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Yes your math simply blows away all technological concerns. At those prices solar is just a no brainer. Thanks for watching and commenting.

Glad this was helpful. Where are you located? I might be able to give you a quote from a partner company as well. If interested, please email sales@mysolarhome.us Thank you for watching.

Your assessment is correct. ROI for DIY is much better. Though its between 6 to 10 years for a professionally installed system. DIY systems have their own challenges. You have to be very handy and skilled to troubleshoot and maintain it. Not an option for most folks. Thanks for watching and your comment.

Fortunately solar panels produce enough during the summer months to offset these no sun days. Check out my video on how this works ua-cam.com/video/4MQwaUrgtOc/v-deo.html

Installing solar involves safety concerns. Those panels are connected to the electrical grid and any mistakes can cause a fire. The other issue is poorly installed panels will fly off during wind events. So there is a fair reason for a permit. But unfortunately, many townships tack on large permit fees. Thanks for watching.

@@MySolarHomeUSA but those aren't reason at all.. i never said i should install it myself, of course you need professionals doing the job.. what i asked is why should i ask for permission???? Its like if i need a permission to ride a car , you take a driving license and you drive, and you can kill people while doing so.. but for panels i have to ask for "permission?" i just can't get why

@@WastedTalent83@ WastedTalent83 The permit is like a license. You don't need permission to install solar. You just have to prove that you installed solar correctly and safely. Professional installers get this certification / permit approval done as part of the job.

@@MySolarHomeUSA aaaah ok , because when people use the word "permit" it sound like it can be denied without a proper reason. But if the only problem is like "not safe place or the roof is weak etc" i understand that.. ok thanks for clearing it up^^

Mainly in order to export power and to be able to get reimbursed for the exported power. There are some “zero-export” systems that have been done without permitting. You could “maybe” do that if you wished. It would however extend your payback time substantially. You will likely not reach “net-zero” that way. A bigger battery bank could mean investing thousands more. Will likely need to sign off on some waivers with your contractor. Make sure that your contractor does excellent work even when it does not get inspected. If you are OK with all those considerations. Then go ahead! After all, just like you said. It is your property. 😊

Free Speech is both good and bad. Fortunately, more good than bad. Thanks for watching.

They will be charged like any regular batteries. Using solar panels or using regular electric company power when available. Thanks for watching.

@@MySolarHomeUSA But there is too little grid capacity, my last bum govictator closed indian point NR in nys

Oh Yes. Deciding to give the grid a pass is definitely the way to go if you have the skills to do it yourself. Here in the US there aren't many pros who will build off grid solutions for you. Thanks for watching.

@@MySolarHomeUSA I will still use the grid as backup. We have no fixed connection fees here, all those are included the variable fees. That results in high variable rates, so saving on consumption makes a big difference. There are installers here who only do off grid installations as there are places without grid connection. I've considered to have a transfer switch installed and use an off grid installation (which is cheaper than hybrid), but a hybrid installation offers a more seamless experience. I hope.

@@GerbenWulff That's so interesting. And I agree, having the option of grid backup is always preferable to going completely off-grid.

Thank you Doug. Always good to hear from you.

You mean solar panels and a battery. I could help. Email solar@mysolarhome.us . Thanks for watching.

Super. Glad it worked out for you.

DIY is the way to go. Unfortunately not everyone has the chops to take that route. Thanks for watching.

Thanks for watching.

Thanks for watching.

@@MySolarHomeUSA solar can be very nice but not all can instal it

You have a valid opinion and it is shared by many. However, the majority of homeowners are equally concerned about the financial benefits of going solar and they are likely to look a the battery with a more immediate lens of savings. Thanks for watching and commenting.

Yes, with a an unreliable grid, a battery is a life saver. Thank you for watching.

Thank you for your feedback. I have had a lot of folks asking for captions as well. So I am a little conflicted.

Most certainly. Having a battery is a great option for many folks and you look like one of them. Thanks for watching.

@@MySolarHomeUSA 👍 my pleasure!

You make a good point about the opportunity cost of using battery storage instead of selling power to the grid.

some thing people do not know the battery power DC is the same as a plus 21.7 % AC. and your utility power is in fact DC were they made AC from DC you can connect in serie AV is DC / hz

Yes, cheaper for sure. But, just a little noisy, a lot of maintenance and polluting.

California is not a net metering state. California has net billing - your excess solar electricity gets you about 20% of retail rates. This is under the new NEM 3 regulations that govern most of the largest CA utilities. LADWP has true Net Metering but none of the other big electric companies.

@ Thanks. I have Solar and I do know that I am getting ripped off by the state for what they take and give in return.

Thanks for sharing your experience and insights. It's definitely not a one-size-fits-all solution. My advice for battery backup is go for an essentials backup solution; no 240 volt appliances, just the regular fridge freezer lights TV internet and anything 120 volts. That is usually possible to do with one 13.5kwh battery or two if you want extended backup. That would keep costs down to below 50k for solar plus battery fully installed. If you go DIY I'd guess you could do it at 20 or 25kw. Again costs depend on the installer. There are a lot of price gougers out there who would charge you 70k for the same setup. And thanks again for your comprehensive comment. Good stuff.

You must be my neighbor because we have about the same situation.. Brown outs every week, power outs every month and a deregulated grid at times charge the heck out of you per KWH.. We lost over a 10 year period of time a fridge, freezer, washer motor, dryer motor, 2x furnace motors, well pump, 3x computer power supplies, 1 two way radio power supply, 2 TV sets and a few other odd and end things because they were running when we had brown outs and we didn't notice or we were not home at the time.. So the deluxe solar inverter I have can build up the brown power by adding power from the battery bank, act as a UPS and just take over or supply power when the solar panels are making it and the battery is over 60% charged.. The cost of all those damaged/destroyed home electronics has cost us close to $10k over those years so having a system that cost me $18k will save me the loss for decades to come.. Paying $600 a year for grid power instead of $1,500 puts $900 toward the installation cost so in 10 years of ownership it will pay for itself..

Running out and firing up the generator and switching over is something I will not miss.. This was the before the solar system solution which drove me to solar.. They now have voltage good/bad devices that can be installed between the meter panel and the main panel which will just shut off the power if you get half off or brown conditions for about $40 which I see as a good safety device for homeowners that are OK with being off and saving the home electronics/appliances..

Wow, those are such mouth watering numbers. I wish solar and battery prices were the same here as in Oz. Thanks for sharing. The sun does shine brigher in Australia. Thanks for watching and commenting.

There is a lot of misinformation LOL.

I bought 120kWh for 10K

What cells are you buying?

I agree. But, DIY skills are pretty rare. You are among a sliver of people who have the interest and the skillset to design and build your own energy storage systems. Remember, it only looks and feels easy for the folks who actually do it, like you. For the rest, it is very difficult and they have to go the route of getting it installed. Thanks for sharing.

I built a 30+ KW LiFePo4 battery bank for just over $4k out of EVE 300a cells which replaced an 8 cell L-16 lead acid battery bank.. All I can say is wow, 5x the storage and I can charge them at a higher rate which makes better use of the 7kwh x 7 hours my panels can produce in the Summer.. Set them up late Summer 2024 so I did not get their full punch but 2025 should be amazing and I look forward to those State minimum bills of $30.. They snuck through a law in Ohio that bans net meter, forces digital meters and a fee if you have solar as part of a deregulation of grid power.. The reason we have the big battery is because as rural grid customers we often suffer from brief to long brown outs or outages and having that battery online all the time means I don't have to run out and turn on the generator several times in a week for short bad grid events.. The large number of 5kw 12v batteries that have hit the market in the past 6 months is astounding.. Some series or parallel well and some do not depending on their built in BMS.. Have seen several people who have opened the plastic boxes done a series parallel scheme and replaced the cheap BMS with a better one that does 48v and built a monster battery with the bargain cells..

@@MySolarHomeUSA That is where the stackable 5kw or 15kw prebuilt boxes fill the gap, 48v 5kw boxes for under $1k and 15kw boxes for under $2.5k shipped to your door.. Then it is just a matter of running cables and connecting boxes.. If you can't do that then you pay an electrician or the solar installer to do it.. The cheapest route these days is the 5kw 12v batteries for about $200 each then wiring a bunch together to make any size battery you want.. I built my 30+kw 55v battery bank out of high grade EVE cells and JK BMS controllers because yes I built industrial control panels and installed my own solar setup..

Thats good to know. I am working with someone in Texas who alerted me to the extra delivery charges. Effectively, the utility is buying your solar electricity at 7 cents. Not as good as full on net metering, but still a good deal. Thanks for sharing.

Be careful because new 2025 rules in several States lets the power company charge you both ways for grid transportation fees.. This will reduce that 1 to1 out and in to a point you may see zero benefit to pushing power onto the grid.. At that point battery storage will be the way to go especially with the price drop in LiFePo4 batteries for now.. Tariffs to be implemented in a month will raise prices on Chinese cells/batteries by 50% as all solar from China is already being taxed high..

That is true, but only for a little bit. The batteries run out of power quickly unless you have solar panels to keep recharging them.

@@MySolarHomeUSA Who are these people buying a battery without panels?

@@TheSmiddy lots of them in my country. With current payback time of 5 years. Different earning model.

@@MySolarHomeUSA Or just pump the battery up with a 3kW generator when power outages last long enough for that to be a problem. If the generator will never be used for anything other than charging a 48V battery, you could even re-wire it for direct 48-60Vdc output to skip DC-AC-DC conversion losses from using an inverter-generator.

​@@MySolarHomeUSAUkraina 😂

Excellent analysis and thanks for sharing your setup with my viewers. As prices comes down, we should be able to do your Ecoflow replacement with an Enphase or Telsa at the same prices you bought the Ecoflow. Everyone should be going solar.

Out of the US it's a lot cheaper too, I installed a 20kWh emphase system including solar for 10k euro's.

In my area of Northeast Ohio the minimum connect fee is $30 a month which is mostly deregulation taxes, State community security tax which gives free or reduced bills to disabled sick and elderly.. We also pay a privilege fee because we have solar and transmission line maintenance fee even though the power company will not repair our service drop or meter can for free or a reduced cost if they get damaged that insurance costs extra.. So we try our best to use that minimum power so we are not paying for nothing in the Summer.. Now you can get a factory made in a steel stackable box a 15kw 48v/52.2v battery for around $2,500 delivered to your door.. A bit over 5 years ago I paid over$3,500 for an 8 cel L-16 lead battery that had a useable capacity of barely 5kw.. This past Summer I built a 30kw LiFePo4 battery bank for a bit over $4k which has 5x the energy storage and I am very pleased with it from what I saw in a short time.. This Spring to Fall will be great because in the past during the longer days we had more power than we could use and it was wasted during the day and we would run out of battery at night.. Now I will even be able to heat hot water at night and run the washer and dryer..

I’m glad you found it helpful! Happy New Year.

I appreciate the positive feedback and yes, the video is about the typical way solar is used at night.

True that works. Very expensive though 😊

Glad you liked it

I have been getting a few of these comments. Looks like you expected solar panels that work at night. My intent was to show how solar panels provide solar electricity to cover night time electricity usage. Its difficult to communicate this in a few words. Apologies.

You are corrrect. But, you are not looking at it right. A battery is not like solar. A battery, mostly, does not earn you money. So you cannot have a payback period. The payback period I refer to is when you look at solar + battery. Then there is payback and that is about 3 to 4 more years as compered to regular solar. Buying a battery is like buying an range or a washing machine. They are useful but dont save you money. Thanks for watching.

@@MySolarHomeUSA What I have is a natural gas and/or propane generator setup for emergencies. That cost me very little, much less than the current price of batteries and useful if I ever need it. There are many improvements in solar batteries coming online in the near future and the pricing will drop just like computers did. So I will continue looking at this issue the wrong way and save myself many thousands of dollars.

@@RP-le1fp 😄You put it very nicely. I think it makes sense for most people who don't stay in CA, NV or other non net metered states to continue to use gas generators and save themselves a lot of money.

It seems like the title raised your expectations for solar panels that work at night, my apologies, that was not the intent. As you can see my video is about harnessing solar energy either using a battery or the net metering program to get solar to cover a home's night time energy usage. A lot of folks don't go solar as they think the solar panels wont work at night and what's the point of having something that does not work half the time? It is among the most common questions I get asked. Its difficult to explain and I thought this video would help. Thanks for your comment and I hope you will give me a little creative leeway to get folks to go through a topic that is at the heart of using solar panels.

You are correct, with one controller you can go upt to 4 powerwalls. But you can always add more controller units if you need more battery capacity. That is what I was referring to. Thanks for watching.

It is a possiblity. But, I am hoping he wont repeal it. There are a lot of folks who like solar and he might concentrate on other stuff. Keeping my fingers crossed. And if you are thinking of going solar, do it now.

Thank you. So glad it was helpful.

Tesla Powerwall 3 is expensive if you compare against a system that does not require batteries. If you compare against solar and battery, then it is as you say, fairly reasonable. I did not talk about panel diodes in this video - thats too much detail for an abridged guide. Thanks for your feedback.

Hey Thanks Ryan, How are you? Happy Holidays my friend.

Hi Robert, You dont have to change your inverter at all. Get a battery like the old Tesla Powerwall or Franklin. Those can be installed with your existing solar inverter without any problem. The new Tesla Powerwall 3 wont work. The old Tesla Powewall is fine, though i dont think it has generator connectivity. I think you would be better off with the Franklin Battery. Best of Luck

I have not done a deep dive, but I do like Fortress the company. They are slowly building scale. Thanks for watching

I might be able to help you with an Anker quote. Drop me an email jon@mysolarhome.us Thanks for watching

That’s great, it seems like Anker makes some pretty tough products. Let’s hope this carries over to their home battery products!

​@MySolarHomeUSA hopefully!

Hello Alex, appreciate your comment. You are right, there are a whole lot of batteries with similar value proposition. My beef with all of them is their limited availability, limited distribution and spotty service. Batteries and solar are a very long game and I am excited that Anker a giant in the field has launched a product after making some really big investments. I advise my viewers to buy stuff that will be reliably serviced after 10 years. Thanks again.

@MySolarHomeUSA thanks for the response. Disagree with your comment of availability, limited distribution and sporty service, there are many off grid and grid tie users that successfully uses those brands. I do think you have tried at least once, i may be mistaking. Remember that brand names came with brand name price tags. Big Price tag means big revenue for installers too.

@@alexherrera3918 I am glad we are having this exchange. I am guilty of being partial to big brands. After 15 years in this solar industry, I have seen a lot of really good battery manufacturers go out of business. The brands you mention are actually great products. I have tested some of them. The problem with this industry is scale. If you don't have scale, survival becomes an issue. Franklin started small like EG4 and the other and it jumped the chasm. I hope some of the other do too. And big brands fail too, look at the Generac battery, its a disaster. However, deeper pockets with a good product might translate to longevity. And that is what I like to recommend. For DIY folks, big brands are a big No No. They are much more expensive as you correctly said. If you can do the install and maintenance yourself, you are much better of building the systems with separate Lithium Ion Batteries, Charge Controllers and Inverters or going with brands like EG4 or Sol-Ark. I am rooting for a few other Batteries to hit the big time to challenge the Big 4. Have a great day.

Ecoworthy is cheaper per klw, i been happy with those batteries and i prefer to deal each separate around 260 to 350ah max at 12.8v so not to heavy and if one goes shit I can replace it and move it around. Series to parallel and bms on each , something goes wrong and i don't have to move around 200lbs, yes those ecoworthy can't have more than 4s to 4p and totalling about 53 to 57 klw around that , you can do more on those big ones 48v but something goes wrong and lost a lot probably.

Glad it was helpful!

China has developed manufacturing expertise that is probably is the best in the world. They have also decided to focus on renewable technology big time with the state supporting their every move. So yes competing against Chinese manufacturing is an uphill task. Thanks for watching

Yes, net metering is no longer available in CA and it is being phased out in a few more states like Illinois as well. Solar and a battery are the best bet in those locations. Kits from Solar companies are always way cheaper than getting a solar company to install your system. However, you have to be a fairly good electrician to install a high voltage DC system safely. And maintenance will be your responsibility. If you are very handy and able to maintain the system, it is by far the best route. Most homeowners in the US dont have the required skills and they have to depend on solar installers. Thank you for watching and commenting.