2raw2ride UPDATE & TikTok LIVE about SAVING the HORSES

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  • @amandakorbe3773
    @amandakorbe3773 Рік тому +10

    I have a bunch of contacts in Spokane if you guys are expecting him to go that way, I can make some calls & get them ready...

  • @amandakorbe3773
    @amandakorbe3773 Рік тому +18

    The Nez Perez love their horses & would totally act. You really should call the tribe, they would be all over this.

  • @lisaitrindle1720
    @lisaitrindle1720 Рік тому +6

    Well, someone could say HI, and talk to him and tell him how cool it is for what he's doing, how great it is. Just to keep him there, until the police come.

  • @sonja9813
    @sonja9813 Рік тому +6

    I respect you all so much. I didn't grow up around horses and I'm a bit scared of them but, my god, thank you for helping these beautiful creatures. Saving animals is my calling also.

  • @mlssrosler168
    @mlssrosler168 Рік тому +8

    Thank you guys for all you're trying to do for these horses! I wish I could help you, but I live in PA and have no money. I signed and shared that petition someone put up, but I don't have a ton of Facebook friends and am not in any equestrian groups (big time introvert here!) But I will share this now so maybe somebody I know knows somebody who can help more! Thank you again. This idiot needs to be stopped.

  • @blackdandelion5549
    @blackdandelion5549 Рік тому +5

    As a 25+ yr horse owner/trainer the grain and forage amount he said. . .my head just swiveled because I help with a 32 and 34 yr old pair of horses who have trouble keeping weight on and don't get 12lbs of grain in a day. . . . .the owner and I both know they would get colic, cushings, or laminitis.
    Second, my prediction for what happens to his horse next is exertional rhabdomyolysis (ER) AKA "tying up". When the body has no more fat to burn off and the body is still needing calories it burns any available muscle for this and the technical name is exertional rhabdomyolysis, but many horse people refer to it as "tying up" as the muscles are not working properly, but the core issue is the body has no more fat and is not intaking enough calories so it uses remaining muscle as fuel for the body. It's a starvation and survival issue we don't often see because if the people on screen or I pulled from a Kill Pen with horses looking anything like this. . . . .they wouldn't have saddles on. They would be on a refeeding program and I'd be grabbing a fecal to ensure they don't have parasites because if they did I would potentially need a vet as horses like that can colic and go down from being wormed with a parasite load.

    • @lizpound2278
      @lizpound2278 Рік тому

      Your correct that amount of grain = laminitis for sure.

    • @blackdandelion5549
      @blackdandelion5549 Рік тому

      @@lizpound2278 I dbl check with a vet due to the amount of weight loss and it being suggested for 12 lbs grain. Vet responded to me that upwards of 10lbs of grain, especially senior feed, is what they do for horses who are so skinny on the Henneke Body Score or what we horse people know as the scale of 1 to 9 where 5 is healthy and 1 and 2 are walking skeletons, but that 12 lbs of grain per day can be suggested when the body score is so low that the horse needs that much fat to survive and the options are "High grain and fat content" or "Potential death/starvation/body shutting down" and that is when they recommend between 12 to 20 lbs of grain because it's better the horse lives and gets laminitis and gets too much sugar than just dies. It's the lesser of two evils where the horse will survive and then be put on a metabolic med but they need the weight in order to live at a body sore of 1 or 2.
      This means the spine is protruding. The hips are protruding. The shoulders are bony. There is no topline at all. No average horse person would ride this horse due to the lack of topline and muscle. The saddle or gear would be sitting right on the spine and ribs as there is no fat covering them and even people who ride horses with some swayback with poor toplines put on a LOT of thick padding like 1 inch thick wool pads and then another on top so the back and ribs are entirely protected from the saddle or gear.
      So. Vet says that much grain is given even when laminitis or cushings is a risk because the risk of death or severe complications (entirely tying up) leading to death is higher. Better to be alive with laminitis (and be a pasture ornament) than just dead. None of the horse the vet has ever suggested it for have been under any work and all have been on complete rest to put on weight ASAP and under vet supervision. Almost all were extreme seniors or severe neglect cases.

    • @lizpound2278
      @lizpound2278 Рік тому

      @@blackdandelion5549 I lost my mare from laminitis and it's far worse than being a pasture ornament. This was with the vet visiting every day and a specialized farrier. I said goodbye after watching her suffer for almost four weeks. At a barn I was keeping my 36 yo OTTB, a teenager got into my senior feed (I always supply my own feed and grain) and gave 4 - 5 quarts of it to her AQHA gelding. Three days later he refused to move and the x-rays were clear the coffin bone had sunk. I watched that horse suffer for 7 months, muscles atrophied, sores from being down for so long, it was horrific. She finally put him down, but it was an awful experience just watching it from spring until fall. I don't think Pete is going to make it much longer. I cringe when I see the rocks, etc. he is subjecting these poor animals through, and he doesn't have a clue how to ride.

    • @blackdandelion5549
      @blackdandelion5549 Рік тому

      @@lizpound2278 I lost my stallion to laminitis and I had the best farrier in the state who taught at our farrier school and he worked with my vet where I took my stallion in to take X-rays and get treatments. I was soaking his feet 2X a day. I had custom pads for his feet that I needed to change everyday so he basically walked on cushions. I spent approx $10k trying to save him until we went to the vet w/ the farrier for another set of X-rays. The farrier was taking a slight bit off the sole and he just hit a pocket of infection and I got called back to look at the X-rays and was told the only way he would survive was with a "clean room" or basically a sterile room as the infection was inside his hooves and even if I sent him to the University he had less than a 50% chance. I put him down that day.
      I also had a pony prone to laminitis growing up as well where he did founder once or twice before I bought him, but no significant rotation of the coffin bone and he was rideable w/o any issues, but like many ponies with chunky necks and round in shape he needed us to watch his weight and if we got concerned he had medication he would be put on. We watched his weight and the farrier let us know if he saw the slightest sign of any laminae separating.
      I understand laminitis can kill and be painful, but when the option is the horse potentially foundering for the first time in it's life due to metabolism (potentially as he is burning through calories) or potential starvation and likely death. . . .you would rather have something you can maybe fix or that may not have a large rotation of the coffin bone over knowing the horse will starve, tie-up, and die. It's the lesser of two evils. While founder/laminitis can be bad, many horses do recover from it vs death where there is no recovery. I really do understand your pain and the horse's pain. I'm sorry for your loss. It's very painful to go through and watch. It's just that in this situation the horse is likely burning through so many calories that it's better to keep him alive and have a chance to fix whatever may be wrong vs starvation, his body eating it's own muscles/tying up, and death. He is simply so skinny that he needs that much grain to not have his body go into a starvation mode. He needs the calories that badly and that should say something about the horses condition.

    • @lizpound2278
      @lizpound2278 Рік тому

      @@blackdandelion5549 I guess my point is if it were me trying this attention speaking money grab, I would have plotted and planned my trip with available "horse hotels' so they could munch on good quality hay on the stop. If there were no such facility available, I would arrange a "meet point with somebody who was willing to make the drop. I would also have purchased correct packing gear so the pack horse could doesn't have the weight of another saddle plus the gear. This is the kind of human who sickens me. He has zero empathy for his animals and is all about the money. He should have taken the 20K and ran because when this is over I doubt anyone will offer more than $2500 for Falcon and maybe $500 tops for Pete.

  • @CaliforniaCowgirl707
    @CaliforniaCowgirl707 Рік тому +7

    I have people keeping an eye out for him. In states he is traveling through. I hope with all my heart that these poor horse's get taken away and he gets locked up. This idiot is so hated by so many people, for the fact cares about himself and not Falcon and Old Pete. Still makes me mad, that he is riding two badly lame horses. And who know how Old Pete doing after that colic episode. 😢

  • @lspthrattan
    @lspthrattan Рік тому +10

    If he's showing a pattern of dodging points where they may be law enforcement looking for him, doesn't that make him a fugitive? Evading arrest is against the law everywhere I've ever heard of in this country...

    • @sassytiktoker
      @sassytiktoker  Рік тому

      As far as I know, he doesn't have a warrant.

    • @AnarchoShark
      @AnarchoShark Рік тому +1

      If he doesn't have a warrant for his arrest then legally he's not evading......sad to say bc those horses need saved

  • @bridgetveralidaine3761
    @bridgetveralidaine3761 Рік тому +4

    I wonder if we could have Dr. Grande do an analysis of the case of Cyril. Would be content for his channel, bring some new viewers for him, and help get the word out about the shady behaviour and animal cruelty.... and maybe get some more eyes out there on the ground so perhaps these horses will finally have a proper complete exam by veterinarians.

    • @bridgetveralidaine3761
      @bridgetveralidaine3761 Рік тому +2

      If there were a way to compile a clear and concise chronological timeline of events, hitting all the main points, including the videos from professional long riders telling him that what he is doing to his horses is wrong, offering advice, and Cyril shunning it because he thinks he knows better than seasoned pros..... The delusion of a Netflix documentary, Pete being in clear poor condition and Cyril inviting someone to ride Pete anyway... I think it might be worth a shot.

    • @sassytiktoker
      @sassytiktoker  Рік тому +1

      I love Dr. Grande!

  • @bcgrote
    @bcgrote Рік тому +7

    How did he end up on WitchTok? Witches CARE, and are aware, and serve those who can't speak. Hoping there is a spell where he feels what those horses have felt.

    • @sassytiktoker
      @sassytiktoker  Рік тому +2

      He's in trouble with WitchTok and it makes me so happy!

  • @Plantsandtoyhorses
    @Plantsandtoyhorses Рік тому +4

    I certainly hope they can rescue the horses before he would ever get any really dangerous wilderness areas. :(

    • @Plantsandtoyhorses
      @Plantsandtoyhorses Рік тому +1

      And I'm wondering if his father came to "ride with him, would he be so cruel as to ride Pete? since he obviously couldn't bring his own horse. Also, letting the horses forage could be dangerous if they eat something toxic, or couldn't it also cause more colic?

  • @karenscoville6307
    @karenscoville6307 Рік тому +2

    If he makes it to Washington I'll go look for him on my days off too!!!

  • @RavenSaint1
    @RavenSaint1 Рік тому

    I rode horses for a long time as a teen. Horses who were rode long days and working everyday across a large property (took three days from one side to the other), they slim out and if you didn't know that they were working each day and getting grain and high energy feed, they looked like they were malnourished and over worked. We had a few who would bow out in the hind quarters over rough terrain, they "walked like old men" and were some of the most hardy horses we had. They would look tired and sore, but put them in front of a cow or calf you wanted to cut from the herd, head comes up, ears prick forward, and they put their work face on. As soon as the job was done, back to being the pokey old nag looking horse. I think we had one horse who was 23 that the owner rode on some of those rides out across property. Bones sticking out all over the place, looked like it was about to tip over, along with its rider who was all sinew and bone himself. The old guy told us, if he and his horse sat back at the house and barn, they'd just fade away, and he didn't want that. He would get sad watching us ride out, and his horse would droop in disappointment and go off his feed. Both go riding with us, and the horse would eat like all the others, hollow out and look like he was going to die on the spot, but he was more stubborn than the one mule who carried all the gear and food for the ride.
    I do agree the horses look rougher than any we had on that farm property, but I'd get them checked by a vet before dropping judgement. Horses change depending on their jobs and what they are doing day in and day out. Most equestrian horses get nightly barn or field to hang out in, they are lucky if they do an all day cross country ride, they get rest between shows or riding, and the horses tend to be sedentary most of the day. Even mustangs out in the wild don't look as "plump and healthy" as a lot of these equestrian horses. Get a plump equestrian horse to do the work of a long range work horse that works for weeks at a time and see what kind of condition they will look like they are in. I've gotten the pleasure of seeing a "cutting" horse brought along on one of those work rides as a kid. That horse went from big butt and well muscled to looking like the rest of our mustang and mutt horses in a few weeks of riding work. I'd have to see how much change these horses have gone through and what sort of feed they are being given, before I say this guy is abusing his horses.

    • @sassytiktoker
      @sassytiktoker  Рік тому +1

      In what circumstance is it ever ethical or good horsemanship to ride lame horses?

    • @RavenSaint1
      @RavenSaint1 Рік тому

      @@sassytiktoker Never ethical. If those horses are lame, get the SPCA and a few of the horse rescues in on the search. I know you guys have law enforcement after this guy. If he is crossing state lines to avoid law enforcement, he can be marked as a runner and bring in Marshals or Federal law enforcement. I know I haven't seen enough footage to make a judgement, but I do know that sometimes a horse's condition visually will not match the actual condition. If the horse is lame and he is not walking it or taking weight off the horse during the ride, to keep the lameness from getting worse. If he is not getting the lameness treated, letting the horse be free of weight and not ridden until the lameness heals or needs to be taken off the ride to get hospital/vet treatments and full rest at a barn with soft ground and possibly removal of shoes if the horse is not bare foot. Like I said, I have not seen enough footage to be able to judge the soundness of the horses. I just was talking about physical condition differences between horses that are in barns most of their lives versus those who are working and being ridden for long periods across hard land and brush while doing ranch work.
      If this guy is not treating those horses right. Send him my way in Arkansas where I've retired to. I'll give him a piece of my mind, and reach out and touch him with a high speed wireless device quite possibly, to riding or having weight on lamed horses during a long ride. I'd also keep those horses on my property so they could retire along with me and help me raise up some goats and the two babies I plan on bringing to the property for some pleasure riding the local horse trails at the wildlife parks near me.
      I don't condone abuse to any of God's creatures, I have seen enough of it over my years of working around farms, race tracks, and training (gentling as we called it when dealing with rescues from abusive farms) other people's horses. I wish I could travel back in time to make sure some of those people couldn't hurt another animal again. If he falls into that last group, make sure he is barred from ever having another horse (or animals of any sort) again.

  • @amandakorbe3773
    @amandakorbe3773 Рік тому +4

    Do you guys know which route he'd probably take through Oregon? I'm in Portland & I'm more than happy to start hounding state officials to get them ready to stop him if he comes this way. Let me know if there is anyway I can help.

  • @bluebear9497
    @bluebear9497 Рік тому +1

    I hope this works out well for these horses.

  • @AnarchoShark
    @AnarchoShark Рік тому

    If I wasn't all the way out in WV I'd love to help....only thing i can do is sign the petitions but i feel like even those are falling on deaf ears...

  • @horse_gamer1212
    @horse_gamer1212 Рік тому +1

    I know something Cyril doesn’t. How to take care of a horse properly.

  • @kathleengraves7529
    @kathleengraves7529 Рік тому +3

    Horses look thin. Struggling.

  • @Justagamerwholikeshorses
    @Justagamerwholikeshorses Рік тому +2

    His most recent reel is him climbing over a mountain BUT he used the same footage as in a old vid
    So I'm very confused

  • @kristiwetsel9531
    @kristiwetsel9531 Рік тому

    Has there been a video after pete went down ?

    • @sassytiktoker
      @sassytiktoker  Рік тому

      The things he's posting are not filmed on the same day. They're not in chronological order either. Pete is still alive at this time.

  • @Aliee-LRSporthorses
    @Aliee-LRSporthorses Рік тому

    Has ANYONE contacted Netflix? Stating all the violations he is committed since starting. He reminds me of the the Researcher and his girlfriend that were killed by a Kodiak bear because he crossed a line…

  • @kristaprice1954
    @kristaprice1954 Рік тому

    I wish I lived close to where he was riding through cuz I'd spend my off days looking for him for y'all. I live in Oregon but just east of the Portland metro area and I HIGHLY doubt he'll ride this far west. Most likely he'll either skip Oregon all together OR ride through the eastern tip/part of Oregon. But it may be for the best that I don't see this fool. Cuz I HIGHLY doubt I'd be able to hold my tongue and just video him without telling him what a POS he is for doing this to these sweet boys...

  • @pennyvalente9575
    @pennyvalente9575 Рік тому +4

    Have you ever thought that maybe by hunting him, exposing him, making videos about him (although it is about the horses) and giving him all this attention that it will make it all the more sellable content for Netflix? Sad to think God forbid something drastic happens to the horses (or him I guess) that it would be even better content. Better not give him any ideas huh?

    • @CaliforniaCowgirl707
      @CaliforniaCowgirl707 Рік тому

      He doesn't know about what these amazing people are doing. It's all on the down low. He hiding because he knows his horses look like s**t and is lame af. And he won't show proof of these so called vet checks.

    • @1jazzyphae
      @1jazzyphae Рік тому

      Why would Netflix support this? They're always getting canceled over something. Let it be animal abuse and the world will shut them down. This dude is bad for business

    • @barbrice721
      @barbrice721 Рік тому +2

      Well we can boycott it. Let them waste their money. Unless it's a documentary on what not to do. And money goes to horse rescue and wild horse maintenance.

    • @blackdandelion5549
      @blackdandelion5549 Рік тому +3

      Can you imagine the backlash Netflix would get if they picked up his footage and made a "Cyril" documentary? Plus, they actually send film crews and sign contracts. He is hoping Netflix will pick up these home shot videos of his when he isn't trained in how to be a videographer, appropriate lighting, no one direction him, etc. Most studios literally put "No animals were harmed in the making of this movie" so this would be more like "What some people will do for Internet Fame" and he and many others would be included in some terrible things from animal abuse to plane crashes to broken skulls. You can't put out a movie or videos where animals are harmed on a major platform. . . . .don't worry about the horse people, PETA is crazy AF. He is turning over evidence of equine abuse and if Netflix did 1 oz of due diligence to not be sued back to the stone age for putting out animal abuse content of horses starving and eating ditch weed and colicing it would never be published. Not in any capacity he wants at least. Think Tiger King, did he look like he came out as a calm and sane person?

    • @c.m.cordero1772
      @c.m.cordero1772 Рік тому +2

      Netflix won’t touch this.

  • @elizabethrauvola7738
    @elizabethrauvola7738 Рік тому +4

    Quit giving him attention, you’re doing exactly what he wants. Yes he will probably drive these horses into the ground, but the more people post about him the worse it will get. If everyone would just ignore him he’d have no reason to go on.

    • @Plantsandtoyhorses
      @Plantsandtoyhorses Рік тому +5

      I agree that this is also giving him attention, even if its negative attention. And he is certainly only doing this for attention. However, Im sure you know this is about the horses who didn't get a choice to be put through this dangerous situation, and about trying to rescue the horses in a way that abides by the laws. If only it was possible to get his apologists followers to stop giving him support.

  • @Rapture11.11
    @Rapture11.11 Рік тому

    Oh no, who is hiis dad going to ride?

  • @melodicb4nter
    @melodicb4nter Рік тому +1

    21:26 was the casual racism necessary?

  • @nicholasz3127
    @nicholasz3127 Рік тому

    🌸 Promo_SM