Testing Nokian tires on ice track in Ivalo
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- Опубліковано 25 лип 2024
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Bonjour from Canada 🍁 . Bought the R5 today and they much better than my all season Michelin tires. It is quiet and less slippery around the corners.
Instantly knew he was Finnish from the monotone speech. I guess Kimi Raikkonen is actually pretty representative of the accent.
This winter in the Nordics has shown the value of studded tires: when your maneuvering in icy ruts supposed to be roads in Nordic capitals (only) studded tires deliver
23:04 Bjorn casually sliding into your DM's
What is DM?
@@bjornnyland Direct messages
Hehe :D
Getting my Model Y with Nokkia Hakka 10 EV studded tires in a few weeks. I have used Nokkia for as long as I have been driving, almost 25 years.
How were the Hakka 10?
@@joepearlzz8504 if you drive in ice, or powder on ice, nothing can beat them. Gives you more grip than you dare to test.
@@Pomaco4U what about deep snow? For the price they have to be very good
@@joepearlzz8504 Hi, I don't understand what you mean. The most difficult to get a grip on is ice close to 0 degrees C. Deep snow is more up to your cars abilities, do you have 4 x 4 etc. I have never had any problem in deep snow. Military driving training for snow and desert helps.
That was sooo COOOOLLLLL!!
Brilliant video, really interesting.
Great video!
Thank you for the video. Commenting for algorithm.
Like that : “most drivers on public roads can’t control their cars “ - but also drive fast and furious and have even worse tyres
Hakka R5 world premiere? Wow :D
I wish a good Nokian product video would be produced featuring Nokian tires designated for the North American market.
Good vid.
Cool testing, and of course studded tires offer the best traction. Would be nice to see consumption comparison too between the tires... Personally I'll never go back to studded just because of comfort and nice feeling that i'm not "grinding" road surface so much. Anyway you will drive most of the time on snow or dry/wet tarmac. Super slippery ice is not very usual and if that happens you go more slowly.
Our roads has been icy for 4 months now and it's totally normal here in Finland.
@@p1u well I live in Finland and easter part. So roads are mostly snow covered or salted and dry tarmac. Of course people are so stupid that many drive same spot in the road and make deep grooves. Had studded tires many years but when changed to studless notice how good they are and now will never get studded again.
This is not always the case. Top tier studdless tires perform a lot better on pure ice (like this new HP R5) than cheap studded tires.
@@santtu9169 I think it also boils down to people trusting the studs more, so they push the limits more and end up losing traction more foten than with studless.
@@santtu9169 Especially during the first winter, but as the rubber gets harder it keeps losing grip. Of course they don't do testing with 2-5 year old tyres, but it's pretty obvious that studded tyres keep their grip on ice a bit longer.
The guy seems like the Ice Man himself (Kimi Räikkönen) 😂
I bought the Hakka R5 SUV none studded, waiting for snow to let you guys know how well they manage.
Super video. Will buy them for my new Tesla Y next winter season in Austria 🇦🇹
Dont suport the war they are from russia
@@linasssss get your facts straight, Nokian is a Finnish company!
@@hequsn His facts are straight. Even though Nokian is headquatered in Finland they have plants in both Russia, Finland and the US. They have had the plant in Vsevolozhsk near St. Petersburg in Russia since 2005, because the salaries are much lower in Russia than Finland. Nokian has 1,600 employees on their Russian plant according to their own website. Someone else in these comments that they manufacture 80% of their tires in Russia, but I don't know is this percentage is correct.
In 2019 Nokian also opened a plant in the US in Dayton, Tennessee.
Production of Nokian tyres are also licenses out to other tyre manufactures across the world.
Looking at the display on the screen, it’s clear that the screen indicates which wheels are braking for stability control. Of course braking individual wheels for the stability control system will also cause loss of traction, so the same reasoning could be applied, but when going sideways, all tires are sliding but not all are red, which clearly indicates individual wheel braking for the system
I got the Snowproof P as winter tires for my model 3P in switzerland, and they heve doe a good job until now even on swiss mountain and snow roads, 2 winters in , 30'000km this season we had a lot of dry roads and went to a roadtrip to portugal with temperatures aroud 10 at night and 20°c ins spanish and portuguease roads , and the wear is ptretty good, jus reach now the 4mm snow mark.
Yeah, even in Switzerland roads are usually either wet or dry or snowed, not frozen like north of about 60N
@@rkan2 yup, it’s rare. It can happens but for small portions of road, or some non saltd secondary roads especially at night
@@rkan2 Google nokian cheated
@@rkan2 true! exept some mountain path roads or secondary roads not allways cleaned, but yes by far less than northern countries ;)
Nokian for the win! The new tire is outstanding.
@Mike Mellock Google nokian cheated
I could drive that track all day...
80% of Nokian tires are made in Russia. Some are only made in Russia.Expect a shortage until they can make more in Finland and USA.
❤️ 🇷🇺
@@firstandlastname2390 Google nokian cheated
@@EXCELSIOR_INC I didn’t know that. Not really surprised, I am sure many other companies are lying about different things too….
So the Nokian R5 or R10 tyres are made specially for Nordic very low temperatures?
Hi do you recommend HAKKAPELIITTA R5 on Tesla Model Y ? I live in Vancouver, CANADA and we are getting lots of snow these past couple of winters. Thanks
Please bring the R5 tires to the US for the XC40 Recharge! 235/50/19 and 255/45/19!
Hear it right. "Optimized for summer and winter conditions" means compromising both, but especially winter safety. If you drive on white, choose right.
Like he said not recommended for Nordic conditions but in U.K. and other countries where conditions are not as cold or icy generally wet - these all season tyres are perfect
yeah but a lot of crazy people want to put the strictly winter tires on when its sort of cold but dry... then they get really shitty performance especially braking distance... its like wearing some ruddy old boots and trying to have a run
I have the European all season tyres on my Tesla M3. They are not good in any way, but I'm also too lazy and cheap to change tyres twice a year.
@@RA-ug7if Google nokian cheated
The only right tyre for winter is s proper studded tyre. There should be 0 compromises in safety when it comes to driving and especially in icy and snowy conditions
Studded are forbidden in many countries.
I've been driving with studdless tires from 1998 (in Center Finland). I've not been blocking traffic and I've not had accidents and I do 15 to 25000 km in year. Safe driving is just adjusting your driving to conditions and that is something most people cannot for some reason do.
Hard pass for me.. Never studs.. Just drive according to conditions. My R3 works fine. Next will probably be R5
@@kjartanB i use r3 and they are great, tempted to get the r5 for my van this winter
@@poisedonis Google nokian cheated
i guess Ev10 only with studs? so Ev5 will be my next one
Tesla with deactivated traction control is undrivable because of the instant torque I see you use track mode but didn't see the setup.
I'm trying to chose between R5 EV and 10 RV. How much more noise you have with the 10 EV? I'm scared it would be too noisy
I had nokia 10 ev and is much more noisier that Viking Contact 7. Viking Contact is quieter than Michelin pilot sport summer tire. Iwould go with R5 if studded tire is not necessity.
Normal R5 vs. EV ?
Is traction diference or is it only louder?
I want to buy for G-class
Did Tesla unlock some limited software on the Ice Track? I have never seen the "Gran Turismo" style grip status on the left of the display
Track mode on performance
The WR snowproof P is so noisy between 70 and about 90 km/h. Next time I would not buy Nokian again for my Model 3. Would not recommend it
This perfectly shows why studded tires are actually better at around zero temperatures, than non-studded. This is typical myth everyone spreading in Europe why you don't need studded tires. The real reason is it damages road surface.
Studded tires are always better on ice of course. However in most places below around 50N the roads don't usually stay wet enough for long enough for studded tires to make sense. North of 50N you can have almost the whole winter with the roads wet - and if they freeze, studs are best of course. If they are just wet, all seasons or winter tires are better.
@@rkan2 Yep. During that specific weather around 0 celsius and wet ice studs helps, which I think is quite rare condition. But actually today in (in Finland) was day when my studless tires felt quite slippery ... I do not remember last time when I felt so.
So while studded tires are better in extreme icy conditions any even average driver will be just fine with Nokia R's (i.e. studless tires).
Tyres made in russia. How will this affect?
It's going to cause supply problems. Nokian has stated that they are moving production to Finland and the US but they do not have the capacity to replace the St. Petersburg production facility.
There won't be Russian made tires in the EU by the end of the year...
Same As gaz, oil, raw materials all will be limited and Europe will pay more expensive for less offer and probably go back vlad in 6 to
12 months and sorry can we have a bit gaz and some raw material coz we’re close
To Stone Age right now…pleeeeease
@@TuomasLeone Yeah, this was in talks when they opened the factories in the New russia. Then considered a small risk.
Anyone want to buy my gently loved R3 SUV tires? 😭😅
Used Nokian tires for 15 years. After they got caught cheating the tests I changed to Continental, super happy with German precision, as always👌🏻
Hopefully you don't drive VW then.
Continental cheated first, or got caught first :D
@@karvis79 Google nokian cheated and they cheated on tire tests
Google continental cheated gets diesel cheating for vw not continental tires
Al car company's cheat on emission's
@@EXCELSIOR_INC You are wrong, Continental cheated tire test in Finland in 2004. Continental provided a manipulated tires for testing that was different from the tires sold in the shop, just like what Nokian did later.
@@karvis79 Nothing on the internet about it
Google nokian cheated
Help for 🇺🇦 Ukraine
Should we send Bjørn to Ukraine for different winter tires tests?
Studded tires mafia at work. The roads are grinded to powder each winter, huge grooves in the roads. Finnish government getting kickbacks from Nokian and all the road surfacing companies. Total madness. With modern cars, you could easily ban studded tires, and then we could have smoother roads (studded tires force the road surface to use hard gravel in large gravel size, which makes the nordic ass falt so rough. Also, the large gravel size makes the roads soak up the water a lot better in weather where the water then freezes and melts, further eroding the roads. Like I said, total madness. Plus we breathe in the oil based dust in the spring, and thousands of people die from lung issues. We need to ban or tax studded tires ASAP. But so many people want "just best tire for me - I dont care for the roads". It is tragedy of the commons all over again.
Conspiracy comment 😎 you do know we use Continental/Michelin/Goodyear/Pirelli winter studded tyres in Finland, Sweden and Norway too, are they part of the mafia group ? 🙈🙈
I agree but not on the tin foil hat part :D
I have recommended Nokians for years. HOWEVER, even in light of Russian atrocities in Ukraine, Nokian stands behind and is running its factory in Russia like normal. I will not purchase another set of tires from them if this remains their position. Slava Ukraini!
I don't understand this viewpoint. Why punish regular citizens? Do you have any control over what the politicians in your country choose to do? (No one does.)
@@agentmango Real simple: My money. I will spend my money-- to the best of my ability-- in places where values align with my own. I'm sure nice people work at the Russian factory, but there are nice people working at their competitor's factories too -- why not give them my business if they're operating in a different country? Why would I instead favor a product made in a dictatorship? That's the choice.
@@NZCUTR I respect your choice on where you wish to spend your money. It is one of the few ways individuals have influence. Fwiw, Nokian has now shut down their Russian operations.
@@cbenson513 it took them four months to take any action. That's hardly admirable.
@@NZCUTR Just noting the fact that they are out now. Opinions on their actions will vary and are up to each of us.
Dont buy nokian tires they from russia
Finnish 😑 not Russian
Nokian is reacting and moving their production away from Russia. They have factories in other countries too, only fraction of the tyres are made in Russia.
Almost all western tyre manufacturers have production facility also in Russia, like Nokian Tyres.
@@Astronomine 80% are Russian made. Some are only made in Russia.
@@foxy5855Google nokian cheated