the stray kids predebut show wasn't really like i-land, because in i-land they kind of compete against one another to secure a place in the group, but in stray kids' show they started as the debut line up and they had to work together because the group could lose a member, the show was about their bond and desire to debut as that full 9 member line up, and JYPE came up with the show because Chan picked the members and he wanted them to prove they were ready to debut
Thankyou for the comment 😁 I didn't know that it was different from iland. Thanks for letting me know 😁 That's pretty interesting and honestly seems way more intense. Hopefully I can cope haha 🤣
Incase you plan on reacting to more off cam stray kids here is a little help with felix's nicknames because he has a few. "Felix" "Yongbok" (Korean name his grandfather gave him means lucky dragon or dragon scent) "Sunshine" He has more but these are the main 3 tho. And I just mainly wanted you to know yongbok since it's a comepletely different name and may confuse you
omg saaame i used to really not like rap until kpop and then even then i wouldnt love it until i discovered stray kids and 3racha and really liked the hiphop genre when mixed in their music ah sadly many immigrant kids who dont learn the language well so there are families like felix's who spoke english to him so he went to korea with zero korean skills. i think chan grew up speaking konglish so a mix and since he moved to korea when he was 13/14 and attended high school there he became very fluent in korea. and there's also kids like me in the majority where we grow up with parents who only speak their home language and we grow up speaking it to them but only able to speak at the level of an elementary student and have strong english accents so our parents may understand our needs but a native speaker would be incredibly confused. ooo there's also many kids who have parents who speak in their own language and they reply back in english so this results in them understanding the language but not being able to speak it at all stray kids have the most drastic on/off stage difference in image of a group that i know. they have such tough and confident songs and their offstage is so soft and affectionate. all of them are very cute especially their group bond, it's so pure and wholesome
Thankyou for the comment 😁 It's so cool how you discovered how good rap was the same way. Sometimes you just need that one thing to help you along haha 🤣 Yeah its really sad to see when that sort of thing happens with a language. It's something to be proud of but I guess with living away you don't get a lot of opportunities to use it unless your family make a point of using it and teaching it to you properly. Although now days its awesome to see that people are wanting to learn their own languages, and with the internet that definitely helps with that. Even though I'm of European desent, I feel very connected to the country I was born in (New Zealand), and I want to become fluent in the native language which is Maori. Most kiwis know some words because we use them in everyday life but nobody is very fluent. More and more people are wanting to learn it now which is real awesome. I should try and use some words in my videos to practice and to teach people a little about my country 😁 What's your family heritage if you don't mind me asking haha? 🤣 I love learning about other cultures 😁
@@freyanz2450 ooo our cousin, the kiwis! im australian and my background/parents are chinese. my chinese has been slowly improving thanks to me becoming a fan of a cpop group so im glad there's that. it's soo cool that the maori language is mixed in to ur everyday language and it would definitely be fun to hear u speak some in ur videos. i wish we had incorporated more indigenous australian's languages to our english (i think there is a few but it they arent common to use especially in the city areas) however since there were no common language like maori but instead over 200 different ones and even more dialects, most of their languages have been forgotten or are currently endangered which is really upsetting.
@@a_lost_staysider Aussie cousin yay! Wow that is so cool :-) My knowledge of maori is very limited but I will definitely give it a go in my videos for sure. Just little bits to start with though because Im not super confident. Yeah thats really sad about the languages, and I wish we could keep all them alive but I guess thats really hard when there is so many.
Additions/clarifications as I watch (pt 1): - CB97: Chris Bang + 1997 (his birth year) = Chan SPEARB: _Chang_ means _spear_ + "B" from _Bin_ = Changbin J.One: _Han(a)_ is _one_ + "J" from _Jisung_ = Han Jisung = Han - This guide doesn't emphasize the importance of Chan picking the members. It's unheard of for that to happen. Companies make the groups, period. SKZ is the _only_ group in the entire industry that was made by the leader, not the company. A teenage trainee put together one of the most successful 4th-gen groups. - The show was them proving themselves ready to debut together, not them getting chosen for the team. So even their survival show was different than others'. - No, Chan isn't a Korean citizen. Korea now requires dual-citizen men to serve the mandatory military service if they want to keep dual citizenship. Chan and Felix both gave up their claims to Korean citizenship and are solely Australian citizens (and will thus not have to serve in the Korean military). Even before he was old enough to make the citizenship decision, Chan has always made it clear he identifies as Australian first and foremost (even just within the last couple months, he said, "I'm a foreigner.") - The language thing (about immigrant parents making sure their kids speak the parents' native language), unfortunately, isn't true, but I do see others have covered that in the comments, so I'll just nod thankfully at them for clarifying that. As a side note just because I think it's lovely: while Chan's Korean is nearly perfect now and Felix's is fluent and continually improving, they both have accents. Not on everything, but enough that they sometimes comment on it, the members occasionally tease them about it, and once in a while even we can hear Korean words coming out in an Aussie-tinged form. - As is the nature of guides, they quickly become outdated, and this one is no exception. Their number of albums/songs has increased significantly since this was made. - Most guides are misinformative regarding positions. This guide technically lists "roles" instead of "positions," so it's not entirely wrong, but it doesn't really factor in that people are conditioned to equate roles with positions because that's the way of kpop. So to be clear: there is no "main dancer" or "subrapper" or whatever anymore. We and they still use the terms as shorthand, but there are _officially_ no longer any set positions within SKZ except for leader. Since all eight members are singers, rappers, dancers, and visuals, they're not tied to positions and will move around in different songs to suit themselves and the needs of the piece. - That said, Lee Know has the unofficial official position of Dance Leader (not lead dancer). Part of the reason Chan chose him for the team was to take advantage of Lee Know's skills and experience and hand over responsibility for the team's dancing to him. It's not uncommon for us to see footage that includes him monitoring every member during practice or individually tutoring members when needed. (cont...)
Wow thankyou so much for the comment. Yeah I agree with what was said about guides. Thankyou for giving me the new info :-) I definitely want to make sure I get the up to date info so I might check out another video or look it up online. I honestly think they are so amazing, and Im excited to watch their show at some point. Thankyou for the clarification around the show and all the other info you gave me :-)
the stray kids predebut show wasn't really like i-land, because in i-land they kind of compete against one another to secure a place in the group, but in stray kids' show they started as the debut line up and they had to work together because the group could lose a member, the show was about their bond and desire to debut as that full 9 member line up, and JYPE came up with the show because Chan picked the members and he wanted them to prove they were ready to debut
Thankyou for the comment 😁 I didn't know that it was different from iland. Thanks for letting me know 😁 That's pretty interesting and honestly seems way more intense. Hopefully I can cope haha 🤣
Subtitles are always added to their vlives if you want to go back and watch them later! :]
Yes totally will 😁 Thankyou for the comment 😁
Thank youu for taking your time to know the kids (Stray Kids)🤗🤗❣️
Thankyou for the comment 😁 It's honestly been so much fun learning about them. I can't wait for more 😁
Incase you plan on reacting to more off cam stray kids here is a little help with felix's nicknames because he has a few.
"Felix"
"Yongbok" (Korean name his grandfather gave him means lucky dragon or dragon scent)
"Sunshine"
He has more but these are the main 3 tho. And I just mainly wanted you to know yongbok since it's a comepletely different name and may confuse you
Thanks for the comment 😁 I love when people have nick names like that. I will be sure to remember them for next time 😁
omg saaame i used to really not like rap until kpop and then even then i wouldnt love it until i discovered stray kids and 3racha and really liked the hiphop genre when mixed in their music
ah sadly many immigrant kids who dont learn the language well so there are families like felix's who spoke english to him so he went to korea with zero korean skills. i think chan grew up speaking konglish so a mix and since he moved to korea when he was 13/14 and attended high school there he became very fluent in korea. and there's also kids like me in the majority where we grow up with parents who only speak their home language and we grow up speaking it to them but only able to speak at the level of an elementary student and have strong english accents so our parents may understand our needs but a native speaker would be incredibly confused. ooo there's also many kids who have parents who speak in their own language and they reply back in english so this results in them understanding the language but not being able to speak it at all
stray kids have the most drastic on/off stage difference in image of a group that i know. they have such tough and confident songs and their offstage is so soft and affectionate. all of them are very cute especially their group bond, it's so pure and wholesome
Thankyou for the comment 😁 It's so cool how you discovered how good rap was the same way. Sometimes you just need that one thing to help you along haha 🤣 Yeah its really sad to see when that sort of thing happens with a language. It's something to be proud of but I guess with living away you don't get a lot of opportunities to use it unless your family make a point of using it and teaching it to you properly. Although now days its awesome to see that people are wanting to learn their own languages, and with the internet that definitely helps with that. Even though I'm of European desent, I feel very connected to the country I was born in (New Zealand), and I want to become fluent in the native language which is Maori. Most kiwis know some words because we use them in everyday life but nobody is very fluent. More and more people are wanting to learn it now which is real awesome. I should try and use some words in my videos to practice and to teach people a little about my country 😁
What's your family heritage if you don't mind me asking haha? 🤣 I love learning about other cultures 😁
@@freyanz2450 ooo our cousin, the kiwis! im australian and my background/parents are chinese. my chinese has been slowly improving thanks to me becoming a fan of a cpop group so im glad there's that. it's soo cool that the maori language is mixed in to ur everyday language and it would definitely be fun to hear u speak some in ur videos. i wish we had incorporated more indigenous australian's languages to our english (i think there is a few but it they arent common to use especially in the city areas) however since there were no common language like maori but instead over 200 different ones and even more dialects, most of their languages have been forgotten or are currently endangered which is really upsetting.
@@a_lost_staysider Aussie cousin yay! Wow that is so cool :-) My knowledge of maori is very limited but I will definitely give it a go in my videos for sure. Just little bits to start with though because Im not super confident. Yeah thats really sad about the languages, and I wish we could keep all them alive but I guess thats really hard when there is so many.
Additions/clarifications as I watch (pt 1):
- CB97: Chris Bang + 1997 (his birth year) = Chan
SPEARB: _Chang_ means _spear_ + "B" from _Bin_ = Changbin
J.One: _Han(a)_ is _one_ + "J" from _Jisung_ = Han Jisung = Han
- This guide doesn't emphasize the importance of Chan picking the members. It's unheard of for that to happen. Companies make the groups, period. SKZ is the _only_ group in the entire industry that was made by the leader, not the company. A teenage trainee put together one of the most successful 4th-gen groups.
- The show was them proving themselves ready to debut together, not them getting chosen for the team. So even their survival show was different than others'.
- No, Chan isn't a Korean citizen. Korea now requires dual-citizen men to serve the mandatory military service if they want to keep dual citizenship. Chan and Felix both gave up their claims to Korean citizenship and are solely Australian citizens (and will thus not have to serve in the Korean military). Even before he was old enough to make the citizenship decision, Chan has always made it clear he identifies as Australian first and foremost (even just within the last couple months, he said, "I'm a foreigner.")
- The language thing (about immigrant parents making sure their kids speak the parents' native language), unfortunately, isn't true, but I do see others have covered that in the comments, so I'll just nod thankfully at them for clarifying that. As a side note just because I think it's lovely: while Chan's Korean is nearly perfect now and Felix's is fluent and continually improving, they both have accents. Not on everything, but enough that they sometimes comment on it, the members occasionally tease them about it, and once in a while even we can hear Korean words coming out in an Aussie-tinged form.
- As is the nature of guides, they quickly become outdated, and this one is no exception. Their number of albums/songs has increased significantly since this was made.
- Most guides are misinformative regarding positions. This guide technically lists "roles" instead of "positions," so it's not entirely wrong, but it doesn't really factor in that people are conditioned to equate roles with positions because that's the way of kpop. So to be clear: there is no "main dancer" or "subrapper" or whatever anymore. We and they still use the terms as shorthand, but there are _officially_ no longer any set positions within SKZ except for leader. Since all eight members are singers, rappers, dancers, and visuals, they're not tied to positions and will move around in different songs to suit themselves and the needs of the piece.
- That said, Lee Know has the unofficial official position of Dance Leader (not lead dancer). Part of the reason Chan chose him for the team was to take advantage of Lee Know's skills and experience and hand over responsibility for the team's dancing to him. It's not uncommon for us to see footage that includes him monitoring every member during practice or individually tutoring members when needed.
(cont...)
Wow thankyou so much for the comment. Yeah I agree with what was said about guides. Thankyou for giving me the new info :-) I definitely want to make sure I get the up to date info so I might check out another video or look it up online. I honestly think they are so amazing, and Im excited to watch their show at some point. Thankyou for the clarification around the show and all the other info you gave me :-)