Top Secret Processes To Handle Maximum Horsepower!
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After my own journey into making engine blocks and what it took to finally succeed, I have huge respect for the people who make it happen for the NHRA's best Top Fuel and Funny Car teams! These nitro engines have to withstand huge amounts of horsepower and there are no corners cut to make a piece of billet aluminum as strong as possible. Enjoy this tour of the amazing Point One facility in Missouri! While they build engine blocks, it's actually fasteners these guys love to make. If you're an engine nerd you'll love this behind the scenes look.
Here are some words we like, but you don't have to read them. We love drag racing, we enjoy watching Street Outlaws (including Farm Truck, Murder Nova and Big Chief), we bring Sick Week to you each and every year, and we can't wait until the next Hot Rod Drag Week (which has been won by Jeff Lutz and Larry Larson). Sick Seconds is the world's quickest street car and we always look forward to racing with our friends including Cleetus McFarland, Steve Morris and Vice Grip Garage. Sometimes we like to go to the drag strip to watch Top Fuel dragsters or Funny Cars - even Pro Mods. Turbocharged LS1, LS2 and LS3 motors produce a lot of horsepower, especially in Corvettes and Camaros. So do Coyote engines in Ford Mustangs.
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Heat treatment in-house. A metallurgical testing lab. thats top notch quality control. Vibratory stress relief.. top fuel funny cars, great episode. MADE IN AMERICA
Indeed! Fascinating to see what is done at the top end of the spectrum.
When you’re sitting in the stands watching nitro cars shake the ground at 300+mph you don’t realize just how much economic activity is required to accomplish that. Here’s a peek into a factory that makes blocks for those engines. The expensive machinery required, the jobs created to make them and the jobs created to run them.
And some want to tax " rich " people into oblivion causing these workers to lose their jobs. . .
Thank god jb is tired of poor people paying tax for rich people.
dt says hot rods should be banned. HE should be banned!
@bobroberts2371 the have nots think tax is somehow fairness. They are not thinking about how money is used.
Haven't seen a manufacturer this thorough in ages. Believe it or not quality matters!
Thank you so much for mentioning about NOT putting fastener lube on the bottom of the washer. So many “engine builders” say it doesn’t matter.
Man I love to see American manufacturing.
Finally some clear cut guidelines on the proper torque process.
Yup, very good advice and knowlege sharing. Hats off to these guys.
I'm a sucker for a good tour of how some of the big boys manufacture things and this was no disappointment. I loved the fact that they kept a good majority of the manufacturing in house. Quality is everything. It's refreshing to see some people still like making it here in the usa to keep quality up and not get to focused in profits like many vendors are doing now. The way he explained how important lubricating was with fastening was eye opening. I'll be lubricating my head studs and washers and nuts as they recommend from now on.
You have to focus on profits or you won't be a business.
Thanks Tom! I learned some things today!
Love videos like this. Been working in the machine industry for decades and the technology still amazes me 💪
Steve Morris recently aired a few episodes on assembling and dyno tuning a very special Hemi. The owner had every external part anidized. Steve had all sorts of electrical issues. Finally tracked down to the anodize coating provides very poor electrical conductivity. They had to grind thru that beautiful coating at every single electrical connection on the engine.
BTW: My brother managed a big aluminum anodizing facility for many years. He said “hard anodizing” really refers to the thickness of the anodize coating. (Same with thing for hard chrome vs. show chrome. It’s the thickness of the chrome layer. Chrome all has the same hardness.
BTW2: My brother’s plant had large anodizing tanks to treat 12 foot architectural panels and 30’ light poles like you see in a parking lot. They used to get small jobs in like cleats for sailboats. They charged significant $$$ for those little jobs, but the dirty little secret in the anodizing industry was they needed those little jobs to fill in the corners of the tanks and even out the electrical charge thruout the tank.
Thanks for coming Tom! We had a blast!
Any thoughts on the industry wide issue of TF blocks randomly pulling main studs out of the block?
Apparently this has been going on for a few years. Is it time to move towards a different thread profile like buttress or acme / start of block thread chamfer profile / longer block thread length or something else? I wonder if some teams are over tightening the stud into the block pre stressing the threads.
I have been following P1 Manufacturing and Tom Bailey since day one. I think that if he had done this tour before, he would have succeeded with the SMX block deal. Badass Mazak CNC machines I love the video tour. It is very educational.
@@padron632 Steve Morris has the machine at his shop and is making blocks.
The problem when it was at Bailie's shop and the one just before Steve's is they were trying to machine the block in just about one setup from the bell housing end and holding tight tolerances.
You can't hang the block off of a rotating fixture and expect to hold dimensions. Steve's guy had one of the rotating fixtures removed and does the machining in 2 or 3 setups.
@@bobroberts2371 I know about Steve Morris, the best thing he did was change the Haas back to a 4 axis and finish the block in the 5 axis Centroid, and he is doing a very good project in house. He should hard-anodize all the billet main caps. I have seen that he has had problems with that in SML and, I think, in Cleetus SMX Block.
Yes great tour and they know their stuff was very interesting about torque and yeild on bolts well done Tom
Love the Science without the nerd explanation, so much easier to grasp.The Bailelolgy works for my brain.
In my biz career, I got to tour a lot of plants. It was a highlight of my day. Thanks for the tour.
I love videos like this, thanks and Happy 4TH to everyone
Happy 4th to you too!
Wow that's like a billion dollars in capital and machines, impressive
Like Amazon doing fasteners
These gentlemen know their craft very well. As someone whom designs and manufactures weapon components, they shared a plethora of their TDP with laymen that few if any would ever be privy to without having to spend a long time in higher learning scenarios or taking a tour of their facility while them sharing information. Fastener material being one as well as the heat treat process gives insight into how difficult it is to manufacture components subjected to extreme loads and temperatures. In short, this was awesome and hopefully Steve can glean some insight from it as well. Happy Independence Day!
@@strykerentllc bs you are just a kid.
@@edwardwood3622 Eddie thinks he's important. Eddie is wrong. Eddie's mom is going to send him off to bed with no dinner for being on the internet without permission. Don't be like Eddie.
Very interesting, Thanks so much for videoing this. I could listen to him talk about torque all day. I never thought about lubing the washer and nut/bolt base before. I think I have to redo all my stuff now - lol
I wonder if sweat is close enough?
I love seeing where the material I used to help make winds/ wound up. I used to work in a steel mill making coils of stainless from 5.5 mm all the way up to 6" round. The 5.5 was for BBQ grills, and the 6" was for drill bits for offshore oil rig drills. We never really was told what everything in between was used for.
Interesting talk on torquing and lubrication. Thanks for the vid.
Man I am just drooling over the goody's love the science in that place , I miss doing things like this real old disabled vet automation is cool in that place , thank you Tom for bring us along .
I always lube bolt heads before torking, makes a big difference
Absolutely fantastic, love seeing these high end manufacturing facilities right here in the USA. Great tour, Tom, thanks
The start up cost for a business like this must be insane. It would be years before you turned a profit.
It's funny because it's usually 60 year old guys doing it. Graveyard cars comes to mind. Without a key man takeover strategy it is scary
visa card loll
Just the machine costs alone would scare you let alone the tooling inside each machine costs
Good information. I've always lubed both sides of the washer and the threads. Guess I'll need to change that.
Very Cool Tom thanks for Sharing, now that’s a fortress of a Place 😳😎👍🏼🏁
I worked it a factory very similar to this. Back shops and all. We were building LearJets.
Thats Mark from Edelbrock..
I knew I recognized him from somewhere!
Fair to say top fuel isn’t going away anytime soon. Would like to hear the price tag on a TF block......with the price break for number of units factored in.
P1 a monopoly in the making !
That place is awesome !
Steve Morris Engines must watch this video.
Not really😄😄 You should watch some of Steve's videos, you'd learn something
You should watch some of Steve's videos
@@604cuinkillah What I am sure of is that Steve will watch it and learn something from this particular video. I have learned a lot from Steve's videos. Thanks for the recommendation but I have been watching them for years.😄😄😄
You got to keep the rockers rocking and in your case it's not listening to the perfect stranger
The world needs more tips from the real experts. The half-lubed washer thing makes SO much sense.
I bet their maintenance dept. Makes some good money. Lots of precision repair work for those machines
Hearing from Clay Millican’s channel that Top Fuel and Funny Car nitro engines are blowing main caps on these blocks right and left as the studs are pulling out of the block. No known fix at this time but to cut back on power. 10,000 HP breaks everything.
Hey Tom, It's Called Planetary Science! The Study of Planets!☄️🌞🌙
Hey Tom, Didn't Steve Morris Build You An Engine a While Back?🤑🤔
How interesting and what a clean shop.
Teasers....Love it ! Great Job Tom
The first five minutes is my dream shop.
So it looks like Mark Campbell has left the Edelbrock Group.
He did for good reason.
@@GHBTPUSY Dang sounds like more to the story care to fill in
Love your interest level. Respect for the men willing to do this work.
Great to see USA manufacturing!
Tom, quit trying to tell the guys how to do their job, WTH !!!!
Shop full of Mazak. You know they’re serious.
I can only imagine the investment needed for a shop like this 😮.
Who doesn't like machines that have it's own built in steps that you walk up and makes small parts.
little things that make stuff stay together
Did you see the Hemi Cleetus got for his Eagle build it's going to be a beast
Fascinating stuff! Thanx Tom. The toilet bowl match up was a bit crass.
My Aunt worked at a stamping place for a long time and she lost a finger in one of the stamping machines it was back in the early 70's when it happened I forget what they stamped there but they were big tall machines in they would make a big bang everytime it would stamp the steel parts.
@@79tazman ,,, what town did she work in ,,, ?
I have been following P1 Manufacturing and Tom Bailey since day one. I think that if he had done this tour before, he would have succeeded with the SMX block deal. Badass Mazak CNC machines I love the video tour. It is very educational.
Notice how the good shops are spotlessly clean? Right here in the USA! Aerospace QA at the highest level.
Awesome video! Thanks for taking us along. More content like this please and with machines running if allowed.
Big thanks for sharing this video. Very much appreciated all of it .
The size of that one machine is insane !😮
The Tom Bailey interview on what it takes to handle maximum horsepower you done a good job Tom❤❤😮❤❤ way cool thanks for taking us along definitely a great watch
They don't make their own sleeves because Darton spent a fortune to R&D their sleeves (which are a product that's stood the test of time) and so to make as good a product would require a huge investment. Then they have to convince racers their sleeves are as good as Dartons, and prove it in the real world.
Thanks Tom for the tour really cool have a great 4th July guys 🏁💪🏼🇺🇸
Super interesting video!!! Happy 4th everybody!!
True quality
Made with MAZAK milling machines right outta Florence KY. 1 million dollars you can make your own blocks per machine
Is this dude related to Doug Cook from Motion ?
Same voice for sure!!!
That really was a very interesting video, I could spend all week in there. Thanks Tom!
Those blocks are a piece of art.
damn impressive operation!! wow
Maaaaaaaaaaaannn!!!! They have some capital invested in that place!
Time to step up your game and get some wireless mic's, Fellers. Get off that wallet Tom, it's not easy being famous! hahaha
That was cool Tom thanks
Now that was very interesting and informative ! Many thanks.
Really interesting tour 👍
Thanks for sharing.
Tom doing another great visit! Add Darton sleeves to the places to tour too!
First cleetus and now you getting into the hemis.
Maybe Steve needs to get into the game
Steve just did a hemi marine application, that was hard anodized to protect against rust.
This was a superior video to the 'grab-ass', burnout, time-wasting B.S. that make up most of your videos. Sorry Tom, I actually enjoyed this one and please make more like.
I would like to see the video on "I'm done with Haas" (and I hope Steve has better luck).
Gonna run that engine in my manual street car. 😂 Should be fine right?
I got my new shirts today Saturday @ 50% off Thanks Tom Bailey!!!
All these machines are making money!
What a great video. Spent a couple of decades doing setup and programming on Mazak lathes.
Thank you.
You anodize the caps because Keith Black did it 50 years ago ,,, !
I can't wait for the 'experts' to tell us how wrong he is about proper torque procedure. 😏
Here you are Is complaining about other people may complain. You're a karen.. 😂
@@GHBTPUSY well u need reread what you have written and edit for grammar. But I do not believe that he was complaining. He was stating just as he said. He can’t wait to see the comments of how the professionals are doing it incorrectly. Most of us use the comment section for entertainment. All the “experts” who are so good and overqualified that they don’t participate in the industry just to give the rest a chance.
Really? Is are you sure?
@@GHBTPUSY He is are telling us his expectation. He isn’t aren’t complaining.
@@Jalan.Anthony Isn’t aren’t them the fucts of the matter, or is they aren’t?
I think we should be told.
I just want to know why if you are going to let an aluminum rod engine sit for ling periods they recommend loosening the rod bolts but the same rods sit on a shelf with bolts torqued, is the loosening for the rod or bolts?
So Secret Only UA-cam Knows ^^
Awesome video great content👍
What happened to Steve Morris not using his engines anymore 😂
Love watching indepth shopwork like this :D
Alot of good info but that oiling of the washer part is stuck with me now.
Tom what happened to your CNC machine
@@terrypickette118 Steve Morris has it at his shop, not sure who owns it, but that is where it's at.
IS THIS GUY DOUG FROM MOTION RACEWORKS BROTHER???? SURE LOOKS AND SOUNDS LIKE IT COULD BE.......
Fascinating thanks
Hey Tom Bailey, how interesting. Thank you.
I wouldnt say 7075 is more fragile, but definitely harder and more brittle than 6061. Most of my mfg was machining of 6061. Sometimes I did the tooling for and forming of aluminum. In most cases it would be 2024. Its much softer and more pliable. Doesn't stretch "tear" like 6061 would. Dayton Ohio, Tom. Thats where I did all my work.
Whew,, Tom made Mark a tad bit 'uncomfortable' as they were talking about the sleeves made by DART,, @3:37 Tom said "Well everybody used to use somebody else's blocks to,, so that didn't stop ya,,," Got a bit chilly before Mark says,, "Good point, maybe one day."
Amazing! Love American craftsmanship & manufacturing. Thanks for taking us along Tom.
I got drunk and bar hopped at PRI last year with a guy that worked at P1
Gen 3 Hemi please
Thanks for the tour Tom. it was super interesting to say the least. Most people think you pack a bunch of nitro into a 500 cubic inch piece of billet aluminum ,spin it to 9500 and go 300 mph. Not only does it require strong parts but a good tuner as well.. When the last time you adjusted your compression ratio as part of your tune? So yeah while they do produce a lot of what I call raw horsepower from the big blower and a garden hose supply of nitro, to win races, you need a lot of data, a good crew and a really good tuner.
Really cool visit. Who ever would’ve known about lubricating only the top of the washer and the bottom of the nut.
😮
Very interesting stuff
thanks for sharing Tom!
The only thing stopping you building a part in that building is imagination .