Good video John , i got high believe on anker brand , over 10 years ago one of my ex bought me a portable phone charger and that thing got dropped many times including high-speed and is still working like the day i got it , is all scratch up and corners missing part of it but that thing won't die.
I like Anker, even reached out for pricing and they never replied. The problem I see with them is they are the only one in the group you compare to that doesn't integrate with Span. I also like the price transparency of Tesla. Keeping the price hidden seems to be designed to allow the installer to make higher profit margins.
Hello Alex, appreciate your comment. You are right, there are a whole lot of batteries with similar value proposition. My beef with all of them is their limited availability, limited distribution and spotty service. Batteries and solar are a very long game and I am excited that Anker a giant in the field has launched a product after making some really big investments. I advise my viewers to buy stuff that will be reliably serviced after 10 years. Thanks again.
@MySolarHomeUSA thanks for the response. Disagree with your comment of availability, limited distribution and sporty service, there are many off grid and grid tie users that successfully uses those brands. I do think you have tried at least once, i may be mistaking. Remember that brand names came with brand name price tags. Big Price tag means big revenue for installers too.
@@alexherrera3918 I am glad we are having this exchange. I am guilty of being partial to big brands. After 15 years in this solar industry, I have seen a lot of really good battery manufacturers go out of business. The brands you mention are actually great products. I have tested some of them. The problem with this industry is scale. If you don't have scale, survival becomes an issue. Franklin started small like EG4 and the other and it jumped the chasm. I hope some of the other do too. And big brands fail too, look at the Generac battery, its a disaster. However, deeper pockets with a good product might translate to longevity. And that is what I like to recommend. For DIY folks, big brands are a big No No. They are much more expensive as you correctly said. If you can do the install and maintenance yourself, you are much better of building the systems with separate Lithium Ion Batteries, Charge Controllers and Inverters or going with brands like EG4 or Sol-Ark. I am rooting for a few other Batteries to hit the big time to challenge the Big 4. Have a great day.
Ecoworthy is cheaper per klw, i been happy with those batteries and i prefer to deal each separate around 260 to 350ah max at 12.8v so not to heavy and if one goes shit I can replace it and move it around. Series to parallel and bms on each , something goes wrong and i don't have to move around 200lbs, yes those ecoworthy can't have more than 4s to 4p and totalling about 53 to 57 klw around that , you can do more on those big ones 48v but something goes wrong and lost a lot probably.
By the time you get it paid off, it doesn't work anymore and it may burn your house down. Be sure you run the numbers. None of Home Battery Backup System's make financial sense yet.
You are corrrect. But, you are not looking at it right. A battery is not like solar. A battery, mostly, does not earn you money. So you cannot have a payback period. The payback period I refer to is when you look at solar + battery. Then there is payback and that is about 3 to 4 more years as compered to regular solar. Buying a battery is like buying an range or a washing machine. They are useful but dont save you money. Thanks for watching.
@@MySolarHomeUSA What I have is a natural gas and/or propane generator setup for emergencies. That cost me very little, much less than the current price of batteries and useful if I ever need it. There are many improvements in solar batteries coming online in the near future and the pricing will drop just like computers did. So I will continue looking at this issue the wrong way and save myself many thousands of dollars.
@@RP-le1fp 😄You put it very nicely. I think it makes sense for most people who don't stay in CA, NV or other non net metered states to continue to use gas generators and save themselves a lot of money.
cool info! thanks
Glad it was helpful!
Where would you rank the evault from fortress?
I have not done a deep dive, but I do like Fortress the company. They are slowly building scale. Thanks for watching
Good video John , i got high believe on anker brand , over 10 years ago one of my ex bought me a portable phone charger and that thing got dropped many times including high-speed and is still working like the day i got it , is all scratch up and corners missing part of it but that thing won't die.
That’s great, it seems like Anker makes some pretty tough products. Let’s hope this carries over to their home battery products!
@MySolarHomeUSA hopefully!
I like Anker, even reached out for pricing and they never replied. The problem I see with them is they are the only one in the group you compare to that doesn't integrate with Span. I also like the price transparency of Tesla. Keeping the price hidden seems to be designed to allow the installer to make higher profit margins.
I might be able to help you with an Anker quote. Drop me an email jon@mysolarhome.us Thanks for watching
Misleading video, there are many more options, cheaper per KWh, EG4 or Ruixu.
Hello Alex, appreciate your comment. You are right, there are a whole lot of batteries with similar value proposition. My beef with all of them is their limited availability, limited distribution and spotty service. Batteries and solar are a very long game and I am excited that Anker a giant in the field has launched a product after making some really big investments. I advise my viewers to buy stuff that will be reliably serviced after 10 years. Thanks again.
@MySolarHomeUSA thanks for the response. Disagree with your comment of availability, limited distribution and sporty service, there are many off grid and grid tie users that successfully uses those brands. I do think you have tried at least once, i may be mistaking.
Remember that brand names came with brand name price tags. Big Price tag means big revenue for installers too.
@@alexherrera3918 I am glad we are having this exchange. I am guilty of being partial to big brands. After 15 years in this solar industry, I have seen a lot of really good battery manufacturers go out of business. The brands you mention are actually great products. I have tested some of them. The problem with this industry is scale. If you don't have scale, survival becomes an issue. Franklin started small like EG4 and the other and it jumped the chasm. I hope some of the other do too. And big brands fail too, look at the Generac battery, its a disaster. However, deeper pockets with a good product might translate to longevity. And that is what I like to recommend. For DIY folks, big brands are a big No No. They are much more expensive as you correctly said. If you can do the install and maintenance yourself, you are much better of building the systems with separate Lithium Ion Batteries, Charge Controllers and Inverters or going with brands like EG4 or Sol-Ark. I am rooting for a few other Batteries to hit the big time to challenge the Big 4. Have a great day.
Ecoworthy is cheaper per klw, i been happy with those batteries and i prefer to deal each separate around 260 to 350ah max at 12.8v so not to heavy and if one goes shit I can replace it and move it around.
Series to parallel and bms on each , something goes wrong and i don't have to move around 200lbs, yes those ecoworthy can't have more than 4s to 4p and totalling about 53 to 57 klw around that , you can do more on those big ones 48v but something goes wrong and lost a lot probably.
By the time you get it paid off, it doesn't work anymore and it may burn your house down. Be sure you run the numbers. None of Home Battery Backup System's make financial sense yet.
You are corrrect. But, you are not looking at it right. A battery is not like solar. A battery, mostly, does not earn you money. So you cannot have a payback period. The payback period I refer to is when you look at solar + battery. Then there is payback and that is about 3 to 4 more years as compered to regular solar. Buying a battery is like buying an range or a washing machine. They are useful but dont save you money. Thanks for watching.
@@MySolarHomeUSA What I have is a natural gas and/or propane generator setup for emergencies. That cost me very little, much less than the current price of batteries and useful if I ever need it. There are many improvements in solar batteries coming online in the near future and the pricing will drop just like computers did. So I will continue looking at this issue the wrong way and save myself many thousands of dollars.
@@RP-le1fp 😄You put it very nicely. I think it makes sense for most people who don't stay in CA, NV or other non net metered states to continue to use gas generators and save themselves a lot of money.