his bright hair like a spark of gold. No eyes of Elves or Men ever saw him again in Middle-earth. Of what befell Nimrodel nothing is said here, though there were many legends concerning her fate." There you go we have an example of an elf who was still far far closer to the shore and still drowned trying to swim across large distance in uneasy waters.
Well, sheesh! I didn't know that about the elves. I guess they really don't need to sleep... my bad. But I completely agree with you. Obviously you know more about the lore, so the show was probably more infuriating to you. But yeah, I really hope they get some show runners that have actually read the source material and really understand it.
@@mrrerechannel well the quotes that I gave say that they DO sleep the line about different mode of consciousness and all that, and Legolas in story eventually also needs laying down to sleep, the Elves after all do have beds, pillows, blankets :) or use furs to cover themselves etc. they need rest too and have dreams while sleeping, hell in Silmarillion important plot point is thanks to two elves being asleep :), "But Ulmo coming up the river laid a deep sleep upon [Turgon and Finrod] and heavy dreams; and the trouble of the dreams remained after they awoke, but neither said aught to the other, for their memory was not clear, and each believed that Ulmo had sent a message to him alone." The Silmarillion, Quenta Silmarillion, Ch 13, Of the Return of the Noldor As was said the Elves have greater stamina and energy that will take a long time to exert and get tired but they do have limits, and eventually their strength runs out. Yeah when it comes to lore there is a LOT of contradictions and changes and alterations which make little sense in context of Tolkien, sometimes so serious they break the actual 'cause and effect' chain, like in Tolkien's world the discovery of mithril directly leads to establishment of Eregion the neighboring elven realm to Moria, but the show completely disregards that: "Later some of the Noldor went to Eregion, upon the west of the Misty Mountains, and near to the West-gate of Moria. This they did because they learned that _mithril _had been discovered in Moria. The Noldor were great craftsmen and less unfriendly to the Dwarves than the Sindar; but the friendship that grew up between the people of Durin and the Elven-smiths of Eregion was the closest that there has ever been between the two races. Celebrimbor was lord of Eregion and the greatest of their craftsmen; he was descended from Fëanor." ... "750 Eregion founded by the Noldor." But this is just minor thing in the general mess with the timeline of events and so on, many things great and small are so altered and so weirdly interpreted that one wonders whether the showrunners and script writers even know the lore properly :).
My issue with it was its pacing. It's like listening to someone who never gets to the point. You lose interest and don't even care about the point anymore. The visuals helped me through the painfully slow pace. I wouldn't say I hated it, but the storytelling left much to be desired.
For those that hate the show, why did you watch it? it was already gearing up to be bad before it even released. I didn't watch it because I was skeptical about the people creating it and their ability to carry the weight of this story. Because of that I was saved from being disappointed and now I'm not an extra view that would help validate the show as "good"
You have a point. I'm probably not going to watch the next season unless they drastically change who's making the show. I think they know the show flopped, but obviously they were rage-baiting Tolkien fans to watch the show... and I got baited.
@@mrrerechannel happens to the best of us 😂 altho you are in a unique position where you create content, you might want to take one for the team for season two because if nothing else you can get some content out of it & it might save some poor souls from watching.
@@mrrerechannel you're much braver than I sir. at least its over for now, and you can relax and try to enjoy your weekend. Wishing you a nice weekend!☺ btw it was a great video, you've earned a sub out of me and I cant wait to see what you post next.
Very true. I could spend hours just on the costumes, armour and weaponry, not to mention the hairstyles especially of the elves. The wig and false facial hair on the lead dwarf and the lead proto-hobbit are incredibly obvious. I learned a lot from watching the behind-the-scenes features on the lord of the rings extended edition DVD set. Looks like nobody who had anything to do with the show watched those!
I decided not to watch it and I’m glad I didn’t. Watching the reviews does nothing to taint my enjoyment of Tolkien or the LoTR movies. It’s completely separate and I can enjoy watching this trash fire burn.
Seriously do you think she’s power-hungry because she’s giving her husband a peptalk because I knew what she meant. Clearly you don’t. If you watched all the series with her talking about is Help uniting the elves and the dwarves together to fight evil you didn’t get that.??????
It makes The Hobbit look like a masterpiece. I hate that there is nothing elvish about them, they don’t look, behave or carries themselves like elves. The way “Galadriel” snarls or whatever it is she does, is goddam awful. I need to calm down now and promise myself to not watch the next season, not good for my blood pressure.
The thing about the Sun moving to give Galadriel good lighting, it's done more than you think. The only reason we notice it in rings of power is because the rest of the show is so shit.
I want Amazon to know that I am also a lazy shit writer with terrible ideas and I will be the showrunner for the remainder of the series for 1/4 of what Amazon is paying both DeKay and Pain-in-the-Ass.
Amazon, please notice emptyhand777! He could save you a lot money and probably produce an at least marginally better product!
Yes! That could actually work! 😂 nothing can save the show, but it could be still turned into a kind of Monthy Python comedy ;)
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More like 1/400
I'm an even worse writer, and I'll be the showrunner for the remainder for twice of what you're charging. Amazon knows a bad deal when they see one, and with their track record, will surely go with the worst!
My theory is that her husband, Celeborn, isn't dead, missing, or captured or anything. He just noped the hell out of there to escape an abusive relationship with this show's version of Galadriel.
Explains alot..Elves don't die, soo..
that's obvious
@@darianstarfrog They clearly can be killed, but it would be funny if he didn't get killed and just fucked off
Celeborn:" So Gladys... I'm going out with my mates to fight some orcs. I reckon I'll be right back."
Guyladriel:" But dear husband, your armor doesn't fit and your blade is dull."
Celeborn:" Oh, yes, well... there'll be a blacksmith or something at the battle I'm totally going to."
@@christianpetersen163🤣
I had to watch Peter jacksons lord of the rings again to purge my mind of the abomination that is rings of power
That's probably what I'll have to do too.
@@Mariadragwenna spirit, heart, a celebration of language and prose.
Same!😊
So do I and it's still an absolute masterpiece.
People like you responsible for ROP. You liked Jackson's films because you were five and watching with your Mummy or something and didn't appreciate the story had been radically altered from the original. Amazon saw that you could get away with dumbing-down Tolkien and did ROP. They would not have dared to otherwise. Now a new generation of kids will grow up loving ROP and seeing that as the "original" story and people like you will be increasingly older and forgotten. But you are just as bad as they are - you let a hack trash a classic story and facilitated corporate greed-it is your fault, stop whining.
I'm pretty sure the reason for why galdriel never suffers any backlash for her behaviour is because the writers don't consider her behaviour to be wrong. I'm pretty sure the writers think that this behaviour conveys strength and any man acting like this would be respected for it. And since the only way these writers are capable of portraying a strong women is to strip all femininity off her and replace it with masculine traits we get this character that the writers reflexivly insist on calling galadriel.
I completely agree. Although I would say that if a man acted like her everyone would hate them.
I can imagine the majority of showrunners are narcissist and only live in their bubble, and probably corrupt people.
With that huge amount of money and plenty of time for preparation, they only manage to give us a mediocre quality from every aspects; writing, editing, acting, costume choices.
So the writers think a strong female character is one with masculine traits, and since the only masculinity they are even aware of is toxic masculinity, they made a toxic masculinity Galadriel?
Checks out.
Of all the characters they decide to load with "toxic masculinity" traits to push their woke feminist ideology they choose a fae enchantress/queen of fairies figure who was such a powerfully feminine character.
Come to think of it, that's probably specifically why they did it.
The entertainment industry is in dire need of a house-cleaning to get rid of everyone who can't create art without it being obvious who they vote for when you watch it.
@@PeterDB90 no, this is a terrible take. It's pretty clear the writers are building for future character revelations and changes, ya'll whine too much when the answers are pretty obvious.
I love how when Galadriel goes home after years of absence and they immediately try to to send her away cuz they’re already sick of her shit.
Lol, didn't think of it that way, but I love that thinking!
Lol. "Send her to the frontline in the first row! Maybe we get luck this time!"
What they did to her seemed like when a national politician gets 'promoted away' to the EU bureaucracy.
@@venator5”I hope she gets battlefield foot”
The best example of an arrogant character softening : Jaime Lannister now that's what I call character development.
I think even Daemon Targaryen in HOTD had some character development.
At the beginning of GoT I despised Jamie, but at the end he was one of my favorite characters, bcuz of his journey through self realization. Great point u brought up 👍
but he still ended up dying for Cerce. Simp.
@@Gmex_ONE but he ultimately ended up as he began...in Cersei's arms...so his character development was scrapped
If you cut out season 8, yes.
To be fair, Helbram is Sauron. So him being fine after taking a massive wound is no issue. In fact, in a good or competent show, the characters would comment on how weird it is that even after taking massive wounds, he is seemingly fine and has no issues.
This is true. I really should have put it that way... that the other characters didn't respond in such a way to make it seem like it was incredibly abnormal that he would recover that quickly. Although, I can't remember if it seemed like Galadriel had that one elf go investigate the southland's kings. But now that I'm thinking of that... I don't know how Galadriel wouldn't know that the southland king's lineage had been broken. Also, if she didn't know, why it took her so long to pose the question about Halbrand actually being the king in the south...
I hate the show so much. Galadriel is a dumb*ss.
@@mrrerechannel To answer your question, she did know. Courtesy of Sauron himself. But since the lady is now a Karen, she just wouldn't take no for an answer and when finally confronted with her own stupidity, she blamed the very honest and forthright man who has been telling her since day 1 he is not king and the supposed "evidence", was something he took off of a corpse. But hey! Karen right?
@@cttommy73 I hate it. She really does blame everyone else. I know people like that in real life and they infuriate me.
Even if he is Sauron, it's a Sauron in a human body, who NEEDS to find a way to become fully powerful again after the fall of Morgoth. That's why he forge the ring, he is in Middle Earth in a mortal body, so he is tied to mortal rules. The only thing that's different from a mortal is that even his body is killed his soul remains alive, that's why he always come back
All this guy says is stupid. He is an idiot.
Couldn't understand a good series right in his face
I was confused early on, about why Guyladriel didn't dispatch the sea monster, as she can kill any monster with a single blow.
Then the theme of the show became obvious. Nobody gives a crap about anyone else. Everyone is a narcissist and enjoys seeing their comrades die.
It's amazing that these characters have bothered to build a civilization.
Essentially, they are orcs, but without a unifying will, forcing them to work together.
Like much of the current day population of the modern world.
Hollywood doesn’t believe in morality.
@@Quincy_Morris morality is determined by your belief system.
Morality is relative. Fron yiur viewpoint, they have moorals, from their viewpoint, you have no morals.
That Peter Jackson comes up hugging 14 Oscar Trophies, always put a smile on my face whenever I sees it.
yes
I have had enough of TROP, the writers are not storytellers. So Galadriel is responsible for all of Middle-earths wars and deaths and destruction since the second age! Talk about not knowing your source material. Probably one of the greatest character assassinations in tv history.
Thats what u get with heresy, We called this in Exsurge Tolkien, since 25 March, now its a full apostasy of power, The evidence is clear, and none can deny that "ROP" is not of Tolkien. Our EXSURGE TOLKIEN that makes robustly clear the heresy of the showrunner's mouths and hearts. They probably know nothing of Tolkien's masterpiece, as evident from their interview in the Vanity Fair Article. For "they who proclaim to loveth Tolkien, yet understandeth, not his world view can neither hope to create a new film, show, or series of his secondary world." "Auta i lóme!" and" Aurë entuluva!"
It's so depressing.
@@NovRen19 speaking of heresy, McKay called the Rings the Nuclear Bomb of Middle Earth, an allegory Tolkien shot down in the 50s in one of his letters and in an interview in the 60s. If they knew or respected Tolkien they never would have used that analogy but it shows they neither know or respect Tolkien.
@@RoninDave that is a fantastic point, and continues to show why the showrunners were in the heresy of ignorance before the Vanity Fair Article. They havd done this by design are are now simply click baiting the phandom out of spite. Its very sad. Come join us.
@@artoriuscinggisqahan382 even more than that its trash & heresy, Heresy eventually perishes after it's lies are made naked and clear upon the sight of those it hopes to blind! We must stop watching this even for negative publicity because it feeds the amazon rating system. Take heart and join us for our EXSURGE TOLKIEN counter rings of power heresy series on our channel. It will be a happy thought in these dark times.
Even if you divorce this from canon and just view RoP as an alternate timeline it still sucks. I managed five episodes and just can't bring myself to view anymore. The show did give me one good laugh though so I'll give credit where credit is due. The part where Guyladriel is riding the horse along the beach in Numenor made me guffaw loudly because I genuinely thought they had switched to a Tampax commercial. It took me several seconds to figure out that I was still watching the show. So, kudos to whomever did that scene because I really needed a good laugh to wake me up from this otherwise boring train wreck. Seriously, who else could make a train wreck boring?
Lol, tampax commercial! Absolutely! I may actually meme that.
@@mrrerechannel Run with it!
Activision?
It is divorced from the canon, you oaf. What, you thought this show took place in Tolkien's world? LOTR isn't even part of Tolkien's canon, because it is a movie adaptation. And there is no canon; Tolkien created a mythology and a Legendarium. Calling that canon like it is some stupid marvel comic is dumb.
@@madwellmusic8995 EA?
When Galadriel and the 300 Numenoreans teleport to Middle-Earth with their horses, you'll notice they're charging with sun setting and to their back. In the very next scene when they magically arrive at the exact town in the Southlands they needed to be in, they're charging into the sun. The shadows indicate that. So, the only reasonable explanation is they either were riding in circles or rode past the town, just to make a 180 degree turn to get a nice shot of them riding into the town to save the day.
The entire show is a dumpster fire
I saw that in another review. I forgot to mention it, but obviously I could have just kept going if I really wanted to point out everything wrong with the show...
Completely agree!
@@mrrerechannel There's a bunch of continuity errors or scenes that contradict previous scenes. The orc vs humans battle scene is full of them. I don't know if the continuity errors were done on purpose of not.
During the orc vs men battle, you see Arondir shoot the rope causing the tower to collapse. A scene or two later and the tower is still standing. During this battle, it cant decide if it's night or day since it repeatedly goes from day to night to day. One scene shows Arondir making a stabbing motion towards an orc, but in post-production, they forgot the CGI in a knife. The orcs burn in sunlight, yet during the battle scene where it's still sunlight out, the orcs don't burn up. Another is Bronwyn is shot by two arrows, but she'd only treated for one. It's insane
The showrunners delved too greedily and too deep… 👿
Yes
i see what you did there =D and yes
And too dumbly.
And there was no Balrog to carry them all off!
@@MegaMesozoic You know what they awoke in the darkness of the internet; shade and flame wars! 🔥
The show failed for a myriad of reasons, but the biggest fallacy is that it doesn't feel like an adventure and the story telling unfolds so poorly without creating any compelling characters worth following.
Yes
@@mrrerechannel nah, the show was fun.
The most frustrating thing in all of this is we know they will learn nothing and keep ruining everything they touch.
The ocarina music, is perfect for this.
Props to the ocarina player. They have clearly put more effort into learning this instrument, than the ROP did in putting this series together.
Lol, yes
The elves did to Galadriel what companies do to bad managers: promote them to a different department!
And she ends up needed to speak to the other managers a lot.
This show was so bad it actuall hurt me to watch as a die hard tolkien fan. Almost everything about it was dreadful, there were some nice location shots and sets. Nothing even remotely good enough to redeem this dumpter fire though. I loved your take on it and that terrible recorder music playing the howard shore shire music had me laughing my ass off. My morbid fascination will no doubt drive me to watch season two though, like watching my own autopsy as a hovering ghost above my corpse. Fun vid, it made me chuckle :)
I watched this at around the same time I watched the House of the Dragon and I was so disappointed. They really butchered the lore. But yeah the show was so boring. Lol, I pray that I don't feel too compelled to watch the second season. I'm glad you like the vid! Thanks for checking it out and for you feedback!
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I didnt watch it. My friends told me about it and Ive not seen a good review of it. Ive read all Tolkeins work and I dont think I could handle watching it.
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If the sun on GUYladriel bugged you... What did you think of the Numenorians landing on Middle Earth in the WEST with the sun RISING behind them in the west while it's STILL night in the town 😅
basically in Rings Of Money Laundering the sun rises in the west and also.. sets in the west?
Lol, I did see that in another review. Didn't notice it in show because the entire time I was asking myself how TF they got all those horsies over on those tiny ass ships.
The Rings of Money Laundering... Haha
Its sorta like a bouncing wall.
it is GUY-mad-lad-riel, get it right
No one could have explained this better than you the way you just did
rings of money laundering omfg yes
Can we just stop for a moment and consider the fact:
Between Sauron arriving in Eregion (several centuries into Second Age) and Durin's Bane awakening (year 1790 of Third age) passes around 3500 years or more. And if my memory serves me well, Mordor was formed as an aftershock from the War of Wrath at the very end of the First Age, meaning its another several centuries till balrog wrecks Khazad-Dum.
Meaning, showrunners (I won't call those authors) crammed around whopping *FOUR THOUSANDS YEARS* of history into some weeks season 1 takes. That would be an unacceptable level of quality even for a fanfiction, even for a rule34 fanfiction!
That's an unquality! That's like making movie about Fall of Rome and make Ramses the Second armed with musket fight Chalemagne on war elephant while Atilla pilots Enola Gay above them.
Why even my cringy jest looks better than this show's timeline. It just don't... Why even care... This show is below cringe, below stupid jokes, below shite for quality, below character assassination and lore tarnishing, it a damn thing of its own. Its a singularity of everything wrong with how industry is ran. Fake or misguided passion, fake virtues worn as a camo-net, disrespect for everyone and everything, complete lack of understanding of what the heck they were even doing, lack of even basic writing skills, smudged in overbloated budget wasted on glitter instead of substance.
One billion dollars. One billion dollars spent on making one of the least faithful and least quality-ful adaptation ever. Even when you expect shite, they surprise you with just how deep the brown stuff runs. Subverting of expectations by making even the worst expectation become too mild.
WHAT?! THE?! HECK?!
Well, I guess I got that wrong... I was thinking it was 2000 years.
Truly... ASS
@@mrrerechannel Indeed. The only constant of this show is that it manages surprise us with how bad it is. And on almost every turn.
Dwarves were good though. One may complain about diversity casting (Middle Earth has rather homogenous ethnic groups) but that actress was good. Her role was a rare gem in this shite pile.
@@mauser98kar Yeah, I really liked her, & the dwarves in general.
@@teleriferchnyfain They are like glimpses into what this show could've been but wasn't - cool, yet not without a hint of sadness.
I completely agree with you and I thank you for your sacrifice in watching the entire show. That is a lot more than most of us could manage.
No problem!
I couldn't manage one episode.
After the sixth episode I started making use of my video speedup addon.
this show was a lot of fine, people whine too much.
A friend of mine begged me to watch the show with them as it was coming out, I would not have done so under my own recognisance after the PR stuff made it clear this was an awful show... I had friends also tell me that I couldn't judge it until after I saw it... only to admit they thought it looked like bad fanfiction and so didn't watch it. ...I'm mostly watching these recaps of how awful the show was purely out of a desire to dump the mental dissonance caused by WANTING a show to be good and how awful the Rings of Power was.
There's not enough wanting to change my opinion of this show. They either need to do a complete 180, or stop making the show, because I don't think people will give it the same attention the next go round and that attention was the only reason why the show got the viewership it did.
Can we please also speak about how the actual elfen rings of power look like they came from a bubble gum machine from the 90s? I mean we have good shots of them already in the LOTR intro, why the hell do they suddenly have these big fake stones and look like no craftsmenship went into them? aren't the elfes know for beeing so good at stuff because they've practised it for centuries?
Elves do tire. Fingolfin in his duel with Morgoth eventually starts to grow weary. He is fatigued from dodging those giant grond smashes that cause holes in the earth. But only after wounding the most powerful being on earth eight times. (how epic would that be put to screen from a respectable show)
* So, this chick swimming back to land is so laughable it reaches a different level
agreed
And the Amroth incident proves that elves can drown too. It's not a matter of they tire or not. That's a freaking sea, sea creatures (sea-serpent ahem ahem) might eat this Karendriel's ass.
Exactly how I felt. Not sure how this was allowed to be released.
They probably had to release it because it cost to much money to make.
@@mrrerechannel yeah, imagine how much more money they could have made if they did it right!
@@mrrerechannel they should have just asked all the Tolkien fans to pay $5 NOT to make it.
@@scambammer6102 f.uck them, paying to help them make profit, hell nah, let them sink
Honestly, I want to add that it's not just about Galadriel not being able to swim back. It's also about the sea life she would definitely encounter on her way.
Do you seriously want to tell me that there isn't a single carnivorous ocean predator out there?
Right! And she obviously did encounter a sea creature that very well could have killed her..
You have to admire people who will spend years to seek out someone only to learn that they can’t recognize the one they seek when he’ standing right in front of them. That’s dedication.
yes
The only character I could really care about, was Elendil. He’s taking so much crap from the queen, from Galadriel, having to deal with his insubordinate son, a tough job and responsibility going to war, and Halbrand making that even more difficult… I could sympathize with that, not with all those narcissistic main characters.
Yeah, I definitely felt bad for Elendil.
1:32 Galadriel is always right? The show wants to present it that way but when you analyze every one of her decisions and their impact, she's wrong nearly every time. In the beginning, she wanted to leave a soldier behind and two seconds later it turns out there's a structure they were looking for. She would have abandoned him for no reason. The next decision is she wants to continue hunting for Sauron - in the North. Had her soldiers not mutinied, Galadriel would have spent Season 1 exploring the North Pole. Then her great decision to jump ship - this led to her bringing Sauron to Numenor to the Southlands and finally to Erigion to craft the rings. In the process she gets Numenor to launch a military expedition that essentially failed as the enemy got what he wanted while they only got several of their people fried and their Queen blinded which no doubt will be used by Ar-Pharazon to usurp power and lead to the destruction of Numenor - great job, Galadriel! Then when she discovers Halbrand is (gasp!) Sauron, she continues the project that he had had his hands all over and doesn't bother telling anyone that their human assistant was the Dark Lord. Galadriel single-handedly ruined Middle Earth. Was she supposed to be the villain the whole time?
My real point is that she and everyone else act like she's always right. She never issues an apology to anyone. She's always included in the decision making, even though obviously, as you pointed out, she F's a lot of shit up. She doesn't atone for any of her sins. There are no consequences for HER for her bad decisions. Everyone's licking her boots, even though she's a dumbass. The queen regent gets blinded and people from her volunteer army get killed and then she tells Galadriel: don't worry, I'll come back with more troops to help your cause. Galadriel is just a bad leader and doesn't show any remorse for her poor judgement. Also, jumping off a ship 3000 miles away from where you're trying to get to is suicide... but it works out for her.
@@mrrerechannel it's hilarious that the show unintentionally created the dumbest and most villainous character in Middle Earth and she is still presented as being right to most of the other characters and herself!
I remember watching the first episode and thinking "What's the deal with Sauron? When the elves left the undying lands Melkor was the big deal, not Sauron. What timeline is this?" I don't know what happens afterwards, because I have only watched episode 1, but based on that the timeline is really muddled.
Yes.
I think the only thing you missed was when the Orcs were chasing them through the forest and the got to the clearing and the Orcs just stopped. The Orcs were like damn if only we had a range weapon we could still attempt to kill them. They were just shooting arrows at them moments earlier. Amazon should cancel any contracts for additional seasons, pay the financial penalties and just be like “our bad”. This is embarrassing at this point. I was screaming at my TV constantly hoping it would get better. Worst prequel ever. Also way too woke. And I thought Tolkien said that elves were all pain skinned because they had no pigment because of how they were awakened. I heard that on a Reddit Battle so why is “Not-Don-Lemon” there? They should have at least kept with Tolkien Lore. Lord of the Dumpster Fire at this point.
Well, I def missed that, but honestly this video could have been probably 3 hours long... I agree!
Elves cannot die of starvation or dehydration, though they do suffer from them. We know this because Morgoth hanged Maedhros by the wrist from the top of Thangorodrim for at least 24 years until he was rescued by Fingon and Thorondor(King of Eagles). He begged for Fingon to just kill him though so he was definitely in pain likely from hunger and thirst.
Well spoken on the point! As a fan of Tolkien and his lore of middle earth i was really excited before the show aired, but got fast disappointed.
Nevertheless i watched every episode in hope that the plot would develop in a good way. But it did not.
Yeah, it was extremely disappointing. Tbh, once I saw some of the promo material I was kinda dreading it.
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Very well said. Did you notice when as the king was having his portrait drawn on his death bed the girl sat on his left as she drew him but looking at her drawing you could see the artists perspective represented him from a right view. How did that get past the editor? Very sloppy
sh*t, I should have noticed that. I honestly missed a few of those things :/
Well, I missed it too. I think I fast forward thru most scenes because I despise the show. I heard about the kings portrait mishap after watching a UA-cam critic. I guess it was the last episode when the king dies if you want to check.
@@strangeinamoststrangeland4200 I'll take your word for it. But yeah, I feel like there was so much wrong I must have missed a bunch.
As I understand it, the showrunners didn't have the full rights to the other books of the Tolkien lore (i.e. The Silmarillion, etc.) so, while they could use the *characters* like Galadriel, Elrond, etc., they were prohibited from telling any of the story events faithfully as depicted from those books. Which meant they were left with either telling bits of stories that occurred BETWEEN the events in the books, that weren't explored or even alluded to in the lore, and/or inventing a whole bunch of new characters and settings to 'fill in' the gaps. And to do that, the showrunners were essentially asking the writers to compete with Tolkien himself, coming up with new stuff that matched his in terms of depth and creativity. That's a HELL of an ask, for even good quality writers - never mind the by-the-numbers mediocre ones they actually got.
Still, no excuse for the abysmal dialogue..
Sure, but like Tariq said, it's really no excuse. If they got GOT or The Last Kingdom caliber writers, that would have been fine... and way better than what they got.
I have never read the books, so I was unaware of a lot of the background details. I didn't know the show had strayed SO from the source material. Jackson was very careful, and showed great respect to the source material. I thought season 8 of GoT was bad. lol
yeah
The lore was the reason the show instantly lost me, it was beyond infuriating..... First two scenes not only had wrong lore, but also condensed 1,000s of years in no time at all
I stoped watching after 4 episodes. My life has changed for the good! Actually, i feel sincere happiness about that fact. More happiness then what i would get from watching this to the end - for sure
I knew I wanted to make a vid roasting it after I saw the premier, so unfortunately I had to watch the rest. Although I did watch it on 2x speed because yes, it was very bad.
I thought the series would’ve been based on some random made up characters living in Middle-Earth and I would’ve been more than fine with that and was just excited to experience the world again. But instead they decided to mess with well known characters without even respecting the lore and Tolkien and then they wonder why people hate the show 🤷🏼♀️
I completely agree! I don't think there's any redemption for them.
Well said Sir. 100% agree with every point you've raised. Thanks for enduring the pain, so that many of us did not need to. :)
You're welcome. I at least softened the torture by watching it on 2x speed. Thank God for 2x speed.
Although I am a LOTR supernerd, I made the decision to not watch a single episode of the rings of power, and after the release of the first episode, I immediately knew I made the right decision. Lets be honest, to fill the shoes of Peter Jacksons trilogy, and even the hobbit trilogy is a big ask, and I anticipated they would not meet the same standard, but even knowing that, this show is a complete and utter joke. They should be ashamed of what they did to Tolkien's life's work. I do not consider this show LOTR connected, and even as a generic fantasy-based series, it disappoints in every way.
Yep. #2 is very much true. I didn't read any Tolkien books so I'm the last person to get offended with any changes they pulled out of their ass. I'm even a sucker for historical shows with dramatic embellishments too but you have to have basic logic for crying out loud. Villagers go to the elven tower for better defensive capabilities but then they abandon that tower and somehow didn't meet the orcs out of the one way path? And instead of running to another settlement they go back to defend their very open village that was just sacked?? Halbrand gets injured, survives riding for six days, gets healed in one and is immediately strong enough to work a forge and no one suspected anything until galadriel hears celebrimbor repeating what Adar said?? dafuq. You'll feel like jackasses if you say this show is great. The shills must have been paid at least six figures to put their names on the line.
I was almost going to include the villagers destroying the tower and giving up a literal fortress, but wow there was just so much illogical stuff it made my brain hurt. Completely agree. I don't think Morfydd Clark is getting another main role.
You dont have to always be a shill just because people enjoy something that's apparently "by popular opinion" considered bad. Even when it's just the loud internet at work again.
Nice video, you had alot of the same problems I had with the show. Watching the show just wasn't entertaining nor did it feel good while doing so
Lol, I'm glad I'm not the only one. I honestly watched a lot of the show on 2x speed. Could hardly stand to keep watching.
most of us fans roasting it is 10x more entertaining than the actual show
They say they've got five seasons plotted out. Why on earth would they front-load the creation of the Three in season 1 when they know they've got five to play with? Season 1 - set up the world. Elves are growing weary, Numenor is distant, orcs are getting more active, our main cast of elves start tinkering with lesser rings. Season 2 - the first true Rings of Power are created, nine of them made to help preserve the elves way of life. Rumours swirl of a dark lord somewhere. Season 3 - seven more rings are made, suspicion and distrust swirl among the elves as they realise there's a traitor among them. Season 4 - Sauron is revealed as a background character, a mauve shirt who we've seen hanging around and being involved in the forging scenes but never really focused on. The Nine and the Seven are seized, the season ends with the Three being forged and Eregion's destruction. Season 5 - War of the Last Alliance.
Boom. Job done.
They should've hired you, honestly!
I love how I wrote a fair review of the show, commenting both on things that I thought were good and things that weren't. Not published. Thanks Amazon. Keep paying all the shills at these online rags to write glowing articles about your stupid show, but more people will stop watching. Because it's just not good. And the worst thing of all is Galadriel-nothing like the book AT ALL, and so annoying. The Galadriel in the BOOK IMMEDIATELY distrusted Annatar (oh, Halbrand because I guess the show didn't have the rights for the real Sauron name).Not here, though. And I couldn't agree more about the Harfoots. Snooze. I just wanted to kick them down a gully and set them on fire.
total snooze!
@@mrrerechannel Update: they said it was offensive. Oh boy.
@@robhaskins the amount of people they offended with the show is a huge amount.. probably including Tolkien himself.
Galadriel was taught by Melian, and such wisdom she carries when that happened was not even shown in this pathetic series of Rings of Power. The part where wisdom should rule over hatred vanished.
The Dialogue was also below average. When Tolkien created his characters and made conversations, you can sense the touch of poetic idioms in it, viz. Thranduil and Elrond, et al. The moment they started talking about "the boat looks above", I can't help but roll my eyes on the pale surface of dialogue making.
Not to mention the whole revenge stories basis is not even cannon.
Yes.
Nooo... I don't think "Toxic Femininity" is the right word. I think it's just bad characterization. It doesn't matter they're females, it matters that they're IMPORTANT PEOPLE IN A STORY ABOUT POWER WHO HAVE POOR CHARACTERIZATION. It's basically a fairy tale, a simple morality tale, and the good guys... aren't good. They're not brave, wise or cool... but there's times when the show implies they're supposed to be. You can't use the imagery of heroic grandeur and then have people act like base fools without any good guy for comparison. Everyone's a bad guy, which would be FINE if the show didn't use so much golden age imagery. And, yes, everything feels contrived, including the background shots.
They mention Elendil's other son like twice when his son talks to him about leaving the ship training he was in before he finally got kicked out.
Really... I missed that. My bad, but seriously he didn't have a daughter.
Yea but I think they seem to suggest he's dead... like Celeborn...
As someone who hasn't read the book and enjoyed the movies, I thought this series has been great. I was totally unaware that Sauron was alive and actually in human form so that was a cool surprise.
Well, I'm glad you can be an outlier and were actually able to enjoy this.
As someone who has read all the books and also enjoyed the movies, I can tell you that this show has been terrible.
I’m a fan of the books and lore and still enjoyed this show as well. I liked it much more than HoD.
@@brianefoote so far the whole damn show is made up.
Another scene that confused was when Guyladried was chasing the emo elf in episode 6. How the hell did Halbrand come from did opposite direction when they all started off from the same direction. 😅
Yeah, I could have included a lot in that section. The show was so bad!
Is it weird I enjoyed the show? There was definitely some stuff I would change like some of the story and the lore (in the show not the true lore) but I also have not gotten to know that much about the true stories. Do you know where can I learn more about them?
It's almost as if Payne & McKay answered the challenge to "Write me a script worthy of shitty-fluted Howard Shore!"
It worked out perfectly!
These are reasons why ALL MODERN TV SHOWS AND MOVIES, and not just "Rings of Female Empowerment", are terrible. You hit the spot with everthing you said here. I couldn't agree more! What a disgusting insult to Tolkien and audiences!
This is a fantastic summary! I’m trying to compile the best summaries to show my friend who didn’t watch the show and doesn’t believe me about the magnitude of how bad it is. This video is a winner!
My personal pet peeve, which seems to bother nobody else (I guess it’s pretty minor compared to all the other stuff) judging from the many comments sections I have read, is that they have two warships blow up in the harbour shortly before they are supposed to go to war, nobody investigates, nobody is concerned about that, nobody is concerned about the safety of the other three ships. They’ve lost 2/5 of their full strength and they’re just gonna go ahead with their battle plan. What?! On a sidenote, it is also ridiculous that Elendil accepts the obvious BS story from Isildur and doesn’t ask any questions.
OK, one more. How the hell does the guild system work in Númenor? You can become in master, therefore entitled to a badge, and discover employment in one day? Maybe the showrunners
need to go study the Hanseatic League. I mean, in addition to everything else they need to study but won’t!
Thanks for a great video although those high-pitched screeching flute noises traumatized my eardrums 🤣🤣🤣 but they were really the perfect accompaniment for a summary of the show!
Awesome! Yeah, that bugged me too. I just had such a short fuse with this show. I wanted to get the video done because I didn't want to spend anymore time than I had to with the material.
Another thing I will say is I watched these vids to do my research on the lore and they completely shat on the Numenoreans. They were supposed to have huge ships as well. ua-cam.com/video/Wx2JI6PrXGo/v-deo.html
I think the show runners were banking on the LOTR fans being extremely non-autistic, but they obviously miscalculated. I'm too autistic to be able to handle all the inconsistencies and all the things that were glossed over.
I'm glad you liked it. I wish I could have made it as extensive as it maybe deserved to be, but I honestly couldn't take anymore. I had to put in the scuffed flute Howard Shore music, lol!
@@mrrerechannel I really admire the dedication of all these true fans with UA-cam channels, such as yourself, who actually watch the show so you can report on it for the rest of us! It would take a lot of patience to put together any video on a subject matter one despises, so I completely understand how you didn’t want to spend any more time on it.
Thank you for the link! I will watch it later.
How did they not even have a continuity editor? Tolkien was so precise about the exact dates of each event and exactly how long it would take for the fellowship to travel from point A to point B. He even made sure the times of the moon were accurate. Peter Jackson had to make some modifications such as putting in the confrontation with Shelob shortly before the Battle of Pelennor Fields, but he was careful enough with it that it was plausible. It’s almost like these show runners couldn’t even be bothered. I watched the review of the first episode and I thought the reviewer was joking when he said Big G jumped off the ship and is now in the middle of the ocean. I think somebody checked on a map and said it would be 3000 miles for her to swim back to the shore of Middle Earth.
“ it’s going to be difficult for her to make it.”
“ no, it’s super easy. Barely an inconvenience.”
I can’t wait for the pitch meeting for ROP! In case you don’t know what I’m talking about, there is a hilarious channel called “pitch meetings” that has 5 to 8 minute long videos on approximately 400 movies and TV shows. And they’re all very, very funny!
also, Numenor a massive power only has 5 ships and no trained warriors.
@@thranduiloropherion7256 Literally doesn't make sense. They're a naval powerhouse.
@@dronesclubhighjinks I'll go check them out. I really appreciate it. Hopefully all of the fuss the fans have made will be enough to convince Amazon to scrap the show, or bring in Peter Jackson to save it.
They want to make Galadriel a female Aragon. But they fucked her up so bad, she becomes Eric Cartman.
lol
I do what I want!
Also, does anyone ever explain the black elf, hobbit and dwarf-woman?
Like, it would make sense if their parent or grandparent was a Haradrim, but I don't think they ever give a reason.
There is no reason. Satan wants to confuse us. That's why he's influencing people to throw logic out the door.
The algorithm brought me here. Same sentiment the show is a travesty and we only get easter eggs of some of the most important scenes/lore in the world!
Glad to have you. Yes, it is unfortunate to say the least.
The Strong Womans [TM] can grow and develop because that would require learning lessons from mistakes, and they don't make mistakes. They start off right--despite the annoying doubts of idiot men--and they end up right. It sure does make for TV that's, uh...exciting?
Lol, truth.
Still going with the theory that the entire script was written by AI. Grammarly, write me a story about magic rings please.
I haven’t tuned in since the first couple episodes made the hair on the back of my neck stand up, it was SO remote from Tolkien… I was actually eager to see creative license taken, I have read some very intriguing fan fiction over the years that nonetheless stays within Tolkien’s cosmology, as he himself extended many of his own ideas to a place that was “non-canonical”, which can be observed and investigated in all of the many volumes of “The History of Middle Earth” published by his son, Christopher and his estate.
But what they are doing here is f**king confounding. Are they honestly developing Sauron’scharacter as a vulnerable Byronic antihero? Are they for real? JRRT’s cardinal concept of good and evil did not leave much of a grey area for ambiguity, or ambivalence--or purchase for the footing of contemporary “psycho-emotive” development….These are very recent relativistic filters constructed because the notion of absolutes has become so taboo. EVERYONE must have complexity now, and something redeeming, and some kind of gestalt “backstory”. They can’t just be rotten to the core, or powermad, or monomaniacally evil… such things are regarded as “unrealistic” in todays world, - yes, okay, and they were unrealistic even when the author first wrote his work, because this was friggin FANTASY you shitwits…
the only thing I ever remember reading in all of Tolkien’s words which departs from the apprehension of Sauron’s utter and total corruption (and utterly corrupting power) was how “ no thing, not even Sauron, was evil in origin” (I might be paraphrasing there slightly), along with a vague elaboration of his “fall”--an event which took place not long after the creation of the world--from the powerful being “Mairon”, which meant “ esteemed” in Elvish, to Sauron --“accursed”, the greatest and most accursed lieutenant of Melkor/Morgoth… it was this complete and total commitment to evil that made his power so dangerous, even when he veiled it with some “fair” appearance--you know, like with that, um, RING? Remember, that talisman that was so dangerous to the world that it had to be COMPLETELY DESTROYED--the thematic narrative CORE of the FAMOUS TRILOGY called “THE LORD OF THE RINGS”?
Or maybe I am overlooking something.
Yeah, I thought it was really fun! I don't know if I want to see Nora and Dean again in the second season or a new slew of characters...
My biggest problem with this show is logical fallacies. They went from a stone keep to a small tavern in a village because they said in the show that it’s more defensive
3:17 it doesn't seem like these women change or learn anything.
At least the writers got that much right.
I'M KIDDING!
Lol, very funny. I kinda like what some would consider sexist jokes that make generalizations. I think it's a fun way to poke fun at opposing sexes, cultures, religions... ect.
I mentally tuned out when she jumped off the boat. I lasted 5 episodes total before I realized it's not going to get any better
Sauron should make a ring for Galadriel so they can get married ❤
LOL
OMFG - please don’t let that be why he makes the One...
@@hesiyyn4880 I guess you won't want to know where he puts it then
Actually I want to delete this entire thread now in case it gives the showrunners ideas :(
@@scambammer6102 Are you suggesting the One was originally more like 4cm or so in diameter rather than about 2?
Glad I didn't watch this. It should be deemed criminal to take a beloved literature classic, a work of art, and it's accompanying Peter Jackson film version, which is a beloved classic all on its own, then rape it, milk it, screw it, and humiliate it. It really should be deemed criminal and whoever came up with this should be tried in court.
Amazing! Probably the best way I've heard it yet!
And they really should have had you do the music! It would have been a lot better.
@@mrrerechannel ♥️ 🎻🎹
The showrunners already made a comparison to Macbeth, did they intentionally write the Dwarven wife to be like Lady Macbeth??
lol
You didn’t even mention the terrible metaphor at the beginning. Stones sink because they look down, boats float because they look up??? What does that even mean?
Actually, I would tie it to some pre-scientific nonsense akin to a lot of Aristotelian ideas from our timeline. Curious how that works - people who know science are bewildered, meanwhile people aware of the history of science would accept it.
- Adûnâi
There's a lot more I could have mentioned, for sure!
@@angamaitesangahyando685 even ancient people knew that rocks don't have eyes. that was some seriously garbage dialogue. Please do not insult primitive humans.
A concise and accurate summary. Thank you.
Thank you for saying so!
Technically speaking Finrod was killed by a werewolf on Saurons island, shen Sauron had intended to kill Beren. But Sauron was a little involved.
Yeah, I've kinda been reprimanded for that. I could have added more context in the vid, for sure!
I hope they can sort all this crap out. I was so looking forward to this show and, like many others was left disappointed with characters, content, storyline etc etc
Perhaps a change in personal for the persons behind the show, would that help perhaps?
That's what I'm hoping for. Maybe Peter Jackson can save it...
Well personally speaking, I don't think there's too many problems with Galadriel's characterisation, she's not a likeable character, but I could feel the writers trying to portray her as an elf corrupted by darkness to the point of being too paranoid, and in that they succeeded. I wanted to hate her, but I couldn't resist looking at her face...
On the other hand, I don't think Míriel and Pharazôn are vicious enough, they are too friendly to the elves, and given Númenor's history you'd expect Pharazôn to be a little more cunning and arrogant, but in the show he doesn't even look like he'll survive one season in King's Landing.
Lol, but she's supposed to be a badass. She's supposed to be smart. I don't think they portray her as either.
Haha, King's Landing!!!
Agreed...They took my favorite story (the Hobbit and the Lord of the Rings) and turned it to something else (being nice). I am not one bit feeling sorry if it just goes a way. I am upset the tarnish J. R. R. Tolkien's work. If they did not want to make a show true to the source they should have made something different.
I just want a remake of the Hobbit that isn't bloated. And yes, this show sucks and hopefully they cut it.
I challenge you to do a video on ten reasons on why the "Rings of Power" is a great show. reason being is that anyone can put down and dis something (Its easy to complain about anything) even a good show. it takes real character to point out things that are actually good in something that you may not particularly like.
Thank you for this very clear analysis. I managed one episode and then quit, I just couldn't stand it. And hating about everything else that happened, I'm glad I did. Even if you didn't read any Zolkien books, it must looks like little children trying to write for TV... it's somehow imaginative, but they just don't know ehat they're doing and make a mess out of it ... only that this is real money, and they wasted a whole lot of it
Of course. I absolutely agree!
As a POC I've never seen Elves and Dwarves anything else as but Celtics people. Just seems weird to have black elves randomly in the show...
I would have been more okay with them making all of the elves black, dwarves black, or men black, but all of the races being multiracial just doesn't make sense to me.
The best part about this show is watching all the critics talk about how bad it is
It's honestly so depressing.
As another die hard LOTR fan I just flat out didn’t understand how this show could have possibly been this dreadful. I guess the writers just think you HAVE to like it because it’s more lore. There was maybe 25 total minutes that were almost entertaining. While I don’t do the detailed breakdown as shown in this video the bottom line is that the show was flat out BORING!!!!
Yes. I had to watch it on 2x speed.
No joke I tried to watch it all the way through I said I was gonna binge the whole 6 or 7 episodes and just couldn't. After the volcano erupted I stopped watching and decided I needed a break from this show and actually binged devil's hour instead. I just wanted to watch it because it had Peter capaldi and I ended up loving it, but honestly I had trouble finishing rop I almost fell asleep through episodes and got disappointed because I would find out that im only halfway through it, ever single time. Yet I watched devil's hour within two days every time I ate and even before sleep like nothing.
Yeah, I honestly was watching this and stopped to watch HOTD. I ended up binging HOTD and getting my friends together to watch the final episode. ROP was ass.
I have to say this video is a little late to the party. I did enjoy the video but anyone who was foolish enough to see ROP knew within minutes and anyone who was intelligent enough to not support cultural vandalism knew the moment the first review came out. As much as I enjoy its mockery I think we should not even talk about it again. It deserves nothing.
Yeah, I really tried to get it out as quickly as possible. I am for sure not going to be giving it anymore air time. I almost regret doing some of the recaps, because it doesn't deserve the attention.
@@mrrerechannel To be fair it was a good video mate and you can't argue with the popularity of videos slating it.
I've said it before and I will say it again. I loved Rings of Power. For me, it was the best sitcom of 2022. If in doubt, always follow your nose!
Felt like a soap opera to me, but hey it was kinda sitcommie as well.
@@mrrerechannel "I AM GOOD!"
I am an actual Amazon employee who toils away in the warehouses, and I am deeply offended both as an "Amazonian" and as a fantasy lover. The fact the company could spend a billion dollars on this show instead of giving us top of the line healthcare is an afront to humanity itself. I had seen 20 something yell and dehumanize people 3x their age to meet metrics, its sickening. And the fact that Amazon will pay for hit pieces against Tolkien and his fans calling us a bunch of racists and fascists, no.. just no... I am so happy to see all of us united to say no more to this horrorific attack on us as a fan base and as humans
Hang in there bud! Hopefully you guys can get some collective bargaining going. Sh*tty show, sh*tty employer.
Most women I know are exactly like these women in the show so it's more like a documentary of sorts. Spot on writing
LOL... you need to befriend some better women.
I'd venture you're meeting the wrong kinds of women then. I know they're the kind I avoid like the plague if I meet them in real life, so I have no doubt they exist - but maybe try looking in some different places to find the more genuine ones?
You realize the showrunners are male right? They wrote Galadriel to be like this. This is their idea of a stronk wahman. Meanwhile, the male characters, Halbrand and Adar are a lot more likable.
@@Nopeasaurus what is really funny is that She-Hulk is similarly terrible and women wrote her. If a man had written She-Hulk, he would’ve correctly been accused of using all the worst stereotypes of women to make her look unprofessional and incompetent both at work and in her private life. And this is the type of woman the female writers look up to or want to be. Huh?! I’ll admit they are already unprofessional and incompetent because the “plot”is pretty loose and the dialogue is slightly better than rings of power because they only have to speak contemporary language. At least the writers admitted they did not know how to write courtroom scenes although this is supposed to be a legal sitcom 🤣🤣🤣
You make a lot of valid points (and by lot I mean you changed my mind of the show from average to below average :D) but, if you are aware of how fast Elven medicine can heal a wound of Sauron in reality, then we got a problem.
The amount of absurdities, stupid plot devices contrivancies, and lack of realism is astounding :)...especialy jarring in comparison to Tolkien's source material, the guy who tried to make things as realistic as possible even planning out the Moon phases during the journey hehe :), these writers are absolute hacks! The lore inconsistencies and contradictions are ENORMOUS! The whole thing with the forging of the Rings in the show makes no fucking sense! The Rings were supposed to be this grand plan, a carefully planned intrigue of Sauron, the plot of enslave the Elves and make them Sauron's servants, he devised all the ringlore for them and taught them knowledge how to make them becuase he wanted them to rely on those magical tools so he could gain supremacy over them using the connection between the rings that were made with his knowledge and binding them with his Ruling Ring...none of that is even hinted in the show which defeats entire point of the rings' existance! The invented storylines are awful, hell beyond terrible, the whole thing with mithril and it's properties in the show some sort of 'elf cancer' killing them for some reason rotting that tree....absolutely no sense! (how in the hell a rottin tree, a blight on a different lifeform can show the elves themselves being in danger?! It doesn't help that the whole thing with hte 'fading of the elves' got mixed up with other concepts like the corruption so dark power of Morgoth or Sauron flowing out into the world and tainting the land itself, and blight upon lifeforms, and the fading of Elves as Tolkien intended which is natural process that takes thousands upon thousand and thousands of years, so not yet progressed far in Second Age setting and completely of different nature, that is spirits consuming their bodies across vast time period along with natural aging, and 'fading' as in mode of the time passage in mortal lands of other things around in the world passing away, which the elves wanted to slow down due to their love of the mortal lands), regarding the lore references, the Elves according to Tolkien DO sleep though in different mode:
"…Only Legolas still stepped as lightly as ever, his feet hardly seeming to press the grass. leaving no footprints as he passed; but in the waybread of the Elves he found all the sustenance that he needed, and he could sleep, if sleep it could be called by Men, resting his mind in the strange paths of elvish dreams, even as he walked open-eyed in the light of this world."
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"With that he fell asleep. Legolas already lay motionless, his fair hands folded upon his breast, his eyes unclosed, blending living night and deep dream, as is the way with Elves. Gimli sat hunched by the fire, running his thumb thoughtfully along the edge of his axe. The tree rustled. There was no other sound."
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"It is plainly suggested that Elves do ‘sleep’, but not in our mode, having a different relation to what we call ‘dreaming’. Nothing very definite is said about it (a) because except at a length destructive of narrative it would be difficult to describe a different mode of consciousness, and (b) for reasons that you so rightly observe: something must be left not fully explained, and only suggested."
And indeed they need to eat, drink etc. but they are incredibly resistant and have great endurance and vitality and are energetic so they can exert themselves far longer than normal humans but still have limitations and the whole jumping off in the near middle of the ocean was the dumbest thing indeed, hell the Elves can drown and many did:
"The year was waning to autumn, and before long great winds were to be expected, hostile and dangerous, even to Elven-ships while they were still near to Middle-earth. But so great was the grief of Amroth that nonetheless they stayed their going for many weeks; and they lived on the ship, for their houses on the shore were stripped and empty. Then in the autumn there came a great night of storm, one of fiercest in the annals of Gondor. It came from the cold Northern Waste, and roared down through Eriador into the lands of Gondor, doing great havoc; the White Mountains were no shield against it, and many of the ships of Men were swept out into the Bay of Belfalas and lost. The light Elven-ship was torn from its moorings and driven into the wild waters towards the coasts of Umbar. No tidings of it were ever heard in Middle-earth; but the Elven-ships made for this journey did not founder, and doubtless it left the Circles of the World and came at last to Eressëa. But it did not bring Amroth thither. The storm fell upon the coasts of Gondor just as dawn was peering through the flying clouds; but when Amroth woke the ship was already far from land. Crying aloud in despair Nimrodel! he leapt into the sea and swam towards the fading shore. The mariners with their Elvish sight for a long time could see him battling with the waves, until the rising sun gleamed through the clouds and far off lit his bright hair like a spark of gold. No eyes of Elves or Men ever saw him again in Middle-earth. Of what befell Nimrodel nothing is said here, though there were many legends concerning her fate."
There you go we have an example of an elf who was still far far closer to the shore and still drowned trying to swim across large distance in uneasy waters.
Well, sheesh! I didn't know that about the elves. I guess they really don't need to sleep... my bad.
But I completely agree with you. Obviously you know more about the lore, so the show was probably more infuriating to you. But yeah, I really hope they get some show runners that have actually read the source material and really understand it.
@@mrrerechannel well the quotes that I gave say that they DO sleep the line about different mode of consciousness and all that, and Legolas in story eventually also needs laying down to sleep, the Elves after all do have beds, pillows, blankets :) or use furs to cover themselves etc. they need rest too and have dreams while sleeping, hell in Silmarillion important plot point is thanks to two elves being asleep :),
"But Ulmo coming up the river laid a deep sleep upon [Turgon and Finrod] and heavy dreams; and the trouble of the dreams remained after they awoke, but neither said aught to the other, for their memory was not clear, and each believed that Ulmo had sent a message to him alone."
The Silmarillion, Quenta Silmarillion, Ch 13, Of the Return of the Noldor
As was said the Elves have greater stamina and energy that will take a long time to exert and get tired but they do have limits, and eventually their strength runs out.
Yeah when it comes to lore there is a LOT of contradictions and changes and alterations which make little sense in context of Tolkien, sometimes so serious they break the actual 'cause and effect' chain, like in Tolkien's world the discovery of mithril directly leads to establishment of Eregion the neighboring elven realm to Moria, but the show completely disregards that:
"Later some of the Noldor went to Eregion, upon the west of the Misty Mountains, and near to the West-gate of Moria. This they did because they learned that _mithril _had been discovered in Moria. The Noldor were great craftsmen and less unfriendly to the Dwarves than the Sindar; but the friendship
that grew up between the people of Durin and the Elven-smiths of Eregion was the
closest that there has ever been between the two races. Celebrimbor was lord of
Eregion and the greatest of their craftsmen; he was descended from Fëanor."
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"750
Eregion founded by the Noldor."
But this is just minor thing in the general mess with the timeline of events and so on, many things great and small are so altered and so weirdly interpreted that one wonders whether the showrunners and script writers even know the lore properly :).
My issue with it was its pacing. It's like listening to someone who never gets to the point. You lose interest and don't even care about the point anymore. The visuals helped me through the painfully slow pace. I wouldn't say I hated it, but the storytelling left much to be desired.
Oh yeah! It was like a soap opera, way to slow for me.
That drawing of the Númenorean ship had me crying!
Yes
For those that hate the show, why did you watch it? it was already gearing up to be bad before it even released.
I didn't watch it because I was skeptical about the people creating it and their ability to carry the weight of this story.
Because of that I was saved from being disappointed and now I'm not an extra view that would help validate the show as "good"
You have a point. I'm probably not going to watch the next season unless they drastically change who's making the show. I think they know the show flopped, but obviously they were rage-baiting Tolkien fans to watch the show... and I got baited.
@@mrrerechannel happens to the best of us 😂
altho you are in a unique position where you create content, you might want to take one for the team for season two because if nothing else you can get some content out of it & it might save some poor souls from watching.
Well, I was a little too optimistic and then I felt like roasting the show online, so I had to finish it :/
@@mrrerechannel you're much braver than I sir.
at least its over for now, and you can relax and try to enjoy your weekend.
Wishing you a nice weekend!☺
btw it was a great video, you've earned a sub out of me and I cant wait to see what you post next.
@@Hannah_The_Heretic Thank you good sir. Have a great weekend as well!
When Sauron is the most synthetic hero in the show. May Chaos take the world. 🔥🔥🔥
yes.
MAY CHAOS TAKE THE WORLD
There could a whole encyclopedia about the flaws in the mess of a show.. I'm not even exaggerating.. lol madness!
yes
Very true. I could spend hours just on the costumes, armour and weaponry, not to mention the hairstyles especially of the elves. The wig and false facial hair on the lead dwarf and the lead proto-hobbit are incredibly obvious.
I learned a lot from watching the behind-the-scenes features on the lord of the rings extended edition DVD set. Looks like nobody who had anything to do with the show watched those!
I decided not to watch it and I’m glad I didn’t. Watching the reviews does nothing to taint my enjoyment of Tolkien or the LoTR movies. It’s completely separate and I can enjoy watching this trash fire burn.
That was the move, but after I watched the first to episodes, I was determined to rip the show a new one.
good call
The more people that watch this garbage, the more reason they will have to make more. Boycott Amazon!
I'm done after this vid... hopefully
Seriously do you think she’s power-hungry because she’s giving her husband a peptalk because I knew what she meant. Clearly you don’t. If you watched all the series with her talking about is Help uniting the elves and the dwarves together to fight evil you didn’t get that.??????
That Númenorian ship meme killed me
I'm so glad I found it.
And don't forget about elfs short hair styles 🥲🥲
This, specifically, bugs the shit out of me
Thank you for watching this atrocity on our behalf 😭🙏🏻
You're welcome! Never again though. This show is not getting anymore attention from me, unless something drastically changes.
It makes The Hobbit look like a masterpiece.
I hate that there is nothing elvish about them, they don’t look, behave or carries themselves like elves. The way “Galadriel” snarls or whatever it is she does, is goddam awful.
I need to calm down now and promise myself to not watch the next season, not good for my blood pressure.
True! And the hobbit trilogy was terrible!
Worst show ever
Out of the shows I've watched, absolutely!
@@mrrerechannel they need to get rid of everyone involve with that show and start over
no that would be Amazon's "Wheel of Time" atrocity
@@scambammer6102 that cant be worst than rings of shit
@@thanos6643 lol you don’t want to look at that
The thing about the Sun moving to give Galadriel good lighting, it's done more than you think. The only reason we notice it in rings of power is because the rest of the show is so shit.
Fair. Yeah, I guess the show was so boring I was able to notice a lot more things.
I fully agree with everything you said. and yes, IT'S SO FREAKING SLOW AND BORING!!
I'm glad. That means we're either both really smart or really dumb.