I think this is a great choice. The Alpine trail combines great geometry and value. This bike is from the birth place of mountain biking. We have a friend that rides Northstar with us and he rides this bike and send a it. I think the Alpine trail E Bike is the best one in the market and it may be my next bike. What I also like too is if you spend $1000 more you get XT and top end suspension on this bike. I really like this bike and I think it was a great choice.
@@JaredHoff yeah brother looking forward to it. We are n so cal now had to come down for a funeral in Carlsbad. We rode snow valley yesterday and will again today and back home tomorrow. If you are ever in so cal try Snow Valley and Snow Summit lift serviced riding. Two amazing bike parks. The geometry in the Marin s perfect.
Congrats on the new Marin. I personally have owned two Marin bikes over the last couple of years and they live up to their mantra which is Made For Fun. Great bikes for the price.
Thank you so much bro 👍🏻 that means a lot to me. I don’t plan on being a UA-cam star, but I just try to be me and represent the most honest version of myself that I can. Thank you for the feedback. Sometimes I wonder if I’m bringing people value with these videos LOL
Wow, nice crop of capable bikes and well thought overviews. Congrats on Marin. For anyone looking, YT Jeffsy and Polygon T7 also fit in that mix somewhere . . . Are there others maybe in the top 10?
I just found your channel last night. Can't wait for future videos. The subject is a great one as most people can't afford to buy a 7 to 10K bike that you see in a lot of other channels.
You will love the green machine! My son races his one in New Zealand for enduro and down hill. It’s fast 💨 down trails and very short in the back. We use vee tires 🛞 in winter and change to narrower maxxis assigais in summer
Great pick! I think you'll love it! I love my Marin and planning upgrade my yari fork soon as well! Great comparison video! Love that your getting a bike that can relate to us viewers!
Great video, as always! Such a shame the canyon spectral wasn't available, I've heard so many good things about it and actually ordered the 27.5" version. However the marin is also very good, enjoy!
Hey are you pleased with spectral 27,5. I have ordered al 6 27,5.I am planning to ride in bike parks and urban dh.Do you think that this bike good and strong for it
I had the 2020 version of The alpine trail 7 and it was a very good bike to ride. I had a lot of fun riding the trail in the Cali mountains…it can take really joy hits…
Its also depend wich continent u live. For example in EU last week i bought spectral al6 for about 2400 USD. Also in Europe bikes like Specialized or trek are more expensive than in US :)
Marin made a nice package. The Yari just needs better seals & wipers from SKS and a Vorsprung Luftkappe. Include those on your 1st fork service and you will be pleased.
Nicely done video! I just ordered a YT Jeffsy Core 2 last week but have to wait a couple more weeks before it’s supposed to ship. I’m with you on the Spectral though, if it was available I might’ve done it. My bike got stolen a couple of weeks ago so I definitely didn’t wanna have to wait too long for a replacement 😅
@@JaredHoff thanks man, luckily our homeowners insurance covered most the cost for the YT so it kinda worked out. Definitely stoked to get out on the new bike soon though!
I'd go Spectral (I did with the AL6 29er). It doesn't really require any upgrades out of the box but the other bikes have low end damping on the shock / forks, inferior brakes, and lower quality tyres etc which I'd want to replace. In the Spectral everything is balanced and there's nothing that makes me think I need to buy more components.
I have the new Commencal Meta AM 29 origin build in metallic green had it a few weeks now. The website specs are actually wrong, mine came with 4 piston TRP brakes as well as ethirteen bottom bracket and cranks as opposed to the entry level shimano parts listed on the site. You can see in the last 3 photos of the bike on their website that the TRP brakes and ethirteen cranks are what's installed, the first photo is not what you'd be getting. I was super confused when I got the bike cause I thought I would be getting the 2 piston brakes which was the first thing I would have upgraded and almost ordered some new ones before the bike was delivered, glad I didn't. Also, the PNW rainer gen 3 dropper in 34.9 mm diameter seatpost (correct for Meta frames) are on sale for just $99 currently.
I can attest to that. My AL 5 showed up about 5 weeks ago. Ordered it end of april though, and after 2 delays it finally showed up end of september. I live in canada so I had to pay duty on it as well, but even still, the specs on this bike for the value crushed everything else even with the added duty cost involved. The next best contender I found from a Canadian standpoint was the YT jeffsy core 2, which is also a very well spec'd bike for the value but canyon was still a touch better IMO... but to make it even better, canyon dropped the price of the AL 5 from $3549 CDN (when I placed my order), down to $3299 before they had shipped it out to me yet, and I managed to get them credit me the difference which made the value just outstanding compared to everything else. Those Polygon T- 8's I believe they are called seem to also be a great value... but still not quite as well spec'd as the canyon and have less travel... and fox 34 rythms with no float x piggyback rear shock as opposed to the canyon with fox 36 rythms with the float x piggyback.... Now, that said canyon can be a pain in the ass to deal with though. When speaking with their customer service, it's like speaking to a mobile phone provider about bicycles.... they are clueless.... but I am thrilled with the bike so far... it's a trail monster. ... and just an FYI, they were available for pre- order and some sizes in stock just the other day if anyone is interested in them.... at least they were on the canadian site.... the 2023 models are listed at $3199 CDN. My guess is because they went from Raceface ride cranks to miranda delta, and from a deore cassette to sunrace on the 2023's... Marin and trek also had me very intrigued too... and the new 2023 trek fuels look very very cool IMO.
im currently with the alpien trail 7 too. its a good bike but unless you upgrade the wheels and the yari this bike doesnt feel very good. the yari at least in my opinion is not good enough and the wheels are a bit fragile. the cranks also broke on my bike but i dont think many people will be able to break them, another thing is a weird noise that i have from the frame that i cant get rid off. if you switch those parts (and the tires too) the geomtry of the bike is amazing and is very fun to ride
Check out Fezzari bikes. You can get a full carbon bike with a decent group set on it for around 4,000 - 4,500. A person I know rides on and its amazing for the money. They sell direct to consumer.
Thank you! I’ve been moving and have a lot of work right now turning a dump of a garage into a bike workshop 🤦🏼♂️ I’m hoping to get that finished this week and start the bike build next week. Wayyy behind on videos due to this 😬
I just looked at one of those online. Very interesting looking suspension design and seatstays. I have never seen one in person in the United States. Definitely have some good prices.
For the status, you should probably mention the crazy short chainstays. On the large sizes, for a tall guy... Might be a weird fit. Luckily I'm short af
The vitus is a 2022 model the new 290 is same price and commencal now is for sale at 2100/2300 ... I live in mexico and the bike cost me 3000😢 its crazy how expensive bikes are in my country thinking to buy in san diego and cross the border on my bike 😂
Yes! But I just moved and have been trying to get everything unpacked so I can do the bike build. I’m hoping to get the garage setup today so I can build the bike. Sorry for the delay 🤦🏼♂️
Had a Marin years ago, broke the frame and they gave me a really hard time. There is a reason they fell off the map. Let's hope they put their money where their hype is. Backed away from the San Quentin last year. The test ride didn't justify the hype. I leaning towards the Commencal or the Spectral in the next couple of years but for now I still have a 27.5 Remedy and there is nothing on the market that can compare for versatility.
I hate when companies do stuff like that. I didn’t get along with the Marin and have moved to other bikes. I’ve heard good things about Canyon customer service 👍
Wow, so pretty much copy and paste from the other reviewers! All 29ers... why the prejudice? 29ers aren't the answer for everyone, why not a 27.5 for those of us who like to play and ride technical instead of just roll over everything fast? Different bikes for different riders. Your doing a disservice due to bias.
Selling my Slash. There are already enough big brands making videos on expensive bikes. I want to refocus on finding a budget bike that doesn’t break the bank. This is just the journey I’m on right now. I still think the Slash is a great MTB.
I think this is a great choice. The Alpine trail combines great geometry and value. This bike is from the birth place of mountain biking. We have a friend that rides Northstar with us and he rides this bike and send a it. I think the Alpine trail E Bike is the best one in the market and it may be my next bike. What I also like too is if you spend $1000 more you get XT and top end suspension on this bike. I really like this bike and I think it was a great choice.
The XR is definitely a great option as well. I’m stoked for this bike and can’t wait to go ride NORCAL with you some day 👍🏻
@@JaredHoff yeah brother looking forward to it. We are n so cal now had to come down for a funeral in Carlsbad. We rode snow valley yesterday and will again today and back home tomorrow. If you are ever in so cal try Snow Valley and Snow Summit lift serviced riding. Two amazing bike parks. The geometry in the Marin s perfect.
I'm sold on number three the budget and ENDURO
Heck yeah 👍
Congrats on the new Marin. I personally have owned two Marin bikes over the last couple of years and they live up to their mantra which is Made For Fun. Great bikes for the price.
Awesome! Glad to hear that you’ve liked the Marin bikes. Made for fun 👍🏻 love having that on the top cap to remind me 🤘🏻
You are killing it Jared awesome to see . It’s a really nice put together a video and the way you speak is amazing. Great work.
Thank you so much bro 👍🏻 that means a lot to me. I don’t plan on being a UA-cam star, but I just try to be me and represent the most honest version of myself that I can. Thank you for the feedback. Sometimes I wonder if I’m bringing people value with these videos LOL
Had to check to make sure this was from my good friend Jamie. Good to hear from you bro!
Wow, nice crop of capable bikes and well thought overviews.
Congrats on Marin.
For anyone looking, YT Jeffsy and Polygon T7 also fit in that mix somewhere . . . Are there others maybe in the top 10?
Definitely others in the top ten, and definitely a lot of great bikes that I didn’t review this time 👍🏻
I just found your channel last night. Can't wait for future videos. The subject is a great one as most people can't afford to buy a 7 to 10K bike that you see in a lot of other channels.
Thank you bro! I truly appreciate the support 👍🏻
Like that somebody is concentrating on reasonable priced bikes!
There are definitely some good bikes at this price 👍🏻
A Giant Reign AL is also good
For sure 👍🏻
Your channel is awesome bro love the ex military vibes and you’re such a chill dude you got yourself a new longtime sub 🙏
Thank you a ton 👍🏻 that means a lot to me!
You will love the green machine! My son races his one in New Zealand for enduro and down hill. It’s fast 💨 down trails and very short in the back. We use vee tires 🛞 in winter and change to narrower maxxis assigais in summer
I’m really interested to see how the tires ride. I usually ride Maxxis, but will definitely ride the Flow tires until they wear out.
Great pick! I think you'll love it! I love my Marin and planning upgrade my yari fork soon as well! Great comparison video! Love that your getting a bike that can relate to us viewers!
Thank you! I’ve definitely started to look into Yari upgrade kits. Although, I want to ride it stock for a bit to see what it can handle.
Great video, as always!
Such a shame the canyon spectral wasn't available, I've heard so many good things about it and actually ordered the 27.5" version. However the marin is also very good, enjoy!
Thank you 👍🏻 Spectral is definitely a great option. I can’t wait to get the Marin
Hey are you pleased with spectral 27,5. I have ordered al 6 27,5.I am planning to ride in bike parks and urban dh.Do you think that this bike good and strong for it
I've had the trail 7 for a few weeks. Totally love it!!!
Awesome. Stoked for you! I can’t wait to get it 👍🏻
Marin - made for fun. Welcome to the family 💪🏾
Heck yeah! Thank you 👍🏻
I had the 2020 version of
The alpine trail 7 and it was a very good bike to ride. I had a lot of fun riding the trail in the Cali mountains…it can take really joy hits…
Awesome! I definitely plan on taking this bike down to Cali to ride some of those awesome trails.
Its also depend wich continent u live. For example in EU last week i bought spectral al6 for about 2400 USD. Also in Europe bikes like Specialized or trek are more expensive than in US :)
Word! Thanks for the info 👍🏻 Spectral AL6 is an awesome MTB
Marin made a nice package. The Yari just needs better seals & wipers from SKS and a Vorsprung Luftkappe. Include those on your 1st fork service and you will be pleased.
Thanks for the info. I’ll look into that
Does the spectral come with a dropper?
Yes, but some of these budget bikes don’t. I think all bikes should come with a dropper post.
Specialized had the Status on sale a few weeks ago. It was such a good deal I got a 140 and a 160
Heck yeah 🤙🏻Stoked for you!
I'm highly considering the yt jeffsey core 3 it has a great spec for the money and it's very versatile for a variety of terrain
That’s such a good bike. Do it! You won’t regret it 👍
Excellent choice
Thank you 🤘🏻
I can't wait ti see the bike
I’m suspect stoked on my choice. Can’t wait to get this bike and build it.
Nicely done video! I just ordered a YT Jeffsy Core 2 last week but have to wait a couple more weeks before it’s supposed to ship. I’m with you on the Spectral though, if it was available I might’ve done it. My bike got stolen a couple of weeks ago so I definitely didn’t wanna have to wait too long for a replacement 😅
Sorry to hear that you bike got stolen. You’re going to love the YT. Stoked for you 👍🏻
@@JaredHoff thanks man, luckily our homeowners insurance covered most the cost for the YT so it kinda worked out. Definitely stoked to get out on the new bike soon though!
what about Radon swoop al.
So many people mentioning that. Definitely and awesome MTB that I probably should have mentioned 👍🏻
I'd go Spectral (I did with the AL6 29er). It doesn't really require any upgrades out of the box but the other bikes have low end damping on the shock / forks, inferior brakes, and lower quality tyres etc which I'd want to replace. In the Spectral everything is balanced and there's nothing that makes me think I need to buy more components.
Awesome! It’s always great when you get a bike that you don’t need to upgrade 👍🏻
The 27.5 is fine
I’m a 29er fan, but would like to try mullet sometime
I have the new Commencal Meta AM 29 origin build in metallic green had it a few weeks now. The website specs are actually wrong, mine came with 4 piston TRP brakes as well as ethirteen bottom bracket and cranks as opposed to the entry level shimano parts listed on the site. You can see in the last 3 photos of the bike on their website that the TRP brakes and ethirteen cranks are what's installed, the first photo is not what you'd be getting. I was super confused when I got the bike cause I thought I would be getting the 2 piston brakes which was the first thing I would have upgraded and almost ordered some new ones before the bike was delivered, glad I didn't. Also, the PNW rainer gen 3 dropper in 34.9 mm diameter seatpost (correct for Meta frames) are on sale for just $99 currently.
Too bad Commencal has the wrong 2-Piston brakes on the spec sheet. That was definitely a reason I decided not to get it. Love that metallic green 👍🏻👍🏻
The marin Alpine trail series ride fantastic. they are a bike that put others to shame in Geo, ride quality and how they perform....
Glad to hear that! I can’t wait to ride this bike.
What about the radon swoop al 8.0?
Just heard about those. Some cool looking bikes for sure 🤘🏻
Where's the Radons at???
Definitely missed those
i want buy this marin .but they dont ship to hong kong
On man! I’m sorry to hear that 😞
Where is the YT Capra? Under 3k and amazing bike!
Is it under 3k now? I thought it’s was just over $3,000
Canyon would be my second choice, with Marin being on the top of the list, & to be honest Rift Zone 2 (or Alpine 7).
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Have you ever ridden a mullet? They are awesome.
No, but I want to try that.
The specs on the canyon was definitely the winner for me on this comparison. Too bad its not available.
The canyon definitely has a great spec. I’m stoked for the Marin though!
I can attest to that. My AL 5 showed up about 5 weeks ago. Ordered it end of april though, and after 2 delays it finally showed up end of september. I live in canada so I had to pay duty on it as well, but even still, the specs on this bike for the value crushed everything else even with the added duty cost involved. The next best contender I found from a Canadian standpoint was the YT jeffsy core 2, which is also a very well spec'd bike for the value but canyon was still a touch better IMO... but to make it even better, canyon dropped the price of the AL 5 from $3549 CDN (when I placed my order), down to $3299 before they had shipped it out to me yet, and I managed to get them credit me the difference which made the value just outstanding compared to everything else. Those Polygon T- 8's I believe they are called seem to also be a great value... but still not quite as well spec'd as the canyon and have less travel... and fox 34 rythms with no float x piggyback rear shock as opposed to the canyon with fox 36 rythms with the float x piggyback....
Now, that said canyon can be a pain in the ass to deal with though. When speaking with their customer service, it's like speaking to a mobile phone provider about bicycles.... they are clueless.... but I am thrilled with the bike so far... it's a trail monster. ... and just an FYI, they were available for pre- order and some sizes in stock just the other day if anyone is interested in them.... at least they were on the canadian site.... the 2023 models are listed at $3199 CDN. My guess is because they went from Raceface ride cranks to miranda delta, and from a deore cassette to sunrace on the 2023's...
Marin and trek also had me very intrigued too... and the new 2023 trek fuels look very very cool IMO.
@@Muskiehunter92Did you pay tax and import fees on the $3549 or the $3299?
im currently with the alpien trail 7 too. its a good bike but unless you upgrade the wheels and the yari this bike doesnt feel very good. the yari at least in my opinion is not good enough and the wheels are a bit fragile. the cranks also broke on my bike but i dont think many people will be able to break them, another thing is a weird noise that i have from the frame that i cant get rid off. if you switch those parts (and the tires too) the geomtry of the bike is amazing and is very fun to ride
Thank you for the advice 👍🏻 always good to hear from someone who has the bike.
Check out Fezzari bikes. You can get a full carbon bike with a decent group set on it for around 4,000 - 4,500. A person I know rides on and its amazing for the money. They sell direct to consumer.
Heck yeah! They’ve got some amazing builds 👍🏻
Great choice looking forward to the unboxing 🤙🏾💯
Thank you! I’ve been moving and have a lot of work right now turning a dump of a garage into a bike workshop 🤦🏼♂️ I’m hoping to get that finished this week and start the bike build next week.
Wayyy behind on videos due to this 😬
I think the conway wme 4.7 has a great price price for the parts carbon frame, fox suspension, trp brakes, sram nx for 3600€
Sounds like an amazing MTB 👍🏻
What about the Radon Swoop? 😁
I just looked at one of those online. Very interesting looking suspension design and seatstays. I have never seen one in person in the United States. Definitely have some good prices.
@@JaredHoff riding it since 2019, i will buy the same in few weeks 😁
What kind of bike doesn't have a dropper post ???
Right!
For the status, you should probably mention the crazy short chainstays. On the large sizes, for a tall guy... Might be a weird fit. Luckily I'm short af
Thanks for mentioning that! Definitely something to consider.
Best budget enduro bike undere 3k is for sure the radon swoop al8 or the cube stereo 170
I haven’t looked at those. I’ll have to check them out sometime 👍🏻
The vitus is a 2022 model the new 290 is same price and commencal now is for sale at 2100/2300 ... I live in mexico and the bike cost me 3000😢 its crazy how expensive bikes are in my country thinking to buy in san diego and cross the border on my bike 😂
lol 😂
has the bike arrived
Yes! But I just moved and have been trying to get everything unpacked so I can do the bike build. I’m hoping to get the garage setup today so I can build the bike. Sorry for the delay 🤦🏼♂️
That’s no problem I’m just excited
Radon swapp al 8.0 the best for me in that price
Awesome! Stoked for you 👍🏻
Have a look at Radon Bikes.
A few people have said that. Definitely some awesome bikes
@@JaredHoff yes, i am very happy with swoop 10 hd even if i as a normal not professionelle rider don't need Fox Factory
That Marin is a sick bike but personally I’d want more than 150 in the back for enduro racing. Depends on terrain too tho
I hear ya 👍🏻 We will see how it handles the trails.
Had a Marin years ago, broke the frame and they gave me a really hard time. There is a reason they fell off the map. Let's hope they put their money where their hype is. Backed away from the San Quentin last year. The test ride didn't justify the hype. I leaning towards the Commencal or the Spectral in the next couple of years but for now I still have a 27.5 Remedy and there is nothing on the market that can compare for versatility.
I hate when companies do stuff like that. I didn’t get along with the Marin and have moved to other bikes. I’ve heard good things about Canyon customer service 👍
Canyon Torque AL 5 $2929. #1
Great choice 👍
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Alpine trail 7
Yup 👍🏻
Status Chain stays are too short for Enduro
I kind of like shorter chain stays, but I have never raced enduro. I am thinking about entering an enduro race next season though
i kinda miss to yt capra
I kind of miss my YT Capra as well. Except no water bottle lol
I hope you didn't go with any Vitus bike like I did.
No, I didn’t but I seriously thought about it.
Status geometry suck for enduro
Wow, so pretty much copy and paste from the other reviewers! All 29ers... why the prejudice? 29ers aren't the answer for everyone, why not a 27.5 for those of us who like to play and ride technical instead of just roll over everything fast? Different bikes for different riders. Your doing a disservice due to bias.
@@seano218 make a 27.5” only UA-cam channel. Maybe that’s what we need.
@@JaredHoff I agree, that's a good idea. It would be fair for all types of riders to be represented in this hobby/sport.
But you already have a killer bike..are u selling your slash to downgrade to these shitty bikes ..I don' get it
Selling my Slash. There are already enough big brands making videos on expensive bikes. I want to refocus on finding a budget bike that doesn’t break the bank. This is just the journey I’m on right now. I still think the Slash is a great MTB.
Should of got the status
Status is too Heavy and slow for enduro but very good park or shuttle bike
I hear ya 👍🏻 Hopefully I’ll be happy with the Marin.
Nice video! Found you from your comment on Think Media and I love supporting fellow small creators! Dropped a like and sub :)
Awesome man! Thank you 👍🏻 Love think media.
But will it make the TWE? The Whole Enchilada (MOAB)! 29er? muh!
I need to ride that trail