btw if you lower a car with solid rear axel, the whole rear end is gonna shift towards one side because the cross bar in the back is pushing it, you need an adjustable one
Don't know if someone already said that but it seems it have a panhard bar on the rear axle so when you raise and lower the axle it shift a little on left and right too, you need a adjustable panhard bar to centre the axle. Love this kind of projects Marek, keep it on with the great content guys!
Now that's an improvement. Looks way better without the black tint. It's gonna sit nice once it's done. Also i think I like the black seats more then the cream ones.
@@RMJerich0 ну не надо тут, Жига - нормальный кар) Со своими проблемками, но не прям уж сакс. А вообще, все олдовые тачки примерно такие же. Просто тогда так делали.
Have you check parts for fiat/seat 124? It is basically the same car, and I am sure you can get those parts in Spain and Italy! Also wide arches, which look really nice on those cars!😊
старче у нас столько тюнячек на эту машину сколько ты и представить не можешь какой фиат какой сеат заходим на таймтурбо или автоrx или на клабтурбо и как говорится башляем по полной по итогу получаем гипержигуль
Щиииишь🤙🏼 Вот он и стилёк подъехал) Ждём, когда данное чудо упадёт на пузо) Да, как сказал владелец: она не стала низкой, но стала ниже) и в этом так же есть свой стиль) Красавцы!) Ловлю максимум фана с этого небольшого проекта и с эмоций самих ребят)🔥
Adjustable panhard bar. Offset in the rear is probably fine. You can cut your existing panhard bar in half, shorten one half a bit, then weld one half to a nut and half to a matching bolt so it is adjustable to get it just right.
If you want to get a better suspension you need to use the springs from a Niva because the material is thicker, you just need to cut out a bit. On my lada i cut out at the rear 1,5 rounds out and at the front 1 round.
loving the lada. my favourite night ride car so far ideas for vibes tint side indicators orange to match the rear lights remove big rubber blocks from front and rear bumper remove wind deflectors from window shorten panhard rod by 20mm to centralise rear axle from lowering
For the front coils i personally use Mercedes 123 300d front coil cut in half ( yes only one is needed) in my 2101 and its fine. Rear coils is from Saab 900 fronts cut to lenght…. Fine setup from junkyard 😂
Вообщем не знаю, писали ли ниже но, как доморощенный гажулист, скажу что ставить койлы это бесполезное и дорогое баловство. Вполне хватает Нива пружин и стоек (их вообще можно свободно купить в Польше?) Правда она будет слишком жесткая местами, но с вашими дорогами вроде не так уж и критично будет. И да, чтобы добавить развал надо поставить более длинные болты на нижние рычаги. На задний мост надо поставить панару чтобы она не уходила. И в заключении, дропнуть сильнее нынешнего без резки арок будет проблематично (а резать арки грех) так что я советую остановиться на том что есть сейчас. (Имхо, но когда морда дропнута сильнее кормы это выглядит спортивно, покрайней мере у нас это считается красивым) Да и вообще Марек, ты настолько делаешь стиль, что ставить ГБО станет не экономией а элементом стиля)) К слову, дико порадовало то что вы решили не пилить кузов оставить все родное железо. Подход мать твою! P.S Господи убери эти брызговики, они выглядят ужасно. А еще по возможности достань старые зеракла (да в них не видно но зато они выглядят нормально а не как эти лапухи от 2112)
как приятно смотреть как на западе ребят тоже вставляют наши ведра) если сможешь найти, то советую поставить оригинальный ранний салон, цветов много на выбор, а арки раскатать вообще не проблема, ничего резать не придется
I'm the proud owner of a bogstandard 1.8T VW New Beetle, and I'm considering a classic Lada as a weekend car. I just love the fact that it will instantly punish you for not "driving" it properly. That and low power drifting. If I ever aquire a Lada, I will make it a bucket list item to drift it in the snowy mountains of Poland. Shoutouts to Stanny ;) edits: drunk typo's
Disassemble tail lights and wash them from inside, they’ll look great and all back of the car will be so good looking (from my experience of detailing my Lada).
Love Ladas. They have a bit of a mixed reputation in North America, but honestly whats not to love about a cheap, light, small, dead simple, easily repairable car that can run on basically any fuel with minor modifications. Also, I love the look, classic 70s style, really reminds me of older Toyotas and Nissans. Id love a Lada Niva or the legend version. It'd be perfect for Canadian winters
Also after watching this I really want to find a lada over here in nz if possible and get my friend to sacrifice his mx5 and body swap it with a lada and call it the ladiata
If you need to get camber at the back of the car you can get a kit from e30 that installs bolt on on lada people in russia remake it for this purpose, or you can just bay an e30 rear axle and redo it yourselves. for the front you need to buydrift levers from club turbo that will give a whole bunch of different settings to choose from. To lower it you either can buy coil overs from ajs ( a shop in russia) or you need to buy “ss” shock absorber and some NIVA springs connect to spring for one place( to make the suspension tougher) and cut off 2+ coils off spring
Exactly what I envisioned seriously first go at it from last vid. Just need that roll/fender pull . Also lowering a solid axle chassis well make the rear of the body push to one side . Need to make a adjustable panhard bar to center the axle . Engine swap a year from now 🤔. I could see a ported 2 rotor 12a style in it , dual carb , dizzy . Simple and almost period correct . Keep the progress going loving builds seriously 👊🏼🍻🖤
Found your channel last week and now I've watched most of your videos from the past year. Amazing stuff you get hooked right away! Keep doing what you're doing! Love from Sweden
You don`t need coilovers to this car. Ther is too much options for lada suspention. Start from niva springs. They realy hard. And there is many and many options! Good luck guys! Hello from Russia!
Для Польши и западной Европы может это и интересный проект, но для Украины, расии и тд уже заезженный до дыр контент! этих жигулей уже тысячи проектов было. Но вы все равно красавцы, смотрю с 20к подпищиков!😘
there's no coilovers for ladas, we install stiffer springs (usually from nivas) and shocks, or you can weld together two stock springs, as i did, leaving stock shocks. yeah, car's gonna have a very wobbly ride, but it's as stiff as you can get. and btw, on stock front lower arms bolts, max camber is 1.5-2,5°, depending on how low your car is. if you want more camber, you gotta install longer bolts and last: if you put 7-7.5J wheels on the back, especially via spacers, the only option to substantionaly lower a car is to cut the arches. but the vast majority of stance guys here in Russia dont do that, they just accept their fate, that fornt is gonna be lower anyway. front arches can be rolled more than back ones, and it might be a way to go with such wheels. ps. and throw away those horrible mud flaps, i beg you. thore are considered cringe in Russia)
I wonder if maybe fiat 125 suspention would fit the lada. Marek buying lada inspires me to buy 2107 model. My problem is that I dont have a lot of money and I like old cars and Id like to have "project car". I was thinking of buying a civic, but most of the offers in Poland are such rust buckets that its not even worth looking for. Another plus for a lada is that I love this simple design.
I think its the same chassis that fiat made for the seat 124 and people rally those maybe you should look into that. Here in spain, or in italy for the fiat 124, you might be able to find coils and other interesting stuff. ;)
There are tazfab coilovers, but not sure if it's worth it. Some people recommend to use UAZ springs, they are stiffer than stock. Also you need to make rear мост holding bar shorter or make threads in it for different settings, because that's why one wheel sticks out more
It was a cool lada built in Norway,, he had take a Niva ?? and put a Ford Cosworth engine in it,that was a really sleeper,,Ill just notice your channel, and abb after first video,Thanks for cool stuff, ✌👍🚗🏍🏎🏅🏅🏁🏁🏁🏁
The Russians came up with a crazy way, there are custom coilovers, they are called Shishkin's workshop, we also put an adjustable stick (panara) in the back to align the bridge when we cut the springs, put the brakes from the front-wheel drive Lada and that's it, the Zhiguli tuning is ready😎😎😎
Man, this is so nice, although I never liked Ladas this one looks mad already! Thanks for removing the ugly tint and wheels, it's getting there. Maybe would be nice to keep the rear a bit higher than front - looks kinda cool on this car. Keep it up guys, love the great content!
Looks good so far. 👍👍 Cool look. Are you aiming for ビップ車 look? Perhaps change the camber so the wheels fit under the arches better. Also get fender mounted mirrors. (If it's legal where you live) some people put crystals on the logs to outline it and look shiny. There's also a product (I don't know what it's called) that people apply to the tires to make them super black. Some people run stretched tires but that's not good for daily driving at all. I hope it turns out great!.
Hey! from experience, for a radical understatement of drift and collapse a rear beam from a bmw e30 is placed, in front the levers are either customized independently for collapse or bought ready-made (for drift or stens) if the understatement is not as radical and the wheels are not as wide as yours, then basically the springs are from fret niva round, shocks are put through spacers to the suspension travel remained and the bumpers on the bridge and above the springs are cut off and removed.
Shorten the rear axle and fabricate a 4 or 3 link set up with some round tubing. That will help lots. It will call out for a butt load of custom fabrication, but you'll be leading the way on that regard.
Bruv if u need some tuning parts, look after on Hungarian sites, we tune Ladas since the dawn of man :D We usually take for the rear spring some BigPolski springs and then cut its already lowers with 2cm, and for the front some Niva springs, with the niva u can cut plenty.
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btw if you lower a car with solid rear axel, the whole rear end is gonna shift towards one side because the cross bar in the back is pushing it, you need an adjustable one
Yes yes yes!!!! My old yota mini truck only rubbed on the passenger side 😂 a must to center the axle, makes it feel much better driving
Your comment needs a heart, hope the Nightride boys are gonna see it ^^
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"Watt's linkage" could fix that issue i think, but idk where they could get that
Panhardbar gang.
As an American, I'm glad to say I know what a Lada is.
0:11 The car, the drift, the words, the accent... pure UA-cam perfection
Don't know if someone already said that but it seems it have a panhard bar on the rear axle so when you raise and lower the axle it shift a little on left and right too, you need a adjustable panhard bar to centre the axle. Love this kind of projects Marek, keep it on with the great content guys!
Now that's an improvement. Looks way better without the black tint. It's gonna sit nice once it's done. Also i think I like the black seats more then the cream ones.
Они строят русскую машину в японском стиле,находясь в Польше)
Panowie Worldwide 🤠
and they make videos about it in English
A hotel? Trivago
Intercontinental Bajers
Ахуеть, никто же не умеет читать название
Absolutely love this car and Marek's vision with it. Great to see something unique and old skool getting proper fitment. Keep it up guys!
well, you probably never driven it,lol. vaz sucks trust me :)
@@RMJerich0 ну не надо тут, Жига - нормальный кар) Со своими проблемками, но не прям уж сакс. А вообще, все олдовые тачки примерно такие же. Просто тогда так делали.
Have you check parts for fiat/seat 124?
It is basically the same car, and I am sure you can get those parts in Spain and Italy!
Also wide arches, which look really nice on those cars!😊
This needs to be upvoted ^
Up for this comment
старче у нас столько тюнячек на эту машину сколько ты и представить не можешь какой фиат какой сеат
заходим на таймтурбо или автоrx или на клабтурбо и как говорится башляем по полной
по итогу получаем гипержигуль
I think that they can also use parts from the fiat/abarth 125 or the fiat 128
"iresa" has got a lot of parts of theese cars, in spain
Nightride always makes my days better when they upload a new video!
Сместилась задняя ось из-за того, что тяга поперечная сдвинула мост, нужно сделать её регулируемой)
Pishi po angliski
@@Povilas7 The rear axle has shifted due to the fact that the transverse link has moved the axle, you need to make it adjustable
@@Povilas7 Марек вроде знает русский :)
@@Povilas7 sosi chlen
@@Povilas7 smestilas zadnyaya os' iz-za togo, shto tyaga poperechnaya sdvinula most, nujno sdelat' yeyo reguliruemoy)
Щиииишь🤙🏼 Вот он и стилёк подъехал) Ждём, когда данное чудо упадёт на пузо) Да, как сказал владелец: она не стала низкой, но стала ниже) и в этом так же есть свой стиль) Красавцы!) Ловлю максимум фана с этого небольшого проекта и с эмоций самих ребят)🔥
Стиль в том что скакать на отбойниках пилиным?
Adjustable panhard bar. Offset in the rear is probably fine. You can cut your existing panhard bar in half, shorten one half a bit, then weld one half to a nut and half to a matching bolt so it is adjustable to get it just right.
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Waiting for them to build a golfff bra
Jah neh bruh...
If you want to get a better suspension you need to use the springs from a Niva because the material is thicker, you just need to cut out a bit. On my lada i cut out at the rear 1,5 rounds out and at the front 1 round.
Круто
Mate this thing is pure fire. Superb work.
loving the lada. my favourite night ride car so far
ideas for vibes
tint side indicators orange to match the rear lights
remove big rubber blocks from front and rear bumper
remove wind deflectors from window
shorten panhard rod by 20mm to centralise rear axle from lowering
Glad to see Marek building his dream car
For the front coils i personally use Mercedes 123 300d front coil cut in half ( yes only one is needed) in my 2101 and its fine. Rear coils is from Saab 900 fronts cut to lenght…. Fine setup from junkyard 😂
Reminds me of late 70’s early 80’s JDM. Love their mods. Keep on keeping on! Greetings from LA🖖🏽
Plus Minus ....perfect german Dude ^^
Badass lada, getting look better
Вообщем не знаю, писали ли ниже но, как доморощенный гажулист, скажу что ставить койлы это бесполезное и дорогое баловство. Вполне хватает Нива пружин и стоек (их вообще можно свободно купить в Польше?) Правда она будет слишком жесткая местами, но с вашими дорогами вроде не так уж и критично будет. И да, чтобы добавить развал надо поставить более длинные болты на нижние рычаги. На задний мост надо поставить панару чтобы она не уходила. И в заключении, дропнуть сильнее нынешнего без резки арок будет проблематично (а резать арки грех) так что я советую остановиться на том что есть сейчас.
(Имхо, но когда морда дропнута сильнее кормы это выглядит спортивно, покрайней мере у нас это считается красивым)
Да и вообще Марек, ты настолько делаешь стиль, что ставить ГБО станет не экономией а элементом стиля))
К слову, дико порадовало то что вы решили не пилить кузов оставить все родное железо. Подход мать твою!
P.S Господи убери эти брызговики, они выглядят ужасно. А еще по возможности достань старые зеракла (да в них не видно но зато они выглядят нормально а не как эти лапухи от 2112)
I think Marek is a bit happier since the Lada purchase and I love it ❤️😊
как приятно смотреть как на западе ребят тоже вставляют наши ведра)
если сможешь найти, то советую поставить оригинальный ранний салон, цветов много на выбор, а арки раскатать вообще не проблема, ничего резать не придется
I'm the proud owner of a bogstandard 1.8T VW New Beetle, and I'm considering a classic Lada as a weekend car. I just love the fact that it will instantly punish you for not "driving" it properly. That and low power drifting. If I ever aquire a Lada, I will make it a bucket list item to drift it in the snowy mountains of Poland. Shoutouts to Stanny ;) edits: drunk typo's
Would love to see mirrors moved on the hood/front quarters
No one else really modifies the car that Nightride does, always something unique with them
I love the look of this car! Well done!
Привет из России ❤ очень давно смотрю Вас 🔥 контент топ 💯
Rad guys.. congratulations on 600k. Just some more time for the mil mark. You guys will take off for sure
Small wheels > everything
Disassemble tail lights and wash them from inside, they’ll look great and all back of the car will be so good looking (from my experience of detailing my Lada).
Love u guys sooooo much you are one big reason i love wroking on cars. KEEP it UP!!! mutch love!
Thanks for the video glhf
Ngl I don't think you guys have a car that I don't love the look of. The lada is honestly really a vibe too.
Love Ladas. They have a bit of a mixed reputation in North America, but honestly whats not to love about a cheap, light, small, dead simple, easily repairable car that can run on basically any fuel with minor modifications. Also, I love the look, classic 70s style, really reminds me of older Toyotas and Nissans.
Id love a Lada Niva or the legend version. It'd be perfect for Canadian winters
Big hello from me and my friends over here in new Zealand we all love watching your guys content
Also after watching this I really want to find a lada over here in nz if possible and get my friend to sacrifice his mx5 and body swap it with a lada and call it the ladiata
beautiful job guys, love your work!
If you need to get camber at the back of the car you can get a kit from e30 that installs bolt on on lada people in russia remake it for this purpose, or you can just bay an e30 rear axle and redo it yourselves. for the front you need to buydrift levers from club turbo that will give a whole bunch of different settings to choose from. To lower it you either can buy coil overs from ajs ( a shop in russia) or you need to buy “ss” shock absorber and some NIVA springs connect to spring for one place( to make the suspension tougher) and cut off 2+ coils off spring
Watched from Nigeria 🇳🇬 🙌🏾
Странно что тут так мало комментов на Русском... Классно делаете, удачи!
Спробуй вгадати, чому так))
@@AHOHuM1 Потому что видео заточено под англ.аудиторию
Й це добре, що русні тут мало.
@@Grahame898 и це iдi наxyi добро
@@Fuprikl только название на русском, хрень какая то
No bad👍 very interesting continues history car.
P.s my English is bad, I am from russia 😅
Exactly what I envisioned seriously first go at it from last vid. Just need that roll/fender pull . Also lowering a solid axle chassis well make the rear of the body push to one side . Need to make a adjustable panhard bar to center the axle . Engine swap a year from now 🤔. I could see a ported 2 rotor 12a style in it , dual carb , dizzy . Simple and almost period correct . Keep the progress going loving builds seriously 👊🏼🍻🖤
The best car...love the Lada👍😎
thank god we have nightride for bad days :)
Marek, love seeing 06 Lada content. Original and quirky!
Hello back from a People Out of the Internet
Love your Content. Straight. Regards from Germany.
in 2012 in Kazakhstan, I studied at a driving school on the same car from 1976. Because of this, I can now drive any car in the world!🤣🤣🤣
As I say, there is a big difference between collecting and driving cars 😂 two different passions ❤️
Found your channel last week and now I've watched most of your videos from the past year. Amazing stuff you get hooked right away! Keep doing what you're doing! Love from Sweden
You don`t need coilovers to this car. Ther is too much options for lada suspention. Start from niva springs. They realy hard. And there is many and many options! Good luck guys! Hello from Russia!
Для Польши и западной Европы может это и интересный проект, но для Украины, расии и тд уже заезженный до дыр контент! этих жигулей уже тысячи проектов было.
Но вы все равно красавцы, смотрю с 20к подпищиков!😘
there's no coilovers for ladas, we install stiffer springs (usually from nivas) and shocks, or you can weld together two stock springs, as i did, leaving stock shocks. yeah, car's gonna have a very wobbly ride, but it's as stiff as you can get.
and btw, on stock front lower arms bolts, max camber is 1.5-2,5°, depending on how low your car is. if you want more camber, you gotta install longer bolts
and last: if you put 7-7.5J wheels on the back, especially via spacers, the only option to substantionaly lower a car is to cut the arches. but the vast majority of stance guys here in Russia dont do that, they just accept their fate, that fornt is gonna be lower anyway. front arches can be rolled more than back ones, and it might be a way to go with such wheels.
ps. and throw away those horrible mud flaps, i beg you. thore are considered cringe in Russia)
Норм брызговики
i love how you consider cop road blocks mentality towards the car as you design.
Lada 2106 the finest piece of technology Russia ever built!
Kinda looks like a kids drawing of a Datsun 1600
Very nice👌🏼
This is what the stuff of dreams is starting to look like
Everyone else gave good advice so I'll just let you guys know I love it and keep up the great work!
That looks fun! Good luck! Cheers from Aktau, Kazakh
I wonder if maybe fiat 125 suspention would fit the lada.
Marek buying lada inspires me to buy 2107 model. My problem is that I dont have a lot of money and I like old cars and Id like to have "project car". I was thinking of buying a civic, but most of the offers in Poland are such rust buckets that its not even worth looking for. Another plus for a lada is that I love this simple design.
Reminds me so much of a smaller volvo 240 and somehow more simple!
Absolutely love it boys
for suspention use:
in front - vw t4 shocks, cutted lada niva springs
rear - lada niva rear shocks, cutted volha springs
I've always got smile-face when I see you
The extra spacing on the other side could be because solid axle rear end. When you lower solid rear end usually it pushes to one side.
pleasure for eyes. good luck from Russia
How cool and right in beginning dude says "Zhiguli")
Nightride definitely has the best content in the game y'all inspire me every day!
Please make a compilation of you guys trying to pull off steering wheels😂😂
Hello I'm from Argentina, I love videos like thisss. I always see them
I think its the same chassis that fiat made for the seat 124 and people rally those maybe you should look into that. Here in spain, or in italy for the fiat 124, you might be able to find coils and other interesting stuff. ;)
There are tazfab coilovers, but not sure if it's worth it. Some people recommend to use UAZ springs, they are stiffer than stock. Also you need to make rear мост holding bar shorter or make threads in it for different settings, because that's why one wheel sticks out more
From what model of uaz
@@bogdandruta8610 UAZ patriot, as I remember
Sooo sick! Much Love Nightride!! 🇨🇭❤️
i love watching you guys work on cars it isnpires me and day by day it makes me more exiting to turnm 18 and get a car and drivings licensce
'lift the car 🤮' lol! The Zhiguli looks sick.
I love the lada so much the fact that you guys are now just building a car cos you like it is so cool and i want to see more stuff like this 😃👍
It was a cool lada built in Norway,, he had take a Niva ?? and put a Ford Cosworth engine in it,that was a really sleeper,,Ill just notice your channel, and abb after first video,Thanks for cool stuff, ✌👍🚗🏍🏎🏅🏅🏁🏁🏁🏁
The Russians came up with a crazy way, there are custom coilovers, they are called Shishkin's workshop, we also put an adjustable stick (panara) in the back to align the bridge when we cut the springs, put the brakes from the front-wheel drive Lada and that's it, the Zhiguli tuning is ready😎😎😎
4:15 in a Lada it's still relatively useful, I've seen tow bars on BMW i3s. Great video as always
日本人です。LADAはクラシックで乗ってみたいです。夏があついので、オーバーヒートがしんぱいです。
LADAS ARE OG CARS. TIME TO DO A IRS. FOR ALL THE CAMBER!!!!
Yes, safety is priority..2bolts with 1 Allen key is really much safer compared to only 2 bolts😂😂😂
We gonna cut "Игрик" pipe. Сильно!
Молодцы ребята! Лучшие!
It looks f`kin awesome.👍👍👍
Man, this is so nice, although I never liked Ladas this one looks mad already! Thanks for removing the ugly tint and wheels, it's getting there. Maybe would be nice to keep the rear a bit higher than front - looks kinda cool on this car. Keep it up guys, love the great content!
I love the Lada, it's amazing ❤️
Best felling when NIGHTRIDE upload video 😮💨
Looks good so far. 👍👍 Cool look.
Are you aiming for ビップ車 look? Perhaps change the camber so the wheels fit under the arches better. Also get fender mounted mirrors. (If it's legal where you live) some people put crystals on the logs to outline it and look shiny. There's also a product (I don't know what it's called) that people apply to the tires to make them super black. Some people run stretched tires but that's not good for daily driving at all.
I hope it turns out great!.
Hey!
from experience, for a radical understatement of drift and collapse
a rear beam from a bmw e30 is placed, in front the levers are either customized independently for collapse or bought ready-made (for drift or stens) if the understatement is not as radical and the wheels are not as wide as yours, then basically the springs are from fret niva round, shocks are put through spacers to the suspension travel remained and the bumpers on the bridge and above the springs are cut off and removed.
The Lada is cool.. 🤙
Beautiful car for every gopnik in the chood. Literally, 30 gopniks in one Lada
Ахах, а я думал что кроме нас наша классика никому не сдалась) Патриотизм +100
Shorten the rear axle and fabricate a 4 or 3 link set up with some round tubing. That will help lots. It will call out for a butt load of custom fabrication, but you'll be leading the way on that regard.
Hey guys! I'm from Latvia and the lada looks fire. Very nice content
Zsiguli ❤ cheers from Hungary
Badass Lada 🚨
Do you know any good websites that I can find cool steering wheels ?
love the videos guys keep it up, the lada looks wonderful
Nice men, good style, good luck 🤞
Bruv if u need some tuning parts, look after on Hungarian sites, we tune Ladas since the dawn of man :D We usually take for the rear spring some BigPolski springs and then cut its already lowers with 2cm, and for the front some Niva springs, with the niva u can cut plenty.
Wow, another night ride video, coincidentally, another like
Stock and good fitment is nice