So I had the Specialità (which is a Libra without weight) and I can say, that the grind quality of the Fio is much better. No clumps and very uniform grounds every shot with great accuracy. Compared to the Eureka XL it delivers some more fines but is on par in quality. It is not the fastest grinder but the grind by weight improves the workflow so much that seconds don’t matter compared to the versatility that this grinder brings.
@@14-BODHI I wound up buying the allground sense. Does well with light roasts. Super easy to clean the thing which is nice because you can keep a consistent grind. Dialing in was super easy. I wish the steps in the grind adjustment ring were a little smaller but I adjust the weight a little bit here and there. No problems, very nice grinder.
Hi great video as always! I was wondering if you had any thoughts when comparing this grinder to yhe Eurka Atom W 65? I have a small mobile espresso cart. And we switch portafilters depending on the size of the drink. Do the forks accommodate different sizes? Thank you!
Great video. Something minor, but I am trying to understand more about is the switching from espresso/moka/filter. I noticed you switched from espresso to moka at 7:20 - I was under the impression that you need to run the grinder when adjusting grind size. Is this not the case? This seems much more convenient for changing to different styles. Thanks!
Thanks for the great video. I've just bought this grinder and very happy with it's performance. Do you know what the solid white dots on the grind adjustment collar indicate? Also my cheap scales seem to always show a gap of around 0.7g from the selected grind weight. What scales are those you use in the video. Many thanks
We use the acaia scales, maybe your cheap ones are out? The 3 dots? In the espresso they split that section into 3 parts, and there is a big bean and a small bean to help you know which way to move to be finer or coarse
I am unable to grind coffee for moka pot using the moka basket. When I put the basket on the fork (scale of Allground Sense) it blinks - as it would tare, but when I press the button to grind, it shows me the icon, to put moka basket - machine is not grinding. When I add additional weight it grinds. My moka basket weights 25,4 g and it is not being recognized. Can you check if you have similar issue? Maybe there is minimum weight for the grinder to start grinding that I am not aware of? Additionally, I received my Allground Sense without dosing cup, that normally was included with Allground classic. Did you get the plastic dosing cup with your Allground Sense?
Does this grinder require some minimum amount of beans to sit in the hopper an press down the burr chamber for the grinder to grind properly? Would it grind well if there were only about 40g of beans (about two doses) in the hopper at a time? Thanks!
Can you put up a comparison video. With fellow opus vs all ground fiorenzato please and do suggest one for all brew methods from espresso to French press
I appreciate your honesty om showing filter coffee grounds weight parity. But it's a deal breaker for me. I prefer close to zero retention. Bit disappointing because I was so ready to order this grinder. I wouldn't mind a bellow attachment. But I don't see that option here.
@@MrDonEladio All the espresso machines (Marzocco) used in Artisti's coffee shop. It is their standard and they are very proud of it. Just wanted a grind time to compare with their Anfim grinder times. Regards.
We will test and let you know. 22.5g is our commercial recipe for lm, home most use 19.5g in the double basket. It will assess and let you know. As it’s a home grinder quality over time is a better outcome, if you in a hurry in the morning, perhaps get up 5min early to make a better cup of coffee to start your day. Cheers luke
@@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters Many thanks for that. I find the comparisons useful. That was a useful video you made. Appreciated seeing that kind of detail. 'Time to Grind' for doses the icing on the cake. That's about 1.7g/s (to calc time for other dose sizes).
A real application in our house is a setting for half caff coffee and full fat coffee.... Does the menu cater for that? Often, the weight or grind size (or both) needs tweaking for either. This is for espresso i should add.
@@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters Essentially two different coffees. The wife drinks decaffeinated (actually half caff) and I drink regular coffee. So, our application certainly lends itself to a single dose low retention grinder. And another question if I may? How long would the coffee stay "fresh" for in the hopper?
Any review on this grinder talks about how this is not targeting single dose usage, if it's not already obvious. And what is "full fat" coffee? If you switch to decaf you want a single dose grinder. And "how long will they stay fresh? In the hopper?". I suggest if you are asking these questions you probably should save your money and not be looking at a $1000+ grinder. :-)
Typically a dosing pot was used to grind into so you can use a external scale, grinder companies still see grinding into the portafilter as the main way grinders are being used
@@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters but the grinder has settings for Mocha and Filter??? Fair enough if it's only configured for espresso. If you take a classic Bialetti, its filter holder is made out of ultra light aluminium, nowhere near the min weight of 60g. I wonder what they envisaged people would do if they actually wanted to use the grinder for the tri-purpose it was designed for?
I’ve got the normal allgrounds, the steps are quite big (few seconds) in terms of shot to shot variation. It’s easier to get it close enough and then adjust the dose up or down to really dial in. Hope this helps
@@the-Brown This is very helpful, thank you! Bummer to hear about the big variation, ticks all the boxes aside from that. Something about my OCD requires I stick to 18g for better or worse lol
@@user-bdpdfom You could potentially change the burrs to SSP and get a much smaller adjustment as the red speed burrs in the allgorund are essentially all purpose (filter to espresso)
So I had the Specialità (which is a Libra without weight) and I can say, that the grind quality of the Fio is much better. No clumps and very uniform grounds every shot with great accuracy. Compared to the Eureka XL it delivers some more fines but is on par in quality. It is not the fastest grinder but the grind by weight improves the workflow so much that seconds don’t matter compared to the versatility that this grinder brings.
I just received mines today. This is like one of the best grinder for all grind for a new beginner.❤❤❤
Thanks for sharing.
I’ve been using Fiorenzato commercially. Never disappoints!
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How many kgs you grind a day?
Is there any chance you can tell us what dosing cup you're using in the video when grinding for Filter coffee?
Can you please do a light roast test and see how it handles fine grinding? Thanks!
Nobody tried ?
@@14-BODHI I wound up buying the allground sense. Does well with light roasts. Super easy to clean the thing which is nice because you can keep a consistent grind. Dialing in was super easy. I wish the steps in the grind adjustment ring were a little smaller but I adjust the weight a little bit here and there. No problems, very nice grinder.
Hi great video as always! I was wondering if you had any thoughts when comparing this grinder to yhe Eurka Atom W 65? I have a small mobile espresso cart. And we switch portafilters depending on the size of the drink. Do the forks accommodate different sizes? Thank you!
How does this work with a dosing ring on the portafilter?
Great video. Something minor, but I am trying to understand more about is the switching from espresso/moka/filter. I noticed you switched from espresso to moka at 7:20 - I was under the impression that you need to run the grinder when adjusting grind size. Is this not the case? This seems much more convenient for changing to different styles. Thanks!
When you go from fine to coarse, is fine. When you go coarse to fine then yes you have to run the grinder. As you clamp on the beans Cheers luke
Please Test the Retention
Thanks for the great video. I've just bought this grinder and very happy with it's performance. Do you know what the solid white dots on the grind adjustment collar indicate? Also my cheap scales seem to always show a gap of around 0.7g from the selected grind weight. What scales are those you use in the video. Many thanks
We use the acaia scales, maybe your cheap ones are out? The 3 dots? In the espresso they split that section into 3 parts, and there is a big bean and a small bean to help you know which way to move to be finer or coarse
Thank you for getting back to me - @@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters
Can it do cold brew? I’d like something that replaces my Baratza Virtuoso for filter and cold brew.
I am unable to grind coffee for moka pot using the moka basket. When I put the basket on the fork (scale of Allground Sense) it blinks - as it would tare, but when I press the button to grind, it shows me the icon, to put moka basket - machine is not grinding. When I add additional weight it grinds.
My moka basket weights 25,4 g and it is not being recognized. Can you check if you have similar issue? Maybe there is minimum weight for the grinder to start grinding that I am not aware of?
Additionally, I received my Allground Sense without dosing cup, that normally was included with Allground classic. Did you get the plastic dosing cup with your Allground Sense?
The doing cup is not included anymore. Yes there is the same issue with a medium 8 cup size Bialetti, there must be be a min weight requirement.
Does the scale weigh the whole machine like their commercial grinders? Or is there a scale attached to the fork?
Does this grinder require some minimum amount of beans to sit in the hopper an press down the burr chamber for the grinder to grind properly? Would it grind well if there were only about 40g of beans (about two doses) in the hopper at a time? Thanks!
Can you put up a comparison video. With fellow opus vs all ground fiorenzato please and do suggest one for all brew methods from espresso to French press
Are there any other differences between Sense and AllGround Classic except the scale? Any new features, improvements?
The scale and the software options
Would this suitable for a small coffee shop? Or what would be the alternative? Thanks
Small in 1 kg per day max. It would help with alternating your grind for brews as well if you wanted that option
I appreciate your honesty om showing filter coffee grounds weight parity. But it's a deal breaker for me. I prefer close to zero retention. Bit disappointing because I was so ready to order this grinder. I wouldn't mind a bellow attachment. But I don't see that option here.
Are you prefer this machine for small business?small cafe?
Yes small 2-3 kg per week max
@@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters how if 1kg per day?
Do you know if the Allground probrew - single dose will be weighing the coffee like the sense model?
Yes it has a weight scale in it
How loud is the grinder compared to say an Atom 65?
Can’t choose, white or black?
Good show! I'm impressed. Query: How long does it take that grinder to grind your standard 22.5g ESPRESSO dose?
which machine uses 22,5 standard?
@@MrDonEladio All the espresso machines (Marzocco) used in Artisti's coffee shop. It is their standard and they are very proud of it. Just wanted a grind time to compare with their Anfim grinder times. Regards.
We will test and let you know. 22.5g is our commercial recipe for lm, home most use 19.5g in the double basket. It will assess and let you know. As it’s a home grinder quality over time is a better outcome, if you in a hurry in the morning, perhaps get up 5min early to make a better cup of coffee to start your day. Cheers luke
I just tested it, 13 sec for 22.5g 👊🏻
@@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters Many thanks for that. I find the comparisons useful. That was a useful video you made. Appreciated seeing that kind of detail. 'Time to Grind' for doses the icing on the cake. That's about 1.7g/s (to calc time for other dose sizes).
A real application in our house is a setting for half caff coffee and full fat coffee.... Does the menu cater for that?
Often, the weight or grind size (or both) needs tweaking for either.
This is for espresso i should add.
Sorry what do you mean by half caf and full fat caf??
@@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters
Essentially two different coffees.
The wife drinks decaffeinated (actually half caff) and I drink regular coffee. So, our application certainly lends itself to a single dose low retention grinder.
And another question if I may?
How long would the coffee stay "fresh" for in the hopper?
Any review on this grinder talks about how this is not targeting single dose usage, if it's not already obvious. And what is "full fat" coffee? If you switch to decaf you want a single dose grinder. And "how long will they stay fresh? In the hopper?". I suggest if you are asking these questions you probably should save your money and not be looking at a $1000+ grinder. :-)
Ok❤
It's criminal that on their top shelf GBW grinder they dont include a dosing cup. Super lame for a AUD1650+ pricetag...
Typically a dosing pot was used to grind into so you can use a external scale, grinder companies still see grinding into the portafilter as the main way grinders are being used
@@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters but the grinder has settings for Mocha and Filter??? Fair enough if it's only configured for espresso. If you take a classic Bialetti, its filter holder is made out of ultra light aluminium, nowhere near the min weight of 60g. I wonder what they envisaged people would do if they actually wanted to use the grinder for the tri-purpose it was designed for?
FYI I received one of these yesterday and it came with a dosing pot so they've definitely listened to the feedback.
Anyone know how big each “click” is? Would love to know how this compares flavor wise to the Atom 75 for medium roast espresso
I’ve got the normal allgrounds, the steps are quite big (few seconds) in terms of shot to shot variation. It’s easier to get it close enough and then adjust the dose up or down to really dial in. Hope this helps
@@the-Brown This is very helpful, thank you! Bummer to hear about the big variation, ticks all the boxes aside from that. Something about my OCD requires I stick to 18g for better or worse lol
@@user-bdpdfom You could potentially change the burrs to SSP and get a much smaller adjustment as the red speed burrs in the allgorund are essentially all purpose (filter to espresso)
omg! can't myself believe people will get this! so slow and clumped.
I can get the libra, or just single dose from Eureka way much better!!
Didnt he use the finest Grind for this Demo?
The whole ideas of a weight based grinder is so you don’t have to single dose as it gives you the exact amount of grind. 🤙🏻
@@MrDonEladio my libra on finest setting performance better
@@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters yes, and libra is better and cheaper.
Did you test both? Libra sprays the grounds all over the place, dialing it in is fiddly like the Specialtà and mostly not repeatable. @@gordon2875
Black
Very sleek in black 🤙🏻
@@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters nice, I'm thinking of possibly getting another grinder for my pour over, filter and Aeropress