The Beginner's Guide to Kult: Divinity Lost I Introduction and Setting

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  • @MattiasWestermark
    @MattiasWestermark 5 років тому +87

    A fairly good description of the setting. It misses two of the fundamentals though :
    1. There never was a supreme God, other than the Demiurge.
    2. Every human is divine. "Reality" is just a prison made by the Demiurge to make us forget that.

    • @TheBotchPit
      @TheBotchPit  5 років тому +11

      I'll make sure to clarify that in the next setting entry. Thanks for the heads up!

    • @ino7604
      @ino7604 4 роки тому +5

      Well....That's not entirely true. The setting is heavily based on Gnostic cosmology. Many schools of Gnosticism taught that the Demiurge was himself a distorted emanation originating ultimately from the ONE true creator God. But the Demiurge is either insane, evil, diluted or some combination of all of those things and decides that HE is the true creator god. he then goes on to fashion existence as we know as a reflection of his own twisted inner nature. Which is what accounts for why there is suffering, pain, misfortune etc. in the world. Each and every person is, like the demiurge himself, said to have a spark of the original creator God within him usually thought to be our souls. Of course Kult Divinity Lost doesn't appear to include anything about the original creator God in it's setting, it's themes borrow from real life philosophies which do.

    • @MattiasWestermark
      @MattiasWestermark 4 роки тому +5

      @@ino7604 yes, I know. But the KULT cosmology doesn't include the divine creator of spirit, only the creator of matter. Instead, they have Astaroth as the mirror. The KULT- universe isn't a gnostic schoolbook.

    • @ino7604
      @ino7604 4 роки тому

      @@MattiasWestermark I know it isn't a gnostic schoolbook. I never claimed that it was. I'm still pretty new to Kult so I don't know much about Astaroth yet. They do not include the divine creator God in the explicit Kult lore but they also don't appear to explicitly EXCLUDE him either was all I was pointing out. That and how heavily the language and concepts are based on real life Gnostic Philosophy

    • @MattiasWestermark
      @MattiasWestermark 4 роки тому +2

      @@ino7604 the original creators Gunilla Jonsson and Michael Petersén drew on gnosticism as an inspiration, but deliberately refrained from having a positive supreme force in the cosmology. Instead, all of creation is a prison for divine humans.

  • @kathryngordon5115
    @kathryngordon5115 4 роки тому +13

    I really love your live plays - but I love these info videos even more.

    • @TheBotchPit
      @TheBotchPit  4 роки тому +3

      Thank you! And we'll get back to Kult as soon as possible. Great game.

  • @robertost9893
    @robertost9893 3 роки тому +11

    Playing Kult - death is only the beginning, listening to Sisters of Mercy, reading William Gibson and watching movies like The Prophecy and Blade Runner....that was the 90s.

  • @Wolfsheim23
    @Wolfsheim23 4 роки тому +5

    Everything I hear about the lore in Kult just makes me think of the Sandman Slim books. It so perfectly describes that world

  • @MoltenPlastic
    @MoltenPlastic 5 років тому +38

    My favourite rpg since the age of fourteen. I'm thirty-seven now; I grew up fine
    Edit: wow, that's an old comment. I'm 42 now 🤣☺️

    • @Qwufi
      @Qwufi 4 роки тому +5

      Yea no need for such long warnings. We are not PC snowflakes.

    • @thealdoc
      @thealdoc 4 роки тому +2

      I get knowledge of this RPG end of last year/star of this year (2020) i created two characters but i didn't REALLY play, because of complications but i wanna go back into it

    • @entheo302
      @entheo302 4 роки тому +4

      I can vouch. I’ve been chained up under his bed for six months and he seems like a good guy ✌🏽

    • @--enyo--
      @--enyo-- 2 роки тому +2

      @@Qwufi Wow, nice internet flex there. 🙄 Seriously. This game is pretty dark. There is no harm from content warnings, and can avoid harm.

    • @paulll47
      @paulll47 2 роки тому +1

      @@--enyo-- To be fair, this game is so niche that whoever is looking for it, probably knows damn well what they are getting themselves into, not for everyone that's for sure.

  • @itinerantmercenary6988
    @itinerantmercenary6988 2 роки тому +3

    Oh man. I found a copy of this from Metropolis Games back in the early 90’s. I wasn’t much older than 20 back then, and wasn’t I in for a huge surprise. Thanks Borders for absolutely breaking all of my old preconceptions for what an rpg was back then.
    Hoe Lee Schmidt, I read through it once and immediately stuck it in my secret stash place. I sure as fuck wasn’t going to explain to my family what I stumbled across, especially after the whole religious scare of the 80’s.
    Fun fact: I still own a copy of the original to this day. Have 2 in fact, in addition to the Mophidius version. One of my most cherished, if not show to anyone, books of my collection.
    Seriously: Mature minds only.

  • @ChristopherLaHaise
    @ChristopherLaHaise 4 роки тому +11

    Re: Sexual Assault in RPGs.
    At my table is a survivor of such. When we did Session 0 to discuss what was off the table: Green, Yellow, Red, sexual assault was Red.
    The PCs were dealing with a cult which used sex magic. That was fine.
    The parents of one of the characters was in this cult, and had been pulled to Inferno prior to Session 1. This is fine.
    The PCs were exploring the parent's house. They came across a DVD. And if you're a GM and you've looked at the magic items in the book, you know what that DVD is.
    Two of the PCs decided to watch the DVD. And I had to then decide 'okay, what happens'.
    So. Yes, the two PCs get pulled in, one being the character of said survivor.
    What I did was this:
    I explained what they saw. I was not descriptive. I did not use 'rape' or 'sexual assault' but I did use words like 'trapped', and 'prisoner'.
    When the demons approached the two PCs, I let the *players* decide how they would respond. The survivor decided that her character would go willingly, and I let her take control of the scene, letting her feel like she was in control as a player, even if her character was ... not necessarily in control, but was a willing participant. Again, I was careful with wording, and I didn't linger on the scene too much.
    And the entire time, I watched the table like a hawk. The moment I picked up a vibe that the players weren't comfortable with the scene, I'd stop it cold.
    But ... she was okay with it. Her character passed the roll which needed to be passed, and the two characters were released.
    I was tense as hell through the entire thing. I'd never, ever done a scene like that before. I was perhaps more uncomfortable then the players were. But we got through it, and the player wasn't traumatized. So we moved forward with the game. I never thought I'd ever do a scene like that.
    So.
    1) Pick your words carefully. Don't be explicit.
    2) Let the players make choices. Let them dictate the terms of engagement.
    3) Do not linger on the scene any more than you have to, to get the point across. And again, phrasing matters.
    4) Keep an eye on the players, how all the players are responding - not just the players in the scene.
    5) Once is enough. There is no need to make this a repeat performance.
    I hope this helps?

    • @TheBotchPit
      @TheBotchPit  4 роки тому +1

      That seems very responsibly handled.

    • @paulll47
      @paulll47 2 роки тому +2

      To be honest, kult is the last game I would let someone with serious real life issues play, were it up to me I would have skipped the sexual violence entirely and just focus on other things but you handled it perfectly so kudos to you.

  • @kamui003
    @kamui003 5 років тому +5

    I'm looking forward to seeing more Kult videos.

  • @gadflycafe
    @gadflycafe 4 роки тому +4

    Hope to see more Kult videos from you!

    • @TheBotchPit
      @TheBotchPit  4 роки тому +3

      You will, for sure! I happen to work at a hospital (this is Chris, btw) so things have been crazy.

  • @spiegelnder
    @spiegelnder 4 роки тому +5

    I recommend the film, Gabriel (2007). It is inspired by the Crow and has a very similar dark, gloomy, dismal and decadent kind of atmosphere and setting; some good inspiration for this kind of game.

    • @idigamstudios7463
      @idigamstudios7463 2 роки тому

      Hellraiser, Coraline (for a slightly more whimsical expression of it,) and Madoka Magicka (particularly the witch labyrinths) are also great inspiration.

  • @artlovespaper
    @artlovespaper 5 років тому +2

    Great video, starting this game completely fresh with an open mind so this was really helpful.

    • @TheBotchPit
      @TheBotchPit  5 років тому

      We're glad you enjoyed it, Almorea! What are your first impressions of Kult: Divinity Lost so far?

    • @artlovespaper
      @artlovespaper 5 років тому

      The Botch Pit They’ve been amazing so far! I absolutely love the system. I’ve already been a player in one game and had the confidence to run a second myself. And of course I’ve finally got my head around the lore which in itself I’m super happy about!
      (Also the way the character sheets are set out is wonderful!)

  • @Zappline
    @Zappline 4 роки тому +3

    I love the original Swedish KULT game. Need to try this one now.

  • @nonofirerose
    @nonofirerose 5 років тому +9

    So dark the con of scurge. Feels very cthulhu-esque. But more along Nyarlathotep. This sounds cool.

  • @Lemmoxx
    @Lemmoxx 4 роки тому +1

    Great video. Thanks for posting.

  • @gamesandplayallnightandday8724
    @gamesandplayallnightandday8724 4 роки тому +3

    Excellent video as always.
    Where's this music from? It really captures the feel.

  • @DonFrozty
    @DonFrozty 5 років тому +26

    I've always felt Kult was inspired by Hellraiser a lot too, not my cup of tea when roleplaying but cool setting nonetheless

    • @WebMonkey741
      @WebMonkey741 5 років тому +7

      The other influence I would add is the Barker film "Lord of Illusions", or the comic series "Hellblazer" which people might know as the stories for the lead character John Constantine.

    • @spiegelnder
      @spiegelnder 4 роки тому

      It was inspired heavily by what the ancient Gnostics knew and had warned us about; Demiurge and the Archons. And there is a lot going on there (if one really does their homework)! It's not fiction.

    • @Wolfsheim23
      @Wolfsheim23 4 роки тому +1

      Check out the Sandman Slim series, they would make a perfect campaign for Kult.

    • @chalkdemon8019
      @chalkdemon8019 2 роки тому

      @@Wolfsheim23 as would Silent Hill.

    • @RuSosan
      @RuSosan 2 роки тому

      @@spiegelnder
      Quite an assertion to toss in the air without _any_ evidence provided.
      In other words how very _religion™️._
      Care to present any of that _homework_ of yours on the topic? 😏

  • @stevewinkleburg5300
    @stevewinkleburg5300 4 роки тому +3

    Very very gnostic ideas. I like it.

  • @RotaFury
    @RotaFury 5 років тому +4

    Really cool to hear you talk about this. My friend kickstarted the newest version and has been super hyped about it sense he got the system. We are currently playing a pathfinder game that will some how influence the kult game he is planning.
    Well I am not a fan of everything involved in kult I do love the darker aspect and honestly silent hill is indeed the perfect example I think.

    • @TheBotchPit
      @TheBotchPit  5 років тому +1

      It has tons of potential, for sure.

    • @RotaFury
      @RotaFury 5 років тому

      @@TheBotchPit agreed I may run a game in it my self. Just need to borrow my friends book. Then again there is a lot of settings i wanna try. Cyberpunk,more chronicles of darkness lines, dread, shattered (you guys totally should look into this last one).

  • @TheddunTOSS
    @TheddunTOSS Рік тому +2

    Will there be a second video?

  • @nyo1983
    @nyo1983 5 років тому +4

    Thanks for the introduction. Will You continue with Kult videos?

    • @TheBotchPit
      @TheBotchPit  5 років тому +1

      Absolutely. Quickly, might I add.

  • @3sgamestudio
    @3sgamestudio 4 роки тому +3

    only one video? : (

  • @SigfridSWE
    @SigfridSWE 6 місяців тому +1

    Welcome to Swedish rpg's. Helmgast is my first and favorit rpg maker. Eon, there fantasy rpg is the one I grew up with. Kult is amazing and its so nice to see that rpg and the other Swedish rpg maker Free league treating players like adults. Free league's soft horror game Vaesen doesn't even have a "warning" at the start of there books. Its nice to see them not overdoing "sensetivety warnings" like so many games do nowadays...

    • @TheBotchPit
      @TheBotchPit  5 місяців тому

      Agreed.
      I really need to do more on Kult.

  • @SirMeowingCat
    @SirMeowingCat 3 роки тому +1

    what was the song in this video?

  • @aspektx
    @aspektx 4 роки тому +8

    Someone has been reading a lot of 1st century BCE to 3rd century CE gnostic literature.

  • @hnorrstrom
    @hnorrstrom 4 роки тому +1

    You only pronunced Gunilla somewhat right, but sweds don't care much usually we even pronounce our names US style talking to americans. Great intruduction of Kult you are a great speaker, even thou I like the original from my teens better than the divinity lost version.

  • @Halloween111
    @Halloween111 4 роки тому +3

    I tried to run the original Kult in the 90's. The system was a mess and many of the players found it too much. I have been reading the relaunch (Divinity Lost). The system has been cleaned up quite a bit and I like the tweaks they've made to the original.

  • @thebeardhasgrownup8999
    @thebeardhasgrownup8999 3 роки тому +3

    Here are a few things that are also great inspirations for this game
    Spec Ops: The Line
    Eternal Darkness: Sanity's Requiem
    Horror World of Junji Ito
    Dark City
    The Dreams in the Witch House by H. P. Lovecraft
    It by Stephen King
    World of horror
    Paranoia agent
    Serial Experiments Lain
    Friday the 13th: The Series
    The Lost Room
    Mononoke: 2007 Anime
    Hell girl
    Requiem from the Darkness
    American gods by Neil Gaiman

  • @dockoutt3197
    @dockoutt3197 5 років тому +4

    First 3 minutes in, i said whos giving out the red pills lol. Ready to hear more about this, sounds good.

  • @PeterKoperdan
    @PeterKoperdan 2 роки тому +2

    ZERO imagery? Wow, talk about low effort...

    • @TheBotchPit
      @TheBotchPit  2 роки тому +1

      Thanks for the view!
      ONE word in caps? Wow, talk about high commenting effort...

  • @williamchristy9463
    @williamchristy9463 5 років тому +2

    What even is this?

    • @MattiasWestermark
      @MattiasWestermark 5 років тому +5

      A very occult and gnostic gem of a horror RPG. Absolutely brilliant.

    • @Ishgrath
      @Ishgrath 5 років тому +2

      its the thing that will eat your nightmares, kill your sanity and feed on your anxiety, absolutely amazing and actually nice to see a game that will capture the "true" reallity for what it actually is

    • @paulll47
      @paulll47 2 роки тому

      Something snowflakes and sjw should stear clear away from.