This is what I know of Dr. Wong. My teacher trained with him. He was nearly a foot taller than Dr. Wong. My teacher taught Okinawan Kempo, Kyo Kushin, and Chinese boxing. It was a rough class. Saw a guy get hit in the eye one night and it strained the ligaments controlling his eye movement. He was cross eyed with a wandering eye for the rest of the night. Lucky for him the ligaments weren't torn because Chattanooga Tennessee is a pretty cruel place for handicap looking people or anyone different for that matter. Back to my teacher, he liked to brawl in bars occasionally. He began training with Dr. Wong because it made no sense someone so small could beat him every time. I have seen woo woo comments on here about "don't share that its secret" crap. I have studied for 40 years and yes, I can see now how Dr. Wong was beating my teacher but the average person has no idea how or why. It was my experience he was the real deal at least in a fight.
Nice comment, I met Dr Wong a long time ago "the real deal" is an understatement. I've been doing some research into how Cheung Lai Chuen and Ip Man were involved in the resistance to the communist revolution. Do you know if Dr Wong actually began training under GM Cheung?
@@James-g3w7w Cheung Lai Chuen was the 4th generation teacher of Pak Mei (Bai Mei). Dr. Wong was instructed by the 5th generation teachers Chang Beng Fat & Ng Nam King (aka Zhong Ping Fa & Wu Nan Jing).
Find something critical with what he does and that makes you better than he was? C'mon He was more pure than most of today's practitioners from China. The Chinese government didn't filter what he could and couldn't teach. He taught whites in a time when he wasn't supposed to do that either. He was REAL. Big dudes who thought they could fight were not able to defeat him. Thanks for sharing Dr. Wong. May he know joy and rest in peace.
Very nice video on this great southern system of Kung Fu , most people only think wing Chung has a close combat range square on to the opponent, controlling the Centre line and using short triangler stepping, feet shoulder width apart, using pulsing and body weight, through the tendons to deliver power, however these are found in many southern systems, thankyou for sharing, and do you have any videos on there version of chi sau and sensitivity training???
Turiyan Gold,indeed,he did loose a lot of weight. He started getting sick around 93, made this film in 95, he passed away in 09.His Nam King linage is still very much alive
Good showing of the mechanics of Jik Bo Biu Ji Kuen. Pak Mei forms can be practiced at full speed/power, or practiced slowly, so long as the faat ging is at the end of each technique. If you practice slowly without the poper shapes, power, and breathing, you'll end up with kung fu, but it won't be Pak Mei. It seems Dr. Wong was simply showing the "skeleton" of the form, here.
This looks like quite odd pak Mei. Front and back foot very close, front foot pointing out rather than in, arms wide, no power, the fingers of his biu aren't together, asking for a broken finger, his punch is off centre, looks down at his feet when he turns. Doesn't look like CLC lineage pak mei. I believe this is the tremmor power guy, who sends his students flying with his magical powers.
I would have said the same thing if I had not trained under Dr Wong. As for lineage, I think he actually began under Cheung Lai Chuen, his father was a General in the Kuomintang under Chiang Kai Shek. Yes, he's the tremor guy, I and others of all shapes and sizes have experienced it. When you start with him, he just says "attack me" and he forces you to either go all out (no matter what style or level of experience) so you know it's real. If you don't he would still teach you, but only in the strictly "pay to play" class. He would say, if you want to be good at Kung Fu you must fight. As for the Biu Jee and punches, he had what looked like a squat rack with four duffle bags filled with rocks and sand and I've seen him hit those bags with fingers and phoenix eye hard enough to make them buckle. HOWEVER, he made me keep my fingers together because I just wasn't on his level. Your right, his Bak Mei doesn't look like anything you normally see, even in the videos from China I think they are trying to make it acceptable to the CCP. He didn't fight "center line", always said, take the angle, control the elbow,. Said not to "bridge" like Wing Chun, destroy the bridge. He made my whole arm go numb and useless plenty of times just by hitting the radial nerve. Anyway, just thought I'd share.
@@James-g3w7w thank you for sharing your first hand experience. I've no doubt that if one's fingers are conditioned sufficiently, one could biu without holding them together, and the concepts you mentioned all sound like Pak Mei. His approach to combat and testing students sounds realistic. Care to share what you know about tremor and what he said of it? Were you taught it yourself?
@@jamesfoong9252 I can say that I never came anywhere near his level, but I did come to "understand" it. When I began with him it was like magic and we, all of his students, were trying to comprehend it in some woo woo mystical new age manner. He used to get so frustrated and would say IT'S JUST PHYSICS, and go in his house (that was before the "dojo" and we just trained in his yard). I've thought about the "demonstrations" over the years and asked why those particular demonstrations would be relevant. During the sino-japanese war, Cheung Lai Chuen was attacked by "riot police", so, for example, I now see how being able to knock down a row of people "pushing" you was born from combat. Cheung was in narrow ally ways and had his attackers "pushing" their Shields to overpower him. It's the same techniques used by riot police today, and the tremor power knocked down multiple opponents. On the other hand, the tremor power could be directed to nerve strikes, don't be confused with CHIN NA and seizing "pressure points", no doubt he do that but Bak Mei bridge destruction is striking to maim the person and disable the limb for the rest of their life. That's IF he let you live. Imagine "dirty boxing" Mike Tyson training for years not just on his power but using it to take out eyes, crush throats, tear joints in half. They don't allow that in MMA or train that mindset or allow that application of power. Real Bak Mei is not self defense, it's designed to create "John Wick". One other point, IF you are training John Wick, you DON'T want him to look like Arnold Schwartzeneger because he has to be undercover. So, you need him to look like he can blend in, but still use the power to kill. Being able to kill without weapons also helps you infiltrate, again, real Bak Mei is not self defense. OH, I FORGOT TO MENTION CHEUNG LAI CHUEN TRAINED CHIANG KAI SHEK'S SPECIAL FORCES SEARCH AND DESTROY TEAMS. Maybe that puts Bak Mei into perspective.
@@James-g3w7w so is it related to chi then? I also saw a video where master Wong comes to blows with I think a praying mantis guy, in which his fighting ability does not appear to serve him as one might have expected. I wonder if you've seen that and have and views?
@@jamesfoong9252 No it's been taken down, I read a blow by blow commentary tell me if it's right. There were few rules if any. They said it looked like a street brawl. The Mantis guy was 40 and Wong was 57, I don't know the Mantis guys skill level or Dr Wong's condition (he died at 70 I think). They kept calling Dr Wong the little old Chinese man. They said Dr Wong got kicked in the head. They said the Mantis guy made the challenge that he could beat Dr Wong and his students could beat Dr Wongs students so in round two Dr Wongs student beat the Mantis guys student. What did you see? Thanks for bringing it up, I just saw the post on Reddit with the video removed and I've been trying to find it. Also wondering about Dr Wong's eyesight he was wearing pretty thick glasses 20 years before the fight when I knew him. I tip my hat to him for confidence though, how many sixty year olds im MMA?
Very nice. Clean, no flowers.
This is what I know of Dr. Wong. My teacher trained with him. He was nearly a foot taller than Dr. Wong. My teacher taught Okinawan Kempo, Kyo Kushin, and Chinese boxing. It was a rough class. Saw a guy get hit in the eye one night and it strained the ligaments controlling his eye movement. He was cross eyed with a wandering eye for the rest of the night. Lucky for him the ligaments weren't torn because Chattanooga Tennessee is a pretty cruel place for handicap looking people or anyone different for that matter. Back to my teacher, he liked to brawl in bars occasionally. He began training with Dr. Wong because it made no sense someone so small could beat him every time. I have seen woo woo comments on here about "don't share that its secret" crap. I have studied for 40 years and yes, I can see now how Dr. Wong was beating my teacher but the average person has no idea how or why. It was my experience he was the real deal at least in a fight.
Nice comment, I met Dr Wong a long time ago "the real deal" is an understatement. I've been doing some research into how Cheung Lai Chuen and Ip Man were involved in the resistance to the communist revolution. Do you know if Dr Wong actually began training under GM Cheung?
@@James-g3w7w Cheung Lai Chuen was the 4th generation teacher of Pak Mei (Bai Mei). Dr. Wong was instructed by the 5th generation teachers Chang Beng Fat & Ng Nam King (aka Zhong Ping Fa & Wu Nan Jing).
Thank you
Find something critical with what he does and that makes you better than he was? C'mon He was more pure than most of today's practitioners from China. The Chinese government didn't filter what he could and couldn't teach. He taught whites in a time when he wasn't supposed to do that either. He was REAL. Big dudes who thought they could fight were not able to defeat him. Thanks for sharing Dr. Wong. May he know joy and rest in peace.
Tight!
Very nicely done, may Sifu Wong rest in peace,my regards to his Pai.
His power and softness were equally amazing.
If he get his hands on you, it's over!!!
Very nice video on this great southern system of Kung Fu , most people only think wing Chung has a close combat range square on to the opponent, controlling the Centre line and using short triangler stepping, feet shoulder width apart, using pulsing and body weight, through the tendons to deliver power, however these are found in many southern systems, thankyou for sharing, and do you have any videos on there version of chi sau and sensitivity training???
Turiyan Gold,indeed,he did loose a lot of weight.
He started getting sick around 93, made this film in 95, he passed away in 09.His Nam King linage is still very much alive
What a pity ! Such a scholar and such a sifu ! May I know in what academic area did this scholar-sifu get his doctorate?
Ecniv Marng . Link about his educational degrees. www.kungfumagazine.com/forum/showthread.php?53671-Bak-Mei-Pai-Master-Dr-Y-Q-Wong-Passes
Good showing of the mechanics of Jik Bo Biu Ji Kuen. Pak Mei forms can be practiced at full speed/power, or practiced slowly, so long as the faat ging is at the end of each technique. If you practice slowly without the poper shapes, power, and breathing, you'll end up with kung fu, but it won't be Pak Mei.
It seems Dr. Wong was simply showing the "skeleton" of the form, here.
Do you have any more videos on Bak Mei?
Where did you happen to acquire this video series?
Who is Dr. Wong?
He lost some weight or this is an old tape?
This looks like quite odd pak Mei. Front and back foot very close, front foot pointing out rather than in, arms wide, no power, the fingers of his biu aren't together, asking for a broken finger, his punch is off centre, looks down at his feet when he turns. Doesn't look like CLC lineage pak mei. I believe this is the tremmor power guy, who sends his students flying with his magical powers.
I would have said the same thing if I had not trained under Dr Wong. As for lineage, I think he actually began under Cheung Lai Chuen, his father was a General in the Kuomintang under Chiang Kai Shek.
Yes, he's the tremor guy, I and others of all shapes and sizes have experienced it. When you start with him, he just says "attack me" and he forces you to either go all out (no matter what style or level of experience) so you know it's real. If you don't he would still teach you, but only in the strictly "pay to play" class. He would say, if you want to be good at Kung Fu you must fight.
As for the Biu Jee and punches, he had what looked like a squat rack with four duffle bags filled with rocks and sand and I've seen him hit those bags with fingers and phoenix eye hard enough to make them buckle.
HOWEVER, he made me keep my fingers together because I just wasn't on his level.
Your right, his Bak Mei doesn't look like anything you normally see, even in the videos from China I think they are trying to make it acceptable to the CCP.
He didn't fight "center line", always said, take the angle, control the elbow,. Said not to "bridge" like Wing Chun, destroy the bridge. He made my whole arm go numb and useless plenty of times just by hitting the radial nerve.
Anyway, just thought I'd share.
@@James-g3w7w thank you for sharing your first hand experience. I've no doubt that if one's fingers are conditioned sufficiently, one could biu without holding them together, and the concepts you mentioned all sound like Pak Mei. His approach to combat and testing students sounds realistic. Care to share what you know about tremor and what he said of it? Were you taught it yourself?
@@jamesfoong9252 I can say that I never came anywhere near his level, but I did come to "understand" it. When I began with him it was like magic and we, all of his students, were trying to comprehend it in some woo woo mystical new age manner. He used to get so frustrated and would say IT'S JUST PHYSICS, and go in his house (that was before the "dojo" and we just trained in his yard).
I've thought about the "demonstrations" over the years and asked why those particular demonstrations would be relevant.
During the sino-japanese war, Cheung Lai Chuen was attacked by "riot police", so, for example, I now see how being able to knock down a row of people "pushing" you was born from combat. Cheung was in narrow ally ways and had his attackers "pushing" their Shields to overpower him. It's the same techniques used by riot police today, and the tremor power knocked down multiple opponents.
On the other hand, the tremor power could be directed to nerve strikes, don't be confused with CHIN NA and seizing "pressure points", no doubt he do that but Bak Mei bridge destruction is striking to maim the person and disable the limb for the rest of their life. That's IF he let you live.
Imagine "dirty boxing" Mike Tyson training for years not just on his power but using it to take out eyes, crush throats, tear joints in half.
They don't allow that in MMA or train that mindset or allow that application of power.
Real Bak Mei is not self defense, it's designed to create "John Wick".
One other point, IF you are training John Wick, you DON'T want him to look like Arnold Schwartzeneger because he has to be undercover. So, you need him to look like he can blend in, but still use the power to kill. Being able to kill without weapons also helps you infiltrate, again, real Bak Mei is not self defense.
OH, I FORGOT TO MENTION CHEUNG LAI CHUEN TRAINED CHIANG KAI SHEK'S SPECIAL FORCES SEARCH AND DESTROY TEAMS. Maybe that puts Bak Mei into perspective.
@@James-g3w7w so is it related to chi then? I also saw a video where master Wong comes to blows with I think a praying mantis guy, in which his fighting ability does not appear to serve him as one might have expected. I wonder if you've seen that and have and views?
@@jamesfoong9252 No it's been taken down, I read a blow by blow commentary tell me if it's right.
There were few rules if any. They said it looked like a street brawl.
The Mantis guy was 40 and Wong was 57, I don't know the Mantis guys skill level or Dr Wong's condition (he died at 70 I think). They kept calling Dr Wong the little old Chinese man.
They said Dr Wong got kicked in the head.
They said the Mantis guy made the challenge that he could beat Dr Wong and his students could beat Dr Wongs students so in round two Dr Wongs student beat the Mantis guys student.
What did you see? Thanks for bringing it up, I just saw the post on Reddit with the video removed and I've been trying to find it.
Also wondering about Dr Wong's eyesight he was wearing pretty thick glasses 20 years before the fight when I knew him. I tip my hat to him for confidence though, how many sixty year olds im MMA?
his stands is not strong enough (too high), bridge doesn't have power