I finally got it! This project took me 14 hours to complete nonstop. Ended up having to take both cv axles out. Also had to take off both lower control arms off just to get the struts in place. Then of course the unexpected always happens. Since I’m a complete amateur, I put the struts on the wrong side(passenger strut switched to drivers side and vice versa) because I didn’t mark them when I pulled them out. And of course I totally shredded the strut top bolts treads when trying to cut them with bolt cutters. Luckily I was able to salvage 2 on each strut. This was not a easy task but…… I’m absolutely in love with the look of the Jeep. This video helped a lot. Thanks Mr V.
Damn brother, the Jeep gave up a fight that you over came. Glad it all worked out and your happy with the looks. Make sure if it’s pulling you take it for an alignment. Enjoy brother and if you have any questions I’m always around for advice.
@@MrV2u Appreciate you, unfortunately I’m going to have to do it again soon. Most of my cv boots were busted and leaking grease everywhere . Then I installed the struts on the wrong sides. I believe I’ll be replacing both cv axles and getting new struts with a new leveling kit in a few months and redo the whole thing. At least I know what to expect. My JGC has a 153,000 miles on it.
@@wilder211 the struts on the wrong side isn’t going to do any damage. The leaking cv shafts will be a issue for sure though. If you want to spend more money check on bilstein struts. I forget the model off hand but then you won’t need a lift as they can be adjusted a couple inches higher and give you a lift. Then all you have to do is get a lift of equal height for the rear end.
@@MrV2u ok good to know I’m not tearing anything up with them on the wrong sides. I’ll look into the front bilstiens. I’m think I’m going to go ahead and get a rear lift kit as well.
First of all, this video is incredible. Thank you so much for the detail you put in. It's greatly appreciated. One question though - did the CV shaft just unscrew out? Or how did you remove it? I tried putting this level on myself and had to stop because I wasn't sure how to remove the CV boot or shaft and was too nervous to try. Thanks again for this video!
Daniel Board grab it by the middle section and pull fast and hard. It’s splined so no twisting. It pops right out. Thanks for the feedback brother. Means a lot getting positive feedback. Let me know how you make out.
Great video, I installed same kit several weeks ago. I had a problem with the CV-shafts, the threads at the end that the nut goes on were completely rusted (common Jeep GC problem) The nut backed off ok, but the shafts were not re-usable so I had to replace both.
Do it brother. When you park near a stock Jeep you’ll notice the difference. Make sure you wd40 all the nuts and bolts a couple days before you attempt to do it. Let me know if you have questions and how you make out.
FYI it is not required to remove the caliper. We found the hub barely extended enough to put any meaningful tension on the brake line and abs sensor wire. It simply doesn't need to be done. The full install took 2 hours for 2 dudes lacking some tools . We made do and it looks absolutely bad ass.
Awesome my brother. Glad to have helped out. Make sure you torque everything again in 100 miles give or take. Just to be sure. Thanks for the feedback.
Your welcome brother. Let me know if you run into anything or have any questions. Make sure you wd40 or pb blaster the nuts and bolts a couple days ahead to get the bolts and nuts ready to be removed.
Nice video but you did way too much work. Do these at the shop all the time. Pull upper control ball joint off, remove sway bar link, take off axle nut, caliper and then remove strut. No need to pull cv shaft out, not need to remove lower ball joint or entire knuckle.
@661Mickey how much should a shop charge to do the install for me on my 2016 GC? Just wondering how much your shop charges to do it so I can figure out if I'm getting a good deal.
@@JaredBrown78 the shops will charge alot for this install and the spacers from Rough Country are only $59 bucks for just spacers or $159 for the whole kit.
Just ordered 1 today. I bought a tire 275/60R20 installed it without the leveling kit it was rubbing my fender when I turn. Hopefully this kit will help on not rubbing my fender if I install my tire back.
@@MrV2u It's the stock. I run it with 265/50R20. Decided to do upgrade it to bigger tire 275/60R20 my front wheel just rubbing my fender that's why I need one of this. Hopefully If I install the kit ot won't rubbeb anymore.
@@MrNhick24 if it’s a slight rub then you’ll be good to go brother. If it’s hiring the pinch weld behind the plastic trim then your going to have to cut and bend back the punch weld. Unless you go aftermarket with the rims to get a - offset.
You absolutely can brother. Ready lift and rough country make awesome leveling kits as well as other brands. Down the road if you want you can keep your stock wheels and get bigger tires as well.
Absolutely great and clear explanation. I love how you showed you have to cut factory bolts on top of the strut. Did you have any difficulty getting the strut back in place?
JMR Rebuilders your very welcome. If you have a extra set of hands it’s not that bad to get back in place. It’s a bit tough to do solo but it’s very possible to do. I wish I could of showed it but I didn’t have someone to record me lol. Just take your time and it’s not too bad to do yourself. Let me know if you try it and how you make out.
@@MrV2u we are trying to convince the guy who owns the jeep we worked on to level his. We were about to level the truck we have now but it has it already. We already have the rough country leveling kit for the f150. So now we just got to find one that's not leveled
Great video man, appreciate the measurements. Nobody seems to care enough to do that lol. A couple questions for you. 1.) I assume you measured after you drove a bit and then pulled back into the garage? Or was that measured right after the Jeep was lowered down? And 2.) How do you like the OEM side steps? I’ve got my eye on those as they might come in handy after slightly bigger tires and a level kit. Thanks!
The measurements was taken after I test drove it brother. The oem steps are ok. I wish they were sliders but I have no issues with them whatsoever. Thanks for the feedback brother.
@@MrV2u My Jeep is just a daily pavement princess so I don’t necessarily need sliders, just so long as the OEM steps can actually hold some weight without breaking 🤣 Thanks for the quick reply!
@@TonyTheTruckGuy then you’d be golden brother. I’m a big dude and they hold me just fine. Also when I was loading my tire on my roof rack with my weight plus the tire combo never had a issue lol. Happy a blessed holiday season my friend.
It came with the Jeep when I bought it. There’s a lot out there very similar to mine. I’m thinking of getting rock sliders in the future and removing these bars.
One last question Mr.V. Do you have the issue to where your impact wrench will beat up and chew up the bolt head when using to loosen a bolt? It seems like my ryobi impact wrench chews up and start to round any bolt it touches. Seems like the ryobi almost destroyed my upper control arm bolt? Or is this normal for impact wrenches?
Make sure you have the right size socket on it and it shouldn’t tear anything up. Metric vs standard has a tiny bit of difference. Also make sure your hitting it from straight on and not an angle. I’ve used air impacts with 1000’s of pounds of torque and never chewed up any nuts or bolts. One more thing are you using impact sockets and not just chrome sockets. Impact sockets are black and built to be used with an impact wrench.
@@MrV2u Yes I have impact sockets. I think my issue was letting the socket bounce forward and backward on the bolt. Also for the passenger side does the cv need to be disconnected from the transmission?
brandon scott you will never know it’s there. There is absolutely no difference in ride quality. Handles the exact same way as stock as well. Thanks for the feedback. Let me know if you have any questions when you go about installing the kit.
Awesome video brother, very detailed and A1. I will be installing these in two weeks but I recently replaced both hub assemblies and I didn’t put those washers back between the spindle and hub bearing assembly. What are those thin washers called? I’m sure they need to be there and may be contributing to some steering wheel vibration above 55mph. Please tell me I haven’t ruined anything! Thanks!
It’s basically a shim. It keeps everything from fusing together. It shouldn’t be the cause of your vibrations. Did you torque everything down? Did you get a wheel alignment? Is it a bad vibration? How are your tie rod’s?
Glad to help brother. Here are the Torque specs Axle nut 150 lbs Tie rod 70 lbs Upper ball 75 lbs Lower ball 80 lbs Sway bar link 65 lbs Lower strut bolt 150 lbs These are what I found online from multiple websites to confirm. My friend at the dealer retired so I can't get 100% numbers. After I drove 500 miles I rechecked all the nuts and bolts again. Hope that helps you brother.
A few questions, hopefully you'll be able to provide some knowledge...1. Do you have any objections for putting on the 2.5" lift/level kit from Rough Country? I recently bough this 2" leveling kit but am questioning whether it is going to be enough for a larger wheel and tire setup. Plus have the stance I'm looking for. 2. I saw in another comment that you were thinking of new headlights. Did you ever end up changing them up? Thanks man. Great video, very informative.
Carry The Zero basically on our jeeps your going to get a 32 inch tires under the Jeep. That also depends on the rim your going with and if you want to do pinch weld mods and or cut inner fenders and bumpers. It’s a much tighter fit than my old wk. I had a 265/70R17 tire mounted on a pro comp rim mounted on my Jeep and it wouldn’t fit. The rims I have push the tire out from under the fenders. So I’m just running stock size Goodyear DuraTracs. Maybe in the future I’ll put a real lift on it. It’s still to new to go off roaming with it now. As far as headlights, my boy got a pair of OEM HID headlight assemblies for 600 and they also require the wiring harness for 800. In my opinion I’d rather spend money elsewhere on the Jeep lol. They do look good for sure.
i just bought a 2019 jeep grand cherokee im thinking of putting a 2 to 2.5 suspension lift . is the rough country lift a quality lift. great vid ...peace out
Thanks brother. I had a 2 inch strut spacer in my 06 grand and I never had a issue. I took it off reading in Rausch Creek PA. Never a issue. The rough county leveling kit I put in on my 18, same deal bro. You see a lot of people saying it’s bull, but I’ve never had issues. All it is, is 2 pieces of metal welded together. The welds are solid and the coating they use held up in both jeeps. Glad I could help brother. Any more questions hit me up.
Torque specs Axle nut 150 lbs Tie rod 70 lbs Upper ball 75 lbs Lower ball 80 lbs Sway bar link 65 lbs Lower strut bolt 150 lbs These are what I found online from multiple websites to confirm. My friend at the dealer retired so I can't get 100% numbers. After I drove 500 miles I rechecked all the nuts and bolts again. Hope that helps you brother.
Great vid man. I'm on the fence of doing this myself, or paying a fortune to have a shop do it.. My question though: everyone seems to like the Rocky Road lift vs. Rough Country. Do you have an opinion on brand? Also, I'm not sure if I need spacers only or control arms + spacers for front and back. I want a 2.5" overall lift, currently stock on 20" rims - I need more clearance for trails and want some bigger wheels on there. That's all I need the lift / spacers for.
Splatacular It’s not a bad job doing the leveling kit yourself. If your going with the lift it’s more involved. You will need to take down your springs off the strut. I’ve had rough country on my older Jeep’s. Never had a problem. I can only attest to the rough country system. I would add spacers front and back. Bora from what I can find in the forums makes good quality spacers. Glad you liked the video as well brother. Stay tuned more to come. Any other questions let me know.
This is an amazing video I went to a shop and they wanted 600 alone and another one wanted 800 to add them without alignment which is another 120. Im going to do this this weekend! Any tips beforehand ? Anyway you could make a list of all Allen/wrench/socket sizes ! Thanks so much
I’d recommend spraying every nut and bolt with pb blaster or wd40 now so when you get to it it will have worked in. Then when you actullay do the job hit it with some more. Take your time and don’t rush anything. You’ll be ok brother it’s not as hard as you think. Let me know if you run into anything or have any other questions. I list all the tools needed in the video brother.
I have a 2016 WK2 75th Anniversary that DOES NOT have the air suspension. I am getting 275/55 BFG KO2 20s and know that I will at least need the leveling kit but was also thinking of going with the lift and level. I did not see that you needed a spring compression for the level kit only in this video BUT in the lift&level kit the instructions say that you will need a spring compressor. Have you done a life/level or just the level only? Any recommendations for tackling the lift&level on my own?
For the level you don’t need a spring compressor. You will definitely need one to do the 2.5 lift. You can borrow one for free at advanced auto or autozone. You need to be very careful when you do it on your own because your compressing a spring with a lot of force and you don’t want it to slip off and cause injury lol. If your careful you will be ok. Also if you want you can just do everything else and take your struts and springs to a shop and have them mount the plates in for you. Here’s the directions from Rough Country if you haven’t seen them yet. s3.amazonaws.com/roughcountry/install/921603000A.pdf
Great video! Thanks for the help! I have the same Jeep except I’m running an OEM 265/50/R20. I want a bigger tire while keeping the OEM wheel. Any size suggestions for the tire?? Think 275/55/R20 would look too big?
No problem brother, glad I could help. I would run a 32 inch tire. From checking all the forums the verdict is 32 is the biggest. I tried a 265/70 R17 with my Pro Comp rims and it was a no go, the off set pushed it out to much to fit. I’ve seen rubicon rims and tires mounted on our Grand’s and they fit perfect. Hope that helps brother.
I saw you said that the 2” leveling kit does not come with the spacer between your coil and strut that comes with the 2.5” lift. Well anyways I couldn’t get the coils to compress enough and get it back together. You seem to know what you’re doing so do you see any major problems in my running without the spacer things? Thanks
Kody it shouldn’t be a issue brother. You may want to take the struts to a shop and have them install it for you. They usually have wall mounted spring compressors that can do it no problem. But you should be good to go.
O my god bro. What a bitch to take apart the front struts. To install the lift kit. But man love the way she looks. Now working on the ecu and ripp super charger.
They came on it when I bought it. Further down the road I want to put sliders on it instead. It really wasn’t a bad job. Glad you liked the video. Stay tuned I’ll be doing more.
Can you provide tips on how to line up the bottom of the strut to the lower control arm to get the bolt back through? It's giving me the most trouble. Thanks!
@@MrV2u sorry, I should have said my issue is I cannot get the lower control arm to go "down" far enough to line up the bottom holes of the strut to the lower control arm. It's not that the lower control arm needs to be raised to line up. Thanks!
Hey man! Thanks for the video! Question for you, how do I take out the CV shaft? It seems to be locked, does the car have to be in neutral or something? I’ve been trying to take it out, but that bad boy is not coming out. Thanks!!
Stupid question but did you grab it and give it a real sharp and quick pull? It should pop right out! If not try to get under the Jeep and if you have a long punch or chisel put it against it and hit it with a hammer a couple times. A big C-clip holds it in place. Whatever you do don’t pry against it and the body where it goes into. You can break that soft metal real quick.
MrV2u I can try again, I might need to get back to the gym, because I felt pathetic under there trying to get at it. I’ll be a little more aggressive and see what happens! Is it normal for it to feel locked? Almost like, it’s stuck, or locked, something like that, when I yank on it.
Igreja UNITED yeah bro it can feel like that. Also depending on how many miles you got on it. Show that shaft who’s boss and it will come out fine brother. Let me know when you knock it out.
Hey man. I know you posted this video many years ago but I have 2016 GC now. I’m about to do the install. How was the ride and did you have to compress the spring
On this setup, no spring compression is needed. Follow the video and make sure you spray all those bolts with pb blaster or wd40. The ride quality remains like oem. It’s not stiffer at all. Let me know how you make out or if you have any questions.
@@MrV2u hey man I appreciate the response. I ordered the parts and I’m going to give it A go. I’m a mechanic by trade I just wasn’t aware if you skipped the spring compression because it’s a pain or not. Do you have. Video for the rear?
@mathewalbright7880 I just did the level kit. I didn’t do a complete lift system. But it’s not that hard to do and I’m sure you’ll be able to figure that part out no problem.
@mathewalbright7880 the only time you’ll need a spring compressor is when your pulling the strut apart to put a loaded spacer inline with the top of the strut and spring perch.
Great video man, good job!! How do you like the ride? Did you contact RC and let them know you didn’t get 2 inches out of that even though they said it would?
You in theory get 2 inches of lift brother. The ride is the same as stock. You wouldn’t know it’s there whatsoever. Glad you enjoyed the video. Let me know if you lift yours.
Those 2 bolts that hold the caliper I see it’s a special type of bolt what kind is it and what size socket should I use on that? I ordered myself a lift kit so I wanna be prepared ahead of time before I just zoom in there and start pulling things apart thanks 🤙🏽
The Caliper bushing pins are allen head sockets, and use a proprietary size, none of the common sizes fit properly, but I was able to remove and install them using a 7/16" allen key, even though it was loose in the socket I was able to get it done without damage. The next higher size, metric or standard was too big and wouldn't fit. Let me know how you make out brother.
Came out nice! Does your jeep have trailer tow group 4? Im thinking of adding rough country 2.5 leveling kit but not sure if it would affect the sensors because of the rear load leveling suspension on my jeep.
I don’t have a tow package on mine. If your talking about the air ride suspension. It’s doable but you have to modify the system with a shorter pin that controls the ride height.
MrV2u I don’t have air suspension just an auto leveling load suspension. I had to install a whole emu set up in order to work. Thanks for help, keep making them videos.
@@pacohypers1119 keep at it brother it’s not easy but have patience and it will go in move that control arm up and down to make it go in. Lol you got this in the bag brother.
hey man , i really liked this video, hows your overall experience with the jeep grand cherokee? my uncle has the 2013 overland model, used it upto to mid 2019 no issue at all normal city use , then he had to replace some of the air springs @5000$, hows your experience with the air springs? i currently drive the prado 150 4.0L v6 here in Kenya and im waiting for new redesign to come out next year before deciding to make the purchase . just wana know overall feel of the car , reliability wise , iv been told maintenance is expensive due to prices of the parts . any advice ?
I do all my own maintenance. I lucked out with my year Jeep. I’ve seen a lot of issues with the years prior to and after 2018. I’ve had no issues whatsoever. Sometimes the radio and Apple car play act up. I don’t have air springs on my Jeep. I’m waiting on the big reveal of the new Ford Bronco. Decisions decisions brother. Let me know what you decide to purchase brother. Glad you liked the video. More coming soon.
@@MrV2u The bronco looks good too , waiting to see that too, unfortunately in Africa we dont have access to alot of American vehicles , we tend to follow South African markets ( which follows Australia ). so my choice is down to 2021 jeep Grand cherokee, ford everest, prado and defender . these cars best suit the annual trip i do across Africa . post some videos when you decide on your car too.
I defiantly will. All I know from your list is the Cherokee and defender. The defender is nice, but much more expensive than the Grand Cherokee. If they come out with a new model I’d recommend waiting a year for them to work out the bugs. The new Jeep Wrangler had a lot of issues when it came out with the new model. Keep in touch brother. Glad to know my channel has viewers in other countries.
There are no lift kits in the traditional sense for QL. However there are at least two methods semi-permanent methods, that have been discussed here, to alter the vehicle height. One is via the STAR scan monitor when recalibrating the vehicle height. The other is to replace the little rods/links for the ride height sensor.
Everything should line up no problem. Is it to low get a block of wood on the end of it and jack it up if it’s to low or have someone press it down if it’s to high while you man handle it into place. I didn’t have that issue brother. Let me know how you make out.
Same as day one brother. You won’t even feel any difference. It’s exactly the same as stock. But it looks noticeable when sitting near a stock Jeep. No more rake.
Most likely it’s the same exact deal as mine. Is it just the fronts only? If your mechanically inclined and have the tools, it’s not a bad job. Just plan on doing it during a weekend. Don’t rush and you’ll be golden. Let me know how you make out.
MrV2u there are spacers for the rear strut and shock included in the kit as well, but after going through the instructions it doesn’t seem much different than the front
Do you have to cut the strut bolts to shorten them to make room for the spacers? If you do run a nut down to the bottom so when u cut it all u have to do is back off the nut and it’s easier to clean the threads. Good luck
I just put a 2.5” rough country leveling kit on my Jeep GC and not super happy with how it’s sitting. It sort of looks like it’s leaning back. Do you know if there’s an adjustment or something I could put on the car to make the back sit up just a bit higher? Thanks!
The lift kit is also a leveling kit. It’s made to lift the front higher than the back to make it even brother. Did you measure the height front and back?
@@MrV2u yeah I measured the front and it was sitting at 35.5” and the back is sitting at 35.25”. It’s a very slight difference yet somehow when I look at the car from a distance it looks like it’s leaning. Maybe it’s placebo effect?
@@MrV2u I imagined my Jeep GC would look like the Jeep’s advertised on the rough country video on UA-cam but those jeeps look like they may be sitting higher in the back.
I’ve read somewhere in the forums that there is a rubicon 1/4 inch spacer you can add to the rear ones you put on. I can’t remember off hand where exactly. If you plan on swapping bumpers or adding a winch etc.. I would just leave it as is bro.
Thanks a lot for doing this video. I have a 19 GC Limited, Hemi, tow package(Sachs nivomat shocks) and factory 20" wheels. The rake is exactly 2 inches(33"F, 35"R). I would like to level this thing or at least get it as close as possible. My concern is by altering the front geometry will it shorten the life of some of my front end components? How much does it affect alignment and is there enough adjustability to set to factory spec? This is a daily driver that sees quite a bit of highway use. I want it to look good but I don't want to compromise reliability. Thanks !!
MKE Dan you won’t in anyway damage the front end by leveling it. The leveling kit will level your Jeep for sure brother. It didn’t throw the alignment off and it’s not hard to align to spec at all brother. It rides the same and you won’t feel any difference at all. But when you park next to a stock Jeep you will see the difference. Let me know when you do it how you like it.
Was thinking of installing the Rough Country Spacers on my 17 Jeep GC, will they cause any damage to the suspension? Was told i should replace the struts if i install the spacers.
SilverBack Gorillaz nah you don’t have to replace the struts. Unless there going bad which I doubt being you got a 2017. The spacers don’t do anything to the ride quality or damage anything in any way. Let me know if you go with it and how you make out.
If you’re asking how long it took I’d give it 3-5 hours depending on your ability. If you’re asking how did it turn out it doesn’t drive any different than before the level. Still smooth
nice video man. Had a shop install it for me monday. Will I be able to fit a 265/70/r18 tires without any plastic trimming? Basically a 32.6 x 10.7 tire with no trimming?
It all depends on the rim offset, and tire. You read a lot in forums some say it works some say you might need spacers or punch weld mods. If you know someone in a tire shop have them mount a tire for you and test it out is my best advice. Sorry I couldn’t have solid size numbers for you bro. Let me know how you make out and what you went with. I’m sure a lot of people have the same question.
265/60/18 fit mine stock on stock wheels now have the RC lift with 276/65/18 duratracs stock rims at +56ish offset, pinch weld mod and 1.75” wheel spacers. Got new wheels with +0 offset itching to be put on
Great video! Question for you. Which size tires did you go with after the level kit. I will be installing this same kit for my 2019 wk2 and putting 285/70R17 just wondering how big I could go after that 2" level lift? Would 285/70R17 fit on point?
Edgar Arredondo I went with after market rims which pushed my rims out away from the hub. Which limited my choices on the larger tire. If you stay with stock rims you can run 32 inch tires.
I did everything needed. But the front height was very large, more than 8 inches, and I don't know the reason. I used Blisten shock absorbers B8 5100 series
Aren’t those the adjustable shocks? You have to lower them to the height you like brother. I’m about to get those shocks as well. Heard good things about them. Let me know if that works for you and how you like them.
I’m driving now but I’ll try and find you instructions if you need. Let me know, I wouldn’t run it at full height. You’ll feel every pebble on the road.
I had one of these installed by a shop on my Grand Cherokee and I am getting a clunk or pop from the suspension when it is articulating and whenever I hit a bump the right way. Seems to be coming from the right side only. Any idea what it might be?
Check your entire front end. It can be anything from a ball joint to a broken sway bar link. Jack up one side at a time grab the wheel and try to rock it side to side and up and down. Should be tight with no play. Was the noise immediately after they installed it? If so take it back.
MrV2u Yes I heard the noise before I even pulled out of the parking lot. I got underneath and everything looks tight. Have an appointment Thursday to have them figure out what it is. Sound really seems to be very intermittent and doesn’t always happen going over bumps.
I stilled this one my 15 WK2, only issue I have is that the front is sitting higher than the front. Any recommendations on what went wrong? I have a shop install them for me. Also would installing rear coil spacers work to level it out?
About how many miles you have on the Jeep? Do you take it off roading? Do you carry a lot of weight in it? It’s normal for springs to start sagging some as they age or get used. Maybe the rears are loosing their height some. Mine is still sitting level the way it was when I installed it brother. How many inches is it lower?
@@MrV2u I haven't done that yet and it's been about 30k, I seem in a separate video that people said to let it "settle" but it's still sitting lower on the rear about an inch or less, have yet to measure it.
105k still isn’t bad. Unless you beat the Jeep up with weight and off roading. But let me know what you get when you do measure it brother. I’ve done many levels and lifts never saw it measure different than what the kit says.
@@wilder211 did you try grabbing the shaft and jerking with one strong pull? You can also get it on without pulling the shaft but it’s going to be a fight to do so.
Awesome video! So I just called rough country and they said they don't make a 2" lift for my 2018 jeep?! He said they only have the lift kit (which will level the vehicle) 2.5" in the front and 3/4" for the rear.... kit was over $100. Any idea what the deal with that is??
@@MrV2u Thank you. Yeah I was looking at both... I just want the leveling kit so I'm not changing up too much stuff. I don't think the dude know what he was talking about..so I called back and the next guy basically said "yeah, the leveling kit will work just fine" so I went ahead and ordered it. Thanks again!!
@@wilder211 I personally don’t like having my springs under a constant load with the spacer in between the top of the spring and strut. It makes for a harsher ride. The spacer that goes on top like the one I installed in this video doesn’t effect ride quality in any way.
@@MrV2u ohh I see. The actual lift kit comes with that extra plate to put on top of the spring for the front. I just ordered this kit today and will try to tackle this job this week. You made it look super easy. It appears you had ZERO struggle getting bolts loosened lol
My Jeep was fairly new so the bolts weren’t bad to deal with it. Make sure to spray them good with pb blaster or wd40. If anything is frozen and you don’t have impact tools get a breaker bar on it and show it who’s boss. Let me know if you run into anything or need advice brother.
So I have a jeep grand cherokee 2015 I want to put bigger tires and bigger wheel what do I need to install so they can fit perfectly fine . I'm thinking a 20"
Yovani Botello first I would lift the Jeep, Depending on what you want to do, such as off roading or just for looks. The lift determines the tire size, also the bigger the tire the more gas you consume as well as poorer performance unless you got a 8 cylinder. With my leveling kit and rims I just put on I can safely put a 32-33 inch tire on it. Also the bigger the rim the lower the profile tire you’d have to run with. I stayed with 17 inch rims so I can have as much tire as possible on it. Hope that answers some of your questions if not let me know so I can answer more.
Yovani Botello you’ll loose about 2-3 mpg. I’m going with 265/70R17 Goodyear duratrac tire. That comes out to about a 32.5 inch tire. Good looks and it’s good tire for slight mud, rain, ice and snow. I had it on my old Jeep and it handled everything flawlessly. It’s one of the few tires that is snow and ice rated. It also has long thread life which is another thing to be concerned about. You can do what I did in this video and you’ll be good to go. 2 inch leveling kit from rough country. If you want to go bigger then you’ll have to get a 2 -2 1/2 inch lift all around.
It’s going to be the labor rate times 3-6 hours labor time. Depending on the rate I’m assuming 300-600 ballpark. If your handy and have some basic tools you can knock it out in a weekend.
Honestly brother I’m pretty sure it will be short. But with just a level your not really doing much to make you regret it. You won’t damage anything nor change any ride quality. Hope that helps brother if you attempt to do it and have any questions I’m always around for advice.
Could I fit 33” tires on my 2012 grand Cherokee after installing this 2” leveling kit? If not, what do you think the max size tire would be after the kits installed?
According to rough country. 265/70R17. Which is basically a 32 inch tire. That’s what I’m going to roll with. Anything bigger you will need spacers and pinch weld mods. I’m also going with Goodyear duratracs. There awesome tires. Long lasting and good all around.
Might try 285/70 as well then. But I’m pretty sure you’ll need to do a pinch weld and or spacers. The upper ball joint stud is going to be a issue for sure.
Coming back to this vid after about 3 months. Installing another leveling kit on another GC(2012). I’m running into problems removing the front axles, any tips?
You just got to man handle it. Try to get a pry bar behind it and pry it loose. It should come out with a sharp pull. Be careful not to crack the cast housing where it goes into the differential. Let me know how you make out brother.
Holy shit, probably the best Cherokee lift install video on YT! Well done brother! Thank you for throughly putting this video together! 💪
Your very welcome my brother. Let me know how you make out, or you have any questions. Happy Jeeping brother.
Thanks for putting this clip together. Torque-to-Spec!
Lol absolutely brother. Got to be to spec!
Solid video. No nonsense just straight up information and how-to. Thanks a lot
I’m going to be leveling up my 21 ram soon brother. Stay tuned. Your very welcome for the help and thanks for the feedback my brother.
I finally got it! This project took me 14 hours to complete nonstop. Ended up having to take both cv axles out. Also had to take off both lower control arms off just to get the struts in place. Then of course the unexpected always happens. Since I’m a complete amateur, I put the struts on the wrong side(passenger strut switched to drivers side and vice versa) because I didn’t mark them when I pulled them out. And of course I totally shredded the strut top bolts treads when trying to cut them with bolt cutters. Luckily I was able to salvage 2 on each strut. This was not a easy task but…… I’m absolutely in love with the look of the Jeep. This video helped a lot. Thanks Mr V.
Damn brother, the Jeep gave up a fight that you over came. Glad it all worked out and your happy with the looks. Make sure if it’s pulling you take it for an alignment. Enjoy brother and if you have any questions I’m always around for advice.
@@MrV2u Appreciate you, unfortunately I’m going to have to do it again soon. Most of my cv boots were busted and leaking grease everywhere . Then I installed the struts on the wrong sides. I believe I’ll be replacing both cv axles and getting new struts with a new leveling kit in a few months and redo the whole thing. At least I know what to expect. My JGC has a 153,000 miles on it.
@@wilder211 the struts on the wrong side isn’t going to do any damage. The leaking cv shafts will be a issue for sure though. If you want to spend more money check on bilstein struts. I forget the model off hand but then you won’t need a lift as they can be adjusted a couple inches higher and give you a lift. Then all you have to do is get a lift of equal height for the rear end.
@@MrV2u ok good to know I’m not tearing anything up with them on the wrong sides. I’ll look into the front bilstiens. I’m think I’m going to go ahead and get a rear lift kit as well.
First of all, this video is incredible. Thank you so much for the detail you put in. It's greatly appreciated. One question though - did the CV shaft just unscrew out? Or how did you remove it? I tried putting this level on myself and had to stop because I wasn't sure how to remove the CV boot or shaft and was too nervous to try. Thanks again for this video!
Daniel Board grab it by the middle section and pull fast and hard. It’s splined so no twisting. It pops right out. Thanks for the feedback brother. Means a lot getting positive feedback. Let me know how you make out.
Great vid. Been wanted to do this but waiting on warmer weather. With the level of detail you gave I'm confident I can do this.
You can do it brother. Take your time and you’ll be golden. Let me know how you make out.
And if you run into a snag hit me up.
Great video, I installed same kit several weeks ago. I had a problem with the CV-shafts, the threads at the end that the nut goes on were completely rusted (common Jeep GC problem) The nut backed off ok, but the shafts were not re-usable so I had to replace both.
John Humphrey damn man that sucks. Make sure you torque everything down and recheck often. How you like it so far? Did you go bigger with your tires?
Hi mate, just want to say... the eay you have put your video together is the brst I have ever saw . F good on you thanks
Thanks brother I try my best. Merry Christmas and happy new year.
Best vid out there on this subject
Thanks my friend. Let me know how you make out on your Jeep.
Bro, I liked as soon as I saw that measuring tape ! Thank you for the great content. God Bless
You got it brother. Just take your time and it will come out perfect. God bless as well brother. We need His blessings now more than ever.
@@MrV2u Yes we do, Stay safe and stay positive.
@@aboulmagd88 absolutely my friend.
Great tutorial video with no BS!!! Just got a ‘14 Limited and thinking about doing this.
Do it brother. When you park near a stock Jeep you’ll notice the difference. Make sure you wd40 all the nuts and bolts a couple days before you attempt to do it. Let me know if you have questions and how you make out.
@@MrV2u Thanks brother...I just bought it Friday, so I’ll wait a few weeks, but I think it needs to happen!!!
FYI it is not required to remove the caliper. We found the hub barely extended enough to put any meaningful tension on the brake line and abs sensor wire. It simply doesn't need to be done. The full install took 2 hours for 2 dudes lacking some tools . We made do and it looks absolutely bad ass.
Nice job brother. Enjoy that Jeep.
Thanks for this man really good video with great info
Thanks for the feedback brother.
Followed this exactly and aced it thank you
Awesome my brother. Glad to have helped out. Make sure you torque everything again in 100 miles give or take. Just to be sure. Thanks for the feedback.
Looks good man. Great install video. Glad you were able to use them since I changed my mind.
Absolutely brother. I didn’t forget about you either. You have a good Christmas and happy New Years.
@@MrV2u No problem man. Thanks. Same to you & your family too.
Appreciate the video big dog! Ima gonna be putting mine on soon
Your welcome brother. Let me know if you run into anything or have any questions. Make sure you wd40 or pb blaster the nuts and bolts a couple days ahead to get the bolts and nuts ready to be removed.
@@MrV2u right on man I appreciate the tip!
Great video… I’m doing mine today so wish me luck!
Let me know how you make out or if you have questions my friend.
Thanks for posting this. Great video.
Thanks for the support. I try my best to be as thorough as possible.
So clean ..nice job
Thanks my brother.
Really good video sir.
Thanks for the feedback brother. Hope it helps someone attempting this install.
Nice work! Impressive skills
Carle Aldrete thanks my brother. Much appreciated.
Nice video but you did way too much work. Do these at the shop all the time. Pull upper control ball joint off, remove sway bar link, take off axle nut, caliper and then remove strut. No need to pull cv shaft out, not need to remove lower ball joint or entire knuckle.
Thanks for the tip brother. Should help someone out.
@661Mickey how much should a shop charge to do the install for me on my 2016 GC? Just wondering how much your shop charges to do it so I can figure out if I'm getting a good deal.
@@JaredBrown78 2 to 3 hours max for the front by itself, 1 hr for rear. Plus alignment. We charge 110hr so 220 to 330 plus 89 bucks for alignment.
Any recommendations on how to get the strut back on without removing the CV?
@@JaredBrown78 the shops will charge alot for this install and the spacers from Rough Country are only $59 bucks for just spacers or $159 for the whole kit.
Can you share the Torque specs for the bolts removed?
There in the video description my friend.
Great video
Glad you liked it brother. Are you planing on leveling your Jeep?
I have a question for you if that’s so acceptable is 4x2”(no cv axle)”boots if may this level lift be safe 2inch?
I truly can’t see why not. It’s the same exact setup like you said minus the front shafts. Let me know how you make out brother.
I have a 2014 grand cherokee limited, where do you find the torque ratings to tighten everything back up?
It’s all in the video description brother.
Just ordered 1 today. I bought a tire 275/60R20 installed it without the leveling kit it was rubbing my fender when I turn. Hopefully this kit will help on not rubbing my fender if I install my tire back.
It should help brother. It also depends on the wheel offset as well. Let me know how you make out or if you have any questions.
@@MrV2u It's the stock. I run it with 265/50R20. Decided to do upgrade it to bigger tire 275/60R20 my front wheel just rubbing my fender that's why I need one of this. Hopefully If I install the kit ot won't rubbeb anymore.
@@MrNhick24 if it’s a slight rub then you’ll be good to go brother. If it’s hiring the pinch weld behind the plastic trim then your going to have to cut and bend back the punch weld. Unless you go aftermarket with the rims to get a - offset.
@@MrV2u I will get it installed tomorrow. I will get back to you how it goes. I also run a 1.5 wheel spacers
@@MrNhick24 try to take a spacer off. It might help.
Can I lift level my Jeep 2021 Cherokee latitude fwd without changing the wheels and tires
You absolutely can brother. Ready lift and rough country make awesome leveling kits as well as other brands. Down the road if you want you can keep your stock wheels and get bigger tires as well.
Thank you
You got it Jacob.
Absolutely great and clear explanation. I love how you showed you have to cut factory bolts on top of the strut. Did you have any difficulty getting the strut back in place?
JMR Rebuilders your very welcome. If you have a extra set of hands it’s not that bad to get back in place. It’s a bit tough to do solo but it’s very possible to do. I wish I could of showed it but I didn’t have someone to record me lol. Just take your time and it’s not too bad to do yourself. Let me know if you try it and how you make out.
@@MrV2u will do. Appreciate your help. Keep getting after it
JMR Rebuilders just subscribed to your channel. Going by what your doing lifting the Jeep isn’t going to be anything for you guys lol.
@@MrV2u we are trying to convince the guy who owns the jeep we worked on to level his. We were about to level the truck we have now but it has it already. We already have the rough country leveling kit for the f150. So now we just got to find one that's not leveled
@@MrV2u appreciate the sub and support.
Can you still use the air suspension with this
Not with this system. They do sell kits that come with links to deal with the air ride systems.
@@MrV2u right on, thanks for the reply.
Great video man, appreciate the measurements. Nobody seems to care enough to do that lol. A couple questions for you. 1.) I assume you measured after you drove a bit and then pulled back into the garage? Or was that measured right after the Jeep was lowered down? And 2.) How do you like the OEM side steps? I’ve got my eye on those as they might come in handy after slightly bigger tires and a level kit. Thanks!
The measurements was taken after I test drove it brother. The oem steps are ok. I wish they were sliders but I have no issues with them whatsoever. Thanks for the feedback brother.
@@MrV2u My Jeep is just a daily pavement princess so I don’t necessarily need sliders, just so long as the OEM steps can actually hold some weight without breaking 🤣 Thanks for the quick reply!
@@TonyTheTruckGuy then you’d be golden brother. I’m a big dude and they hold me just fine. Also when I was loading my tire on my roof rack with my weight plus the tire combo never had a issue lol. Happy a blessed holiday season my friend.
@@MrV2u That’s what I wanted to hear haha. Thanks man, you too!
What nerf bars are on your Jeep? Part # ?
It came with the Jeep when I bought it. There’s a lot out there very similar to mine. I’m thinking of getting rock sliders in the future and removing these bars.
One last question Mr.V. Do you have the issue to where your impact wrench will beat up and chew up the bolt head when using to loosen a bolt? It seems like my ryobi impact wrench chews up and start to round any bolt it touches. Seems like the ryobi almost destroyed my upper control arm bolt? Or is this normal for impact wrenches?
Make sure you have the right size socket on it and it shouldn’t tear anything up. Metric vs standard has a tiny bit of difference. Also make sure your hitting it from straight on and not an angle. I’ve used air impacts with 1000’s of pounds of torque and never chewed up any nuts or bolts. One more thing are you using impact sockets and not just chrome sockets. Impact sockets are black and built to be used with an impact wrench.
@@MrV2u Yes I have impact sockets. I think my issue was letting the socket bounce forward and backward on the bolt. Also for the passenger side does the cv need to be disconnected from the transmission?
@@wilder211 neither side has to be pulled. It just makes it a bit easier brother to do so.
Great video, thanks for posting it. Can you describe the ride quality since you added the levelers? I bought the same kit but haven't put them on yet?
brandon scott you will never know it’s there. There is absolutely no difference in ride quality. Handles the exact same way as stock as well. Thanks for the feedback. Let me know if you have any questions when you go about installing the kit.
Awesome video brother, very detailed and A1. I will be installing these in two weeks but I recently replaced both hub assemblies and I didn’t put those washers back between the spindle and hub bearing assembly. What are those thin washers called? I’m sure they need to be there and may be contributing to some steering wheel vibration above 55mph. Please tell me I haven’t ruined anything! Thanks!
It’s basically a shim. It keeps everything from fusing together. It shouldn’t be the cause of your vibrations. Did you torque everything down? Did you get a wheel alignment? Is it a bad vibration? How are your tie rod’s?
Thanks for the video. Did you put different wheels on?
Not yet. I just sprayed the stock ones. Waiting for my tires to wear down before I get some duratracs.
Hey great video! Is it wise to get an alignment after the install or would it really even matter you think? Cheers! Torque to spec!
Always torque to spec lol. It’s recommended. I didn’t and haven’t had any issues. Thanks brother cheers
cool.. you should have had a pic of the before and after. that would be great to compare.
Next time, I’m leveling a 21 Ram soon. Just picture the Jeep sitting perfectly even front to back lol. Take care my friend.
Thanks for the video. Very simple and clear. Just wondering where I can find the torque specs ?
Glad to help brother. Here are the Torque specs
Axle nut 150 lbs
Tie rod 70 lbs
Upper ball 75 lbs
Lower ball 80 lbs
Sway bar link 65 lbs
Lower strut bolt 150 lbs
These are what I found online from multiple websites to confirm. My friend at the dealer retired so I can't get 100% numbers. After I drove 500 miles I rechecked all the nuts and bolts again. Hope that helps you brother.
Would these work on a 2011 Jeep Grand Cherokee limited
Absolutely brother. Check their website to verify but I’m sure they would.
A few questions, hopefully you'll be able to provide some knowledge...1. Do you have any objections for putting on the 2.5" lift/level kit from Rough Country? I recently bough this 2" leveling kit but am questioning whether it is going to be enough for a larger wheel and tire setup. Plus have the stance I'm looking for.
2. I saw in another comment that you were thinking of new headlights. Did you ever end up changing them up?
Thanks man. Great video, very informative.
I just saw your response to the gentleman's comment from yesterday, sorry! Would still be interested in your input
Carry The Zero basically on our jeeps your going to get a 32 inch tires under the Jeep. That also depends on the rim your going with and if you want to do pinch weld mods and or cut inner fenders and bumpers. It’s a much tighter fit than my old wk. I had a 265/70R17 tire mounted on a pro comp rim mounted on my Jeep and it wouldn’t fit. The rims I have push the tire out from under the fenders. So I’m just running stock size Goodyear DuraTracs. Maybe in the future I’ll put a real lift on it. It’s still to new to go off roaming with it now. As far as headlights, my boy got a pair of OEM HID headlight assemblies for 600 and they also require the wiring harness for 800. In my opinion I’d rather spend money elsewhere on the Jeep lol. They do look good for sure.
@@MrV2u I'll keep that in mind, thanks for the input.
is there are any change of engine oil level after instaled that???
No nothing changed at all brother.
i just bought a 2019 jeep grand cherokee im thinking of putting a 2 to 2.5 suspension lift . is the rough country lift a quality lift. great vid ...peace out
Thanks brother. I had a 2 inch strut spacer in my 06 grand and I never had a issue. I took it off reading in Rausch Creek PA. Never a issue. The rough county leveling kit I put in on my 18, same deal bro. You see a lot of people saying it’s bull, but I’ve never had issues. All it is, is 2 pieces of metal welded together. The welds are solid and the coating they use held up in both jeeps. Glad I could help brother. Any more questions hit me up.
Is there any way you could leave a list of the torque specs for the different components
When I get back from vacation I’ll get you the specs.
Torque specs
Axle nut 150 lbs
Tie rod 70 lbs
Upper ball 75 lbs
Lower ball 80 lbs
Sway bar link 65 lbs
Lower strut bolt 150 lbs
These are what I found online from multiple websites to confirm. My friend at the dealer retired so I can't get 100% numbers. After I drove 500 miles I rechecked all the nuts and bolts again. Hope that helps you brother.
Damn, that's a lot of work.
Lol it was, but worth it. If you just take your time it’s not bad.
It's a 1.5 hour job.. i install these all the time
Great vid man. I'm on the fence of doing this myself, or paying a fortune to have a shop do it.. My question though: everyone seems to like the Rocky Road lift vs. Rough Country. Do you have an opinion on brand? Also, I'm not sure if I need spacers only or control arms + spacers for front and back. I want a 2.5" overall lift, currently stock on 20" rims - I need more clearance for trails and want some bigger wheels on there. That's all I need the lift / spacers for.
Splatacular It’s not a bad job doing the leveling kit yourself. If your going with the lift it’s more involved. You will need to take down your springs off the strut. I’ve had rough country on my older Jeep’s. Never had a problem. I can only attest to the rough country system. I would add spacers front and back. Bora from what I can find in the forums makes good quality spacers. Glad you liked the video as well brother. Stay tuned more to come. Any other questions let me know.
This is an amazing video I went to a shop and they wanted 600 alone and another one wanted 800 to add them without alignment which is another 120. Im going to do this this weekend! Any tips beforehand ? Anyway you could make a list of all Allen/wrench/socket sizes ! Thanks so much
I’d recommend spraying every nut and bolt with pb blaster or wd40 now so when you get to it it will have worked in. Then when you actullay do the job hit it with some more. Take your time and don’t rush anything. You’ll be ok brother it’s not as hard as you think. Let me know if you run into anything or have any other questions. I list all the tools needed in the video brother.
How did it go Tyler
@@wilder211 hey there! It went super easy and helped a lot with this video! Looks soo much better too !!! Wish I could post a photo here
@@tylerbentley5413 I just ordered off Amazon today and will try to tackle this this week. Any tips? Did you use impact tools?
Good deal brother. I’m sure the Jeep looks bad arse for sure. Enjoy your setup my friend.
I have a 2016 WK2 75th Anniversary that DOES NOT have the air suspension. I am getting 275/55 BFG KO2 20s and know that I will at least need the leveling kit but was also thinking of going with the lift and level. I did not see that you needed a spring compression for the level kit only in this video BUT in the lift&level kit the instructions say that you will need a spring compressor. Have you done a life/level or just the level only? Any recommendations for tackling the lift&level on my own?
For the level you don’t need a spring compressor. You will definitely need one to do the 2.5 lift. You can borrow one for free at advanced auto or autozone. You need to be very careful when you do it on your own because your compressing a spring with a lot of force and you don’t want it to slip off and cause injury lol. If your careful you will be ok. Also if you want you can just do everything else and take your struts and springs to a shop and have them mount the plates in for you. Here’s the directions from Rough Country if you haven’t seen them yet.
s3.amazonaws.com/roughcountry/install/921603000A.pdf
Great video! Thanks for the help!
I have the same Jeep except I’m running an OEM 265/50/R20. I want a bigger tire while keeping the OEM wheel. Any size suggestions for the tire?? Think 275/55/R20 would look too big?
No problem brother, glad I could help. I would run a 32 inch tire. From checking all the forums the verdict is 32 is the biggest. I tried a 265/70 R17 with my Pro Comp rims and it was a no go, the off set pushed it out to much to fit. I’ve seen rubicon rims and tires mounted on our Grand’s and they fit perfect. Hope that helps brother.
MrV2u Thanks for the advice and quick response brother! Keep up the good work!
I saw you said that the 2” leveling kit does not come with the spacer between your coil and strut that comes with the 2.5” lift. Well anyways I couldn’t get the coils to compress enough and get it back together. You seem to know what you’re doing so do you see any major problems in my running without the spacer things? Thanks
Kody it shouldn’t be a issue brother. You may want to take the struts to a shop and have them install it for you. They usually have wall mounted spring compressors that can do it no problem. But you should be good to go.
Bro. U want to do mine. I just ordered the 2.5 lift kit. From rough country. It sounds like u just down the road from me. Hahaha
O my god bro. What a bitch to take apart the front struts. To install the lift kit. But man love the way she looks. Now working on the ecu and ripp super charger.
Lol going to be dope when its all said and done. Tear the world up my brother. Let me know how it turns out.
Good video i dont think i would be able to do this myself being a lady but i like the set up. Including the running boards which ones are these?
They came on it when I bought it. Further down the road I want to put sliders on it instead. It really wasn’t a bad job. Glad you liked the video. Stay tuned I’ll be doing more.
Nice video - getting ready to do this myself. What did you use to trim the screws?
You can use anything from a hack saw, angle grinder, if you have a metal cutting disc on a Dremel that would work to. Let me know how you make out.
Thanks for the video. I’m in the midst of doing this now. What size are the two caliper bolts?
jmg47905 u can get by with a 7/16 Allen key . It’s a proprietary size that Jeep uses.
Can you provide tips on how to line up the bottom of the strut to the lower control arm to get the bolt back through? It's giving me the most trouble. Thanks!
If you have a large punch that will help and use a jack to lift the control arm up a bit brother. Let me know how you make out.
@@MrV2u sorry, I should have said my issue is I cannot get the lower control arm to go "down" far enough to line up the bottom holes of the strut to the lower control arm. It's not that the lower control arm needs to be raised to line up. Thanks!
And the knuckle is not attached yet.
Try loosening your lower control arm mounting bolts. That should let the arm drop down more.
Torqued to spec
Always torque to spec my brother lol.
Hey man! Thanks for the video! Question for you, how do I take out the CV shaft? It seems to be locked, does the car have to be in neutral or something? I’ve been trying to take it out, but that bad boy is not coming out. Thanks!!
Stupid question but did you grab it and give it a real sharp and quick pull? It should pop right out! If not try to get under the Jeep and if you have a long punch or chisel put it against it and hit it with a hammer a couple times. A big C-clip holds it in place. Whatever you do don’t pry against it and the body where it goes into. You can break that soft metal real quick.
You can also try pushing it in and quickly yanking it out. Again fast and sharply. It should come out with a little persuasion.
MrV2u I can try again, I might need to get back to the gym, because I felt pathetic under there trying to get at it. I’ll be a little more aggressive and see what happens! Is it normal for it to feel locked? Almost like, it’s stuck, or locked, something like that, when I yank on it.
Igreja UNITED yeah bro it can feel like that. Also depending on how many miles you got on it. Show that shaft who’s boss and it will come out fine brother. Let me know when you knock it out.
MrV2u Thanks! And thank you for responding!!! We love all your stuff! Keep it up man!
Hey man. I know you posted this video many years ago but I have 2016 GC now. I’m about to do the install. How was the ride and did you have to compress the spring
On this setup, no spring compression is needed. Follow the video and make sure you spray all those bolts with pb blaster or wd40. The ride quality remains like oem. It’s not stiffer at all. Let me know how you make out or if you have any questions.
@@MrV2u hey man I appreciate the response. I ordered the parts and I’m going to give it A go. I’m a mechanic by trade I just wasn’t aware if you skipped the spring compression because it’s a pain or not. Do you have. Video for the rear?
@@MrV2u get video btw
@mathewalbright7880 I just did the level kit. I didn’t do a complete lift system. But it’s not that hard to do and I’m sure you’ll be able to figure that part out no problem.
@mathewalbright7880 the only time you’ll need a spring compressor is when your pulling the strut apart to put a loaded spacer inline with the top of the strut and spring perch.
Great video man, good job!! How do you like the ride? Did you contact RC and let them know you didn’t get 2 inches out of that even though they said it would?
You in theory get 2 inches of lift brother. The ride is the same as stock. You wouldn’t know it’s there whatsoever. Glad you enjoyed the video. Let me know if you lift yours.
Those 2 bolts that hold the caliper I see it’s a special type of bolt what kind is it and what size socket should I use on that? I ordered myself a lift kit so I wanna be prepared ahead of time before I just zoom in there and start pulling things apart thanks 🤙🏽
The Caliper bushing pins are allen head sockets, and use a proprietary size, none of the common sizes fit properly, but I was able to remove and install them using a 7/16" allen key, even though it was loose in the socket I was able to get it done without damage. The next higher size, metric or standard was too big and wouldn't fit. Let me know how you make out brother.
MrV2u awesome now I’m ready to get started thank you sir 🤙🏽
Came out nice! Does your jeep have trailer tow group 4? Im thinking of adding rough country 2.5 leveling kit but not sure if it would affect the sensors because of the rear load leveling suspension on my jeep.
I don’t have a tow package on mine. If your talking about the air ride suspension. It’s doable but you have to modify the system with a shorter pin that controls the ride height.
MrV2u I don’t have air suspension just an auto leveling load suspension. I had to install a whole emu set up in order to work. Thanks for help, keep making them videos.
I definitely will brother. Keep on watching I got a couple things in the works for the Grand.
hey man nice video i have a 2018 grand cherokee does this leveling kit affect the suspension on the jeep and how does it ride ? Thank you
It doesn’t effect the ride quality nor has any negative effects overall. Thanks for the support brother.
for some reason i tried doing this but my sway bar link keeps getting stuck when removing the back bolt off
Lift or lower the control arm to shake it free brother. Did you make out with it already?
Im still at the proccess rn man im so close but now i cant put the shock back it behind the sway link arm 😂
@@pacohypers1119 keep at it brother it’s not easy but have patience and it will go in move that control arm up and down to make it go in. Lol you got this in the bag brother.
good video
Thanks brother.
hey man , i really liked this video,
hows your overall experience with the jeep grand cherokee?
my uncle has the 2013 overland model, used it upto to mid 2019 no issue at all normal city use , then he had to replace some of the air springs @5000$, hows your experience with the air springs?
i currently drive the prado 150 4.0L v6 here in Kenya and im waiting for new redesign to come out next year before deciding to make the purchase .
just wana know overall feel of the car , reliability wise , iv been told maintenance is expensive due to prices of the parts .
any advice ?
I do all my own maintenance. I lucked out with my year Jeep. I’ve seen a lot of issues with the years prior to and after 2018. I’ve had no issues whatsoever. Sometimes the radio and Apple car play act up. I don’t have air springs on my Jeep. I’m waiting on the big reveal of the new Ford Bronco. Decisions decisions brother. Let me know what you decide to purchase brother. Glad you liked the video. More coming soon.
@@MrV2u The bronco looks good too , waiting to see that too, unfortunately in Africa we dont have access to alot of American vehicles , we tend to follow South African markets ( which follows Australia ).
so my choice is down to 2021 jeep Grand cherokee, ford everest, prado and defender .
these cars best suit the annual trip i do across Africa . post some videos when you decide on your car too.
I defiantly will. All I know from your list is the Cherokee and defender. The defender is nice, but much more expensive than the Grand Cherokee. If they come out with a new model I’d recommend waiting a year for them to work out the bugs. The new Jeep Wrangler had a lot of issues when it came out with the new model. Keep in touch brother. Glad to know my channel has viewers in other countries.
Nice video mate! Do you know if this set up works too on a quadra lift?
There are no lift kits in the traditional sense for QL. However there are at least two methods semi-permanent methods, that have been discussed here, to alter the vehicle height. One is via the STAR scan monitor when recalibrating the vehicle height. The other is to replace the little rods/links for the ride height sensor.
That’s all that I could find online for your setup brother. Sorry I don’t have better news.
Hey man great video. Did you have to use an impact gun for the install?
None at all. Went old school with it. I don’t have my air compressor yet. It’s not bad with hand tools.
Also brother spray all the nuts with a lubricant first and let sit for like 15 mins. It helps a lot. Wd-40, pb blaster, etc...
Sounds good man thanks for the info. 👍
okay so i got the struts in but my sway bar wont come close to fitting
Everything should line up no problem. Is it to low get a block of wood on the end of it and jack it up if it’s to low or have someone press it down if it’s to high while you man handle it into place. I didn’t have that issue brother. Let me know how you make out.
Good vid just joshin ya ahah
Lol it’s all good brother. Glad to help when I can. Let me know if you pull the trigger on a lift for your Jeep.
Great Video Mr V. How do you like the ride a year later, any issues?
Same as day one brother. You won’t even feel any difference. It’s exactly the same as stock. But it looks noticeable when sitting near a stock Jeep. No more rake.
Super helpful video. Just picked up the RC 2.5” lift/leveling kit for my 2012 grand Cherokee. Any recommendations on installation?
Most likely it’s the same exact deal as mine. Is it just the fronts only? If your mechanically inclined and have the tools, it’s not a bad job. Just plan on doing it during a weekend. Don’t rush and you’ll be golden. Let me know how you make out.
MrV2u there are spacers for the rear strut and shock included in the kit as well, but after going through the instructions it doesn’t seem much different than the front
Do you have to cut the strut bolts to shorten them to make room for the spacers? If you do run a nut down to the bottom so when u cut it all u have to do is back off the nut and it’s easier to clean the threads. Good luck
MrV2u thanks! I’ll let you know how it goes
theycallmejim as a 2012 GC owner, interested how it went??
I just put a 2.5” rough country leveling kit on my Jeep GC and not super happy with how it’s sitting. It sort of looks like it’s leaning back. Do you know if there’s an adjustment or something I could put on the car to make the back sit up just a bit higher? Thanks!
The lift kit is also a leveling kit. It’s made to lift the front higher than the back to make it even brother. Did you measure the height front and back?
@@MrV2u yeah I measured the front and it was sitting at 35.5” and the back is sitting at 35.25”. It’s a very slight difference yet somehow when I look at the car from a distance it looks like it’s leaning. Maybe it’s placebo effect?
@@MrV2u I imagined my Jeep GC would look like the Jeep’s advertised on the rough country video on UA-cam but those jeeps look like they may be sitting higher in the back.
I’ve read somewhere in the forums that there is a rubicon 1/4 inch spacer you can add to the rear ones you put on. I can’t remember off hand where exactly. If you plan on swapping bumpers or adding a winch etc.. I would just leave it as is bro.
Thanks a lot for doing this video. I have a 19 GC Limited, Hemi, tow package(Sachs nivomat shocks) and factory 20" wheels. The rake is exactly 2 inches(33"F, 35"R). I would like to level this thing or at least get it as close as possible. My concern is by altering the front geometry will it shorten the life of some of my front end components? How much does it affect alignment and is there enough adjustability to set to factory spec? This is a daily driver that sees quite a bit of highway use. I want it to look good but I don't want to compromise reliability. Thanks !!
MKE Dan you won’t in anyway damage the front end by leveling it. The leveling kit will level your Jeep for sure brother. It didn’t throw the alignment off and it’s not hard to align to spec at all brother. It rides the same and you won’t feel any difference at all. But when you park next to a stock Jeep you will see the difference. Let me know when you do it how you like it.
Was thinking of installing the Rough Country Spacers on my 17 Jeep GC, will they cause any damage to the suspension? Was told i should replace the struts if i install the spacers.
SilverBack Gorillaz nah you don’t have to replace the struts. Unless there going bad which I doubt being you got a 2017. The spacers don’t do anything to the ride quality or damage anything in any way. Let me know if you go with it and how you make out.
@@MrV2u Awesome, thanks for the advice
How did it take ?
If you’re asking how long it took I’d give it 3-5 hours depending on your ability. If you’re asking how did it turn out it doesn’t drive any different than before the level. Still smooth
nice video man. Had a shop install it for me monday. Will I be able to fit a 265/70/r18 tires without any plastic trimming? Basically a 32.6 x 10.7 tire with no trimming?
It all depends on the rim offset, and tire. You read a lot in forums some say it works some say you might need spacers or punch weld mods. If you know someone in a tire shop have them mount a tire for you and test it out is my best advice. Sorry I couldn’t have solid size numbers for you bro. Let me know how you make out and what you went with. I’m sure a lot of people have the same question.
I run that size without a lift yet but to do anything that articulates the front end, I'd recommend a lift.
With my offset I couldn’t get a 265/70R 17 to fit.
265/60/18 fit mine stock on stock wheels now have the RC lift with 276/65/18 duratracs stock rims at +56ish offset, pinch weld mod and 1.75” wheel spacers. Got new wheels with +0 offset itching to be put on
Kody boss status achieved lol. Going to be standing out in a world of stock WK2’s.
Looks Great! Do you know the biggest tires you can fit with this level? I have 17 inch rims with -6 offset and looking to get bigger tires.
With stock rims it will be 32 to 33 depending on tire brand. With aftermarket rims it’s all different brother.
Great video! Question for you. Which size tires did you go with after the level kit. I will be installing this same kit for my 2019 wk2 and putting 285/70R17 just wondering how big I could go after that 2" level lift? Would 285/70R17 fit on point?
Edgar Arredondo I went with after market rims which pushed my rims out away from the hub. Which limited my choices on the larger tire. If you stay with stock rims you can run 32 inch tires.
I did everything needed. But the front height was very large, more than 8 inches, and I don't know the reason. I used Blisten shock absorbers B8 5100 series
Aren’t those the adjustable shocks? You have to lower them to the height you like brother. I’m about to get those shocks as well. Heard good things about them. Let me know if that works for you and how you like them.
@@MrV2u Actually I don’t if they Adjustable or not I will check and let you know
www.bilstein.com/us/en/product/bilstein-b8-5100-ride-height-adjustable/
I’m driving now but I’ll try and find you instructions if you need. Let me know, I wouldn’t run it at full height. You’ll feel every pebble on the road.
@@MrV2u thanks bro 😎 Thank you very much for the alert. I was going to return everything as it was .... Tomorrow morning I will do an adjustment🙏👏👍
I had one of these installed by a shop on my Grand Cherokee and I am getting a clunk or pop from the suspension when it is articulating and whenever I hit a bump the right way. Seems to be coming from the right side only. Any idea what it might be?
Check your entire front end. It can be anything from a ball joint to a broken sway bar link. Jack up one side at a time grab the wheel and try to rock it side to side and up and down. Should be tight with no play. Was the noise immediately after they installed it? If so take it back.
MrV2u Yes I heard the noise before I even pulled out of the parking lot. I got underneath and everything looks tight. Have an appointment Thursday to have them figure out what it is. Sound really seems to be very intermittent and doesn’t always happen going over bumps.
Abandoned TN check all your bushings on the control arms. Especially the upper control arm. What year Jeep you got? How many miles?
MrV2u It is a 2014 limited with 275/55/20 Nitto’s and 77,xxxx miles.
How could I make the stabilizer bar better on front and rear for a 2011??
Are you having issues with stability? Did you level or lift it ?
Would this work with an overland that has air suspension?
William Brewer you can do it on a air suspension but you will have to modify the rod that controls the air system.
I stilled this one my 15 WK2, only issue I have is that the front is sitting higher than the front. Any recommendations on what went wrong? I have a shop install them for me. Also would installing rear coil spacers work to level it out?
About how many miles you have on the Jeep? Do you take it off roading? Do you carry a lot of weight in it? It’s normal for springs to start sagging some as they age or get used. Maybe the rears are loosing their height some. Mine is still sitting level the way it was when I installed it brother. How many inches is it lower?
@@MrV2u I haven't done that yet and it's been about 30k, I seem in a separate video that people said to let it "settle" but it's still sitting lower on the rear about an inch or less, have yet to measure it.
@@rayben3972 definitely measure it on flat ground. Let me know what you get brother. Your springs shouldn’t be sagging with only 30k.
@@MrV2u oh no my bad, I have 105k on it, but 30k with the lift
105k still isn’t bad. Unless you beat the Jeep up with weight and off roading. But let me know what you get when you do measure it brother. I’ve done many levels and lifts never saw it measure different than what the kit says.
I’m doing this now my cv is not budging
Give it a couple taps from behind it to make it budge. All that holds it in is a c clip. Use a punch if needed. It will pop out.
Damn this thing is still kicking my ass. It ain’t going
@@wilder211 did you try grabbing the shaft and jerking with one strong pull? You can also get it on without pulling the shaft but it’s going to be a fight to do so.
@@MrV2u this is on the drivers side. Do I grab in the middle or where it meet the trans?
@@wilder211 as close as possible to the differential then one or two sharp yanks. If not do it with it in place brother.
Awesome video! So I just called rough country and they said they don't make a 2" lift for my 2018 jeep?! He said they only have the lift kit (which will level the vehicle) 2.5" in the front and 3/4" for the rear.... kit was over $100. Any idea what the deal with that is??
www.roughcountry.com/jeep-suspension-lift-kit-60300.html
That’s the lift kit.
www.roughcountry.com/jeep-suspension-lift-kit-67800.html
That’s the leveling kit I installed.
@@MrV2u Thank you. Yeah I was looking at both... I just want the leveling kit so I'm not changing up too much stuff. I don't think the dude know what he was talking about..so I called back and the next guy basically said "yeah, the leveling kit will work just fine" so I went ahead and ordered it. Thanks again!!
Where did you get the black lug nuts?
Quadratec online brother.
I’m curious where you purchased your kit from, mine Came with the strut spacer and a another spacer to keep from having to cut the strut threads
Mine was direct from rough country. Is it a leveling kit or all around lift kit, they have both.
Are there sounds when you go to a hole or bump?
Not at all, still rides stock.
I own a Jeep Grand Cherokee and I want the air filter
Go for it brother.
Damn that’s a lot of work
For real brother, and I’m thinking of doing it again with another lift front and back. I’m a glutton for headaches lol.
Two years later, how’s the kit working? Did you notice any ride quality or suspension stability issues? Thank you
Absolutely nothing has changed from stock brother. No issues whatsoever. Let me know how you make out on your Jeep brother.
So this does not require a spring compressor?
Not at all.
@@MrV2u ohhh ok. I guess it’s the actual 2.5 inch RC lift kit that requires the spring compressors
@@wilder211 I personally don’t like having my springs under a constant load with the spacer in between the top of the spring and strut. It makes for a harsher ride. The spacer that goes on top like the one I installed in this video doesn’t effect ride quality in any way.
@@MrV2u ohh I see. The actual lift kit comes with that extra plate to put on top of the spring for the front. I just ordered this kit today and will try to tackle this job this week. You made it look super easy. It appears you had ZERO struggle getting bolts loosened lol
My Jeep was fairly new so the bolts weren’t bad to deal with it. Make sure to spray them good with pb blaster or wd40. If anything is frozen and you don’t have impact tools get a breaker bar on it and show it who’s boss. Let me know if you run into anything or need advice brother.
Have you had any problems with the lift kit since you’ve installed?
Cota James nope still doing good. You can’t even tell the difference.
What about ride quality is it exactly the same off road? Or is it a rougher ride and less quality?
It’s exactly the same as stock on or off road. The only way to tell the difference is by looking at it next to a stock Jeep. Lol
So I have a jeep grand cherokee 2015 I want to put bigger tires and bigger wheel what do I need to install so they can fit perfectly fine . I'm thinking a 20"
Yovani Botello first I would lift the Jeep, Depending on what you want to do, such as off roading or just for looks. The lift determines the tire size, also the bigger the tire the more gas you consume as well as poorer performance unless you got a 8 cylinder. With my leveling kit and rims I just put on I can safely put a 32-33 inch tire on it. Also the bigger the rim the lower the profile tire you’d have to run with. I stayed with 17 inch rims so I can have as much tire as possible on it. Hope that answers some of your questions if not let me know so I can answer more.
@@MrV2u ok .yeah I want more tire so I'll just keep it at 17 and yes I only want it for looks . Is the gas a big difference if I put a 33 tires?
Yovani Botello you’ll loose about 2-3 mpg. I’m going with 265/70R17 Goodyear duratrac tire. That comes out to about a 32.5 inch tire. Good looks and it’s good tire for slight mud, rain, ice and snow. I had it on my old Jeep and it handled everything flawlessly. It’s one of the few tires that is snow and ice rated. It also has long thread life which is another thing to be concerned about. You can do what I did in this video and you’ll be good to go. 2 inch leveling kit from rough country. If you want to go bigger then you’ll have to get a 2 -2 1/2 inch lift all around.
@@MrV2u do I need to do anything for the back tires?
Not if you run that size I said. It will bolt on no problem. Check out the rough country website.
What would this cost to install?
It’s going to be the labor rate times 3-6 hours labor time. Depending on the rate I’m assuming 300-600 ballpark. If your handy and have some basic tools you can knock it out in a weekend.
Are the strut bolts too short after cutting them if you wanted to take it out and return to stock?
Honestly brother I’m pretty sure it will be short. But with just a level your not really doing much to make you regret it. You won’t damage anything nor change any ride quality. Hope that helps brother if you attempt to do it and have any questions I’m always around for advice.
Could I fit 33” tires on my 2012 grand Cherokee after installing this 2” leveling kit? If not, what do you think the max size tire would be after the kits installed?
According to rough country. 265/70R17. Which is basically a 32 inch tire. That’s what I’m going to roll with. Anything bigger you will need spacers and pinch weld mods. I’m also going with Goodyear duratracs. There awesome tires. Long lasting and good all around.
I've got a stock wk2 with 265/70/17 falken at3w. Installing a 2 inch leveling kit soon and going to a 285/70/17.
Did you have to do a pinch weld mod or add spacers? How is it lock to lock?
No pinch weld mod, no spacers, turns lock to lock with no scrubbing at all. It's tight but no modifications were done
Might try 285/70 as well then. But I’m pretty sure you’ll need to do a pinch weld and or spacers. The upper ball joint stud is going to be a issue for sure.
Coming back to this vid after about 3 months. Installing another leveling kit on another GC(2012). I’m running into problems removing the front axles, any tips?
You just got to man handle it. Try to get a pry bar behind it and pry it loose. It should come out with a sharp pull. Be careful not to crack the cast housing where it goes into the differential. Let me know how you make out brother.
What type of bolt hold the caliper bracket?
11mm hex. 10mm will work but then it will get stuck and you’d have to knock it back the other way.
I'd be pissed not getting the 2" that you paid for.
It does sit level though brother.