Genesis Seconds Out - Revisiting One Of My Favorite Concerts Ever!
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- Опубліковано 26 лип 2024
- After getting all excited for the upcoming Genesis Atlantic 75 series titles coming our way, I decided to revisit Genesis Seconds Out, the live album from the 1977 World Tour for the Wind and Wuthering album. Genesis Seconds Out was recorded in Paris, with the bulk of the album done on that tour and one cut taken from the Trick of the Tail tour of the previous year. Seconds Out features material from Nursery Cryme, Foxtrot, Selling England By The Pound, The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway, Trick of the Tail, and Wind and Wuthering. It is also the last album to feature lead guitarist Steve Hackett.
The edition under review is the Abbey Road Half Speed Remaster which features the Nick Davis remix of the original album.
The band consisted of:
Tony Banks
Mike Rutherford
Phil Collins
Steve Hackett
Seconds Out features the addition of Chester Thompson on drums, with one track, The Cinema Show featuring Bill Bruford
00:00 Introduction
00:47 Support
01:59 Background
03:10 Chester Thompson and Phil Collins
04:33 Track by Track
14:03 Pressing and Conclusion
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My first time seeing them was 1976 or 77, perfection!
I've saw them many times over the decades and they're always, always fantastic!
As a teenager in the 80s, I knew Genesis from their pop hits from their then recent albums, but I knew they had a deeper past. Seconds Out was my gateway to the songs of the Hackett/Gabriel era and once I bought this, I collected all albums that came before it. Life-changing for sure.
Absolutely. I guess this was my gateway too, though it was happening in real time, so the pop era hadn't started yet.
The beauty of I Know What I Like from this concert and on any following Genesis tour is the Stagnation part from Trespass. Stagnation is one of my favorites songs of all time. I saw Genesis on the 2007 tour and recently on the final 2021 tour...both times they played I Know What I Like with the Stagnation part....that was amazing and will never forget.
Thank you for bringing that up because I forgot to! Yes, a nice nod to Trespass which is otherwise not represented on this set. Awesome you got to see them a few times and that they were still doing this song
Glad to see someone as excited about this album as I am. The first Genesis album I ever heard was A Trick of the Tail, then Wind and Wuthering, etc. So I was introduced to Collins on vocals first, and to this day I prefer his versions of even the early stuff. He was such a powerful singer for such a little guy. My first concert experience with Genesis was in August of 1980. I was 18. They had finished a European leg of a tour and they came to the U.S. for part two. They scheduled their first show at a little 10,000 seat venue in Peoria, IL, the Peoria Civic Center. Wasn't unusual for bands to start a tour in a less obvious place....try out the effects and try out a song set list to see how the audience would respond. Luckily, they played Suppers Ready - I was thrilled!! (They stopped playing it on much of the remainder of the tour - so I was fortunate!!). And, of course, they ended the show with Los Endos....it was as if a freight train moved through the arena. And Phil hopped off the drum platform, gave his famous thumbs up to the crowd as they walked off stage, and I knew I had just witnessed something that - quite frankly - no other band in the world could do. So powerful and perfect. Still my all time favorite band, and Phil is still my all time favorite vocal performer. Thanks for your sharing your passion. I've watched a few of your other videos so far, and you have a new subscriber.
Awesome to have you here, and sharing this vivid memory. I remember one of the shows in which Afterglow was performed. It was so powerful and moving I had to hold back my tears, as I was with some friends and I didn't want to feel embarrassed. Phil may have well been ascending to heaven. It was that impressive! I saw 100s of concerts in my teens and never was more excited than seeing Genesis.
So happy to have you as a subscriber. I hope you find a lot to like.
A superb live album. My favourite live album along with Thin Lizzy Live and Dangerous. I also saw that tour back then in 1977, it was great to see Steve do this in its entirety on his tour, and fair play to Steve for keeping the real spirit of Genesis music alive. Nice vid man.
Thanks for your comment! I hope to see Steve someday soon and I agree, he's doing a beautiful job with this material. I also saw Thin Lizzy at that time, one of my first concerts I believe.
Thanks for revisiting this album - one of my favourite Genesis albums and easily my favourite live album. I discovered Genesis around Trick of the Tail but didn’t catch them live until Duke but I still have the emotional response to this one. And I agree with you that Cinema Show is the best - the ending is just glorious.
Sounds like our journey discovering Genesis was similar. I remember that Duke show so well. And Then There Were Three tour was good too. The songs still affect me and this record brought it all back in waves of pleasure. Particularly Cinema Show!
Thanks! Enjoy a nice coffee, bro!
Thanks so much! I really appreciate your support and encouragement!
I agree with you and I believe out of all 75 of those records the Genesis are the only ones I want! I think they are going to be something special!
Thanks for your comment! Yup I'm going to save a lot of money on this series, meaning I only want the Genesis titles I covered, a few Yes albums and maybe an upgrade on a CSN title. Everything else is wait and see.
Recent subscriber, here. I listened to this album a couple of days ago, so the timing of your video is cool. I actually listen to it 2 or 3 times a year. I love it. This version of "Supper's Ready" is my favorite. Collins does an amazing job on vocals and the final section, which you mentioned, is utterly transcendent. The whole album is great from start to finish and it's rightfully considered one of the best live albums, ever!
Welcome to the channel and thank you for your comments! It really is one of the most beautiful live albums I've ever heard! So cool that you have it fresh in your mind while you're hearing my comments about each section. I'm sure you can tell I get a bit emotional when I hear this. I wonder if other people react as I do. I had tears of joy in my eyes at several points throughout. The music they have created just does this to me. I don't know if it's the intricate melodies, striking chord changes, moving lyrics, stunning virtuosity or what, but it's like nothing else.
@@ThePressingMatters Oh, yes! I've been moved to tears many times while hearing Second's Out over the years. It's everything you say it is.
Good evening, I also discovered Genesis in 78, one of my fond memories. We were in Germany and the sound tests were done the day before the festival around midnight.
Awesome memories, thanks for sharing!
Thank you for this post. I saw Genesis in 1981 in Zurich, and this album to me is one of the best live albums ever. You said everything that's to be said...afterglow f.e. ..just wow...melotron sounds all over!
How lucky we were to experience this. I'm so glad you enjoyed this video. I loved making it!
And once again nice concise video!
Micheal I'm so glad you liked it! This period is such a thrill for me. Did you ever get to see Genesis?
@ThePressingMatters yes I have but after Duke.. but was turned on to Genesis back in 77
When my neighbor
Lent me, kc in the court , yes fragile, pf wish you were here , and trick of the tail... seen Genesis x3 , Peter x5 and womad, gtr with both Steve's..
And endless yes concerts and the mighty crim a few times
I saw them on the next two tours, so And Then There Were Three and Duke. Each had it own charm. I also saw Gabriel twice, for Security and So. Would love to see Steve Hackett do his Genesis Revisited tours. So great you discovered those wonderful albums. I just unearthed an album in my collection I forgot all about. Gentle Giant - Octopus. Have you gotten into them? If not, you might really love them too.
@ThePressingMatters November 2 is Peter Gabriel day in my home town .. Peter was presented the key to the city 11/2/82
My experience of this release (Abbey Road) was emotionally charged as yours. I bought the OG on the day of its release, and have always loved it, but this new version had me in bits. I get misty-eyed just thinking about it. It's incredible.
I saw both the Trick of the Tail and Wind and Wuthering tours (three times on the latter, two when I was front row, centre) and they have been milestones in my life. 'Trick' in Glasgow in '76 especially.
However, I've always had a deep reservation with this album. The sequencing is all to hell. 'Afterglow' comes too early, 'I Know What I Like' and 'The Lamb/Musical Box' were the encores, dammit, and should have been on side four, closing the album. By the way, during 'I Know What I Like' when the crowd were laughing and cheering, it was when Phil was throwing and catching his tambourine. It was his party-piece.
A couple of years ago I did a Genesis 'Worst to Best' video and it's on my channel. 100k views so far, which is insane!
Hi thanks for your great comments! Now that you mention it, the sequencing is a bit wonky. I don't recall the exact orders of songs from the shows I saw. But what you propose makes sense. Wouldn't it be nice to have an expanded set in complete chronological order. You also reminded me of the Phil goofing off with the tambourine bit.
Still this album provokes deep emotions for those who experienced these songs live. Thanks for sharing how it affected you!
Congrats on the huge views for your video. I'll search it out and add another view for you :-)
@@ThePressingMatters Thanks. I must also say, having just discovered your channel and watched a few videos, I so love that your enthusiasm for the music shines through. I'm not exacting when it comes to pressings, but enthusiasm is infectious and does you great credit. Keep it up. I'll be watching. 🙂
How are you feeling about The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway? I'm going to be reviewing the new 45 but my listen last night had me realizing it's got a lot of tracks that are not up to their best, particularly the last side. Such an odd way to close an album.
@@ThePressingMatters When I did my rundown of Genesis albums, although it was a close-run thing, I plumped for TLLDOB as my number one, mainly because it still offered surprises after almost fifty years. I acknowledge that it has a little too much filler, but can appreciate that even those musical interludes were there to serve the concept.
I'd be keen to hear the new 45 version, but after checking the prices of SEBTP (following your review), these albums are too expensive and tricky to easily get hold of in the UK for me to take the plunge. TLLDOB is £150 upwards (plus shipping) - ouch!
I think I'm generally circumspect about chasing optimum pressings because (for me) the listening experience has as much to do about the listening room, the kit on which its played, and most importantly, how much concentration one brings to a listening session. There's no point in having the best pressing in existence is, at the same time as playing it, one is vacuuming the carpet or checking one's mobile phone.
If someone would like me to review the 45 rpm releases for UA-cam, please send me copies. I'll even return them afterwards! 😄
@@davidatkinson-lifematters4826
That last part about vacuuming had me laughing :-)
I think that my recent listen could be a good angle to come from if the 45 does in fact keep me riveted from start to finish. Sometimes a sonic jump can have that affect on me and on my appreciation for each moment of the music.
Oh man, I was touting this the other day to you and your channel and I didn't realize until today that the mastering was done off of the Nick Davis mix. I just pulled out my copy from 2019 and in very fine print on the inner sleeve I found his name listed. I thought Abbey Road and Miles Showell, used the original 2-inch tape, but I was wrong! I'm now going to a/b my nice clean original and do a comparison. Thanks for the video and it is so cool that you saw that tour! I was in 7th grade at the time and I didn't get into Genesis until 1980. I'm always fascinated to talk to someone who either saw the PG era or the early PC 76-1980 era. Thanks, Scott!
Please let me you find out with the comparison! I've heard the original is a bit more atmospheric, and the remix more clear and powerful. Can't wait for your thoughts
I too am a huge Genesis fan. Luv this album. There will never be an alternative better than the otiginal release and original band, but Steve Hackett's band has three Live multi-LP releases out that are simply outstanding! One is sort of a greatest hits. One is a replay on Selling England. One is a replay on Seconds Out. All are outstanding for both performance and especially sound. Highly highly recommended.
Hi Robert,
I've seen some clips of Steve in concert doing this material and it does look and sound compelling. I must pick up one of his releases. I will check one out and get back with a comment or possibly a review!
What a great episode Scott! Now I must listen to my copy tomorrow (or perhaps even tonight!) and experience it all over again!
Thanks Oz! It's so fun to review a record I know like the back of my hand. The ability to tie it in with my memories of this made it all the more special. I had heard your video clips of this pressing on one of your super set ups and was convinced this pressing would be excellent.
@@ThePressingMatters ❤❤❤
Both me and my wife were at the Invisible touch tour at Wembley ok before we ever met 😁. Great video .
Thank you, Tony
Cool story! Must have been a good show too!
One of my absolute favorite lps! We're big Genesis fans here at our home, and this one is on the turntable quite a bit. We saw the wonderful Steve Hackett brilliantly perform this lp live last year in Philly. Blessings, and thanks for your excellent vids!
Hi Charles! We Genesis fans are a passionate bunch! I've yet to catch one of Steve Hackett's tours, but from what I have seen on video, they look and sound outstanding. I love that he's keeping the flame alive, since he is such a big part of the sound of Genesis leading up to this era. I don't think they ever fully recaptured his unique sound again, though many fine albums followed. I appreciate your comments and encouragement!
@@ThePressingMatters Firth of Fifth guitar solo. Word. Right up there with Alex Lifeson's solo on La Villa Strangiato.
Oh my yes! I haven't covered any Rush yet but I will be getting to it. My friends and I saw them over a few tours, I think 2112 and Hemispheres, probably Farewell to Kings too! My memory is a little hazy (I wonder why!) but I really enjoyed them!
Cinema show is bruford drumming for the last tour in paris
That's right. He's wonderful in that track. Talk about three great drummers!
Great video Scott. I love this album and the ‘76 live video recorded in Scotland and England. Gives me chills every time I watch. Thanks to you getting emotional I went and ordered the 45 RPM version of trick of the tail, even though I’ve got the original LP. It’s my first 45 RPM purchase and the sonics on that album warrant it.
Hi Sal, Thank you so much for watching and commenting. I need to take a look for that video. The Trick of the tail 45 is the one I'm most excited about. I think you chose the we one that will be the most impressive of all!
@@ThePressingMatters it’s called Genesis in Concert but only 45 minutes.
I just watched this film after you having brought it to my attention. I had no idea it existed. What a thrill it was! I'm so glad at least this much exists. What a joy to see Phil having so much fun, and delivering the vocal performances with such passion. I just loved watching him. Everything else was just as I remember from the following tour. Thank you so much for bringing it to my attention. I urge other viewers to watch it.
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@@ThePressingMatters glad to hear. Wish I had seen this live
Great review Scott. I have an Aust original press which I will revisit asap. I remember when I bought it being super intrigued at how Suppers Ready would sound with the Collins vocals - it’s a stunning performance!
Hi John,
Thanks so much for your comment! I wondered the same, but in concert, and on the record, by the time Suppers Ready comes up, Phil has already won you over with his fresh persona and passionate vocals. I distinctly remember a feeling of cheering him on, and the audience was fully in agreement. We showered him with love and approval for not only stepping into this role but making it one of the most compelling things we'd ever seen or heard. I remember exiting the venue and people were ecstatic, literally blown away.
@@ThePressingMatters Thanks for the first hand account of the emotion of that night. A significant time for the band - they had proved themselves in the studio that things were still great after Pete, but the live show was another thing to conquer. Cheers 👍
@johns126 That's so true , and why we fans were rooting for Phil to be successful in person. Even the most skeptical were won over.
Thanks for this Scott. This album brings back some great memories for me. Genesis on the W&W tour was my first concert (2nd being Pink Floyd on the Animals tour) & not much has come close to those 2 gigs since. I still have my ticket & program & I can remember queuing up for 6 hours on a freezing cold & wet day in Manchester UK to get tickets. IMO Seconds Out is the last great Genesis album. Yes they produced some good music after this and although the Gabriel era will always be my favourite, Hackett leaving was a bigger miss. As you rightly say though the inclusion of only one track from W&W was a mistake. As I recall, the only 2 tracks from that album they didn’t play were Wot Gorilla & Blood on the Rooftops. Agree again that this album has to be played loud but will stick with my OG UK pressing as it sounds good enough to me. Keep up the great content.
Thank you so much for your comment. You certainly started concertgoing on a high note! Good memories and observations.
Great review, Scott and makes me want to find a version of this, even if it’s just on CD. I prefer the Gabriel era Genesis but you’ve now sold me on this!
There is some variations in Genesis CDs - various remasters and remix. Might have to do a bit of research to get the best sounding one. Glad you liked this video!
@@ThePressingMatters thanks for the advice, Scott 👍🏻
Saw the Tour in Boston. Spectacular.
Hi Thomas, I might have been there! I know we often saw concerts in Boston, Hartford or Springfield. I just can't remember. Was the Boston show at the Garden? Or the Orpheum?
The Music Hall. No longer exists. Trick tour was at the Orpheum. Saw The Lamb there too.
@thomasmcgivney4519 Wow, two great venues to see a performance. Sad to hear the Music Hall is gone.
Thanks Scott! Love your emotions showing through, like in your video on the Chet Baker Sings Tone Poet album! I know lots of people prefer the “post PG” era but please revisit the “Genesis Live” single LP concert recording of just 5 tracks with PG. The raw power and the vividness of the instrumentations, especially Phil’s drumming and Mike’s Rickenbecker bass guitar were just dynamite!
Hi David! I love it when an album really moves me and those reviews are the most fun for me to do. I'm going to have a lot of fun as the new reissues roll out. Of course I love the PG era and Genesis Live is a fine document of that moment. How I wish it were longer! I haven't been back to it in some time, but will be sure to revisit in my rekindled Genesis obsession!
@@ThePressingMatters I know a lot of people will hate me saying “Squonk can’t climb Solsbury Hill”!!
@davidchan8108 That made me smile because you have a good point!
yo yo Scott.
I have a Charisma release of this that’s in my pre-2000 batch.
Need to get it out and spin !!
You need to send it to me! I know you have multiples :-)
I have heard that the original has a bit more atmosphere, and the half speed remix excels in clarity, and bass extension. This is one where I never felt the processing and remixing did it harm.
Beautiful review Scott! this is exactly how I felt when I heard it back in 1978, and then I was at the 1979 tour in Europe, I saw them twice in December in Paris,it was magical, I still remember vividly these concerts to this day. I love Peter Gabriel, but Phil Collins did a great job taking over from him the vocals and the presence, I did't miss him in this concert.
Your channel is probably the most genuine when it comes to discussing music, Many thanks again.
Greetings from France!
Hi Ali
Thank you for your kind words regarding the channel! This video was a joy to make, and to hear this again on my updated system was like a time machine! Every emotion was intact and came flooding back into my consciousness. I never once felt sad that it wasn't Gabriel up there. I too love Gabriel, and was happy to see him on the Security and So tours. I do love watching the old clips of Gabriel in costume. Have you seen the Midnight Special clips? They restored Watcher of the Skies and one other performance and the look spectacular.
@@ThePressingMatters many thanks for taking the time to reply. yes I discovered Midnight Special recently, I watched many of my favorite bands in concert, I always try to find old clips of PG with his costumes and makeup, he has such a presence on stage, he attracts your full attention, I also saw him on the Security tour back in 1982 in Ann Arbor, MI, during my college years, unforgettable like Nat King Cole use to sing it!!
@@alitabbal9529 Did he enter through the rear of the theater with the drummers?
@@ThePressingMatters Yes he did! they started with "the rhythm of the heat" with all the percussion and the climax at the end, impressive...
That was an impressive entrance! That was also one of my favorite shows.
Seconds Out is the best Genesis album even because this record is among the Gabriel era and the Collins era and the arrangements of the Gabriel era are more modern and less baroque...only flaw on this masterpiece is the lack of the piano intro of Firth of Fifth. After Seconds Out my choices for the other best Genesis albums are : Trick or Tail....The Lamb and Duke.
You're absolutely on point about this balancing the two eras perfectly and giving the older material a fresh approach that still remains timeless. I want to believe that the piano into was played in concert but I can't recall personally. Perhaps it was edited out for fear of turning off new audiences with its heavily 'classical' rather than rock feel. I agree with all your choices for best, but might add Selling England By The Pound for the full Fifth of Firth, and Cimema Show.
Thought bruford drummed on this tour
On this record, it is Thompson except for The Cinema Show which is Bruford, as that track was a year earlier .
Wasn’t Hacketts Guitar mixed rather low on this album.
I've heard that story, perhaps it was on the original. This is a remix and I don't feel like it's lacking presence in any way. The famous solos and embellishments are there to hear in all their glory!
You forgot Bill Bruford
He'll be mentioned when I discuss his track Cinema Show