Let me get this straight, Barathen Wrynn fought gnolls. And his grandson and great-grandson, Varian and Anduin, were/are fighting the Legion, Lich King, and Old Gods. Respect your elders my ass.
Cause now they know Ironforge is so much better! And the dwarves aren’t even asking for rent! Honestly dude, dwarves are just the most Chad race in all of Azeroth.
You forgot to mention the powerful Darkness that the Kobolds fear, the reason they have those candles is not just to light their way but to keep the Darkness away from them, this is why you see Betrayal a Hearthstone card with a kobold blowing out another one's candle.
Murlocs might not be cannibals but they definitely eat other humanoids. Remember finding the chewed up chunks of Footman Malakai in Elwynn Forest? Also, if you’re into creepy stuff in classic, the gnoll tents are made out of people. Look hard enough and you’ll see one of the tent models has a face.
Have you heard the theory that Hogger is still alive? Cata retconned him into being captured not killed and taken to the stockades. He then broke out and was killed. But then at the start of BFA when the horde break into the stockades He's still there... except it turns out it was actually just someone in a costume [the cosplay winner from blizzcon]. Elwynn Forest was merely a setback.
Or it could be another Gnoll named Hogger, as Gnoll leaders tend to have the same name. In Redridge Mountain during Cata, you have to go help out a town deal with a pack of gnolls led by Yowler, who was the son of Yowler.
WoW summed it up best when they had some mobs repeatedly say: "Kill you! Take your things." it perfectly describes every players purpose in the game. Kill anything that crosses your path then check the corpse for any valuables.
As someone who is currently leveling through Azeroth, I would like to, respectfully, demand more 'Dungeon Dives' - please and thank you. Anywho, great video, as per ush'.
@@kamilostek It was my understanding that hearthstone lore is an alternate reality, as in we theoretically could visit it with the help of the Bronze Dragonflight. You're correct though, it's not Canon to our timeline.
I really, really enjoy your videos on Classic WoW, Platty ! Since I started watching them, I have learned a lot about Classic lore, which I sadly didn't while playing my Nightelf Druid in Classic. Keep it up ! For the Alliance !
I still don’t understand why we are killing Kobolds. Even though as you said they are pretty stupid, they clearly at least know some basic common language, enough to say “you no take candle,” which is more than other races. I’d imagine some sort of arrangement for peace could be made by just offering them lights/ lanters/ waxes. I mean, they were there first and the Alliance kinda just came into thier dwellings to use as mines and clean out!
Interesting facts about each race: 1) Kobolts. Kobolts Mages have magic Candles on their head. It seems that their Earwax actually contains some form of Mana ... as weird as that is. 2) Gnolls. If you look at the tents of the Gnolls you may see a special one. With a human face sewn in. Yes they make their tents from the creatures they slay ... ALL creatures, including humans. 3) Trogs. Trogs have a special resistance to Poison damage in many cases. This is the reason why they are resistant, if not immune to the radiation of Gnomeregan. 4) Murlocs. Similarly to Ogres, the most powerfull Murloc Casters also tend to have a mutation, which turns their skin white. While the strongest Warriors have a mutation which turns their skin darker. Murlocs are also one of the few races, that actually retain their free will, if they are resurected as undead.
Missed the reason the kobolds have candles in the first place. They are very superstitious and afraid of the Darkness. The Darkness is likely what they call shades they find while digging but it could also just be the absence of light
I figure lots of Alliance fight kobolds out of candle jealousy. And Troggs just because they're upset that Troggs are smarter and prettier. Murlocs, too, but that's a given.
I have this theory that murlocs are actually the smartest beings on Azeroth but never progressed or became more sophisticated because they simply don’t give a shit
I would've liked you to talk about how the kobolds are mining ore for the defias brotherhoods war effort. They themselves might be a minor pest, but they actively contribute to the potential destruction of Stormwind until VanCleef was stopped.
@@hervisdaubeny2591 I mean, it would be a stretch lore-wise, but in practicality, just how iconic the Murlocs are would make them amazingly enjoyable playable characters. With how wide-spread they are, the best Blizzard could do is make a more intellectual sub-species appear. But there may be a more practical means, I'm not exactly a lore nerd.
Things like murlocs, kobolds and knolls becoming allied races just don't make sense. They don't have cities, they don't have diplomacy, they don't negotiate, some even cannibalize, there's no inter connectivity between separate groups. Not to mention that their body shapes are terrible. Sure they're "humanoid", but the structuring of their bodies are so far from the playable races body structures. The most comparable allied race I would say are Vulpera, but Vulpera are just reskinned goblins. They can just cut and paste goblin armor on them. Modeling their gear would be a nightmare. I get people's desire to have them, but that desire is the only thing, literally the only thing, they have in terms of being an allied race. No lore, no current model that gear fits, no intelligence, no major cities, and the list goes on.
Well fack. I thought Stormwind City was brand new. I mean, Probably it was because I played the map in WC3 which in the description, said that stormwind was in the making, after lorderon fell. Im pretty sure.
Another great vid. But, when will you be making that murloc music video you just promised us? (6:50 - 7:05) Also... where can I get my very own Hogger plush?
i do be lovin murlocs doe, ive always wanted to play as a Murloc. Imagine being the Murloc Death Knight Mrggglerrrgrgr, who fell at the hands of some adventurer in the Borean Tundra. Murloc in full plate with a two hander? Yes please.
Gorlocs are the ancestors of Murlocs, not an arctic evolution of them. Kinda like Trolls and Elves, the Murlocs evolved from the Gorlocs and then they spread out which gives them their different evolutions.
I think it was Cataclysm that mentioned that part of the reason Troggs were considered a failure was because they ate rocks which means they ate each other and caused a ton of damage to any Titan facility they infested. They even managed to get into Deepholm and spread like a plague.
Horde: fights for thier survival every day Alliance: lol lets take out the local wildlife and colonize the trolls 😂 wait unions? Sounds like defias to me 😂 bust up the unions
I never understood the merchandising of Murlocs, I played WoW during the earlier years from Vanilla to TLK and I am still scared of them whenever I think of all the shit they put me through. They always appear in packs and it is extremely easy to aggro additional Murlocs when you're fighting one as they have a huge aggro radius. I don't know about the current state of WoW, but in the earlier years, fighting more than one monster often means death, and it was so very important to keep the fight one on one. I remember Murlocs love to gang up.
Got to be honest, the thumbnail kinda make me think the Alliance have it easier than the Horde with their goofy villains. Horde: Big, scary, sadistic monsters Alliance: Rat in a Hat, Baby Fish Man, Grumpy Ol' Welshman and Mongrel that eats his own turds
This reminds me, years ago back in Warcraft 3, i used to think Kobolds are smaller versions of Quillboars cuz their Models looks like Pigbois But after i got into WoW, how wrong i was X,D
actuawly, titans created earthens some of which then degraded into trogs, some others into dwarves and the rest stayed erthens. All of this could be learned in Uldaman dung if you cared to read it.
Not 100% canon anymore, read the first chronicles book. Troggs were the prototype of the Earthen who via the curse of flesh turned into more fleshy being. Not that many of the stone variants are left outside of Uldaman and Deepholme (Uldums dwarves are not earthern. They were created by Loken)
Got word about the Flash Game about Murlocs. Sorta 2D WoWarcraft RPG, but those who played it REMEMBERS IT. Some completed it, others don't. Unfortunately, Time is cruel, so I bet me and the few remembers them. Gotta let you guys know that these Murlocs existed in the NAGA FACTION as this one Naga Queen and Demon Hunter worked against the Lich King to be destroyed. But like the Murloc Flash Game, so Fate is cruel to them, destroyed by Lich King Arthas.
Wasn't there someone in _Warcraft_ history that actually negotiated a _trade deal_ with the kobolds? I swear, someone, somehow, managed to convince the kobolds to dig up rare material in exchange for, like, high-quality candles or something. And I think it was someone in the Scarlet Crusade…?
Now that I think about it, the story of life in Warcraft seems more effed up than I imagined, Turns out at the beginning there were robots, and only then they were organics... Which are a curse... Of a dark God... Which technically implies that God has a cosmic presence cause you got organic life on other planets.
Considering the human starting zone quests I'm surprised hunger isn't on the list.
The amount of food quests is ridiculous haha
Seems mundane but kinda illustrative of the state the human kingdom was in at the time.
The massive amount of bandits and monsters on every square foot of land is probably the reason why they can’t grow any food
@@MadPutz In the lore, the problem come from the Defias who burned all the crops in Westfall and took control of smaller ones in Elwynn forest.
This kind of editing is so funny to watch
Small note about Gnolls - hyenas are not dogs. They felines. ;)
did he just waterboard hogger, thats defenetley new
When you are 60, but the memories of being 6 won't leave you.
Did you just spell definitely as defenetley, that’s definitely new.
Haha
Someone might even say.... Poggers
Came here to say the same he fucking waterboarded Hogger... Roflmao!
Pretty accurate depiction of what happened to hogger during the first week of classic.
It was funny to see 40 stacks of gnomes walk to Elwynn forest to fight Hogger as a raid boss
Let me get this straight, Barathen Wrynn fought gnolls. And his grandson and great-grandson, Varian and Anduin, were/are fighting the Legion, Lich King, and Old Gods. Respect your elders my ass.
If you leveled in redridge you know that those fuckers are worst than anything the legion/old gods threw at us at this point
they may had greater threat to civilians
We have defeated The Legion, The Lich King, and the Old Gods. Gnolls, on the other hand, is an enemy we haven't defeated yet.
@@joel7342 actually true
@@pogchamp2897 lmao
15 years on, the Gnomes haven't taken Gnomregon back....
The live in Mechagon now
Chris Smid I read that as Michigan for some reason but it made sense to me.
Gnomes just went in ironforge to corrupt dwarvish master race instead of defending their home.
Cause now they know Ironforge is so much better! And the dwarves aren’t even asking for rent! Honestly dude, dwarves are just the most Chad race in all of Azeroth.
Look how much dps gnome warriors have. It should be easy nuff to wipe out troggs.
Somewhere i have read that if the gnolls werent constantly fighting amongst each other,they would actually be a powerful enemy to the alliance
I heard this too. Scary shit
Anything in large numbers.
As someone said here: "We defeated the Lich King, the Burning Crusade and the Old Gods but we still haven't defeated Gnolls". Think about it.
Gnoll Horde allied race when?
@@Makslaite I dont think they like the horde
You forgot to mention the powerful Darkness that the Kobolds fear, the reason they have those candles is not just to light their way but to keep the Darkness away from them, this is why you see Betrayal a Hearthstone card with a kobold blowing out another one's candle.
Murlocs might not be cannibals but they definitely eat other humanoids. Remember finding the chewed up chunks of Footman Malakai in Elwynn Forest?
Also, if you’re into creepy stuff in classic, the gnoll tents are made out of people. Look hard enough and you’ll see one of the tent models has a face.
Well, there were also bears and wolves nearby where the footmen were found... devil's advocate here - not sure I'd blame the murlocs right away.
@@BrewmasterBubbli
Bears and wolves wouldn't rip up bodies that way. That takes some dark intelligence.
@@wikipediaintellectual7088Azerothian wolves and bears would.
@@thomasleonardis711
They're not nearly smart enough.
The lack of Gnomish representation in the intro sequence is deeply, deeply... appreciated
it has troggs so close enough
Oh, that gnomophobe cringelords...
@@amalekh midget
@Focus Support pls i believe you mean kobolds??
nah, they were represented. They’re just under the screen
Have you heard the theory that Hogger is still alive?
Cata retconned him into being captured not killed and taken to the stockades. He then broke out and was killed. But then at the start of BFA when the horde break into the stockades He's still there... except it turns out it was actually just someone in a costume [the cosplay winner from blizzcon].
Elwynn Forest was merely a setback.
Or it could be another Gnoll named Hogger, as Gnoll leaders tend to have the same name.
In Redridge Mountain during Cata, you have to go help out a town deal with a pack of gnolls led by Yowler, who was the son of Yowler.
@@Crawdithe98 like the Gordon King of Diremaul?
No way he survived being run over by an SUV dude
Ngl, they had us in the first half.
WoW summed it up best when they had some mobs repeatedly say: "Kill you! Take your things." it perfectly describes every players purpose in the game. Kill anything that crosses your path then check the corpse for any valuables.
Yes those wyrmtongues? Always struck me as a parody of the player characters, hoarding masses of items for esoteric purposes.
As someone who is currently leveling through Azeroth, I would like to, respectfully, demand more 'Dungeon Dives' - please and thank you.
Anywho, great video, as per ush'.
This is discussing vanilla era wow. Nothing like the game today.
"Murlocs, but more terrifying."
Sir, I prefer to *not* have to panic that something more terrifying than a murloc exists, even if in fiction.
1:42 “But never to a full-blown threat”
Kobolds in Hearthstone literally resurrected Galakrond
Yeah but Hearthstone’s lore is not canon
@@kamilostek It was my understanding that hearthstone lore is an alternate reality, as in we theoretically could visit it with the help of the Bronze Dragonflight. You're correct though, it's not Canon to our timeline.
These videos make me feel a lot better about my murder rampage through Azeroth. Thanks for great content
The Murlocs where rapping I want to hear more of that.
It's an illegal Danish reference! ua-cam.com/video/vgYcfV7D5gc/v-deo.html
Sadly Myndflame hasn't uploaded in years, god I miss Illegal Danish
Sam Shue thank you
I really, really enjoy your videos on Classic WoW, Platty ! Since I started watching them, I have learned a lot about Classic lore, which I sadly didn't while playing my Nightelf Druid in Classic. Keep it up ! For the Alliance !
"No plushies were harmed in the making of this video"
I still don’t understand why we are killing Kobolds. Even though as you said they are pretty stupid, they clearly at least know some basic common language, enough to say “you no take candle,” which is more than other races. I’d imagine some sort of arrangement for peace could be made by just offering them lights/ lanters/ waxes. I mean, they were there first and the Alliance kinda just came into thier dwellings to use as mines and clean out!
We kill them because the Alliance benefits from exploiting the mines and they're viewed as subhuman pests.
Interesting facts about each race:
1) Kobolts. Kobolts Mages have magic Candles on their head. It seems that their Earwax actually contains some form of Mana ... as weird as that is.
2) Gnolls. If you look at the tents of the Gnolls you may see a special one. With a human face sewn in. Yes they make their tents from the creatures they slay ... ALL creatures, including humans.
3) Trogs. Trogs have a special resistance to Poison damage in many cases. This is the reason why they are resistant, if not immune to the radiation of Gnomeregan.
4) Murlocs. Similarly to Ogres, the most powerfull Murloc Casters also tend to have a mutation, which turns their skin white. While the strongest Warriors have a mutation which turns their skin darker. Murlocs are also one of the few races, that actually retain their free will, if they are resurected as undead.
Man, if that candle magic things were true, they should sell it to the blood elf as 'magic cheese'
@@moch.farisdzulfiqar6123they no sell candle!!
Missed the reason the kobolds have candles in the first place. They are very superstitious and afraid of the Darkness. The Darkness is likely what they call shades they find while digging but it could also just be the absence of light
I figure lots of Alliance fight kobolds out of candle jealousy.
And Troggs just because they're upset that Troggs are smarter and prettier.
Murlocs, too, but that's a given.
Well kobolds fight the darkness (Void..aka the end of all things) with there candles..so You NO TAKE CANDLE!
oh man. blast from the past with that Myndflame Murloc track
You.....you got killed a lot by Hogger, right ?
Or why so much hate for him :D ?
I have this theory that murlocs are actually the smartest beings on Azeroth but never progressed or became more sophisticated because they simply don’t give a shit
3 mins ago this has never happened in my life
I would've liked you to talk about how the kobolds are mining ore for the defias brotherhoods war effort. They themselves might be a minor pest, but they actively contribute to the potential destruction of Stormwind until VanCleef was stopped.
The Curse of Flesh thing always confused me, like did they suddenly gain reproductive organs when they were cursed or something?
@PlatinumWow I love you
The only thing murlocs don't have at this point is a playable race. "Still waiting"
Still a stupid idea
@@hervisdaubeny2591 I mean, it would be a stretch lore-wise, but in practicality, just how iconic the Murlocs are would make them amazingly enjoyable playable characters.
With how wide-spread they are, the best Blizzard could do is make a more intellectual sub-species appear. But there may be a more practical means, I'm not exactly a lore nerd.
@@YourCrazyDolphin not saying its impossible. Just saying its stupid. Never liked the fishy bastards never thought they were cute.
Things like murlocs, kobolds and knolls becoming allied races just don't make sense. They don't have cities, they don't have diplomacy, they don't negotiate, some even cannibalize, there's no inter connectivity between separate groups. Not to mention that their body shapes are terrible. Sure they're "humanoid", but the structuring of their bodies are so far from the playable races body structures. The most comparable allied race I would say are Vulpera, but Vulpera are just reskinned goblins. They can just cut and paste goblin armor on them. Modeling their gear would be a nightmare. I get people's desire to have them, but that desire is the only thing, literally the only thing, they have in terms of being an allied race. No lore, no current model that gear fits, no intelligence, no major cities, and the list goes on.
oh man I haven't heard that Illegal Danish music in years!...
Best WoW Classic content creator
The "So...uh yeah, they're pretty stupid" part killed me 😂
Well fack. I thought Stormwind City was brand new.
I mean, Probably it was because I played the map in WC3 which in the description, said that stormwind was in the making, after lorderon fell.
Im pretty sure.
Another great vid. But, when will you be making that murloc music video you just promised us? (6:50 - 7:05)
Also... where can I get my very own Hogger plush?
One great video while I have to be at home because of covid-19
Just ONE mistake, Murlocs are Gorlocs that left the Sholazar Basin and not the other way around.
your videos keep me thoroughly entertained, i truly lost it when you waterboarded your hogger plushie
Super Funny vid keep up the good job
i do be lovin murlocs doe, ive always wanted to play as a Murloc. Imagine being the Murloc Death Knight Mrggglerrrgrgr, who fell at the hands of some adventurer in the Borean Tundra. Murloc in full plate with a two hander? Yes please.
Gorlocs are the ancestors of Murlocs, not an arctic evolution of them. Kinda like Trolls and Elves, the Murlocs evolved from the Gorlocs and then they spread out which gives them their different evolutions.
U sure dont know how evoluution Works, dummy
@@nerdragexx1069 I think you don't, lmao
2:32
Now all we need is a couch and we would have ourselves an *interesting* movie.
I think it was Cataclysm that mentioned that part of the reason Troggs were considered a failure was because they ate rocks which means they ate each other and caused a ton of damage to any Titan facility they infested. They even managed to get into Deepholm and spread like a plague.
Horde: fights for thier survival every day
Alliance: lol lets take out the local wildlife and colonize the trolls 😂 wait unions? Sounds like defias to me 😂 bust up the unions
Been wanting my own murloc since 2005
Haven't heard that Myndflame song in ages
My dude busted out the “enhanced interrogation” on hogger 😂
NO TAKE CANDLES
“Kobolds are known to breed like rabbits..” now there’s a mental image I didn’t want...
I never understood the merchandising of Murlocs, I played WoW during the earlier years from Vanilla to TLK and I am still scared of them whenever I think of all the shit they put me through. They always appear in packs and it is extremely easy to aggro additional Murlocs when you're fighting one as they have a huge aggro radius. I don't know about the current state of WoW, but in the earlier years, fighting more than one monster often means death, and it was so very important to keep the fight one on one. I remember Murlocs love to gang up.
6:58 *YOU THINK WE WOULDN'T NOTICE?!*
what the hell are you talking about
@@evanlarson2726You are uncultured! It is the murloc chant from Illegal Danish.
ye kill hogger 😂, true enemy of the human
Fun fact: the name "trogg" is derived from the word "troglodyte", which means cave man
ah yes, I, venkleftis, the leader of kobolds. 1:31
Got to be honest, the thumbnail kinda make me think the Alliance have it easier than the Horde with their goofy villains.
Horde: Big, scary, sadistic monsters
Alliance: Rat in a Hat, Baby Fish Man, Grumpy Ol' Welshman and Mongrel that eats his own turds
Kobolds, Gnolls, Troggs, and Murlocs... the Axis of Awful shall rise again!
The most expensive thing in WoW is a 1st blizzcon code for Murky. Let that sink in.
man your vids just keep getting better
This reminds me, years ago back in Warcraft 3, i used to think Kobolds are smaller versions of Quillboars cuz their Models looks like Pigbois
But after i got into WoW, how wrong i was
X,D
Myndflame, now thats a nostalgia hit
Been looking forward to this one for ages!!
4:01 what an average low level alliance player would see when fighting hogger.
Murlocs, the Slayers of Newbies
Gnolls attacking Stormwind was jacked directly from EverQuest Gnolls attacking Qeynos lol. Fippy Darkpaw being the most famous of said Gnolls.
PlatinumPup so cutes!
Best Wow content creator!!
Ahhhh that amazing trumpet music from the barrens and the badlands.
Excellent work, Platinum. Thanks for this.
Algalon didn't event think twice about re-origination. Why were the Titans so reluctant to kill the Troggs?
You waterboarded hogger!!! HAHAH
:Yes! My shammy made it to the vid at 8:13 thanks Plat
I think a good idea for why u want them dead would be raids! u can go expansion by expansion! good content there! man imagine doing WoD xD
im surprised you didnt mention the devouring darkness when speaking of kobolds, such a cool part of their lore
murlocs sounds like they are constantly being water boarded
Another hilarious video Platinum. I don’t even play wow but your videos are so entertaining that it doesnt matter
Human scream like a girl when got attacked by the gnolls.
Hey, it would be awesome if you make a Video about all the noteworthy Murloks like Murky and the demon Hunter one
Dude I love the Illegal Danish reference with the murlocs
Platinum, you make that good shit.
I saw it when it was 31 seconds ago and there was already 3 views!
Man I have that murloc hoodie and I fucking love it
actuawly, titans created earthens some of which then degraded into trogs, some others into dwarves and the rest stayed erthens. All of this could be learned in Uldaman dung if you cared to read it.
Im pretty sure that this was changed in Chronicle, right?
Not 100% canon anymore, read the first chronicles book. Troggs were the prototype of the Earthen who via the curse of flesh turned into more fleshy being. Not that many of the stone variants are left outside of Uldaman and Deepholme (Uldums dwarves are not earthern. They were created by Loken)
@@PlatinumWoW yes it was, i am just butthurting coz blizz don't even remember what they wrote before.
You no take candle!
Those punches on that Hogger plush were *personal*
I was expecting him to say "Murlocs are the one race that players wanted to be able to level as, but never got (Aside from Tuskar)."
Waterboarding gnolls was banned by the UN
Sounds like Kobolds are content to mind their own business underground.
That murloc song takes me back and for some weird reason I just want to buy murloc merchandise.
I did not take that candle,i did nawt!
Gorlacs are the progenitors to the murlocs.
I need the murloc song as my ring tone
best classic content on youtube
Got word about the Flash Game about Murlocs. Sorta 2D WoWarcraft RPG, but those who played it REMEMBERS IT. Some completed it, others don't.
Unfortunately, Time is cruel, so I bet me and the few remembers them.
Gotta let you guys know that these Murlocs existed in the NAGA FACTION as this one Naga Queen and Demon Hunter worked against the Lich King to be destroyed. But like the Murloc Flash Game, so Fate is cruel to them, destroyed by Lich King Arthas.
Wasn't there someone in _Warcraft_ history that actually negotiated a _trade deal_ with the kobolds? I swear, someone, somehow, managed to convince the kobolds to dig up rare material in exchange for, like, high-quality candles or something. And I think it was someone in the Scarlet Crusade…?
Anyone remember when merlocks actually spoke English in warcraft 3
Now that I think about it, the story of life in Warcraft seems more effed up than I imagined, Turns out at the beginning there were robots, and only then they were organics... Which are a curse... Of a dark God... Which technically implies that God has a cosmic presence cause you got organic life on other planets.
hyenas more related to the cat family