Moira might be one of the smartest characters in Warcraft she realizes she can get the player characters to do anything she wants by promising treasure in a dungeon
Do you think Ragnaros says "Taste the flames of Sulfuron!" because he's actually a BBQ enthusiast, and we just misunderstand him out of our greed to take his loot?
The whole "misunderstood monsters" part is great. Everyone of a set of people fights in a war for their people, not because they're some evil creature. Marvelous bit of lore right there, thanks for that.
I watch ALOT of WoW lore videos and i gotta say these videos really stand out and are really entertaining!! The comedy and editing/animation are really unique and do a great job of setting themselves in there own style than lore videos from people like Nobble Nixiom and MadSeason! Keep it up :) subbed, liked, and bell has been rung son!!
I know this is about Blackrock Mountain but the Dark Irons' efforts won't entirely wasted on Grim Batol. Mogdud happened to have Xal'Atath (the shadowpriest dagger that was used to set Nzoth free but then later kill him) and used its power to corrupt it and that's why Wildhammers are shaman and live in hobbit houses.
IDK if that bit about her leaking that MC was full of epic loot is true but it works so well. "they killed my husband for loot? I know just how to fix this..."
That is actual lore - she basically employed adventurer's for free to solve her Firelord in the basement problem. If only her husband had thought of doing that while he was alive...
There used to be a complex quest path you could take to *not* kill Moira, this was part of the very long questline to unlock Molten Core, because by default in the dungeon BRD she fights alongside him and dies resulting in a different ending if you then proceeded to hand in the quest after (this was the default ending), you had to do a long questline and do certain actions within the dungeon to make sure he is defended by a priestess instead of Moira, most players just cheesed it and tried to kill him without doing damage to her which was a painful process since she healed him the whole time during the fight, you basically had to out damage her healing and grind down the boss. After which a mysterious figure shows up and offers the player a new quest which offered an alternate ending to the events which this time *required* you to keep her alive. If you succeeded the first time you didn't get this quest. Players often did both because the second quest awarded EXP and 5 gold (which was worth it at the time). This triggered an in game world event which played out where she returned to her father and proclaimed that she was now the ruler of the Black Iron Dwarves and was there to proclaim a formal peace treaty, this unlocked the MC attunement as she gives you a flaming core key used to access the entrance via the external portal, no longer requiring individual groups of 5 to enter and form a raid via the dungeon. I remember a lot of people got trolled by their parties without their parties even realising this by killing Moira thus messing up their quest chain to unlock MC. When the attunement system was removed just before BC released it was changed to MC being unlocked as soon as you finished the dungeon and clicked on the portal and rescuing Moira became a side quest and she no longer came to the aid of Dagran during the fight and from that point onwards it was always the priestess.
The Cho-gall negotiation thing is a later retcon in Chronicles 2. Originally the Horde just busted in and pushed the Dark Irons into the depths. Which explained why they were at war with each other in Classic a lot better. I think my friend said Chronicle 3 doesn't even MENTION them being at war with each other.
I mean... that wouldn't have made much sense lore-wise though, since Dark Iron dwarves are literally enemies of Ironforge/Bronzebeard dwarves, so just having them jump around in the dwarven starting zone would be... curious, to say the least.
1:55 the council of seven powerful spell casters when there are some thats a Tank, Arms Warrior, and Rogue when you kill their ghosts in BRM.... probably why they ended up summon the wrong thing but Ragnaros
So when Azeroth faced annihilation by an elemental force of destruction - they basically just outsourced the problem, and didn't even have to pay for it.
@@dirkdiggler8093 I mean he was using later Retail Era lore for the Cho'Gall negotiation part, it could be super vanilla purists who don't like that retcon who are angry.
I just love how engaging these videos are. I watched this video not too long ago, and watched it again today and is still as engaging as the first time
Interesting note the rare Dire Troll outside of BRD got a model update in BFA that makes it look like he's made of stone, so maybe he was a golem designed to spy on the Dark Horde by imitating one of the Smotherthorn or Firetree Dire Trolls.
Note: your thumbnail has a redline on the bottom, it makes it look like the video has already been watched, I did not click your video for 4 days until I realized I still havent watched it.
Dark Horde, Darkiron Dwarves. Not very subtle about who is evil in Warcraft huh If they have dark skin, they're evil. Pretty awkward implications there
I just found you man, and shoot, keep up the lore vids. You make it fun to watch with all the good info :) a lot of other lore peeps, it’s just boring lore hahah
Yeah right, i'm not buying that Moira act. The guy has been trying to conspirate the way out for its people, instead of begging for the other clans to help, which would honestly be the only course of action when your entire people is enslaved to a primal deity of litteral fire. Buuut noooo, instead let's soil the memory of the City main benefactor, and add injury to insult by attempting to blow up its second piece of work, let's also assure the victory of the undead forsaken up north by cutting supply lines, let's ally ourselves with the twilight hammer. His course of action was pretty close to the worst thing he could even bring up, and he did anyway.
Dude i discover you channel and you ate fucking genius the edit of vids are briliant ita more enjoying listen lore and sometimes good jokes and memes ❤️
8:03-8:12 wow, this is the fisrt time I see a succubus fall in love of a mortal, it's usually the way, if you know what I mean hehe (͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) Nah but being serious, this is the firstime I see something like this, is there more stories like that one in wow?
I love how the Wildhammer were exiled from Khaz Modan JUST LIKE THE DARK IRON and for some reason the later decided to attack them as well for no weason whatsoever I mean, its hard to defend seriously
Last I checked the wildhammers were so traumatized by the events in grim batol/rags summoning they never wanted to live underground again so they moved to places like the twighlight Highlands and the hinterlands and lived above ground?
Now that is this very impressive video in all regards, thank you so much for such quality content. I am looking forward to study more personally visiting that place. Thank you.
I came here looking for an explanation for the big rocky 'heart' suspended in chains in the center of the Blackrock Mountain. I always thought it a perculiar construction and never new of its purpose - until now - the resting place of the architect of the Shadowforge City. Thanks for the video, much appreciated!
Very nice job man. Takes a huge amount of time to get that all together I am sure. People like yourself keep classic WOW alive. Great job man! Love your stuff. :)
Brd city is so fucking huge and massive i love being there. Just look how many power they have - you don't wanna mess with them. THat's maybe bigger than DM in feralas , also dwarfs have lbrs/ubrs with BWL and i sure the throne where nefarion sit and relax was dwarf king place. Aslo i love watching at grim batol it's so fucking misterios
Thats awesome. One of these days I wanna full clear Blackrock as I've never gotten to the end. Thats cool I was wondering how Moira was the leader of the Dark Iron when I finally unlocked my Dark Iron Dwarf.
Man the difference with this mountain from retail and classic is night & day. Retail you just go dungeon finder and attempt to do the quests and get forced to cheese the dungeon by using the drill machine to fineous darkvire. When I went into classic, my guild master walked me through the entire dungeon showing all bosses and secrets and the lore.
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I made the sounds at 8:12 with a bowl of spaghetti.
Thanks, I totally needed this info.
Wise choice
So you can't "show that" but you can write about it? You sick fu...
Yeeaaah..., Right.
There’s vomit on his shirt already..
TFW you watch the vid and then all of the sudde... A RICH THORIUM VEIN UNTOUTCHED REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE 3:47
it caught my eye instantly. my fingers started twitching.
@@mojolotz green crack
@@jos1613 arcane crystal meth
That sweet sweet green sticky icky
and @3:02
5:49 dude you cannot do that. That gives people ptsd.
6:52 that chainmail looks like fishnet stockings on female Dark Iron dwarves.
Or maybe I just need to take my mind out of the gutter.
how can he put the dwarf animations in a video?
you mean to say, the dark iron dwarfs doing all that bad stuff is because IT WENT INTO THE BOOOOOK!?
so adventures invasion on molten core was acually moira doing?
Friendly reminder, the next time you're feeling down for something stupid you did, just remember. The Dark Iron Dwarfs summoned Ragnaros by accident.
Lol stoopid dwarvez
@Headthief101 2 years late but ima make the joke anyways. that was by accident?
Just like Millhouse Manastorm summoning Jaraxxus by accident.
Moira might be one of the smartest characters in Warcraft she realizes she can get the player characters to do anything she wants by promising treasure in a dungeon
She's kinda metagaming but she's awesome
She also fixed the dark iron reputation.
Do you think Ragnaros says "Taste the flames of Sulfuron!" because he's actually a BBQ enthusiast, and we just misunderstand him out of our greed to take his loot?
Yes
5star chef Ragnaros.
Michelin Star Ragnaros
Also explains his "Die! Insects!" Line because he is trying to get bugs out of whatever he is grilling.
@@Preacher_. Gorden Ragnarossy
The whole "misunderstood monsters" part is great. Everyone of a set of people fights in a war for their people, not because they're some evil creature. Marvelous bit of lore right there, thanks for that.
What about their prisoners who they torture daily?
@Username no, we want them evil and scary in our video games just not reality lol
@Username You sound like the kind of person that can turn any kind of conversation into a political debate. Good job...
But how is it possible he wasn't, you know, CORRUPTED
@@Czesnek hey whats a few warcrimes for breakfast?
I watch ALOT of WoW lore videos and i gotta say these videos really stand out and are really entertaining!! The comedy and editing/animation are really unique and do a great job of setting themselves in there own style than lore videos from people like Nobble Nixiom and MadSeason! Keep it up :) subbed, liked, and bell has been rung son!!
like that one time in shrek. its important to be able to reference shrek when ever applicable. nicely done.
Blackrock is hardcore
I mean it's a constant Duking out between elementals and dwarfs VS. Dragons and orcs. What did you expect?
How do you get a Dwarf on the roof?
You tell him drinks are on the house!
no.
Yes.
Okay, that made me laugh. You've earned my like.
Look at me!
This is my joke now!!
9:58 _Nothin personnel kid_
So you only need Chili Powder, Sriracha sauce and the sacrifice of an innocent life to summon Ragnaros?
*_Ferb, I know what we're gonna do today!_*
LOL
9:40 and they called their child Stockholm Syndrome Junior
2:32 kills me every time hahaha
What is this meme called
I know this is about Blackrock Mountain but the Dark Irons' efforts won't entirely wasted on Grim Batol. Mogdud happened to have Xal'Atath (the shadowpriest dagger that was used to set Nzoth free but then later kill him) and used its power to corrupt it and that's why Wildhammers are shaman and live in hobbit houses.
IDK if that bit about her leaking that MC was full of epic loot is true but it works so well. "they killed my husband for loot? I know just how to fix this..."
That is actual lore - she basically employed adventurer's for free to solve her Firelord in the basement problem. If only her husband had thought of doing that while he was alive...
@@Amoreyna she was always the smartest honestly.
There used to be a complex quest path you could take to *not* kill Moira, this was part of the very long questline to unlock Molten Core, because by default in the dungeon BRD she fights alongside him and dies resulting in a different ending if you then proceeded to hand in the quest after (this was the default ending), you had to do a long questline and do certain actions within the dungeon to make sure he is defended by a priestess instead of Moira, most players just cheesed it and tried to kill him without doing damage to her which was a painful process since she healed him the whole time during the fight, you basically had to out damage her healing and grind down the boss. After which a mysterious figure shows up and offers the player a new quest which offered an alternate ending to the events which this time *required* you to keep her alive. If you succeeded the first time you didn't get this quest. Players often did both because the second quest awarded EXP and 5 gold (which was worth it at the time).
This triggered an in game world event which played out where she returned to her father and proclaimed that she was now the ruler of the Black Iron Dwarves and was there to proclaim a formal peace treaty, this unlocked the MC attunement as she gives you a flaming core key used to access the entrance via the external portal, no longer requiring individual groups of 5 to enter and form a raid via the dungeon.
I remember a lot of people got trolled by their parties without their parties even realising this by killing Moira thus messing up their quest chain to unlock MC. When the attunement system was removed just before BC released it was changed to MC being unlocked as soon as you finished the dungeon and clicked on the portal and rescuing Moira became a side quest and she no longer came to the aid of Dagran during the fight and from that point onwards it was always the priestess.
Smell me
I didnt expect you to be here
smell
I sense something snacky here...
That red ring around the thumbnail almost made me skip the video! It looked like i already watched it
It does not help that the lower side of the ring is almost exactly the same width as "watched"-line, while all other sides are almost invisible
At least we know the Dark Iron Dwarves's gets a happy ending after all that misery the had to endure
The Cho-gall negotiation thing is a later retcon in Chronicles 2. Originally the Horde just busted in and pushed the Dark Irons into the depths. Which explained why they were at war with each other in Classic a lot better. I think my friend said Chronicle 3 doesn't even MENTION them being at war with each other.
@Peri OListo What sounds stupid, the lack of explanation for their war or how easily the Old Horde busted in?
@@DIEGhostfishThey were a colossal Orc-Troll-Ogre army.
Thank you, I thought I was crazy.
@@DIEGhostfish "How could that massive army of orcs, trolls, ogres and black dragons burst into a city? How could this happen?"
Dark iron skin and eyes should be an opition since the beginning.
You can sort of make a half-dark iron dwarf.
It doesn't have that obsidian hue though.
I mean... that wouldn't have made much sense lore-wise though, since Dark Iron dwarves are literally enemies of Ironforge/Bronzebeard dwarves, so just having them jump around in the dwarven starting zone would be... curious, to say the least.
And wildhammer tattoos
1:55 the council of seven powerful spell casters when there are some thats a Tank, Arms Warrior, and Rogue when you kill their ghosts in BRM.... probably why they ended up summon the wrong thing but Ragnaros
So when Azeroth faced annihilation by an elemental force of destruction - they basically just outsourced the problem, and didn't even have to pay for it.
Lmao the Wildhammer guy's reaction when Rag appeared XD
As much as I have played Vanilla, BRD is a place I have yet to step in to for Classic.
The Dark Irons are hands-down some of the best antagonists in all of Warcraft.
Posted 11 minutes ago, one dislike. Someone’s got it out for you.
Probably nobbel...
@@dirkdiggler8093 no! no. no! bad dirk. bad. spew your hate somewhere else. bad! bad dirk! thats nasty. no! bad. no no no. no!
@@dirkdiggler8093 I mean he was using later Retail Era lore for the Cho'Gall negotiation part, it could be super vanilla purists who don't like that retcon who are angry.
it must've been cause it showed the untapped rich thorium vein
Guarenteed someone watching on mobile had their thumb slip and hit the dislike.
The War of the Three Hammers happened because Anvilmar had no heir, so each clan wanted to put one of their own on the throne
I just love how engaging these videos are. I watched this video not too long ago, and watched it again today and is still as engaging as the first time
Interesting note the rare Dire Troll outside of BRD got a model update in BFA that makes it look like he's made of stone, so maybe he was a golem designed to spy on the Dark Horde by imitating one of the Smotherthorn or Firetree Dire Trolls.
I like that the dark iron guy's death sound was a dying space marine. XD
You had me at big daddy raggy
Note: your thumbnail has a redline on the bottom, it makes it look like the video has already been watched, I did not click your video for 4 days until I realized I still havent watched it.
I remember Modgud, she failed because the dark magic she was wielding turned on her in her moment of need.
Also attacking two enemies at the same time is generally a stupid move.
Dark Horde, Darkiron Dwarves. Not very subtle about who is evil in Warcraft huh
If they have dark skin, they're evil. Pretty awkward implications there
Don’t forget black dragons xD
I just found you man, and shoot, keep up the lore vids. You make it fun to watch with all the good info :) a lot of other lore peeps, it’s just boring lore hahah
Well, lore and learning is never boring... but good learning only comes from a good teacher
When armies cant take down a giant fire monster
Hire murder hobos
Yeah right, i'm not buying that Moira act. The guy has been trying to conspirate the way out for its people, instead of begging for the other clans to help, which would honestly be the only course of action when your entire people is enslaved to a primal deity of litteral fire. Buuut noooo, instead let's soil the memory of the City main benefactor, and add injury to insult by attempting to blow up its second piece of work, let's also assure the victory of the undead forsaken up north by cutting supply lines, let's ally ourselves with the twilight hammer.
His course of action was pretty close to the worst thing he could even bring up, and he did anyway.
i just saw you uploaded and couldnt wait a bit, love the series
Dude i discover you channel and you ate fucking genius the edit of vids are briliant ita more enjoying listen lore and sometimes good jokes and memes ❤️
Great way to start my Saturday, thank you, Plat!
Splitting your army into 2 is a bad idea
Who would've guessed
Things like the black rock lore vs actions makes me honestly look back pn some SWTOR quests way more fondly.
Anyone else want to mine that rich thorium around 3:50
8:03-8:12 wow, this is the fisrt time I see a succubus fall in love of a mortal, it's usually the way, if you know what I mean hehe (͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Nah but being serious, this is the firstime I see something like this, is there more stories like that one in wow?
Lmfao best wow account ever 🥺🥺
Of course I liked it. And of course I'm subscribed. AND OF COURSE YOU'LL BE MAKING MORE VIDS PLZ! ^^
7:46 cracked me up x)
I love how the Wildhammer were exiled from Khaz Modan JUST LIKE THE DARK IRON and for some reason the later decided to attack them as well for no weason whatsoever
I mean, its hard to defend seriously
Last I checked the wildhammers were so traumatized by the events in grim batol/rags summoning they never wanted to live underground again so they moved to places like the twighlight Highlands and the hinterlands and lived above ground?
Now that is this very impressive video in all regards, thank you so much for such quality content. I am looking forward to study more personally visiting that place. Thank you.
Youkai Mountain
I came here looking for an explanation for the big rocky 'heart' suspended in chains in the center of the Blackrock Mountain. I always thought it a perculiar construction and never new of its purpose - until now - the resting place of the architect of the Shadowforge City. Thanks for the video, much appreciated!
It's meta reason could well be a reference to Morrowind, which features a heart in the centre of a volcano.
Marathoned your vids today and now a new video? Time to clear my schedule
I didn’t know the burning steppes and searing gorge where caused by ragnaros
Same
you make the best WoW videos!
Black Rock mountain and everything in it was my favorite part about classic
Very nice job man. Takes a huge amount of time to get that all together I am sure. People like yourself keep classic WOW alive. Great job man! Love your stuff. :)
Wonderful vid!
I remember BRD back in the day. Going there was pretty much an all-night ordeal.
4 to 6 hours to complete ?? Dude... It took me 2 hours to do gnomeran
I'm not sure were Dark Iron Dwarfs dark skinned from the start. Didn't Ragnaros had something to do with it?
Nope. They inherited their dark skin from the Earthen.
How did Moira's skin become more like the dark iron?
LOL I completely forgot about the HS Grim Patron memes
This is easely my favorite wow classic channel
I think there was even an cinematic when you first entered burning steps
from redcliff i think
DUDE I LOVE YOUR VIDEOS. YOU ARE HILARIOUS!!!!
Brd city is so fucking huge and massive i love being there. Just look how many power they have - you don't wanna mess with them. THat's maybe bigger than DM in feralas , also dwarfs have lbrs/ubrs with BWL and i sure the throne where nefarion sit and relax was dwarf king place. Aslo i love watching at grim batol it's so fucking misterios
Blizz should put you on payroll
damn there was some large thorium at 3minutes, nobody take it its mine
3:45
*HEAVY BREATHING*
Love you
Hey, what video editing tool do you use for those gorgeous videos?
Thanks in advance
Thats awesome. One of these days I wanna full clear Blackrock as I've never gotten to the end. Thats cool I was wondering how Moira was the leader of the Dark Iron when I finally unlocked my Dark Iron Dwarf.
You and the youtuber Men of the West(a lord of the rings channel) sound A LOT alike
Nah, not really
Makujah =O
What is the name of the song at 4:47?
Okay there is no way he was ambush by 300 dark iron dwarfs. That’s gotta be exaggerated
I mean we already knew the dark iron's weren't. Necccsarily bad people. The thorium brotherhood is a testament to that.
amazing video
5:00
46h to complete everything in Blackrock?
BRD, BWL, LBRS, UBRS, BRD
who would take so long for those :o
I am curious on how you get the models like the three dwarven Kings and animate them?
Moooore, I want mooooor!
At 2:58 it hurts me to see you just fly on by the Rich Thorium Vein ooof
Quick, get that Rich Thorium Vein !!
The dwarves are the best race
Man the difference with this mountain from retail and classic is night & day. Retail you just go dungeon finder and attempt to do the quests and get forced to cheese the dungeon by using the drill machine to fineous darkvire. When I went into classic, my guild master walked me through the entire dungeon showing all bosses and secrets and the lore.
This was great! Played in vanilla through cataclysm and back again. Love to hear more!
@3:45 could I get a coor for that rich thorium vein? Lol.
Mmmmmmmm JoJo references, my favorite
"You can't be the Dwarf character, Butters. I'm the Dwarf."
Try new Ragnar-Os
Taste the flavors of Sulfuron
By fiber be purged
Two scoops, Executus. Two scoops
I was waiting for ages for you to say we kill the king
The red bar confused me into thinking that I've watched the video already
Dagran the Hut has Bronzebeards daughter in the Leia slave outfit....... Shouldn't Disney be throwing a fit right about now?
Excellent meme choice like usual my friend