I recently picked up the rincon 2s as they are on offer now, and I love how light and nimble they are. Stable underfoot, and like you say the only real issue is durability as the outsole already has cosmetic damage. But I’d rather have a few of these than a tank like shoe that I don’t enjoy running in. Then again I’m also a fan of the atreyu base model, which is also super light and bouncy, but the outsole wears as there is no rubber to be seen.
I just sent off for the Skechers Max Road 5. Their hyperburst materials has made them serious contenders in the shoe space. Now all the big names have found their own version. I just sent off for the Novablast 2.
Upside with these is a perfect excuse to get some new shoes after 200 miles of running. Quite versatile too with lightness, accommodating fit and decent amount of cushioned feel
As I typed in a response to another poster, I ran with the Rincon 1. Initially, I disliked them. They seemed stiff, unforgiving (I'm a somewhat heavier runner because I do it for boxing, not because it is my main sport). But then something clicked and I looovvveeedd them and took them to 200 miles, after which they suddenly became stiff and dead. Outsole was not too bad at this point. Anyway, it seems the Rincon 3s bring a different ride, and your video got me interested (I passed on the 2 because while I loved the OG version, I wanted to try something different and they seemed to bring nothing new). Your review got me excited, I love shoes that can be comfy on tired legs yet responsive/playful when you pick up the pace.
Heya Edd, great review. Just a small error at 9:23 when you mention price as 150 earth credits instead of 105 which you do a few seconds later. Keep up the great work !!
I find the way Hoka have the foam cupping the foot at the sides leads to blisters along the side of the foot. An absolutely massive blister in a pair of Clifton 3s doing the London marathon a few years back. As a heavier runner I'd definitely agree with you about wear, on the outsole as much as the foam.
Thanks for reviewing the Rincon 3! I have also purchased this and so far have put in 30 km. I love the midsole a lot! However I do have some arch problem with this one. The sensation goes away during a run, but yeah this is a little drawback. Still this is an awesome shoe for me! 😄
Sounds good! I really liked the ride of my Rincon 1 but a big issue was that it was too narrow. But this one now comes in a wide. As you said, we' ll see about the longevity of the midsole. Think I' ll await some long- term reviews
So glad I found your review! Someone gave me a recommendation for the clifton 8. (Usually a nike gal) More I've read up on the different Hoka's the Rincon seems like it would be better for me. Very small women, 4feer 9inches tall only 90lbs. I have the reacts right now. There ok, light enough, but I like the cush if the pegs, but feel just a tad heavy. I ordered the Rincon 3 today, same color black and white. Just looks good with everything.
Bro Edd, I'm not that heavy, 60kg but the Rincon 1 died on me around 180-200 miles and caused me shin splints twice. The upper and outsole were perfect (almost no wear for me) but the midsole.... I threw my pair in the bin and that was my 1st and last Hoka pair ever. End of my Hoka Love Story 😌.
Hey dude, surfs up bru!........Recommendation time...."Point Break" 1991 with Keanu, Swayze and Busey(?)......woh radical movie dude, its a stone cold classic, fantastic off the wall performances, superb story and pulse zapping action (plus Kathryn Bigelow Director is spot on).
If the EVA on the Rincon 3 is anything like the exposed EVA sole of the Mach 4, its longevity should be good. But true on the EVA use might come to an end for Hoka. I am beginning to feel bottoming after 500kms on the Mach 4, meanwhile I hit 850kms on the pebax foamed Saucony. But that weight on the Rincon 3 is so compelling, I might give it a whirl if you intend to do a long run review.
I was a huge rincon fan for v1, had 3 pairs….and 2 pairs of cliftons…. Good duo… but Now I’m a big fan of the Mach4, seems to be good for easy, long and moderate speed work down to about 10k pace… 5k and below I opt for a peddler addidas shoe either the sl20v1 or adios adizero 4ish. At 360ish mile on my Mach 4, and about to get into another heavy marathon training block so might switch them out to middle distance and below and roatate in a m4’s fresh pair for long runs just to be safe… I bet the foam will keep going to 450-500miles.
I think that the foam will be ok if used a bit more sparingly. If you smash it day in day out they may soon die, but they are exciting out the box. More so than the mach 4.
Great review as always. Totally agree with its versatility and crazy lightweight. Enjoying my pair at the moment. Impressed as it is my first experience with Hoka One One. I'm aware of the general feedback on the shorter midsole lifespan so I'll see about that. Just crossed the 60km mark with them currently.
I think upwards of 300miles is dangerous for any running shoe midsole. I know people take them to wild numbers but I can’t see how it can be a good thing.
@@EDDBUD so would you say that no shoe is perfect after this stage? And basically its mostly which shoe feels best for each of us rather than caring so much on how fast a shoe wears off ?
@@EDDBUD alright,hey EDDBUD which pair would you recommend me a beginner searching for the softest walking on clouds feeling shoes / for standing a lot of hours at my job + running ? Price about 100-150 max
My 1st rincon was good for about 5-6 miles then would get packed up..around 150 mi it seemed to go flat quickly and now I use it for a lawn mowing shoe..1 thing I have always appreciated the hoka outsole for is it's traction..it became my golf/cross country and dirt road shoe cos of its lite wt and traction ..I now use the RC elite v1 for those races..
As compelling as your video is, I think I will give this one a miss, already having the Liberate and Rebel 2 in my rotation. But of course, a very positive 50/100mile review may sway me to reconsider.
Maybe because I run with orthodics or maybe because I run pretty much only on road, but I get through shoes pretty quickly and don't think the Rincons would stand up for me.
Just purchased the Rincon 3,hopefully using them for the longer tempo runs,I wanted something light and not bad priced,these seem like the choice. Be interesting to see what sort of miles people get out them.
I’m also a lighter runner (67kg, 180cm) and find that the Hokas don’t bottom out that fast. Started becoming an issue at about 1200km for the Clifton 6 and 800km for the rincon 1 for me. So you might be on to something there! Definately picking up a pair of these, might go for the tropical/surfier colour scheme though 👍
Great review, I agree all the reviewers are concerned about the durability, so far I have version one and I am close to 200km with them, I think I can keep them until next year hoping version 4 has a different/better midsole? I use the Rincon for race day/faster paces workout/long run with faster paces. Glad they improved the outsole though.
Entertaining & informative as always bud🤗 missed the Rincon 1 as had to many shoes in my rotation but have used the Rincon 2 recently & they feel very dull now after 360 k’s love the bondi for slow stuff and carbon x for faster runs but these are not my cup of tea.
Interesting update to the Rincon2 but the durability issues are still here, as I can guess. Additionally, no question the midsole is going to be compressed pretty fast, max. 200+ miles! So, I am considering of buying again the Mach4, I got a pair, I've done 500km and they are still awesome, even the outsole wear is less than I expected!
my Rincon3 gonna arrive today. My last Hoka was Clifton6, last ran in Jan n have mileage 1200km (donated it to charity since its still decent for short distance n casual use). Im back to Hoka. Novablast1 just too heavy. The rubber pod outsole layout looks similar to clifton6. If I can get to 600km, thats good enough considering Rincon1/2 is notorios to die early
Got to be honest, a little disappointed you didn't plump for the really zazzy colourways on these, Edd. Rincon 3: I will be buying. Lighter than the 2 and greater longevity? SOLD!
Love my Rincon 3s, which I couldn’t say about previous versions. Foam is a bit softer and a hair bouncier, and for me it feels far more like my beloved Clifton 1 than any shoe - Clifton line or otherwise - Hoka have released since.
The Rincon 1 left me cold, initially, but then I started really loving them for some reason. They became suddenly dull after 200 miles (wear and tear wasn't too bad). I passed on the Rincon 2, because I didn't feel they brought anything different. Apparently from your experience, the ride of the 3 is different? How different did they feel to you? I might be interested hehe.
@@anthonymarconi761 The midsole feels noticeably softer and a little bouncier to me than the 1s and 2s, without losing the shoe’s versatility as an easy or tempo option. I think the change in foam composition, tweaked geometry and a bit of extra outsole rubber makes for a much smoother and more appealing ride.
@@flatfootedrunner thanks for your detailed answer, "soft" and "bouncy" are keywords that I like...dang, I need to find an excuse to buy another pair now 😅
@@anthonymarconi761 I know exactly what you mean - those words tick my boxes too. The RTR review is pretty spot on with my experience www.roadtrailrun.com/2021/07/hoka-one-one-rincon-multi-tester-review.html?m=1
On the original Rincon, I loved it. However, I was only able to get it up to 100 miles before the outsole was completely worn out. So it cost me a little over $1.00 per mile to run in. That's not very good for a daily trainer. Bypassed the Rincon 2 and picked up a pair of Saucony Endorphin Speeds. I have over 500 miles on my first pair of Speeds. Guess what, they are still good. Probably got another 100 miles in them at least. Though about trying the Rincon 3's out because of the added rubber, but I still have my doubts if it will last any longer than the original. I would rather spend a little bit more money and get a pair of the Endorphin Speed 2's/
I wouldn’t go for the 3 if your 1’s worn out that fast. I’m 800k on my 1’s and the outsole is still runnable. Different shoes work for different peeps I guess 🍻
Hey Eddbud. i enjoy watching your videos while i eat after my runs xD Question for you. I am training for the Houston Marathon. im between the Rincon 3 and the Clifton 8. Which one do you recommend? are there asics or new balance you recommend? I heard i might have to buy my daily run shoes and marathon day shoes but i am not too sure.
@@EDDBUD - Would be interested to hear their reasoning for this implementation. It actually cheapens the look of an otherwise nice looking running shoe imo. 🙄🤔
Got 230 miles out my Rincon 2 now there 💀 flat and the outsole looks like I ran on a cheese grater but there a great shoe IMO for 5k to half marathons even ran on grass and Sandy trails with them,mind you I could run in plimsoles and be fine lol 😂
I wish all brands would send two sets of laces in different lengths to accommodate our individual foot volumes, but laces aren’t a deal breaker for me since it’s cheap and easy to swap out for different ones. I didn’t like the Clifton either, for me it was too mushy. I wonder if they took something from the Mach4 to improve the EVA in the Rincon 3? Hopefully it won’t go dead as fast as it’s predecessors.
@@EDDBUD Even though Hoka is still using EVA they must be doing something different with it on the Mach4 (aside from the Profly sandwich) and Rincon 3.
Loved my Rincon 1s but the fact they’re so shredded after 200 miles makes them not worth it. However I got my Under Armour Machina to 500miles...built like a tank those things are!
@@EDDBUD need some way to explain to my wife why I keep buying so many shoes. 👟 Actually Rincon 2 is turning into my go to daily. Really love the low weight and cushion. Also somehow fits better than my other shoes. Still prefer Speed 2 for up-tempo and longer runs.
Hey Ed, Ever considered marking the shoes value in pounds per estimated miles, Hoka would probably come out pretty expensive. They dont last very long.
Hey Stefan. I think I placed it in one day many videos ago and it supplies some gravity and authenticity to proceedings. Those who protect us are the real world super heroes.
Dankeschön for the initial review, i loved version one and it made it to 760 km !! The Rincon1 and the Mach4 fit pefectly for me in Womens Size US8, so should i go on a 7.5?
You may be ok with your normal size. I fall into a uk 11 most of the time but some brands seem a little inconsistent. The 11 here is fine though thinner socks needed. 👍🏼
I tried on the original Rincon and desperately wanted a pair, they felt so light and nimble, but they were too narrow for my foot in the toe box. I think I might try a pair if the 3s. If they fit in the toe box I may consider buying a pair for my midweek runs, but that's a big if.
I subscribe to your channel because how soothing your voice is,that goes with your music added in your videos.. Currently using clifton 8 and mach 4, both loving it. Do you think Ed it's worthy to add this in my rotation? I normally do easy long runs most of the time and on the heavier side.i don't care about shoe durability, shoes are supposed to worn either way ☺️☺️
Great review, as always 👍 Here’s the question 🙋♂️ I have just picked up the Rincon 2’s on sale and debating if I could take it for the marathon race? Anyone had some experience over so many miles ?
Hey there which pair would you recommend me a beginner searching for the softest walking on clouds feeling shoes / for standing a lot of hours at my job + running ? Price about 100-150 max
Do not know how you could think that the midsole of the Clifton 8 is unforgiving....mine feel quite similar to the Novablast but with better stability and weight to cushion ratio. I am intrigued by the new Rincon 3 but suspect it is the same foam as the Clifton 8 (softer than the 7)....
@@EDDBUD Okay but the Clifton 8 is usually seen as a good improvement with a marshmallow midsole. It is widely seen as quite a lot better than the 7. I really like my pair. Have just sprinted down Abbey Road in them...
Hi. Did you weigh the shoes yourself? I've just bought a pair of them and in my US 10.5 (normal width) the right foot weighs 234g Heavier than I expected, a bit of disappointment cause it's advertised as super lightweight shoes. Left foot weight is reasonably at 224g though. This discrepancy also made me suspicious about Hoka's quality control.
@@EDDBUD would you remember if both sides were the same weight? Otherwise it's a sleeky and good trainer, I purchased it based on the reviews including yours, and don't regret it. Yeah, tongue and heel counter could be improved but they are acceptable. I found Hoka sizing guide a bit off for this model, ended up ordering half size larger and wasn't needed. I appreciate your review and thanks for sharing your thoughts!
Owned both Rincon 2 and clifton 8. Both gave me arch pinch on the right side of the foot. Mach 4 didn't but that shoe wasn't so much fun to run in. What do you reckon about this one and the arch pinch? 😊
It's not that they feel dead after 150 miles Edd....the literally fall apart with the outsole shredding!!!!! Won't be buying the 3 until I see reports from people over 200km that things are good...and by that time the pricing will have lowered further!
@@EDDBUD I'm 6'4" and 175 pounds / 12 1/2 stone / 80 kg.....that might classify me as a 'big boy'. Both my v1 and v2's ended early and badly...loved the shoe though. As you say in the video, it may just be my foot-strike. I'm thinking of getting a gate analysis done.
Meow! This cat has a question: Daily trainers are often criticized for weight or if an iteration gains weight. But can weight be a benefit? When race day comes, I pull out my light racing shoes such as the Endorphin Pro or Speed, or a non-plated shoe such my Skechers Razor 3+. Can training in a "heavy" shoe be like weight training? What are your thoughts?
@@EDDBUD Yes my peg 35 and 36’s lasted forever. Must be HOKA’s EVA that bottoms out fast because my other shoes with EVA go on and on. But I guess you sacrifice durability for light weight with EVA. HOKA should switch to PEBAX.🏃♂️🏃♂️🏃♂️
hi all, i am asking about the high arch of the Cliffton 8, my right foot went numb because of that shoe. Does the March 4 and Rincon 3 have the same high arch? i can't use the Cliffton 8 and will probably have to sell it off.
I had awful times in the Clifton 7 with that exact problem 13 miles into a long run! Ow! Not so prominent on the Rincon 3. Cant recall to much of an arch on the mach 4 either.
@@EDDBUD thanks for replying. i don't really run, i can't actually. i mostly brisk walk and slightly faster jog but can no longer run. Even on my walks my right foot hurts so bad, and on my second walk both went numb, and i only went for like 5.5km. hopefully i can sell my cliffton 8 and get a mach 4 as a replacement. i am coming from a saucony kinvara 11, that is the best shoe i ever used and still searching for a replacement for that. i used my kinvara 11 as an everyday shoe, because i don't like to wear slippers, sandals or flip flops. lmao..
I recently picked up the rincon 2s as they are on offer now, and I love how light and nimble they are. Stable underfoot, and like you say the only real issue is durability as the outsole already has cosmetic damage. But I’d rather have a few of these than a tank like shoe that I don’t enjoy running in. Then again I’m also a fan of the atreyu base model, which is also super light and bouncy, but the outsole wears as there is no rubber to be seen.
Looks like the Kofuzi colorway :-) great video as always Edd!
Ya, I actually liked the Clifton 7. But I just ended up reselling them. HyperBurst ended the Hoka purchases for me until Hoka upgrades the foam
I just sent off for the Skechers Max Road 5. Their hyperburst materials has made them serious contenders in the shoe space. Now all the big names have found their own version. I just sent off for the Novablast 2.
@@raysollarsthehappyjogger5907 noveb2 really nice the foam is the same as nb1 but the new cutout does give a better experience for me
Upside with these is a perfect excuse to get some new shoes after 200 miles of running. Quite versatile too with lightness, accommodating fit and decent amount of cushioned feel
Nice cushion out the box. Good price and something that can tick a box. Exciting shoe to run in to be sure.
As I typed in a response to another poster, I ran with the Rincon 1. Initially, I disliked them. They seemed stiff, unforgiving (I'm a somewhat heavier runner because I do it for boxing, not because it is my main sport). But then something clicked and I looovvveeedd them and took them to 200 miles, after which they suddenly became stiff and dead. Outsole was not too bad at this point. Anyway, it seems the Rincon 3s bring a different ride, and your video got me interested (I passed on the 2 because while I loved the OG version, I wanted to try something different and they seemed to bring nothing new). Your review got me excited, I love shoes that can be comfy on tired legs yet responsive/playful when you pick up the pace.
Heya Edd, great review. Just a small error at 9:23 when you mention price as 150 earth credits instead of 105 which you do a few seconds later. Keep up the great work !!
My bad, good spot and maximum points of paying attention :)
Great review, you may have flipped me back to the Dark Side. I cannot resist the pull of the Rincon 3. Great job ED! Thanks
I find the way Hoka have the foam cupping the foot at the sides leads to blisters along the side of the foot. An absolutely massive blister in a pair of Clifton 3s doing the London marathon a few years back. As a heavier runner I'd definitely agree with you about wear, on the outsole as much as the foam.
Had some arch rubbing in the clifton 7 last year, benched that shoe after that :)
Thanks for reviewing the Rincon 3! I have also purchased this and so far have put in 30 km. I love the midsole a lot! However I do have some arch problem with this one. The sensation goes away during a run, but yeah this is a little drawback. Still this is an awesome shoe for me! 😄
The addition of the red curtains at the end is a nice touch Edd, reminds me of days gone by! 👍🏻
Plan on running in my Rincon 3's and listening to some radical surf music...after some Stray Cats though! Cool vid as always. 😎👍
Sounds good! I really liked the ride of my Rincon 1 but a big issue was that it was too narrow. But this one now comes in a wide.
As you said, we' ll see about the longevity of the midsole. Think I' ll await some long- term reviews
It seems a little wider even in the standard fitting 👍🏼
So glad I found your review! Someone gave me a recommendation for the clifton 8. (Usually a nike gal) More I've read up on the different Hoka's the Rincon seems like it would be better for me. Very small women, 4feer 9inches tall only 90lbs. I have the reacts right now. There ok, light enough, but I like the cush if the pegs, but feel just a tad heavy. I ordered the Rincon 3 today, same color black and white. Just looks good with everything.
It’s a good all round type shoe for lots of workouts. Nice and light too
Bro Edd, I'm not that heavy, 60kg but the Rincon 1 died on me around 180-200 miles and caused me shin splints twice. The upper and outsole were perfect (almost no wear for me) but the midsole.... I threw my pair in the bin and that was my 1st and last Hoka pair ever. End of my Hoka Love Story 😌.
This is music to my ears, loved v1, v2 didn’t fit well and was frustrating…. You might of persuaded me to try this one! Great stuff as always mate 👏
It’s a fun ride mate. Just hope it holds up ok as you know these wear down quicker than an arsenal fans resolve. 🤣
@@EDDBUD 😂😂😂
Hey dude, surfs up bru!........Recommendation time...."Point Break" 1991 with Keanu, Swayze and Busey(?)......woh radical movie dude, its a stone cold classic, fantastic off the wall performances, superb story and pulse zapping action (plus Kathryn Bigelow Director is spot on).
I really love my cliftons! 😅 Am thinking of adding the rincon into my rotation 🙂 Still relatively new to Hoka's
These feel great early on
You will really enjoy the Rincons. I am a Clifton runner and felt the Rincon 2's were a great shoe.
If the EVA on the Rincon 3 is anything like the exposed EVA sole of the Mach 4, its longevity should be good. But true on the EVA use might come to an end for Hoka. I am beginning to feel bottoming after 500kms on the Mach 4, meanwhile I hit 850kms on the pebax foamed Saucony. But that weight on the Rincon 3 is so compelling, I might give it a whirl if you intend to do a long run review.
Mach 4 is a rubberized EVA on the outsole, not standard EVA like the Rincon and Clifton.
I was a huge rincon fan for v1, had 3 pairs….and 2 pairs of cliftons…. Good duo… but Now I’m a big fan of the Mach4, seems to be good for easy, long and moderate speed work down to about 10k pace… 5k and below I opt for a peddler addidas shoe either the sl20v1 or adios adizero 4ish. At 360ish mile on my Mach 4, and about to get into another heavy marathon training block so might switch them out to middle distance and below and roatate in a m4’s fresh pair for long runs just to be safe… I bet the foam will keep going to 450-500miles.
I think that the foam will be ok if used a bit more sparingly. If you smash it day in day out they may soon die, but they are exciting out the box. More so than the mach 4.
Love my Rincon 2’s. Once they die I’ll be upgrading to these.
How many miles do you have on them so far?
@@mintymus around 100 miles. The outsole is starting to show some wear and tear.
@@AndrewMosc Thanks! I love how they feel but hoping the bounce doesn't go away.
@@mintymus me too. I’m sold on them so will either get the 3 or try and find a 2 on sale.
Great review as always. Totally agree with its versatility and crazy lightweight. Enjoying my pair at the moment. Impressed as it is my first experience with Hoka One One. I'm aware of the general feedback on the shorter midsole lifespan so I'll see about that. Just crossed the 60km mark with them currently.
I think upwards of 300miles is dangerous for any running shoe midsole. I know people take them to wild numbers but I can’t see how it can be a good thing.
@@EDDBUD so would you say that no shoe is perfect after this stage? And basically its mostly which shoe feels best for each of us rather than caring so much on how fast a shoe wears off ?
@@georgejopanos763 Some things just work. Others seem to need a specific running style.
@@EDDBUD alright,hey EDDBUD which pair would you recommend me a beginner searching for the softest walking on clouds feeling shoes / for standing a lot of hours at my job + running ? Price about 100-150 max
These still haven't released in the USA. I'm patiently waiting. Great review as always
Thanks Kim! Still no release in the us? Really?! 🙁
@@EDDBUD yep, it was suppose to released on the first of the month
Great review Ed, clicked my basket earlier today for del Tuesday. Enjoyed the light and nibble v1&v2 so looking forward to this shoe.👍
The upper seems more refined than the v1. I can’t see why they won’t work for you 👍🏼
the pull tab it's a nice addition, for me :)
At least this one is thin and weightless 👍🏼
My 1st rincon was good for about 5-6 miles then would get packed up..around 150 mi it seemed to go flat quickly and now I use it for a lawn mowing shoe..1 thing I have always appreciated the hoka outsole for is it's traction..it became my golf/cross country and dirt road shoe cos of its lite wt and traction ..I now use the RC elite v1 for those races..
Lawn mowing requires a special type of upper and easy to clean outsole. 👍🏼
Russ Abbot, soft mints..this is good stuff...
Two of the best things in life. Thanks for tuning in 👍🏼
As compelling as your video is, I think I will give this one a miss, already having the Liberate and Rebel 2 in my rotation. But of course, a very positive 50/100mile review may sway me to reconsider.
With those 2 already in the rotation I think you have light and nimble covered. 👍🏼
Maybe because I run with orthodics or maybe because I run pretty much only on road, but I get through shoes pretty quickly and don't think the Rincons would stand up for me.
Just purchased the Rincon 3,hopefully using them for the longer tempo runs,I wanted something light and not bad priced,these seem like the choice.
Be interesting to see what sort of miles people get out them.
Fun and well cushioned shoe for the cash.
I’m also a lighter runner (67kg, 180cm) and find that the Hokas don’t bottom out that fast. Started becoming an issue at about 1200km for the Clifton 6 and 800km for the rincon 1 for me. So you might be on to something there!
Definately picking up a pair of these, might go for the tropical/surfier colour scheme though 👍
Yeah same here. They don’t look great underfoot but haven’t compressed much for me either.
Great review, I agree all the reviewers are concerned about the durability, so far I have version one and I am close to 200km with them, I think I can keep them until next year hoping version 4 has a different/better midsole?
I use the Rincon for race day/faster paces workout/long run with faster paces.
Glad they improved the outsole though.
Entertaining & informative as always bud🤗 missed the Rincon 1 as had to many shoes in my rotation but have used the Rincon 2 recently & they feel very dull now after 360 k’s love the bondi for slow stuff and carbon x for faster runs but these are not my cup of tea.
Interesting update to the Rincon2 but the durability issues are still here, as I can guess. Additionally, no question the midsole is going to be compressed pretty fast, max. 200+ miles! So, I am considering of buying again the Mach4, I got a pair, I've done 500km and they are still awesome, even the outsole wear is less than I expected!
Yes the Mach 4 seems the next rung up in terms of quality.
I’ve almost no internet on holiday but managed to get this to play 😁
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My family is from Rincon, PR! I might get these just fort that reason!
Famous for the surf, sounds like a cool place
Really liked the Rincon 2. Only problem was that my big toe rubbed on the ridge between upper and midsole. Perhaps too narrow for me.
Is a bit narrower and very different upper fit to other Hoka shoes.
my Rincon3 gonna arrive today.
My last Hoka was Clifton6, last ran in Jan n have mileage 1200km (donated it to charity since its still decent for short distance n casual use).
Im back to Hoka. Novablast1 just too heavy.
The rubber pod outsole layout looks similar to clifton6. If I can get to 600km, thats good enough considering Rincon1/2 is notorios to die early
Noticeably lighter on foot than the NB2.
Just bought tonight. I’m heavier dude. Ill let you know.
I found them a bit clumsy when I turned around during a trial in shop. No problems for straight lines.
Got to be honest, a little disappointed you didn't plump for the really zazzy colourways on these, Edd. Rincon 3: I will be buying. Lighter than the 2 and greater longevity? SOLD!
No orange available sadly!
@@EDDBUD ah gutted! The pink colourway doesn't go up to a size 12, either.
Love my Rincon 3s, which I couldn’t say about previous versions. Foam is a bit softer and a hair bouncier, and for me it feels far more like my beloved Clifton 1 than any shoe - Clifton line or otherwise - Hoka have released since.
The Rincon 1 left me cold, initially, but then I started really loving them for some reason. They became suddenly dull after 200 miles (wear and tear wasn't too bad). I passed on the Rincon 2, because I didn't feel they brought anything different. Apparently from your experience, the ride of the 3 is different? How different did they feel to you? I might be interested hehe.
@@anthonymarconi761 The midsole feels noticeably softer and a little bouncier to me than the 1s and 2s, without losing the shoe’s versatility as an easy or tempo option. I think the change in foam composition, tweaked geometry and a bit of extra outsole rubber makes for a much smoother and more appealing ride.
@@flatfootedrunner thanks for your detailed answer, "soft" and "bouncy" are keywords that I like...dang, I need to find an excuse to buy another pair now 😅
@@anthonymarconi761 I know exactly what you mean - those words tick my boxes too. The RTR review is pretty spot on with my experience www.roadtrailrun.com/2021/07/hoka-one-one-rincon-multi-tester-review.html?m=1
@@flatfootedrunner thanks again, I'm going to enjoy reading that. Have a great day!
On the original Rincon, I loved it. However, I was only able to get it up to 100 miles before the outsole was completely worn out. So it cost me a little over $1.00 per mile to run in. That's not very good for a daily trainer. Bypassed the Rincon 2 and picked up a pair of Saucony Endorphin Speeds. I have over 500 miles on my first pair of Speeds. Guess what, they are still good. Probably got another 100 miles in them at least. Though about trying the Rincon 3's out because of the added rubber, but I still have my doubts if it will last any longer than the original. I would rather spend a little bit more money and get a pair of the Endorphin Speed 2's/
I wouldn’t go for the 3 if your 1’s worn out that fast. I’m 800k on my 1’s and the outsole is still runnable. Different shoes work for different peeps I guess 🍻
Hey Eddbud. i enjoy watching your videos while i eat after my runs xD Question for you. I am training for the Houston Marathon. im between the Rincon 3 and the Clifton 8. Which one do you recommend? are there asics or new balance you recommend? I heard i might have to buy my daily run shoes and marathon day shoes but i am not too sure.
For marathon training maybe the invincible or more 4 is apparently very good. For daily stuff check the reebok energy 4 or Symmetros 2.
🤣 I love that they put that bit of string on the back for you.
I think they are goading me. 🤣
@@EDDBUD - Would be interested to hear their reasoning for this implementation. It actually cheapens the look of an otherwise nice looking running shoe imo. 🙄🤔
Got 230 miles out my Rincon 2 now there 💀 flat and the outsole looks like I ran on a cheese grater but there a great shoe IMO for 5k to half marathons even ran on grass and Sandy trails with them,mind you I could run in plimsoles and be fine lol 😂
Just got myself a pair in the sales £69.99!
Great bargain Stu
Edd Employee of the month Bud! 😉👊🏻
Employee of the month at Eddbud running shoe reviews for 24 months in a row now. 🤣
@@EDDBUD Yes, you’ve crushed the competition! 💪🏻
I think the outsole is fine. It looks the same as the Rincon 2 which I got 1250 miles out of…and I’ve just bought two more pairs of!
Want to try these but the Womens version is not available in the Netherlands 😡. Nice review!
I wish all brands would send two sets of laces in different lengths to accommodate our individual foot volumes, but laces aren’t a deal breaker for me since it’s cheap and easy to swap out for different ones. I didn’t like the Clifton either, for me it was too mushy. I wonder if they took something from the Mach4 to improve the EVA in the Rincon 3? Hopefully it won’t go dead as fast as it’s predecessors.
A superb idea Martha. This new rincon is really lovely to run in. I have too many good daily shoes right now! Last year was slim pickings!
@@EDDBUD Even though Hoka is still using EVA they must be doing something different with it on the Mach4 (aside from the Profly sandwich) and Rincon 3.
Loved my Rincon 1s but the fact they’re so shredded after 200 miles makes them not worth it. However I got my Under Armour Machina to 500miles...built like a tank those things are!
The under armour stuff is very durable it has to be said.
@@EDDBUD Talking of which, wore my Endorphin Speed for a 67mile Ultra the other week. Performed admirably.
Nice review. Low durability is a plus for me as I have an excuse to buy new shoes 😊
First time I have heard this as an excuse! 😊
Someone think of the environment! 😉
But seriously, it’s a shame they don’t use recycled materials on this one, Hoka do so on so many other shoes.
@@414peps not to mention all the extra co2 us runners expell😉
@@EDDBUD need some way to explain to my wife why I keep buying so many shoes. 👟
Actually Rincon 2 is turning into my go to daily. Really love the low weight and cushion. Also somehow fits better than my other shoes.
Still prefer Speed 2 for up-tempo and longer runs.
Hey Ed, Ever considered marking the shoes value in pounds per estimated miles, Hoka would probably come out pretty expensive. They dont last very long.
Thats a rather good idea! :)
I keep meaning to ask - as a former US Navy musician (6 years as a drummer/band leader/arranger) I love the outro music. Why do you use that tune?
Hey Stefan. I think I placed it in one day many videos ago and it supplies some gravity and authenticity to proceedings. Those who protect us are the real world super heroes.
Dankeschön for the initial review, i loved version one and it made it to 760 km !! The Rincon1 and the Mach4 fit pefectly for me in Womens Size US8, so should i go on a 7.5?
You may be ok with your normal size. I fall into a uk 11 most of the time but some brands seem a little inconsistent. The 11 here is fine though thinner socks needed. 👍🏼
That 150 miles durability is a good excuse to get these and justify buying a new pair of shoes afterwards 😁
TOTAL MADNESS
EVERY 6 MONTHS WE AHAVE A NEW MPDEL.TILL2025 THERE WILL BE RINCON 80 MODEL!!!!!
I loved the Rincon 1s but I recently purchased the Puma Liberate Nitro so these will be Nay for me at the moment.
I tried on the original Rincon and desperately wanted a pair, they felt so light and nimble, but they were too narrow for my foot in the toe box. I think I might try a pair if the 3s. If they fit in the toe box I may consider buying a pair for my midweek runs, but that's a big if.
I subscribe to your channel because how soothing your voice is,that goes with your music added in your videos..
Currently using clifton 8 and mach 4, both loving it. Do you think Ed it's worthy to add this in my rotation? I normally do easy long runs most of the time and on the heavier side.i don't care about shoe durability, shoes are supposed to worn either way ☺️☺️
10:51 depressing music mate... good review, though!
Interested to see how they hold up- could be a left field alternative to the triumph 19 as my easier run shoe in my rotation
Will be like a feather to the triumph. Not sure it will have the long term durability of the Saucony but I have high hopes for it.
@@EDDBUD Being a Clydesdale I go thru shoes quick anyway , and just want a longer run option to protect the feet
I simply love the Clifton 7's.
Are the 8's really that different in the midsole ?
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Great review, as always 👍
Here’s the question 🙋♂️ I have just picked up the Rincon 2’s on sale and debating if I could take it for the marathon race? Anyone had some experience over so many miles ?
whats the hoka on the right side in the background the back. the black model
Think that was the mach 4
Hey there which pair would you recommend me a beginner searching for the softest walking on clouds feeling shoes / for standing a lot of hours at my job + running ? Price about 100-150 max
Invincible run 2 for sure!
Do not know how you could think that the midsole of the Clifton 8 is unforgiving....mine feel quite similar to the Novablast but with better stability and weight to cushion ratio. I am intrigued by the new Rincon 3 but suspect it is the same foam as the Clifton 8 (softer than the 7)....
The Clifton 7 was really mediocre to me. Upper was clunky and nothing special. Like these though.
@@EDDBUD Okay but the Clifton 8 is usually seen as a good improvement with a marshmallow midsole. It is widely seen as quite a lot better than the 7. I really like my pair. Have just sprinted down Abbey Road in them...
@@danielmoore9214 Shant go back to the Clifton till the 9. Nothing for me in that shoe. 👍🏼
@@EDDBUD I hear you dude...
Hi. Did you weigh the shoes yourself? I've just bought a pair of them and in my US 10.5 (normal width) the right foot weighs 234g Heavier than I expected, a bit of disappointment cause it's advertised as super lightweight shoes. Left foot weight is reasonably at 224g though. This discrepancy also made me suspicious about Hoka's quality control.
Yes I used some scales.
@@EDDBUD would you remember if both sides were the same weight? Otherwise it's a sleeky and good trainer, I purchased it based on the reviews including yours, and don't regret it. Yeah, tongue and heel counter could be improved but they are acceptable. I found Hoka sizing guide a bit off for this model, ended up ordering half size larger and wasn't needed. I appreciate your review and thanks for sharing your thoughts!
@@viniciusely6960 always a bit of production tolerance. Normally about 5 or 6g in most shoes between the left and right.
Owned both Rincon 2 and clifton 8. Both gave me arch pinch on the right side of the foot. Mach 4 didn't but that shoe wasn't so much fun to run in. What do you reckon about this one and the arch pinch? 😊
Hoka ed!
Just off podium. :)
It's not that they feel dead after 150 miles Edd....the literally fall apart with the outsole shredding!!!!! Won't be buying the 3 until I see reports from people over 200km that things are good...and by that time the pricing will have lowered further!
My v1 didn’t look all that bad. Will see how they go. 👍🏼
@@EDDBUD I'm 6'4" and 175 pounds / 12 1/2 stone / 80 kg.....that might classify me as a 'big boy'. Both my v1 and v2's ended early and badly...loved the shoe though. As you say in the video, it may just be my foot-strike. I'm thinking of getting a gate analysis done.
Meow! This cat has a question: Daily trainers are often criticized for weight or if an iteration gains weight. But can weight be a benefit? When race day comes, I pull out my light racing shoes such as the Endorphin Pro or Speed, or a non-plated shoe such my Skechers Razor 3+. Can training in a "heavy" shoe be like weight training? What are your thoughts?
Some shoes seem heavy and are not. Other are dense and take away any enjoyment from running which for me defies the whole point of it!
@@EDDBUD Yes, light and peppy daily trainers are fun! My current favorite is my Mach 4.
I moved from HOKA EVA to New Balance Rebel V2.. EVA is old news..
I think its the last set of shoes with this stuff.
For that price if you get 200 miles seems like a good value these days.🤷♂️🏃♂️😳
Yes it seems the case. Though the Pegasus etc last longer and people complain of the weight. 🤦🏻♂️😊
@@EDDBUD Yes my peg 35 and 36’s lasted forever. Must be HOKA’s EVA that bottoms out fast because my other shoes with EVA go on and on. But I guess you sacrifice durability for light weight with EVA. HOKA should switch to PEBAX.🏃♂️🏃♂️🏃♂️
For Half Marathon training, would you suggest the Rincon 3 or the Endorphin Speed at at a discounted $120?
Speed is a more versatile shoe in my opinion 👍🏼
@@EDDBUD Thank you Edd.
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hi all, i am asking about the high arch of the Cliffton 8, my right foot went numb because of that shoe. Does the March 4 and Rincon 3 have the same high arch? i can't use the Cliffton 8 and will probably have to sell it off.
I had awful times in the Clifton 7 with that exact problem 13 miles into a long run! Ow!
Not so prominent on the Rincon 3. Cant recall to much of an arch on the mach 4 either.
@@EDDBUD thanks for replying. i don't really run, i can't actually. i mostly brisk walk and slightly faster jog but can no longer run. Even on my walks my right foot hurts so bad, and on my second walk both went numb, and i only went for like 5.5km. hopefully i can sell my cliffton 8 and get a mach 4 as a replacement. i am coming from a saucony kinvara 11, that is the best shoe i ever used and still searching for a replacement for that. i used my kinvara 11 as an everyday shoe, because i don't like to wear slippers, sandals or flip flops. lmao..
Great shoe, but durability is abysmal. Can't afford to keep replacing this shoe every 250 miles.
Yeah it’s not going to last much beyond that
Chaffed my arch 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Ouch, Howz the chaffed Ar......ch today?
Could one run a half marathon in these? What would you say is the best distance to run in them?
I don’t see why not. Long run coming soon to test my theory!
@@EDDBUD cheers Mr Bud
I ran a half marathon in the first version also the third version has more rubber on the forefoot vs the previous ones.
The Rincons look like Hoka just change the number and release it again. Job done.
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So is the midsole foam different than the rincon v1 & 2?
Not sure. Seems a little more squashy than the v1 was.
Would you say it is a more lively midsole then the mach 4?
To me yes. The Mach 4 was an odd one. Something and nothing.
@@EDDBUD Exactly, I never got the grips with it. So many like it, I guess it is a mater of "foot taste"... lol
Disappointed Rincon 2