Tissot Powermatic 80 problems continue. Back in for service again!
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- Опубліковано 25 сер 2024
- My #Tissot Sideral has issues, erratic beat rate, amplitude and returned it in for servicing. After waiting over a month I received my watch back only to experience the same issues that I was experiencing the first time, erratic beat rate amplitude and beat error. Oddly enough the watch is keeping reasonable time but still just because a watch is keeping time doesn’t mean that it is running well , so back in for service she goes. I am sharing my story on my service experience with the #swatch group. I will follow up this storey when the watch returns from service. #automaticwatch #timegrapher #swatch #service.
![[EN] The TISSOT Powermatic 80 movement](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/hHGi3xt1PAQ/mqdefault.jpg)
You could always get an ETA 2824 or SW200 and take it to a local watchmaker to make the swap from the "powermatic 80" to the classic 4hz ETA. I have a discontinued Hamilton with an original eta 4hz movement. I don't think I will be buying into any modern swatch group watch with these new ETA based movements. Having 80 hours of power reserve is useless to me.
What a pity :) luckily you have many spare ones to enjoy :)
and kudo to the Inu Yasha poster behind :)
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Hello: I purchased a Tissot Chemins des Tourelles for on sale for $750.00 CDN three years ago from Peoples in Vancouver area with free shipping to Ottawa. So far it has consistently run at -1 to -2 seconds per day. I have not had it on a time grapher however. It has the Powermatic 80 (CO7.111) movement with the synthetic escapement and pallet fork. If it needs service from Tissot it will get a new movement. These movements are serviceable but it is cheaper just to replace it.
I would like to invest in a time grapher and some basic watch making tools as I have my grandfathers 1913 silver case Omega railroad pocket watch that needs a cleaning and service. I have done some movement swaps etc. on quartz watches but would love to get into watch repair as a retirement hobby. I think the pocket watch would be a good one to start on as all the parts are larger than a wrist watch.
The Powermatic 80 is basically a 2824 movement with different barrel, escapement, pallet fork and balance so there is no reason it can't be serviced.
Cheers
Bob in Ottawa
Can it swap plastic part for normal one?did most watch shop have it?
And is it expensive?😮
@@kewintaylor7056 Sorry. I have not had my Tissot serviced so I don't know the answer. I would like to know though. I would think that the whole movement could be replaced with an all metal and jewels movement though. There is probably a 2824 variant that might fit.
I know for a fact that if you send a powermatic 80 movement watch in for service they will replace it rather than repair it. Labour costs are high and it’s more economical to simply replace the relatively low cost movement.
I like your hat😊 ….
Thanks! It was actually gifted to me
Hmmmmm I have a couple Tissot on my radar, the gentlemen for example has a quartz option or the Powermatic 80, I think if I go
For one I might just go for the quartz version, hassle free! Great video as always John, and I sure hope you get a bunch more subscribers you definitely deserve it!!
For a daily wear a quartz is a great choice, you get all the looks without the problems of a mechanical watch 😊 plus the savings is considerably large
@@canadianwatchmonkey3992 my
Thoughts exactly John :)
I don´t know the powermatic 80 well enough but the amplitude seems quiet high with over 340°. Maybe the movement is already "knocking" with that high amplitude?!
That was my thought as well.
@@canadianwatchmonkey3992 did you check the watch with only a bit of wind in it? The rate should be stable with a low wind. Knocking normaly only happens at full wind.
good video
Such a shame, as the Sideral itself is an attractive design and certainly different.
Some years back, I bought a $1000 Tissot. Three years later, it was unrepairable and they offered me a $200 discount. Never again.
Not a huge fan of Tissot but on the used market there are some great bargains.
I think you should try adjusting the beat error yourself and see if you can get those 2 lines closer together. Then see what the rate becomes and adjust accordingly. The printout they gave you honestly doesn't look that amazing and I bet you could get better results if you regulated it yourself. I got a San Martin with the Seiko GMT movement to about 3 seconds fast per day. 0.1 beat error.
I would but if I open the watch it will most likely void future warranty
@@canadianwatchmonkey3992 I don't see how they could tell.
The amplitude is too high - looks like it’s overbanked and this is causing the rate figure to jump about because of knocking from the roller jewel hitting the other side of the pallet fork. This could also be linked to the far-too-high beat error. For a modern watch it’s not common - perhaps the banking pins got damaged somehow, or ETA somehow put the wrong mainspring in the watch, neither of which seems likely, but those are the usual reasons.
Thanks for the information, let’s see what happens over the next few weeks as I wait for it to come back from a second service?😮
If you watch my first review of the Sideral I say that as a one and only watch I wouldn’t recommend it but as part of a large collection it adds some element of fun and colour. I have plenty of so called boring watches so this was a departure. 😊😊
I don’t understand the purpose of this video. I have a Tissot Powermatic 80 with the silicon balance spring. So no plastic escape wheel and pallet fork. I have had it for over two and a half years. It performs flawlessly. Since Tissot reduced the beat rate from 4 MHz to 3 MHz to get the 80 hour power reserve, could that be the cause of your unsatisfactory time graph readings? As for Tissot replacing the entire movement instead of repairing the original, sounds like a win win. You are basically getting a new watch. 🤷♂️
That looks like someone tried to regulate the movement without supporting the balance wheel and may have bent the pivot.
Powermatic isn terribly expensive, because it is terrible. period. I had to send in after 1+year. It is magnitude of poor quality and design below any other watch brands i have.
Hey! Any news regarding if the watch has been fixed?
LOOOOOOL my next watch purchase is going to be a sideral I guess not after this
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Thanks! ❤
Anyone else experience issues with their Powermatic 80 powered watches?
Yes, multiple examples, not my favorite movement.
@@michaelbradley6488 not my favourite also. I’ll stick with sellita or Eta my favourite movement is the Tudor Kanissi
Yes my Certina likes to take breaks on its own, I prefer my old Mido commander for reliability.
You say you’re into watches, but still you buy a watch that makes you look like a parrot and if that’s not enough, it has a Lowermatic 80 inside! Jeez, what were you thinking?…
Maybe he bought it so that you would have something to talk about. This watch is not my favorite design, but he must have found it attractive and that is perfectly fine.
@@michaelbradley6488 ok, looks are subjective. We clearly don’t like the same design, and that’s a good thing. But Lowermatic 80?! Come on!…
@@J0hnny8ravo Well visually this watch does not do it for me. I also do not love these movements at all, I don't understand why so many UA-camrs give them such high praise, they have been problematic for me. I just did not want this guy to feel bad about liking the watch, because we all have different taste.
@@michaelbradley6488 I was trying to sound friendly in my original comment. Usually I have a bad mouth but I don’t mean any harm. Someone has to say it: these Lowermatic 80s are just sh!t, I wouldn’t waste a penny on them, rather have a NH3x
@@J0hnny8ravoI have Hamilton Field watches with the ETA in this configuration (Swatch Group) no issues.
Your timegrapher is plastic not good quality
Not the best for sure but it works well for me as an amateur hobbyist. 😊
Nothing wrong with that timegrapher, lots of shops use them…
It's a good unit, even with the plastic shell. Almost every watchmaker I have learned from uses the same model.