Every Type of Home Espresso Machine Compared
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- Опубліковано 22 тра 2024
- What is the best home espresso machine? How much should you spend? should you go with George Clooney or Brad Pitt?
In today's video, Josh looks at the pros & cons of each category & helps find the right type of home espresso machine for you.
Find out more about the machines mentioned in this video (in order of appearance):
Delonghi Lattissima One Pod Machine: www.delonghi.com/en-au/en500-...
Flair Manual Lever Machine: flairespresso.com/
Bialetti Moka Pot: www.bialetti.com/us_en/coffee...
Breville Bambino: www.breville.com/us/en/produc...
Delonghi La Specialista Range: www.delonghi.com/en-au/produc...
Breville Dual Boiler: www.breville.com/us/en/produc...
Delonghi PrimaDonna Soul (Automatic): www.delonghi.com/en-au/produc...
Dalla Corte Studio: int.dallacorte.com/en/studio....
La Marzocco Linea Mini: international.lamarzocco.com/...
Sections in this video:
0:00 Which is the best espresso machine?
0:36 Pod Machines
2:31 Manual Espresso Machines
4:23 Small Home Espresso Machines
6:56 Fully Automatic Machines
8:31 High End Machines
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A few people have mentioned that the Moka Pot doesn't qualify as 'espresso'. Yes, I agree that the coffee it makes is quite different to the other equipment mentioned....and it probably needs it's own episode one day, but we felt it it worth mentioning in this context as it is an incredibly cheap & easy way to get started with making an 'espresso-like' coffee, compared to the other (mostly) fairly expensive options listed. Thoughts?
Obviously a moka pot isn't quite an espresso machine because it only creates about 1 bar of pressure but for a cheap alternative it makes quite great coffee. I actually use that plus a french press to make a cappuccino which obviously is quite different but still tastes great.
Yeah Moka Pot is as much "Espresso" as an AeroPress. Don't get me wrong, Moka Pots and AeroPress both make great coffee but not espresso.
However I get the point, most Australian coffee drinkers really mostly into the milk drinks, flat whites, lattes and caps and I would argue for those, Moka Pots and AeroPress do fantastic coffee for those if user right.
That being said, I love my coffee black and I have my own bias which is levers.
At most, Moka pots reach about 4 bars of pressure. That's no where near the traditional 9 required for espresso. Technically, it's still coffee and can taste fine. I've used one for years with pre ground coffee from Lavazza.
@@GenghisKhanPolitics 9 bar is not the be all and end all, usually 6-10 is the range.
In fact most light roasts are pulled at around 6 bar in speciality cafes as light roasts are not as good as building resistance compared to dark roasts.
That being said moka pot is a very different brewing method to espresso, and that's not a bad thing. It produces great coffee if you use it well and produces terrible coffee if you use it badly which can be said for all methods especially espresso.
There is now an option to create espresso (with 9 bars of pressure) with a moka pot, the 9barista
This video was so badly required on the internet, but I never found this sort of comparison anywhere! I love the way you have perfectly summarized the whole barista (years of) experience for a layman to quickly understand. Didn't miss one point ! Thanks for this ! 🙌🏼❤️
You left out what I consider the most important category, semi-automatics priced between the "small home espresso machines" and "fully automatic machines". The Rancilio Silvia is a perfect example.
Agreed. I think this was a major omission from the video. I also own a Silvia, and while it does not have a rotary pump, the brass boiler and non-pressurized baskets definitely put it in a different category to the entry level machines!
Came here for the coffee machines, stayed for the moustache
That shot of the split Linea mini was sick!
Great video.
As a barista, stuck at home during lockdowns, I finally got myself a machine for home this year. A little bambino, with a smart grinder. Absolutely love it. It's been really easy to teach my wife to use, and makes great coffee - and we're typically only making two coffees at a time.
For me it hit the sweet spot of giving me coffee I'm happy with, but also being accessible to the non-baristas in my life who occasionally want to make themselves a coffee.
What model did you get? Thanks in advance!
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I bought a Breville Bambino - not the pro version, just the standard one. And the Breville Smart Grinder Pro.
They've been great for me.
Love the overview of the vast array of espresso makers. Great video 👍
One note about small home espresso machines: the dual wall is not the only choice. Most come with non-pressurized baskets as well, and as long as you’re willing to play with the grind setting and dial in you can pull some really fantastic, balanced shots.
i partially agree - but its needed to be said, that one biggest downsize of these machines = CONSISTENCY. You just cannot pull one great shot after another on Breville Barista Pro (even if i used it at home for more than 2 years), because grinder, because of temperature, because of pressure - its just fine but bit exhausting if you know what to do, but you just cannot do that every day in every condition.
Back around the millieum i was looking for an esspresso machine. After reading volumes of comments the consenus of the higher end machine owners was that they wished they went directly to the high end machine and did not mess around with the cheaper machines. So i.bought a high end machine that i got 12 years of coffee bliss from before i had it refurbished. So yeah it was worth it. So consider my comment.
Spot on! I bought an ECM Giotto 15 years ago . Best investment ever. Saved a fortune when you consider the cost of a latte or other beverage at a barista's lair.
Cheers 🇨🇦👍🍮
The good thing now is that something like the Flair can pull amazing shots for a small investment (provided one is willing to go the manual route). I'd say the landscape of what's available has changed on the low and medium price range, and entry level prosumer grinders paired with consumer entry level semi-automatics can also pull stellar shots; the bar of entry into good espresso is lower than ever before.
@@npark78 i think realiability and longetivity is and was an issue. Certainly the playing field has changed over time..the prosumer machine that i bought back then wouldnt be the one i would buy today allthough the cost and quality would be about the same.
@@brianbuday8639 Have Salvatore semi auto..today would go ECM Syncronicity.
TABS the funny thing is my eureka grinder cost as much as my ECM , but make a great combo for excellent shots.
Ps. Recently converted to the bottomless portafilter. Wish I had done that ages ago.
Cheers
Love the channel! Love this video, just wanted to correct a couple things, the Breville Dual Boiler has two boilers, not two thermoblocks. Also, most Brevilles come with single wall in addition to dual wall baskets (in fact, single wall is the default pre installed one on most of their range). Cheers!
Awesome comparison! Agreed with Nespresso and Small Home Espresso machine. Have both at home and both have its own benefits and disadvantages.
Awesome video!
Could you please do one showing different brands in the categories you showed for an amateur like me looking to buy a machine.
Keep up the great content👌🏻
I bought an E61 Machine from La Pavoni for home using, the rotary pump make espresso taste so great !
Around my place, Rancilio Silvia + Rocky grinder is very popular for home coffee starter kit. Cost for set is around $1200. Just make sure to get fresh roasted coffee (no more than 2 weeks old). I learn a trick from barista at local Rancilio distributor. He said to tilt the machine just a little bit to front. That way we get drier steam for frothing milk. Don't know if that is true but he was once champion at city wide barista challenge, and his cafe latte froth milk is exceptional smooth/silky.
What a rock star! very well produced and presented. Why are most expresso you tubers such geeks. This guy is Awesome!! Keep doing you!
Wasn’t aware of the half an hour wait for the la marzocco to heat up, definitely want one but it sounds highly inconvenient for home use! Thanks for laying out the practicality.
You can use a smart plug to automatically switch it on 30 mins before you need to use it. I use one for my Bezzera. I have it set to turn on everyday at 7am so it,s ready by 7:30am. :)
Very excellent overview.
Thanks for the video. I enjoyed it.
You left the best til last,it depends on what you can afford and how keen you are on your coffee, I’ve gone from nespresso pods had several Jura machines to ending up with a large profitec lever machine and a Eureka grinder with 75mm burrs , I think the grinder is the most important item, as the taste of my coffee on the previous Jura machine went down the pan eventually The difference now is huge and you can play around endlessly with preinfusion to get the right taste. I think the Bialetti moka pot is also great for making regular old fashioned great coffee and is very cheap to buy.
I have the Gaggia Magenta Prestige super automatic espresso machine and I love it.
Great video. Thank you
I really like my Flair 58. I don’t feel like I’m missing out on anything, except steaming milk. Nanofoamer is great but it’s not as convenient as a steamer
Good information! Thank you! :D
Some super-automatics do not require much maintenance at all, you just run cleaning cycle before removing milk container and occasional descale (which all machines require). For Delonghi for instance you remove the brewing unit from the side door, and give it a rinse once a month. If you select appropriate beans and crank up dose and temp, they make very intense coffee, one can say espresso.
Do grinders next!! I have the rok gc grinder and want to see how it stacks up against others
Quick ? The Breville dual boiler had 2 thermal blocks instead of 2 boilers? Is a thermal block considered a boiler? Thank you so much for the clarification.
How did you get the bambino but black for me it’s only available in stainless steel
I'm going to redo that list...
1. Nespresso pod machine
2. Cheaper bean to cup machines like the Gaggia Brera
3. Semi Automatic machines like the Gaggia classic
4. Better semi automatic like the Rocket Appartamento or the ECM Casa
5. HX machines like the Rocket Giotto series or the Profitec 500 starting with vibe pumps and ending with rotary pumps. Spend more for a dual boiler, same features.
6. Shot profiling dual boilers like a Dalla Corte or a Rocket R-Nine one
7. Over the top machines like a Slayer, La Marzocco, Synesso
This list is not necessarily tied to price, but quality and ease of getting that quality. I can pull a "God shot" on a Gaggia Classic, but that might only be on 2 shots out of 10. The E61 HX and dual boiler machines bring temperature stability and increase your chances of success. Dalla Corte has a system where once you set it up, it will run a pre determined pressure profile and adjust the attached grinder by itself. You can now achieve the "God shot" 9 out of 10 and get runs of 10 out of 10 times.
If you ever have a pressure profiled shot, you will realize there is no substitute because you can extract different flavors depending on when and how much pressure you apply during the shot run time. You can also mimic lever machines and HX machines while profiling.
All that being said, unless you are looking for a hobby.
1. Nespresso.
2. Gaggia Brera.
3. Jura whatever you can afford.
If you are looking for a hobby, don't get a cheap grinder. It will be like running a marathon in concrete shoes.
very informative!
Brevelle BES920 is an awesome machine when compared to most HX Italian machines. And its not technically a thermobloc, but proper stainless steel boilers
Yeah, the best one for home morning milk coffee, period. But I wish they could release one with PID thermal block some day (like the barista pro with an auto steam wand)
A HX is actually worse than a dedicated boiler. You lose precise temperature control. The 920 is such great bang for buck.
I thought about this Breville double boiler, but in the end I choose the Lelit Elizabeth. For the same amount of money you get a stainless machine with two PID for precise temperature control, an astonishing amount of steam, many parameters you can choose, and two different preinfusion. And it’s almost silent.
@@fredericl6190 In my country the Lelit Elizabeth is actually 2.5x the price of the Breville Dual Boiler...
@@GuniBulls How is it possible? The Lelit is actually 100$ cheaper than the Breville. And now both companies belong to the same brand.
I fell in love with specialty coffee on a recent vacation, there was a little tiny shop right next to my hotel. When i live, you're pretty much stuck with tim horton's or starbucks. There's no little one-off shops. I do enjoy starbucks, but I also know it's definitely not the best out there. But that little shop by my hotel was an INSTANT game changer
within 4 days of coming home, I ordered a counter top espresso machine. Nothing too fancy, around the $250 range, but good reviews and really good specs for the price from the research i did. I'm so excited to be able to expand m coffee game at home from just drip coffee (I like my ninja bar, but once again.. it's not the same)
Down the line Ill invest in a higher end machine, but for now i am so excited
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Hey sonion - what kind of 250 dollar machine did ya get. I'm looking for one that doesn't suck.
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I have an espressoworks 19 bar espresso machine. Anyone have any tips? I am brand new to this. It seems its a semi auto since i am measuring coffee into a portafilter. And i can adjust the amount of a single shot.
La Pavoni deserves a special mention in this list! Small, cheap, silent, home serviceable and it steams milk.
all that design and still has less brew temp than Flair58. Overrated product for the price
You mentioned that the Breville dual boiler has 2 Thermal blocks But I don't think that's right. I have the Breville Oracle which is the same as the Dual boiler with a few extras and that has 2 boilers, not thermal blocks.
what about the coffee plunger
This is a fun video but once you get beyond Nespresso your grinders are absolutely key. It was a complete shock to me to find out that the grinder should probably cost around 50% or so of the purchase price of the espresso machine (of course some of us go a wee bit overboard). It sounds crazy but good grinders are the key to the whole process once you start using machines with proper portafilters.
yes, the grinder is key.
Half the upsides listed for the high end portafilter machines are also true for the cheaper entry level machines. Grinder, puck-prep, baskets, coffee beans and even the water you're using have much more of an impact on the result than the machine. Basket and portafilter can also be replaced on almost all domestic machines. Sure, higher end machines are better, that’s not up for discussion but cheaper machines with a good basket, grinder and coffee can give you a result shockingly similar to high end ones. The machines task is just to provide the desired temperature and pressure and not deviate from them shot to shot. Most domestic machines (Gaggia classic, Sage Barista Pro/Express, Sage Bambino, Rancilio Silvia, ...) can provide that.
In that regard the video is a bit of a miss. High end machines are described as the end all be all in order to get great coffee at home but that’s simply not the case…
If the appropriate roasting rate and the appropriate mill thickness are selected, if the water passing rate can be adjusted (which can be done with pressure pods), excellent coffee can be made with very simple tools. You don't need thousands of dollars worth of appliances to drink good coffee. It just takes experience. Experience is gained by making lots of mistakes. At the last point I came to, I can reach a good result by choosing the appropriate mill ratio in a simple household appliance. The only difference is that I roast my own coffee, I use a stone pan for it. learn how to roast your own coffee and you will see that the rest is very easy.
flair with bellman stovetop steamer is the move
just got a similar setup. I use flair pro 2 and R.E.D. stovetop steamer for almost a week now.
What about Lelit Anita, Elizabeth, Bianca?
PLEASE CAN YOU MADE A VIDEO ABOUT DOLCE GUSTO MACHINE
I love my moka pot
you should have mentioned Decent machine
pleasantly surprised that pod machines were included! feels like the "fancy" coffee channel tend to leave that category completely out but tons of ppl use them!
The Breville Sage Dual Boiler doesn’t have two thermoblocks. It has two boilers. Even the name says it, do your research.
I'll stick to my trusty Moka pot haha and Nespresso milk frother
Wait... mocha pot coffee is espresso? That said, mocha pot coffee as well as aeropress coffee can be very tasty 😋
Bit disappointed with this bit. Lever machines are a totally different beast and should have been their own thing, not lumped in with mokka pots which don't make espresso.
Idk is it just me, but using a digital scale on a manual-electric machine is a nightmare. Because of vibrations, scales go crazy and numbers are all wrong. My machine is Gaggia Carezza Deluxe
07:50 What price range and machine can compete full fledged proper espresso machine?
I dont like oid machines too much but they are not that expensive and make coffee very fast so we good
Whenever you talk about "Italian espresso", you should remember that in Italy espresso coffees are made of approximately 7 grams of ground coffee, which makes the content of Nespresso pods not at all unreasonable. I'm not a fan of Nespresso, but nobody in Italy makes espressos with 20 grams of coffee, that's what happens in the rest of the world.
Moka Pot is in but Aeropress (with the right attachment) is out - that will be quite controversial to some folks.
Also, check out the 9barista. It's essentially a jet-engine-equipped over-engineered moka pot.
yes, It's always going to be a matter of opinion. It's hard to rule out the Moka Pot given that it's basically synonymous with espresso in Italy. However, the Aeropress in the standard configuration does produce a very different style of coffee than the other equipment mentioned.
To me, if you call an nespresso or a pressurized portafilter "espresso" then you have to call the aeropress "espresso" as they all seem to produce a watery "fake crema" version of an espresso. It's not terrible, I do also enjoy them, but it's more like a strong coffee than a true espresso which has the oily feel to it.
You can't exclude aeropress while including moka pots in the same category as machines like the Flair. Moka pots DO NOT MAKE ESPRESSO. They make what Italians simply call "caffe." Aeropress makes something closer to espresso than a moka pot, and including the Flair (and other lever machines), which make outstanding espresso, with moka pots is a bad decision.
you can make a fantastic coffee with a La Pavoni and as they last forever there's no risk in buying a second hand machine for $500. Much easier to use than a Flair
Oh well! I guess I'm sticking to my instant coffee at home and take-away coffees when I'm out.
Thanks for this very informative video.
Salaam to you and to all.
Or be a crazy like mysdelf and use a fullsize comirial grade machine.
The waste produced by pods wouldn't be that bad if they were all made out of aluminum like pop cans. Given how recyclable aluminum is it's actually better for the environment than bio degradable plastic because it can be melted down into aluminum material to be reused. Most plastic can't be recycled or if they can then only very few times. With aluminum pods you could make new pods, pop cans or even products like airplane hulls.
Really all Kurieg should have done was allow people to recycle their pods with their pop cans.
Manual machine: LA PAVONI!
You didn't mention AeroPress with a Joepresso attachment. Will be better than mocha pot and cheap machines, and less wasteful.
top spec flair 58 is less than $600; so nowhere close to $1,000 imo...
That’s usd tho
You missed 9Barista
Why tell consumers that aeropress doesn’t make real espresso but don’t mention anything like that about nespresso lol
"All that pesky messy manual coffe making process is handled for you" wait to see the inside of an automatic coffee machine, is a lot of mess and mold appear very quickly.
Why no ESE pad machine??? I got a tiny, tiny Aroma Mia (for under €100!!!) which brews awesome espressi with a huge choice of coffee brands (mostly italian)! You can even tweak the brewing temperature by (not officially!) swapping the thermostat (93⁰C or 98⁰C I think) if you want to! The pads are quite affordable (around 30 cent/pad! Euro!) and biodegradable! Packaging is not so good - as every pad is seperatly packed! But you can recycle!
Hmm... now I'm frustrated.
Like professional coffee makers for less money
Moka Pot is not an espresso machine. (Don't make the coffee gods angry.)
Damn way to scare new ppl that are trying to get into the hobby by saying 7k espresso machine. I would adv ppl to start with a delonghi ec155 type and then if they like the hobby just jump into a dual boiled like a profitec or ecm its not 7k and is just as good.
To be fair, we did say "range from $2500 up to $7000" (here in Australia at least...)
@@SevenMilesCoffeeRoasters oh i kept hearing 7k and am sure thats what a newbi would hear over and over..
@@gigi9467 probably not the kind of person who’d be spending $2500 on a coffee machine if that’s the case :)
@@MonolithStudiosMelbourne you mean am not the kind of person whod spend $2500? If thats what you were trying to say well your wrong, i have a ecm synchronika which is more than the $2,500 but i worked up to it, in fact first time i called my shop when i was new in the hobby the dude did the same thinf he wanted to sell me a 6k machine and just scared me off.
I’m saying that if someone was so zazzed by that number whilst ignoring the VERY clear mention of the entire price RANGE, then that person is likely not looking in that range anyways :) pretty straight forward!
Moka Pots don’t make espresso either
Pod machines definitely don't produce anything that tastes like or can be defined as an espresso 🤔. Also Nescafe is a terrible company.
Moka is not espresso
So let me get this straight. An aeropress which actually uses pressure doesn't make real espresso but you think a moka pot does? Nespresso uses 7 gm for a single shot. You compared it to a double shot Porter filter. I stopped watching at this point.
I only watch this because of James Hoffman, sry
Also- there are zero "thermoblocks" in a Breville Dual Boiler. Zero. It's a DUAL BOILER machine. Hence its name. This is a terrible video.
Great video!
I was pods user for years and because I love coffee I wanted something better (and more responsible to the environment) so I went with fully automatic which is best option in my opinion.
Pros:
1.) fast preparation (convenience)
2.) consistent great quality
3.) fresh coffee
4.) multiple choices of drinks
5.) easy to use (my wife)
6.) easy to maintain
7.) cheaper than pods
8.) adjustable grinding and liquid dosing
9.) design (they look awsome in modern family kitchen)
Cons:
For me, there are none for now. Cleaning is part of the deal, but if You own Jura machines, you'll have min amount of cleaning in comparison with other manufacturers which have removable brewing unit which You must clean with water now and than. We had other ones before, which were cheaper than Jura but noisier, inferior quality, more work to clean, so I strongly recommend Jura if You go fully auto!
In video it was said that there is "obsessively amount of cleaning" which its not true (in Juras case). If you drink only espresso, the machine cleans it self. If You use milk based drinks, on the end of the day, You put cleaning capsules so machine drains liquid true milk system and again, its auto procedure, no sweat. For brew unit, machine gives You a warning when to make cleaning with tablet ( for us its around 2 months).
So simple and easy.
For our busy household we like full auto just because of convenience and quality but of course If You have time and space, high end manuals are best choice for quality but again, in my opinion the differences in quality are soo small now days when automatic machines are soo good that average user wont even notice.
My humble "short" testimony. ;)
From pod to fully automatic - quite the upgrade!
@@persianwingman There are nespresso pods coffee machines for 350$ which is in a price range of decent fully automatic coffee machine.. but yeah, Jura is maybe more on expensive side but totally justified.
@@Lukcv88 Phillips has some good cheaper alternatives.
@@bobdupuy5910 Had philips 5350 before jura and its night/day. Dont get me wrong, philips makes good coffee but Jura is even notch better. On philips I hated manual rinsing of brew unit. There was always some leakage under the machine under tray.. overall build of jura is significally better.
@@Lukcv88 No question about that. My best friend has a Jura J8 and I have enjoyed his coffee many times. But at 5x the price of my Phillips 3200 and with the J8's larger footprint, the Phillips 3200 was an easy choice for me. Also, I rarely do milk drinks.