The worst thing about this review is the realization that it might be the last piece of content from you, because youtube obviously hates your hard work
On a related note, this is the voice I imagine for the avatar of the devil. The pitch is somewhere between a castrati and a drunk rabbi, just nasal enough for you to need to pay attention to what is being said or it fades into the background as some kind of summoning ritual.
I can't even fathom how good this video is... But it gets 100 times better once Saul is there. Fantastic running gag. Idk why you stopped making videos (prolly not worth the time invested right?) but fuck its good to see those kind of REAL in-depth videos once in a while.
Thanks. I'm currently working on an RDR2 critique where I'm going to be going through every mission, and it's a similar challenge keeping that from becoming tedious as well.
@@drummerboy1779 You sure like to make things the hard way. But honestly, I appreciate the hard work. Wish you loafs of success. I am watching your vid on witcher 3 atm. I'm enjoying it. So you earned my sub. 😁. Won't watch the RDR2 vid as I haven't played the game and I'm avoiding spoilers. Will be waiting for the vid after that one then.
I guess i never realized how quick the main quest lineis. Steal relic. Find evelyn. Find hellman. Find Alt. Kidnap Hanako. Meet Hanako at embers. Of course theres layers within, such as workong with Panaam or infiltrating arasaka park but damn its short. You can probably do the main story in 10 hours if you fast forward all the dialogue, walking and driving scenes
This is a GREAT video, so please don't take this next bit personally.... No one believed Yurinobo when he said Saburo was poisoned. There is even a scrap of dialog from Takemura where he askes "Poisoned?!" as though he is in complete disbelief. Just like was shown to us in the corpo life path, corpos are always killing each other to jockey for position. Takemura knows that defying Yurinobo in that moment would've (at best) lead to his death by Atom, or (at worst) the ENTIRE Arasaka security force coming down on him. When mixed with Takemura's sense of duty to his company, it makes perfect sense... Still, Yurinobo is a dumb shit if he thought that people would ACTUALLY believe him, but I feel that was intentional, too. Somewhat of an "eye roll" moment for the player to showcase Yurinobo's hot headed stupidity.
There's also dialogue from Hanako saying everyone on the board immediately knew it was a lie, but refused to speak up. Can't remember if it's part of the main story or only the optional "The Devil" ending.
Thank FUCKING you, cause I was literally seating here dumbfounded like "He doesn't know this isn't a plot hole does he?" And the BD recording tech,if you speak to Evelyn when Judy hooks you up with the BD editor she clearly states she has it implanted,it's easy to infer it's because she's a Doll. Not everyone wants what is essentially a 24-7 recording program in your head if you don't need it,let alone the complete breach of privacy it brings. Last thing,V saying he told Jackie about the Afterlife being a morgue a long time ago as a Street kid is also not a plot hole because in all life paths have time skip section you can't play so obviously he could have told him that then
I gotta say this was one of the most entertainingly edited long-form reviews I’ve had the pleasure of watching/listening to. From the flying Avocados to Companion Saul Saga to the sudden jump from the make-out with Kerry straight into the boat exploding nearly split my sides. Great video man, your hard work is appreciated!
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1:43:55 "That wasn't us!" V to dex when he accuses him of killing Saburo. Dex simply doesn't believe him. Sure, an option to go into a lengthy explanation of what went wrong would be more than welcome here, but even with elaboration, it seems obvious Dex has already made up his mind.
Personally, I don't think the truth matters to Dex at this point. The shit has hit the fan, and he's just trying to distance himself from it. That means silencing anyone who knows about his involvement. No matter who killed the emperor, he knows he's screwed unless he can put himself as far away as possible from it.
Dex doesn't give two shits wether or not you killed Saburo. He was just an idiot for dealing with Saka and trying to trade V off to Goro. All he had to do was go into hiding and leave town after he shot V
@@MistahJay7 I'm not thinking that was his choice at all. Odds are goro found him, put a gun to his head, and offered his life for Vs body, only he was lying, but dex was in no position to bargain...
I find it a bit funny how you don't understand Takeumuras motivations at the start of the game. He never believed Yorinibu at all. Infact NOBODY beleived him Goro was just bidding his time here still playing the part of the loyal henchmen but also going on about his own business going behind Yorinibus back. Yorinibu most likely eventually realised this and decided to get rid of the most loyal man to his father. It makes perfect sense and really isn't that hard to grasp what is going on....
Idk, Johnny's initial somewhat psychotic reaction to comprehending what his existence now is, the scene in V's apartment, makes complete sense if you can imagine what it would be like in his shoes, in his strange, limbo-esque predicament.
I still find it ridiculous how people don't get that. Johnny is a ghost who can only follow one man. He died 50 years ago and he's awake now That is a terrifying experie ce How is that so hard to understand
@@badfoody Nuance is difficult to implement, and not just because it takes careful writing, but because it often sails over people's heads. What's surprising is this element of the story isn't nuanced at all, so the fact that it's going over people's heads makes no sense. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
The reaction is completely character breaking to Johnny's personality who never really was a aggressive psycho, it's just a weird reaction that is supposed to make V dislike Johnny out of the bat cause they couldn't write anything better.
@@SkelterHelter You probably forgot what he did to media man in Arasaka Tower.... His last memory was from Arasaka Tower action and his first thought was that Arasaka is playing with him.
Love this video. Also to answer a question about Yorinobu... It's not explicitly mentioned in the ending, but throughout the game it's mentioned that there's a lot of internal feuding between the branches of Arasaka and Hanuko says something about Yorinobu launching a takeover. That military coup is what fucks up Arasaka in all the endings except the corpo one where Saburo does damage control and maintains Arasaka power. Admittedly that's one of the biggest flaws...if you don't know who Yorinobu is from the 2020 game, you probably won't understand what he's doing even when Hanuko explains it because his characterization in the game doesn't fit the "Corpo Background Johnny Silverhand," he was meant to be. All the same, I loved this video and the other two on your channel. I hope for more!
Yorinobu being a "Corpo background Johnny Silverhand" sounds interesting, but yeah, they didn't really manage to pull that of with the context provided in 2077. It's the issue of giving antagonists enough screen time to flesh them out. I tried to hunt down an explanation of his motivations online, but only found other people just as confused as I was.
@@drummerboy1779 It's pretty bad. I remember I didn't even register it was the same guy on my first run because Saburo has like 5 kids and that guy is nothing like Yorinobu in the 2020 game. He's the guy who founded the Steel Dragons in order to fight Arasaka. Basically he was the good guy trying to stop his evil father and undo the damage he had inflicted upon the world. I'm kinda sad we don't get that but glad the devs tried. I'm also mad we still don't have Morgan Blackhand. XD
You probably were already told but the joke at 2:58:27 is a reference to an episode in The Office where one of the characters brings a Japanese man who then explains that the previously mentioned character saved his life as he ran from the Yakuza, in broken English he explains his story that he was a great surgeon and was forced to save a Yakuza boss, but messed up and then came to America and was helped by Darryl, he then reveals that he killed the Yakuza boss and they he is world best surgeon, steady hand I did not have issues like you with the leveling system or that fight with panam, but I have had a bunch of non-game breaking glitches happen
You did some amazing job, choom. And endings, yeah, endings just made the whole game for me. It was like I'm doing some boring chores and then bang! things suddenly get serious.
Man they kinda missed a opportunity to lean in on the platonic relationships with the main characters. As a male V, being able to give Judy a hug after Ev's death, or shaking River's hand and him promising to be your bro through thick and thin after saving Randy's life. Little things that would have made those non romantic relationships all the better.
2:02:05 I think a big problem with "levelled areas" is the way games like Witcher 3 or Assassin's Creed Origins-Odyssey-Valhalla handle enemies. Enemy strength is not logical. You can have a Lvl.1 soldier or a Lvl.30 soldier and they look IDENTICAL. You can have a Lvl.5 cyclops or a Lvl.45 cyclops and they also look IDENTICAL. That's bad. Really bad. Gothic 1&2 did this right. Every green goblin in the game was Lvl.5. Every harpy was Lvl.18. Every troll was Lvl.50. That's how it should be done. You should be able to tell if you can tackle a certain location just by glancing at the enemies. Goblins? No problem, I can handle this. Orcs? Yeah, no. I can't go there yet. Yes, Gothic 1&2 had some enemy re-colours but those made sense, too. You instinctively know a black goblin is going to be a bit tougher than a green goblin. You also realise that an orc with proper metal armour is going to be a bit stronger than a quasi-naked orc. It's logical. Basically, Gothic 1&2 had GOOD level-gating.
That would certainly be less lazy than the Witcher 3's implementation. It's still worth questioning what the purpose of gating off generic content early on is.
Thoroughly excellent production. Congratulations on your effort. I seem to hold the soundtrack in higher regard than you do, and the parade was my favourite mission of the game because I believed the atmosphere did infect carry it through the lacklustre gameplay, but I found myself largely agreeing on everything else you’ve addressed. Top job.
I started listening to this video as I went to sleep but my insomnia struck and I ended up going through entirety of this review from the beggining to the end. Couple of points I wanted to add: 3:05:30 Agreeing to help Panam on her path of vengeance against Nash is not only there to get on her good side but also gives you the best car in the game for free. Making it the only reasonable choice. This quest alone also makes buying any vehicles in the game completely redundant. 3:24:10 Sandra's Dorsett sidequest (the information on the databank) is a part of a much bigger plot and is connected to the ''mysterious rogue AI'' and Mr. Blue Eyes. Same goes for many other quests, few examples that come to mind is Garry's sidequest about ''technomancers'' or Lizzy Wizzy showing clues of mind programming. She even talks to V about it, how she sometimes doesn't feel ''like herself'' when she wakes up in the morning. 3:27:52 This sidequest is a reference to the first ever released Cyberpunk 2077 trailer and it's sort of a fan service to those who remember it. The girl from the trailer that commited massacre, gets apprehended by NCPD special forces and she's forced to join them becoming one of the most prominent Max-Tac members herself. She's the same girl that enters the store after you neutralize the Cyberpsycho, she evens wears her iconic Mantis Blades from the trailer and has dialogue options about them. I think it's a really nice touch. As for the quest name - ''Bullets'', it's based on the track playing during the trailer which is Archive - Bullets. I highly recommend to see it, if you haven't. 4:32:50 Technically you can side with Saul during Avocado quest chain, I don't remember exactly at which point it was but I think once you start the quest to steal Basilisk from the Militech, you can go directly to Saul and inform him about Panam's plans. This path however is very underwhelming since you only get a car as a reward and nothing else. As a downside you lose access to entire Panam questline (including the Avocado ending) as well as having her as a romance option.
It took me 4 days to finish this but totally worth it, such an amazing breakdown that made me subscribe. Cant say I agree with all your points but it was still interesting to hear your reasoning and your point of view and loved all your comparison and extra information outside the game, really made the video more through. Great video!
I've never seen your videos before but just looking at the length, is this some kind of challenge to Mauler? :) Either way I look forward to watching this - as soon I finish playing the game. (currently 140 hours in and just completed the first 3 jobs in act 2)
I actually just started getting into Mauler's videos in the past few months, while I was in the process of wrapping up this video, but I'd be honored if he felt challenged by it.
I don’t think I necessarily agree with your point about the Arasaka heist having such glaring plot holes. It’s clearly implied that takemura doesn’t believe yorinobu, and likely knows the truth - but who is going to believe the word of a bodyguard vs the word of the CEO’s literal child - which is why we need to convince Hanako at Takemuras request - it’s clear he scans us while we’re hiding but is told to leave before he can do anything about us - he can pinpoint that we were there and knows we saw everything with that scan data. Even if things didn’t add up to the board - Arasaka can’t appear weak to the outside, especially Militech, and keeping Yorinobu in power while investigating made the most sense. Yorinobu knows Takemura knows this, which is why the assassins come after us once he pulls us from the garbage dump. It’s clear that night that one of them wasn’t leaving the hotel alive - and if Yorinobu had died nobody would have batted an eye, because Saburo has that power - but I also posit that the power within that family goes both ways. Infighting between groups inside of Mega Corporations isn’t new, and is literally the plot point of the Corpo prologue - and that’s also Arasaka. Scrolling a BD is also like recoding a video on your phone - anyone with optical implants can do it - but just because we always have our phone on us doesn’t mean we are always recording, right? Corporate espionage is common, but so are the most basic of implants - we repeatedly see that it’s how people In this world transmit money and answer their phone calls without needing to use any physical items. Konpeki plaza is still a hotel for the high life, it seems a bit hard/unreasonable that they’d ban the use of even basic implants because they’re scared of espionage - it’s not Arasaka HQ, it’s a hotel they happen to own.
There's also, in Arasaka, an unspoken corporate policy that "you keep what you kill" so likely some would even think if the old man was foolish enough to get himself assassinated, that's on him.
Never again will I accept a "thorough analysis" unless it is a quater of a day long! My God, I can only imagine what the export time and file size looked like!
1:20:37 sorry but nothing is more satisfying that ricocheting a bullet off the floor up into someone's chin, or off a wall to hit someone behind cover. More games need to adopt ricochet physics, because they're not only flexible with their practicality, but ultimately just make you feel like a badass gunslinger with those galaxy brain geometry moves.
Thank you for getting me through my uni finals with this video! I find it very difficult to concentrate without watching long videos about something I'm interested in in the background, and this was the perfect find. All that aside this is basically the magnum opus of CP77 critiques lol, I don't think there's much even left to say about the game after this 7 hour behemoth! Amazing dedication, I thoroughly enjoyed your analysis and your editing(how much time did you spend editing in avocados???), I hope you're rightfully proud of yourself :D
Wow, almost 7 hours, last time I watch something that long was Live aid in 1985. Great work! You have loads of good points, I do not agree with all of them but they make sense, and taste is different. You certainly have a really solid base for your critique, refreshing compared to the load of clickbait focused everything-wrong-with-CP2077 videos where most of the content is about bugs.
Nomad life path is by far the best of all. It introduce Jackie properly, it does make the efforts to show how the world works even in the more backwater parts of it... And it gives a little of characterization for both Jackie and V. They don't know each other, they are just doing a transaction, and don't fully trust each other and at the end Jackie really shows that he is a thug, but with a good heart, and see on V someone who he can rely on at the least when things get rough, and kept V around as a form to pay her his debt to her wich inevitably makes their friendship being born... Perhaps for this sole reason i was able to like so much of the game, its just a matter of tone. As for the corpo beginning, to my perspective, it feels awkward, because it doesn't give a context to the friendly behaviour of Jackie. The truth is Jackie is doing business with V, he is a guy from the streets and he doesn't need to act friendly towards a corpo, but at the same time he doesn't need to antagonize someone who will pay him tons of money for a job, in other words, Jackie isn't being friendly with V, but with V pockets... The real problem isn't the tone is the context. They could show a line of Jackie speaking with someone else showing disdain with V, but happy for the money. Now street kid really fkd up badly, they could literally start with V and Jackie already being established as old friends who grow up togheter in the streets giving a really deep connection with with one of the best characters in CP77. A total miss opportunity, and lack of foresight from the part of the writters. You are right about the not even a shitty explanation to not recording Saburo, and so much that i even switch to scanning mode if only for RP reasons, it was an immense plot whole. You are also right about V not telling Dex the truth that would most likely made him spare her life, if only to surrender her to Yoronobu in exchange of a reward, perhaps this was really the problem, the inevitable outcome wich would come with V telling the truth to Dex, but is also a incredible lost opportunity to expand the story with a more complex plot, Dex could promise V safety, but betray V for money leading her to that place to make the exchange with Arasaka. But you are also wrong about Takemura betrayal... Yoronobu, send the assassin's to deal with both V and Takemura, kill the witness and the most loyal servant of Saburo all at once Yoronobu knew that V and Jackie were gods given scapegoats, but scapegoats that shouldn't be ever allow to open their mouths. He also knew Takemura would do anything on his power to find the "killer" of his master and the one who sent him, wich would inevitably make the truth come out, of course all of this should be in the game, but is the real logical conclusion and the one that makes sense. Another point to explain why Saburo arrived there exactly when V is robbing the chip could might have been precisly a scheme of Saburo to draw his father to his place and kill him, but this more me filling the gaps in the story. Jhonny wasn't just been tortured, he was also used as a test subject for the relic experiment. Also it is explained in the game that nanites are re-writing V's brain, it may sound unethical, but Arasaka and Saburo aren't ethical at al. But again the game fails with the presentation and fail with exposition too. Why Victor knows so much about the biochip (maybe Takemura explained to him) but why not Takemura explained all by itself to V? Why isn't Takemura there when V regain her councious? This aren't plot wholes in the story, but CDPR waving away important information for the player. We need to fill the blanks all by ourselfs...
Going in I assumed Nomad would be the least developed since it's the one that doesn't really link to the Night City lifestyle too much, but you're right it ended up being the deepest weirdly enough. Also to explain Jackie's nice behavior to V in the Corpo lifepath, it's kinda said more later but in that lifepath V and Jackie have known each other since they were kids. V just went and joined the Corpo life but Jackie is still his friend.
That part about the corpo life path was similar to how I felt. I remember thinking, "Why the hell is this street punk talking to me? Is he my henchman?" The fact that I was going to pay him to carry out a hit only reinforce my thought. I only ever saw him as disposable, so when he died my only thought was "oh well."
I don't blame people because it's probably not conveyed the best and earliest, but the reason V and Jackie are so friendly in the corpo background is because the corpo background is more accurately "former street kid who got themselves a corpo job" and you and Jackie knew each other growing up (it's referenced directly a few times)
During the section about BDs, I shared your views on the shortcomings of how it was implemented in the game, but for me there is another GLARING issue. There is zero chance a "doll" with BD recording capability would be allowed anywhere near a high level executive from one of the major corporations, at least on company grounds. And since we've seen how cut-throat the corporate world is, you can bet none of the corpos would seek out someone who could end their career or pick up bits of information that could be used to blackmail them later, or gain information that could cost their company billions of eddies. "The Heist" would have been more believable if Evelyn already knew the location of the Relic, and just told V where it would be - without the whole BD rigmarole. The game would have been better without BD and the contrivances which surround it. In a realistic world, BD scanners would be prohibited everywhere Militech, Arasaka, Kang Tao, et al has a presence. The entrances would all have scanners like the one at Konpeki Plaza Hotel that flagged the Flathead, but they'd certainly also be able to pick up BD equipment. Corporate intelligence gathering (espionage) in the Cyberpunk genre is a huge deal - just look at the novels from William Gibson - and CDPR really missed the opportunity to handle the topic realistically. Since corporations are more powerful than governments in the Cyberpunk 2077 world, you can bet strict security would be company policy and entire departments would be n place to preclude loss of intellectual assets. It would not be an executive prerogative. Intelligence gathering is near and dear to me as my father was stationed to Field Station Berlin at Teufelsberg from 1963-1969 with military intelligence, and then another 20+ years stationed at Ft. Meade, Maryland with the National Security Agency. I still don't know exactly what he did for them, and never will, because he's good at keeping secrets. Edit: As a side note, even though I'm only 1 hour into your video, I'm enamored of your thoroughness, and look forward to enjoying the fruits of your hard work. I have "liked" it, and added it into my favorites, along with Manley Reviews "The bugs never mattered". I'm also clicking that subscribe button.
3:26:28 Exactly. If the world was actually full of NPCs to talk to and buildings you could enter and such, finding these things naturally would work. But the world is too big to walk, and if you did, you would spent 99.99% of your time bored out of your mind. Seems like they tried placing them around marked quest locations, but I did not even realize it was possible to find side jobs that were not marked on the map.
Thank you. You didn’t echo chamber my views of the game, but you gave me a deeper appreciation for what 2077 was trying to do. I enjoyed the game, but you made me have a greater appreciation for its flaws and success. Fuck, your video made me cry the same the Nomad ending made me cry. You deserve more subs, so have mine.
Real satisfied with the choice I made when I decided to look at another retrospective on Cyberpunk 2077. Plenty of hour long choices that could've been a waste of time, but thanks to being use to crazy long videos, I genuinely thought nearly 7 hours was solid for this game. Also, the title helped; don't always love videos trying to sell you on their idea instead presenting a board one. Thanks for that
Listened to this whole vid during my work shift, and probably will do it again tomorrow. I love these in-depth breakdowns so much because of how much time it allows a person to fully layout the roots of their thoughts and give a viewer a much more detailed dive into the reasons behind the opinion being presented. Between your critique and that of Luke Stephens, there is a lot of deeper consideration behind some of the implications of this story's design and execution, and I couldn't be happier to have those thoughts brought to mind. One point I almost thought you were going to bring up regarding the suicide ending, when you said there was a major flaw with it that you would bring up later, was the fact that the Relic resurrected V from a headshot once before already, and that short of shooting the chip itself that we have no reason (or lore-provided explanation) to believe that it wouldn't do so again. I stand by my opinion that it would have been more dramatic ending to have a zoom-out camera focus on V from behind with the city light silhouetting them in the chair and us watching him remove the Relic and going limp, with Johnny flickering a few times before disappearing.
That's an interesting idea about the relic reviving V after the suicide ending, though I suppose that someone could argue that V would intentionally shoot himself in his chip-slot to avoid that. NeverKnowsBest's Cyberpunk video is another that I thought was pretty well made. I'm currently working on a video on GTA3 that should be out sometime soon, so stay tuned for that.
"If ubisoft made this game they wouldn't care enough to make alternate dialog". They did in Far Cry 5. If you avoid helping the county jail, up until the quest you are forced to go there, there is an altered cutscene so that it accounts for the fact that you never went there before. Additionally, destroying the YES sign before or after John dies creates different dialog. This probably applies to the Father statue and Faith being dead or alive, but I cannot currently verify. There are also 3 different radio dialog options for the last standing Seed you haven't defeated yet, as well as the last herald's eulogy from Joseph being replaced by one where he is very mad. If you willingly go into Faith's hallucinations, there is different dialog.
This review is so much more entertaining than the game! Great work! I did everything wrong in the game that can be done wrong. And the game didn't give me any hint how to enjoy it more. - Never read any shart (when I want to read, I grab a book. Wasn't interesting anyway) - Focussed on melee and it sucked - Never went to an ripperdoc because I found the system to complicated (and I was able to complete missions whithout any modifications anyway. So why do those upgrates) - Never bought any vehicle, as they are not important in any missions anyway - Never did any sidequest (except killing pnk birds for Delamane) I played the game though in 18 hours. And never felt motivated to continue playing. Hated the 1st person view also, which works fine for FPS games like Metro Exodus. But for a RPG with character customization and lots of dialog and cut scenes, 3rd persion view would have been much much better. Hell - they didnt even bother to remove the mouse pointer mechanic for console players in the menu. One of the worst games I played in the last years.
Wow how can you not give a like to someone who spend the time to give you 7 hours of quality content! Keep it up my dude, I know you will be big one day because of the quality you bring with your work! Now I will spend a few evenings watching your video. Cheers!!
So they purposely cut the games story arc short as well as character introduction and in turn relationship building just because some people didn't finish the Witcher 3? That's like cooking a Michelin Star class meal and taking short cuts on ingredients because some people don't like the taste of Truffle oil and instead prefer Ketchup.
Damn that's a long ass video... 2 hours in and I haven't really disagreed much. I'm glad you got frustrated at some sections, because I honestly felt the same. Some people may be too toxic, but some cut too much slack to CDPR.
3:06 as a almost purely hacker, who gets pinned in a position you can not retreat out and also can not fight off very bullets, this was the worst part of the game for me as well, hands down. the second issue was that at my first playthrough, there was a bug that made my char spawn inside of Pams car, which was a clusterfuck to get out of. I played on PC, everything else was more or lese bug free, there were a few minor inconveniences, but nothing game breaking. Still annoying AF. I cant even count how many times I died in that spot. Just wanted to say, Saul= best Avocado boii.
3:11:34 idk I feel like the 'unnecessary dramatic tension' at least keeps what couldve been a boring cutscene at least entertaining and engaging. Seeing that javalin swoop up and come crashing down on top of the transport looks awesome.
One of my biggest pet peeves in open-world games is that EVERYTHING wants to kill you always. What I appreciated in Cyberpunk was you'd have to go out of your way to make trouble. There are times I want to move through the world without having to do zigzags to get from Point A to Point B.
It's probably a valid assumption that the mind altering technology that Night Corp was working on was the same as what was used on Peralez, but I didn't end up making that connection in this video.
Nicely down, this video was very well structured and broken down. It's very clear a lot of research went into it and while people can disagree with your conclusions; I think you presented your evidence and arguments in nicely structured ways.
The gig about saving the man in fridge who turns out to be a surgeon escaping the Tiger Claws is a reference to a joke from The Office(the U.S. version) just look up The Office Japanese surgeon and the monologues are identical.
Hey, I just wanted to say that IDK if they added it in a patch, but there is an active camo mod that you can find that will make you invisible for several seconds Here's the part that I'm talking about: 1:05:15 Great video so far!
Yeah, there's a lot of stuff they added in patches since I made this video, such as the ability to stealth takedown Cyberpsychos. That segment probably aged the worse.
Man. I don’t know how I’ve missed all of these 4+ hour critiques of games. 7 hours on Pokémon Ruby, 8 hours on Morrowind, 12 hours on Oblivion, and 7 hours on the Resident Evil franchise. I wish there was a comprehensive list of them somewhere or some way to search for them. I bet there are a ton of them out there that I’ll just never randomly stumble across and that makes me sad 😔
Yep, pretty stupid how YT (and Amazon and every other major site) have deliberately gone backwards in terms of filtering search results. A long time ago, you could actually sort videos by length, but now it's just "short" (20 minutes). Then it doesn't even put them in order of longest to shortest. Hmmm weird... Almost like they want you to sift through piles of garbage to find what you're looking for, because then maybe you'll get distracted and click on something else. And Amazon, search filters were actually useful once upon a time, but they have actively, intentionally destroyed them. Shit is infuriating, I hate what the internet has turned into.
@@neofromthewarnerbrothersic145 I totally agree. You would think they’d at least let you search for 1+ hour videos. Maxing out at 20 minutes is ridiculous. I think it’s probably a relic of a time when there was actually a maximum length of video that people could upload.
That's immaterial. In the suicide ending, both V and Johnny die. If they were to do nothing, only V would die, and Johnny would take over his body, just like when you choose to let Johnny take V's body in Mikoshi, but that option arbitrarily isn't even presented to the player.
Wow, hat off hermano, excellent job! My biggest issue storywise is pacing - that Johnny assault on AT should’ve been towards the end. I couldn’t shake off doom eternal vibes on my first play through. They don’t let you have fun in open world! When you want to get familiar with game and surrounding, the game fucking constantly yanking a chain pushing you towards narrative and exposition dumps. Also, because you know you gonna die in prologue, I genuinely couldn’t tell if my progress before the heist will count towards anything 🤷♂️ Messing with patch 1.5 now
Actually the fact that V’s actions are influenced by your previous choices in the game is not new, i remember that in The Walking Dead 400 days the decisions you made changed the subsequent choices of the protagonists.
3:22:57 I did this 6th Street shooting contest and won. The head guy says something like this don't make us friends (so we can feel no remorse for killing them in the blues). Then the guy on the left says, "Hey, I remember you. Gunned down our people!" (or something like this; at the start of the contest, he said he thinks he knows us from somewhere). Then all 30 of them start shooting at me simultaneously while I have their shit pistol equipped. Luckily jumped off the building and got down the street, then went through semi-stealth and mowed them all down and took what was rightfully mine (Divided We Stand SMG). This was kind of cool in retrospect, though frustrating at the time. The best part was the roleplaying afterwards. I decided we were at war. So, whenever I was in that part of town, I would scan for 6th Street members and gun them down. And there were a few gigs or blues where you could stealth or choose non-violence with 6th Street, but naturally took them all down instead. More of that would have been nice.
Holy shit! You out did other game reviewers not by stretch but a mile! I personally fell rabbit whole of CP2077 review videos by UA-camrs and pretty much all of them used same arguments which isn't bad in itself but over-repetitive is pain in the ass it is almost like they read same exact script.
Would love to see the same style comprehensive critique on Mass Effect trilogy or Witcher trilogy if you have the time. You seemed to enjoy Witcher 2 and it's plot duality so I would love to hear more from you in this regard.
I've only played the first two Mass Effect games. I liked the first one quite a bit, but found the second one a little disappointing. I recommend Joeseph Anderson's videos on the Witcher games (W1 video is 4 hours long, W2 video is 5 hours long, and the upcoming W3 video will apparently be around ten hours long). Since his videos are so comprehensive and I agree with most of what he says, I'm not likely to make a critique of them myself.
@@drummerboy1779 Fair enough. I have similar opinion when it comes to Mass Effect. I personally like the first one more (mainly because of the planet exploration aspect) but at the same time I don't think it is objectively better game than ME2 and it's DLC. They are fairly close though, and entire trilogy is my favorite overall even though ME3 had some hiccups with the controversial ending. As for the Witcher, I have watched Joseph Anderson's videos quite some time ago and it wasn't that compelling to be honest. It was basically stretched out commentary with a bit of critique at the end. I feel like your video had quite a bit more substance throughout. Looking forward to your future content.
This video is almost perfect I agree with almost everything you said, this game was close to being amazing but instead was just alright due to so many missed opportunities.
The worst thing about this review is the realization that it might be the last piece of content from you, because youtube obviously hates your hard work
Very encouraging comment
Unfortunately very true, last post was over a year ago. 😢
On a related note, this is the voice I imagine for the avatar of the devil. The pitch is somewhere between a castrati and a drunk rabbi, just nasal enough for you to need to pay attention to what is being said or it fades into the background as some kind of summoning ritual.
@@theafricanrhinoat first your comment sounded unhinged but it kinda makes sense or maybe I’m just unhinged too
I can't even fathom how good this video is...
But it gets 100 times better once Saul is there. Fantastic running gag.
Idk why you stopped making videos (prolly not worth the time invested right?) but fuck its good to see those kind of REAL in-depth videos once in a while.
Some UA-camrs try for YEARS and never make it. This guy gave up too soon which is a real shame, if he stuck with it who knows where he'd be now???
Watched this vid over 3 days. Nice job on not making it boring.
Thanks. I'm currently working on an RDR2 critique where I'm going to be going through every mission, and it's a similar challenge keeping that from becoming tedious as well.
@@drummerboy1779 You sure like to make things the hard way. But honestly, I appreciate the hard work. Wish you loafs of success. I am watching your vid on witcher 3 atm. I'm enjoying it. So you earned my sub. 😁. Won't watch the RDR2 vid as I haven't played the game and I'm avoiding spoilers. Will be waiting for the vid after that one then.
@@drummerboy1779 still waiting for it
@@drummerboy1779 red dead 2 is perfect. Please don’t rip it apart
I guess i never realized how quick the main quest lineis. Steal relic. Find evelyn. Find hellman. Find Alt. Kidnap Hanako. Meet Hanako at embers. Of course theres layers within, such as workong with Panaam or infiltrating arasaka park but damn its short. You can probably do the main story in 10 hours if you fast forward all the dialogue, walking and driving scenes
Saul as a companion is the best part of the game
Oh man, time to grab some chips and watch this
You'll need to grab something for dinner too, lol.
that's a whole lot of chips
At this point I’ve spent more time watching reviews than playing this game.
"Pacifica feels like cut content" but... It kinda *is* cut content, canonically
This is a GREAT video, so please don't take this next bit personally....
No one believed Yurinobo when he said Saburo was poisoned. There is even a scrap of dialog from Takemura where he askes "Poisoned?!" as though he is in complete disbelief. Just like was shown to us in the corpo life path, corpos are always killing each other to jockey for position. Takemura knows that defying Yurinobo in that moment would've (at best) lead to his death by Atom, or (at worst) the ENTIRE Arasaka security force coming down on him. When mixed with Takemura's sense of duty to his company, it makes perfect sense... Still, Yurinobo is a dumb shit if he thought that people would ACTUALLY believe him, but I feel that was intentional, too. Somewhat of an "eye roll" moment for the player to showcase Yurinobo's hot headed stupidity.
There's also dialogue from Hanako saying everyone on the board immediately knew it was a lie, but refused to speak up. Can't remember if it's part of the main story or only the optional "The Devil" ending.
Thank FUCKING you, cause I was literally seating here dumbfounded like "He doesn't know this isn't a plot hole does he?"
And the BD recording tech,if you speak to Evelyn when Judy hooks you up with the BD editor she clearly states she has it implanted,it's easy to infer it's because she's a Doll.
Not everyone wants what is essentially a 24-7 recording program in your head if you don't need it,let alone the complete breach of privacy it brings.
Last thing,V saying he told Jackie about the Afterlife being a morgue a long time ago as a Street kid is also not a plot hole because in all life paths have time skip section you can't play so obviously he could have told him that then
Absolute banger of a video, the youtube grind will be hard but cant wait to see you at the top one day.
I gotta say this was one of the most entertainingly edited long-form reviews I’ve had the pleasure of watching/listening to. From the flying Avocados to Companion Saul Saga to the sudden jump from the make-out with Kerry straight into the boat exploding nearly split my sides.
Great video man, your hard work is appreciated!
I can't believe i watched a 7 hour video and wasn't bored once. I am subbed now and look forward to whatever you make in the future. Great video man.
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"Yeah I'm ready for the 1 or 2 hours of vide... Holy shit it's seven hours"
1:43:55
"That wasn't us!"
V to dex when he accuses him of killing Saburo. Dex simply doesn't believe him. Sure, an option to go into a lengthy explanation of what went wrong would be more than welcome here, but even with elaboration, it seems obvious Dex has already made up his mind.
Personally, I don't think the truth matters to Dex at this point. The shit has hit the fan, and he's just trying to distance himself from it. That means silencing anyone who knows about his involvement. No matter who killed the emperor, he knows he's screwed unless he can put himself as far away as possible from it.
Dex doesn't give two shits wether or not you killed Saburo.
He was just an idiot for dealing with Saka and trying to trade V off to Goro. All he had to do was go into hiding and leave town after he shot V
@@MistahJay7 I'm not thinking that was his choice at all. Odds are goro found him, put a gun to his head, and offered his life for Vs body, only he was lying, but dex was in no position to bargain...
Just finished the whole thing, well worth the time. Great video man.
This was in my recommended.. happily impressed with this 🤘
OH MY GOD NOW I HAVE ENTERTAINMENT FOR THE WHOLE WEEK. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
I find it a bit funny how you don't understand Takeumuras motivations at the start of the game. He never believed Yorinibu at all. Infact NOBODY beleived him
Goro was just bidding his time here still playing the part of the loyal henchmen but also going on about his own business going behind Yorinibus back. Yorinibu most likely eventually realised this and decided to get rid of the most loyal man to his father. It makes perfect sense and really isn't that hard to grasp what is going on....
Idk, Johnny's initial somewhat psychotic reaction to comprehending what his existence now is, the scene in V's apartment, makes complete sense if you can imagine what it would be like in his shoes, in his strange, limbo-esque predicament.
I still find it ridiculous how people don't get that. Johnny is a ghost who can only follow one man. He died 50 years ago and he's awake now
That is a terrifying experie ce
How is that so hard to understand
@@badfoody Nuance is difficult to implement, and not just because it takes careful writing, but because it often sails over people's heads. What's surprising is this element of the story isn't nuanced at all, so the fact that it's going over people's heads makes no sense. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
The reaction is completely character breaking to Johnny's personality who never really was a aggressive psycho, it's just a weird reaction that is supposed to make V dislike Johnny out of the bat cause they couldn't write anything better.
@@SkelterHelter You probably forgot what he did to media man in Arasaka Tower.... His last memory was from Arasaka Tower action and his first thought was that Arasaka is playing with him.
The Saul jokes just don't get old, I love it!
Bro spent more time on this video than Cyberpunk devs on patches and DLCs
I hope somebody in cd project red watch this video to avoid future overhype
Love this video.
Also to answer a question about Yorinobu...
It's not explicitly mentioned in the ending, but throughout the game it's mentioned that there's a lot of internal feuding between the branches of Arasaka and Hanuko says something about Yorinobu launching a takeover. That military coup is what fucks up Arasaka in all the endings except the corpo one where Saburo does damage control and maintains Arasaka power. Admittedly that's one of the biggest flaws...if you don't know who Yorinobu is from the 2020 game, you probably won't understand what he's doing even when Hanuko explains it because his characterization in the game doesn't fit the "Corpo Background Johnny Silverhand," he was meant to be.
All the same, I loved this video and the other two on your channel. I hope for more!
Yorinobu being a "Corpo background Johnny Silverhand" sounds interesting, but yeah, they didn't really manage to pull that of with the context provided in 2077. It's the issue of giving antagonists enough screen time to flesh them out. I tried to hunt down an explanation of his motivations online, but only found other people just as confused as I was.
@@drummerboy1779 It's pretty bad. I remember I didn't even register it was the same guy on my first run because Saburo has like 5 kids and that guy is nothing like Yorinobu in the 2020 game. He's the guy who founded the Steel Dragons in order to fight Arasaka. Basically he was the good guy trying to stop his evil father and undo the damage he had inflicted upon the world. I'm kinda sad we don't get that but glad the devs tried. I'm also mad we still don't have Morgan Blackhand. XD
You probably were already told but the joke at 2:58:27 is a reference to an episode in The Office where one of the characters brings a Japanese man who then explains that the previously mentioned character saved his life as he ran from the Yakuza, in broken English he explains his story that he was a great surgeon and was forced to save a Yakuza boss, but messed up and then came to America and was helped by Darryl, he then reveals that he killed the Yakuza boss and they he is world best surgeon, steady hand
I did not have issues like you with the leveling system or that fight with panam, but I have had a bunch of non-game breaking glitches happen
You did some amazing job, choom.
And endings, yeah, endings just made the whole game for me. It was like I'm doing some boring chores and then bang! things suddenly get serious.
Man they kinda missed a opportunity to lean in on the platonic relationships with the main characters. As a male V, being able to give Judy a hug after Ev's death, or shaking River's hand and him promising to be your bro through thick and thin after saving Randy's life. Little things that would have made those non romantic relationships all the better.
REAL SHAME that this video does not have at least a million views you f****ing deserve it!
2:02:05 I think a big problem with "levelled areas" is the way games like Witcher 3 or Assassin's Creed Origins-Odyssey-Valhalla handle enemies. Enemy strength is not logical. You can have a Lvl.1 soldier or a Lvl.30 soldier and they look IDENTICAL. You can have a Lvl.5 cyclops or a Lvl.45 cyclops and they also look IDENTICAL. That's bad. Really bad.
Gothic 1&2 did this right. Every green goblin in the game was Lvl.5. Every harpy was Lvl.18. Every troll was Lvl.50. That's how it should be done. You should be able to tell if you can tackle a certain location just by glancing at the enemies. Goblins? No problem, I can handle this. Orcs? Yeah, no. I can't go there yet.
Yes, Gothic 1&2 had some enemy re-colours but those made sense, too. You instinctively know a black goblin is going to be a bit tougher than a green goblin. You also realise that an orc with proper metal armour is going to be a bit stronger than a quasi-naked orc. It's logical.
Basically, Gothic 1&2 had GOOD level-gating.
That would certainly be less lazy than the Witcher 3's implementation. It's still worth questioning what the purpose of gating off generic content early on is.
This was good! Thank you for the hard work and effort that went in to this!
Best critique of CP2077 on UA-cam
Love the effort and commitment to this video!!
Thoroughly excellent production. Congratulations on your effort. I seem to hold the soundtrack in higher regard than you do, and the parade was my favourite mission of the game because I believed the atmosphere did infect carry it through the lacklustre gameplay, but I found myself largely agreeing on everything else you’ve addressed. Top job.
Thanks, currently working on a similar video on GTA3.
You put so much effort into this. I salute you.
this video deserves more views
I also found the gigs very addictive, the drive here, kill everyone, loot repeat loop I loved it. I was so sad when I finished them all.
Gigs are good time, for sure for sure
The average ubisoft braindead design fan.
@@SkelterHelter Your life must be lonely.
I started listening to this video as I went to sleep but my insomnia struck and I ended up going through entirety of this review from the beggining to the end. Couple of points I wanted to add:
3:05:30 Agreeing to help Panam on her path of vengeance against Nash is not only there to get on her good side but also gives you the best car in the game for free. Making it the only reasonable choice. This quest alone also makes buying any vehicles in the game completely redundant.
3:24:10 Sandra's Dorsett sidequest (the information on the databank) is a part of a much bigger plot and is connected to the ''mysterious rogue AI'' and Mr. Blue Eyes. Same goes for many other quests, few examples that come to mind is Garry's sidequest about ''technomancers'' or Lizzy Wizzy showing clues of mind programming. She even talks to V about it, how she sometimes doesn't feel ''like herself'' when she wakes up in the morning.
3:27:52 This sidequest is a reference to the first ever released Cyberpunk 2077 trailer and it's sort of a fan service to those who remember it. The girl from the trailer that commited massacre, gets apprehended by NCPD special forces and she's forced to join them becoming one of the most prominent Max-Tac members herself. She's the same girl that enters the store after you neutralize the Cyberpsycho, she evens wears her iconic Mantis Blades from the trailer and has dialogue options about them. I think it's a really nice touch. As for the quest name - ''Bullets'', it's based on the track playing during the trailer which is Archive - Bullets. I highly recommend to see it, if you haven't.
4:32:50 Technically you can side with Saul during Avocado quest chain, I don't remember exactly at which point it was but I think once you start the quest to steal Basilisk from the Militech, you can go directly to Saul and inform him about Panam's plans. This path however is very underwhelming since you only get a car as a reward and nothing else. As a downside you lose access to entire Panam questline (including the Avocado ending) as well as having her as a romance option.
It took me 4 days to finish this but totally worth it, such an amazing breakdown that made me subscribe. Cant say I agree with all your points but it was still interesting to hear your reasoning and your point of view and loved all your comparison and extra information outside the game, really made the video more through. Great video!
What a nice buddy Saul is
I've never seen your videos before but just looking at the length, is this some kind of challenge to Mauler? :)
Either way I look forward to watching this - as soon I finish playing the game. (currently 140 hours in and just completed the first 3 jobs in act 2)
I actually just started getting into Mauler's videos in the past few months, while I was in the process of wrapping up this video, but I'd be honored if he felt challenged by it.
I don’t think I necessarily agree with your point about the Arasaka heist having such glaring plot holes. It’s clearly implied that takemura doesn’t believe yorinobu, and likely knows the truth - but who is going to believe the word of a bodyguard vs the word of the CEO’s literal child - which is why we need to convince Hanako at Takemuras request - it’s clear he scans us while we’re hiding but is told to leave before he can do anything about us - he can pinpoint that we were there and knows we saw everything with that scan data. Even if things didn’t add up to the board - Arasaka can’t appear weak to the outside, especially Militech, and keeping Yorinobu in power while investigating made the most sense. Yorinobu knows Takemura knows this, which is why the assassins come after us once he pulls us from the garbage dump.
It’s clear that night that one of them wasn’t leaving the hotel alive - and if Yorinobu had died nobody would have batted an eye, because Saburo has that power - but I also posit that the power within that family goes both ways. Infighting between groups inside of Mega Corporations isn’t new, and is literally the plot point of the Corpo prologue - and that’s also Arasaka.
Scrolling a BD is also like recoding a video on your phone - anyone with optical implants can do it - but just because we always have our phone on us doesn’t mean we are always recording, right? Corporate espionage is common, but so are the most basic of implants - we repeatedly see that it’s how people In this world transmit money and answer their phone calls without needing to use any physical items. Konpeki plaza is still a hotel for the high life, it seems a bit hard/unreasonable that they’d ban the use of even basic implants because they’re scared of espionage - it’s not Arasaka HQ, it’s a hotel they happen to own.
There's also, in Arasaka, an unspoken corporate policy that "you keep what you kill" so likely some would even think if the old man was foolish enough to get himself assassinated, that's on him.
Never again will I accept a "thorough analysis" unless it is a quater of a day long! My God, I can only imagine what the export time and file size looked like!
1:20:37 sorry but nothing is more satisfying that ricocheting a bullet off the floor up into someone's chin, or off a wall to hit someone behind cover. More games need to adopt ricochet physics, because they're not only flexible with their practicality, but ultimately just make you feel like a badass gunslinger with those galaxy brain geometry moves.
Thank you for getting me through my uni finals with this video! I find it very difficult to concentrate without watching long videos about something I'm interested in in the background, and this was the perfect find. All that aside this is basically the magnum opus of CP77 critiques lol, I don't think there's much even left to say about the game after this 7 hour behemoth! Amazing dedication, I thoroughly enjoyed your analysis and your editing(how much time did you spend editing in avocados???), I hope you're rightfully proud of yourself :D
Thanks, currently working on a similar video on GTA3 that should be released this week.
Holy fuck that drink section had me rolling.
I am near the 5h mark now and I am uncontrollably chuckling every time an avocado pops up
After 4 Hours i understand now why Saul is on the Thumbnail hahaha,
PS. What a fck... nice Video man, deserve Mio views, YT dosen't like good Videos
Thanks, currently working on a similar video on GTA3 that should be released this week.
Wow, almost 7 hours, last time I watch something that long was Live aid in 1985. Great work! You have loads of good points, I do not agree with all of them but they make sense, and taste is different. You certainly have a really solid base for your critique, refreshing compared to the load of clickbait focused everything-wrong-with-CP2077 videos where most of the content is about bugs.
Thanks, currently working on a similar video on GTA3.
@@drummerboy1779 Yes please, I want that video. Very nice video here. Keep it up.
Nomad life path is by far the best of all.
It introduce Jackie properly, it does make the efforts to show how the world works even in the more backwater parts of it...
And it gives a little of characterization for both Jackie and V.
They don't know each other, they are just doing a transaction, and don't fully trust each other and at the end Jackie really shows that he is a thug, but with a good heart, and see on V someone who he can rely on at the least when things get rough, and kept V around as a form to pay her his debt to her wich inevitably makes their friendship being born...
Perhaps for this sole reason i was able to like so much of the game, its just a matter of tone.
As for the corpo beginning, to my perspective, it feels awkward, because it doesn't give a context to the friendly behaviour of Jackie.
The truth is Jackie is doing business with V, he is a guy from the streets and he doesn't need to act friendly towards a corpo, but at the same time he doesn't need to antagonize someone who will pay him tons of money for a job, in other words, Jackie isn't being friendly with V, but with V pockets...
The real problem isn't the tone is the context.
They could show a line of Jackie speaking with someone else showing disdain with V, but happy for the money.
Now street kid really fkd up badly, they could literally start with V and Jackie already being established as old friends who grow up togheter in the streets giving a really deep connection with with one of the best characters in CP77.
A total miss opportunity, and lack of foresight from the part of the writters.
You are right about the not even a shitty explanation to not recording Saburo, and so much that i even switch to scanning mode if only for RP reasons, it was an immense plot whole.
You are also right about V not telling Dex the truth that would most likely made him spare her life, if only to surrender her to Yoronobu in exchange of a reward, perhaps this was really the problem, the inevitable outcome wich would come with V telling the truth to Dex, but is also a incredible lost opportunity to expand the story with a more complex plot, Dex could promise V safety, but betray V for money leading her to that place to make the exchange with Arasaka.
But you are also wrong about Takemura betrayal...
Yoronobu, send the assassin's to deal with both V and Takemura, kill the witness and the most loyal servant of Saburo all at once
Yoronobu knew that V and Jackie were gods given scapegoats, but scapegoats that shouldn't be ever allow to open their mouths.
He also knew Takemura would do anything on his power to find the "killer" of his master and the one who sent him, wich would inevitably make the truth come out, of course all of this should be in the game, but is the real logical conclusion and the one that makes sense.
Another point to explain why Saburo arrived there exactly when V is robbing the chip could might have been precisly a scheme of Saburo to draw his father to his place and kill him, but this more me filling the gaps in the story.
Jhonny wasn't just been tortured, he was also used as a test subject for the relic experiment.
Also it is explained in the game that nanites are re-writing V's brain, it may sound unethical, but Arasaka and Saburo aren't ethical at al.
But again the game fails with the presentation and fail with exposition too.
Why Victor knows so much about the biochip (maybe Takemura explained to him) but why not Takemura explained all by itself to V? Why isn't Takemura there when V regain her councious?
This aren't plot wholes in the story, but CDPR waving away important information for the player.
We need to fill the blanks all by ourselfs...
Going in I assumed Nomad would be the least developed since it's the one that doesn't really link to the Night City lifestyle too much, but you're right it ended up being the deepest weirdly enough. Also to explain Jackie's nice behavior to V in the Corpo lifepath, it's kinda said more later but in that lifepath V and Jackie have known each other since they were kids. V just went and joined the Corpo life but Jackie is still his friend.
That part about the corpo life path was similar to how I felt. I remember thinking, "Why the hell is this street punk talking to me? Is he my henchman?" The fact that I was going to pay him to carry out a hit only reinforce my thought. I only ever saw him as disposable, so when he died my only thought was "oh well."
I don't blame people because it's probably not conveyed the best and earliest, but the reason V and Jackie are so friendly in the corpo background is because the corpo background is more accurately "former street kid who got themselves a corpo job" and you and Jackie knew each other growing up (it's referenced directly a few times)
Starting this a little after the beginning of my shift at work. Hoping listening to this gets me thru most of it
This is really good, shame about the views though. You deserve more for the time and effort you put in
Thanks, currently working on a similar video on GTA3 that should be out in the next few weeks.
@@drummerboy1779 looking forward to it
Dang. Can't forget about Saul. Got me rollin'.
During the section about BDs, I shared your views on the shortcomings of how it was implemented in the game, but for me there is another GLARING issue. There is zero chance a "doll" with BD recording capability would be allowed anywhere near a high level executive from one of the major corporations, at least on company grounds. And since we've seen how cut-throat the corporate world is, you can bet none of the corpos would seek out someone who could end their career or pick up bits of information that could be used to blackmail them later, or gain information that could cost their company billions of eddies.
"The Heist" would have been more believable if Evelyn already knew the location of the Relic, and just told V where it would be - without the whole BD rigmarole. The game would have been better without BD and the contrivances which surround it.
In a realistic world, BD scanners would be prohibited everywhere Militech, Arasaka, Kang Tao, et al has a presence. The entrances would all have scanners like the one at Konpeki Plaza Hotel that flagged the Flathead, but they'd certainly also be able to pick up BD equipment.
Corporate intelligence gathering (espionage) in the Cyberpunk genre is a huge deal - just look at the novels from William Gibson - and CDPR really missed the opportunity to handle the topic realistically. Since corporations are more powerful than governments in the Cyberpunk 2077 world, you can bet strict security would be company policy and entire departments would be n place to preclude loss of intellectual assets. It would not be an executive prerogative.
Intelligence gathering is near and dear to me as my father was stationed to Field Station Berlin at Teufelsberg from 1963-1969 with military intelligence, and then another 20+ years stationed at Ft. Meade, Maryland with the National Security Agency. I still don't know exactly what he did for them, and never will, because he's good at keeping secrets.
Edit: As a side note, even though I'm only 1 hour into your video, I'm enamored of your thoroughness, and look forward to enjoying the fruits of your hard work. I have "liked" it, and added it into my favorites, along with Manley Reviews "The bugs never mattered". I'm also clicking that subscribe button.
3:26:28 Exactly. If the world was actually full of NPCs to talk to and buildings you could enter and such, finding these things naturally would work. But the world is too big to walk, and if you did, you would spent 99.99% of your time bored out of your mind. Seems like they tried placing them around marked quest locations, but I did not even realize it was possible to find side jobs that were not marked on the map.
2:58:23 yeah that’s a reference to the office
I disagree with 5-10% of the points made in the video but overall enjoyed it. Great work. Looking forward to part 2 taking a closer look at the gigs.
Thank you.
You didn’t echo chamber my views of the game, but you gave me a deeper appreciation for what 2077 was trying to do.
I enjoyed the game, but you made me have a greater appreciation for its flaws and success.
Fuck, your video made me cry the same the Nomad ending made me cry.
You deserve more subs, so have mine.
I'll be back. Say, why isn't it monetized?
This channel isn't big enough. Also, I don't want people to have to watch ads.
@@drummerboy1779 oh yeah
I’ve never watched a 6 hour video before with so much interest
Great vid dude. Look forward to see more from you
10/10 needs more views
Real satisfied with the choice I made when I decided to look at another retrospective on Cyberpunk 2077. Plenty of hour long choices that could've been a waste of time, but thanks to being use to crazy long videos, I genuinely thought nearly 7 hours was solid for this game.
Also, the title helped; don't always love videos trying to sell you on their idea instead presenting a board one. Thanks for that
Awesome video man, I really enjoyed it. You had me laughing so many times. I can't believe you had Saul ride with you all that time. HA!
Listened to this whole vid during my work shift, and probably will do it again tomorrow. I love these in-depth breakdowns so much because of how much time it allows a person to fully layout the roots of their thoughts and give a viewer a much more detailed dive into the reasons behind the opinion being presented. Between your critique and that of Luke Stephens, there is a lot of deeper consideration behind some of the implications of this story's design and execution, and I couldn't be happier to have those thoughts brought to mind.
One point I almost thought you were going to bring up regarding the suicide ending, when you said there was a major flaw with it that you would bring up later, was the fact that the Relic resurrected V from a headshot once before already, and that short of shooting the chip itself that we have no reason (or lore-provided explanation) to believe that it wouldn't do so again. I stand by my opinion that it would have been more dramatic ending to have a zoom-out camera focus on V from behind with the city light silhouetting them in the chair and us watching him remove the Relic and going limp, with Johnny flickering a few times before disappearing.
That's an interesting idea about the relic reviving V after the suicide ending, though I suppose that someone could argue that V would intentionally shoot himself in his chip-slot to avoid that. NeverKnowsBest's Cyberpunk video is another that I thought was pretty well made. I'm currently working on a video on GTA3 that should be out sometime soon, so stay tuned for that.
Took me a while to notice , but you can see Frank accompanying the Arasaka goons in the Corpo intro, very heavily suggesting that he backstabbed you
This is an amazing video! Definitely earned a sub!
Thanks, currently working on a similar video on GTA3 that should be out in the next few weeks.
@@drummerboy1779 Can't wait man! Hopefully it'll blow up with the release of the definitive edition.
I see 6 hours and I instantly sub.
Technically it's closer to seven.
I love your videos my friend, they're very entertaining and thorough
"If ubisoft made this game they wouldn't care enough to make alternate dialog".
They did in Far Cry 5.
If you avoid helping the county jail, up until the quest you are forced to go there, there is an altered cutscene so that it accounts for the fact that you never went there before.
Additionally, destroying the YES sign before or after John dies creates different dialog. This probably applies to the Father statue and Faith being dead or alive, but I cannot currently verify.
There are also 3 different radio dialog options for the last standing Seed you haven't defeated yet, as well as the last herald's eulogy from Joseph being replaced by one where he is very mad.
If you willingly go into Faith's hallucinations, there is different dialog.
This review is so much more entertaining than the game! Great work!
I did everything wrong in the game that can be done wrong. And the game didn't give me any hint how to enjoy it more.
- Never read any shart (when I want to read, I grab a book. Wasn't interesting anyway)
- Focussed on melee and it sucked
- Never went to an ripperdoc because I found the system to complicated (and I was able to complete missions whithout any modifications anyway. So why do those upgrates)
- Never bought any vehicle, as they are not important in any missions anyway
- Never did any sidequest (except killing pnk birds for Delamane)
I played the game though in 18 hours. And never felt motivated to continue playing. Hated the 1st person view also, which works fine for FPS games like Metro Exodus. But for a RPG with character customization and lots of dialog and cut scenes, 3rd persion view would have been much much better.
Hell - they didnt even bother to remove the mouse pointer mechanic for console players in the menu. One of the worst games I played in the last years.
This dude just edited 4 full length movies. Impressive video dude.
Wow how can you not give a like to someone who spend the time to give you 7 hours of quality content! Keep it up my dude, I know you will be big one day because of the quality you bring with your work! Now I will spend a few evenings watching your video. Cheers!!
So they purposely cut the games story arc short as well as character introduction and in turn relationship building just because some people didn't finish the Witcher 3?
That's like cooking a Michelin Star class meal and taking short cuts on ingredients because some people don't like the taste of Truffle oil and instead prefer Ketchup.
Yeah, that is not what really happened. This reviewer really missed the point in multiple places.
TBF truffle oil tastes like ass
Damn that's a long ass video... 2 hours in and I haven't really disagreed much. I'm glad you got frustrated at some sections, because I honestly felt the same. Some people may be too toxic, but some cut too much slack to CDPR.
love this game. and Great vídeo
3:06 as a almost purely hacker, who gets pinned in a position you can not retreat out and also can not fight off very bullets, this was the worst part of the game for me as well, hands down. the second issue was that at my first playthrough, there was a bug that made my char spawn inside of Pams car, which was a clusterfuck to get out of. I played on PC, everything else was more or lese bug free, there were a few minor inconveniences, but nothing game breaking. Still annoying AF. I cant even count how many times I died in that spot.
Just wanted to say, Saul= best Avocado boii.
3:11:34 idk I feel like the 'unnecessary dramatic tension' at least keeps what couldve been a boring cutscene at least entertaining and engaging. Seeing that javalin swoop up and come crashing down on top of the transport looks awesome.
One of my biggest pet peeves in open-world games is that EVERYTHING wants to kill you always. What I appreciated in Cyberpunk was you'd have to go out of your way to make trouble. There are times I want to move through the world without having to do zigzags to get from Point A to Point B.
03:24:35 I hope you go into this later. Sandra Dorsett’s NightCorp conspiracy stuff ties in with the mayor candidate Jefferson Peralez’s questline
It's probably a valid assumption that the mind altering technology that Night Corp was working on was the same as what was used on Peralez, but I didn't end up making that connection in this video.
Dude is like, "That's it!“. Has two hours left.
Also just checked your channel, you have only 3 other videos. You just kinda made this 6 hour video then pieced out I respect it
Nicely down, this video was very well structured and broken down. It's very clear a lot of research went into it and while people can disagree with your conclusions; I think you presented your evidence and arguments in nicely structured ways.
My man, how hard are you trying to hit that 10 minute mark?
The gig about saving the man in fridge who turns out to be a surgeon escaping the Tiger Claws is a reference to a joke from The Office(the U.S. version) just look up The Office Japanese surgeon and the monologues are identical.
90% of the time you mentioned "Stealth combat arena" All I can remember in each is me slicing up everyone in my path lol stealth
Hey, I just wanted to say that IDK if they added it in a patch, but there is an active camo mod that you can find that will make you invisible for several seconds
Here's the part that I'm talking about: 1:05:15
Great video so far!
Yeah, there's a lot of stuff they added in patches since I made this video, such as the ability to stealth takedown Cyberpsychos. That segment probably aged the worse.
Man. I don’t know how I’ve missed all of these 4+ hour critiques of games. 7 hours on Pokémon Ruby, 8 hours on Morrowind, 12 hours on Oblivion, and 7 hours on the Resident Evil franchise. I wish there was a comprehensive list of them somewhere or some way to search for them. I bet there are a ton of them out there that I’ll just never randomly stumble across and that makes me sad 😔
Yep, pretty stupid how YT (and Amazon and every other major site) have deliberately gone backwards in terms of filtering search results. A long time ago, you could actually sort videos by length, but now it's just "short" (20 minutes). Then it doesn't even put them in order of longest to shortest. Hmmm weird... Almost like they want you to sift through piles of garbage to find what you're looking for, because then maybe you'll get distracted and click on something else. And Amazon, search filters were actually useful once upon a time, but they have actively, intentionally destroyed them. Shit is infuriating, I hate what the internet has turned into.
@@neofromthewarnerbrothersic145 I totally agree. You would think they’d at least let you search for 1+ hour videos. Maxing out at 20 minutes is ridiculous. I think it’s probably a relic of a time when there was actually a maximum length of video that people could upload.
Look up a user called "Listonosh" and check his playlists
To all that it concerns...
-Kilroy was here
6:35:00 yeah but they didn’t know that v wasn’t gonna be able to survive after being placed back in his body before they went into mikoshi
That's immaterial. In the suicide ending, both V and Johnny die. If they were to do nothing, only V would die, and Johnny would take over his body, just like when you choose to let Johnny take V's body in Mikoshi, but that option arbitrarily isn't even presented to the player.
This was really well done. Thanks.
Wow, hat off hermano, excellent job!
My biggest issue storywise is pacing - that Johnny assault on AT should’ve been towards the end.
I couldn’t shake off doom eternal vibes on my first play through. They don’t let you have fun in open world! When you want to get familiar with game and surrounding, the game fucking constantly yanking a chain pushing you towards narrative and exposition dumps.
Also, because you know you gonna die in prologue, I genuinely couldn’t tell if my progress before the heist will count towards anything 🤷♂️
Messing with patch 1.5 now
Actually the fact that V’s actions are influenced by your previous choices in the game is not new, i remember that in The Walking Dead 400 days the decisions you made changed the subsequent choices of the protagonists.
3:22:57 I did this 6th Street shooting contest and won. The head guy says something like this don't make us friends (so we can feel no remorse for killing them in the blues). Then the guy on the left says, "Hey, I remember you. Gunned down our people!" (or something like this; at the start of the contest, he said he thinks he knows us from somewhere). Then all 30 of them start shooting at me simultaneously while I have their shit pistol equipped. Luckily jumped off the building and got down the street, then went through semi-stealth and mowed them all down and took what was rightfully mine (Divided We Stand SMG). This was kind of cool in retrospect, though frustrating at the time.
The best part was the roleplaying afterwards. I decided we were at war. So, whenever I was in that part of town, I would scan for 6th Street members and gun them down. And there were a few gigs or blues where you could stealth or choose non-violence with 6th Street, but naturally took them all down instead. More of that would have been nice.
Holy shit! You out did other game reviewers not by stretch but a mile! I personally fell rabbit whole of CP2077 review videos by UA-camrs and pretty much all of them used same arguments which isn't bad in itself but over-repetitive is pain in the ass it is almost like they read same exact script.
One of, if not the best critique I've ever watched.
Thanks, currently working on a similar video on GTA3 that should be out this week.
How come I never saw this in my feed smh imma watch it now
Lol, almost in time for my GTA 3 video.
@@drummerboy1779 lol
6 hours! wow this man was really inspired to do this.
Just finished the game, had to replay it to get another ending. Good video, Goodnight.
Would love to see the same style comprehensive critique on Mass Effect trilogy or Witcher trilogy if you have the time. You seemed to enjoy Witcher 2 and it's plot duality so I would love to hear more from you in this regard.
I've only played the first two Mass Effect games. I liked the first one quite a bit, but found the second one a little disappointing.
I recommend Joeseph Anderson's videos on the Witcher games (W1 video is 4 hours long, W2 video is 5 hours long, and the upcoming W3 video will apparently be around ten hours long). Since his videos are so comprehensive and I agree with most of what he says, I'm not likely to make a critique of them myself.
@@drummerboy1779 Fair enough. I have similar opinion when it comes to Mass Effect. I personally like the first one more (mainly because of the planet exploration aspect) but at the same time I don't think it is objectively better game than ME2 and it's DLC. They are fairly close though, and entire trilogy is my favorite overall even though ME3 had some hiccups with the controversial ending.
As for the Witcher, I have watched Joseph Anderson's videos quite some time ago and it wasn't that compelling to be honest. It was basically stretched out commentary with a bit of critique at the end. I feel like your video had quite a bit more substance throughout.
Looking forward to your future content.
This video is almost perfect I agree with almost everything you said, this game was close to being amazing but instead was just alright due to so many missed opportunities.
The big open world definitely wasn't worth it, they should've just copied the Deus Ex approach. Multiple, ultra-dense hub worlds.
Like GTA 3 and Vice City map loading.
Agreed, whats the point of an open map with nothing in it? Imo they should've waited for the sequel to do the open world justice.