Good to see that they keep developing this. If nobody invents or develops, our world never goes anywhere. Who cares at this point whether it can take full load, or dirt, it is IN DEVELOPMENT, not finalized.
Thank you, yeah, it is amazing how the internet turns people into cranky deniers when new ideas are presented. Or in some cases the opposite, people go into frenzied fanboy mode. Either way, usually logic seems to fly out the window and opinions start getting treated as facts. Sigh.
I think everybody that wants to move forward and want this come true and fit it to their bikes! It's pretty disappointing that this ancient derailleur technology invented on 1905 and we still using it. It's for laugh! My reference are most motos n cars and for comparison Bike world seems like you buy ancient technology of diamonds.
idk why people are complaining about this. If it doesn't work then it won't be purchased, if it works better than traditional cassette and chain then everybody wins with this technological leap. These haters are the reason technology will halt forever haha.
@@DilbertMuc Any student in high school proposing this would get an F in physics. Moments, torque and Young modulus is a high school level of physics. This design is ignoring all physical properties of the material. Everyone with a shred of common sense, even without knowing physics, would see that the 2 tooth engaged with any meaningful torque would snap or wheel deflect from its axis sideways. Not to mention you are loosing massive amount of power by splitting the vector into forces parallel and perpendicular to the direction of moving crank-set.
@@japhyryder604 Regular drivetrain is already 98% efficient. You have shafts on motorcycles, which are heavy, enclosed in oil bath and they are on cruiser motorbikes that are meant to be maintenance free. Everybody knows that shaft drives on motorbikes are loosing 1/3 of the power due to perpendicular forces engagement. They burn more fuel than regular motorbikes. There were bicycles with a shaft in the past, but exactly for that reason nobody is producing them anymore. This design is inherently wrong and they know it will never work. It's just a marketing scheme to refresh the image of a company, which never invented anything, just sell overpriced jockey wheels and bearings that offer virtually no advantage over a good quality steel bearings. Steer away from those scammers.
All the pedal torque is placed on 1-2 teeth on the front and rear "sprockets". On a standard chain driven bike, the torque is spread over 12-34 or many more teeth. So many short comings with this design. Bearing side loading for and aft. " Sprocket" wear/ failure. Shifter binding under load. Carbon driveshaft torque leading to fracturing/ failure. High end user maint.
So awesome that we get to witness history in the making. It's easy to look back on innovation and think that an invention was an idea one day and reality the next. The reality is much less spectacular and, to a small mind, far more boring. Keep up the awesome designs. I cant wait to see what this idea leads to.
The trick is to reverse the gearing and put them at the pedal end then stiffening has a smaller weight gain. The rear wheel can then be a static bevel gear and made strong enough to actually ride. A hollow form pedal former would provide stiffness with minimal weight and remain aerodynamic... This swapped around design could actually work!
Seems to me that since the company makes ceramic bearings then all problems look like they need a bearing solution. Even IF the shifting finally works smoothly and even IF they can totally seal the delicate bearings from dirt (which they can't) then the remaining problem is pure physics: at any given moment exactly 1 tiny bearing transmits full torque power to 1 tiny tooth of the disc. If the disc has to live longer than 1 race then it has to be done in hardened steel (heavy). Aluminum teeth would probably not survive 1 race. The metal casing of 1 bearings has just 1 tiny contact to the tooth at any time and has to transfer all torque, which drastically reduces its life time. A conventional chain and a cassette have always 5 to 15 steel teeth in contact with the chain to tranfer 400-1000 Watts of rider's power.
You hit the nail in the head. It's not really supposed to work. Its a gimmick designed to promote Ceramicspeed company as a whole. A clever marketing move to justify the pricetag on their useless bearings that save you at most 5Watts. The whole predication of using ceramic bearings in bikes is fcn snakeoil. There is nothing wrong with good steel bearings. Ceramic bearings, if on steel races will wear out the race and make the friction even worse! The friction in bearings is not from balls anyways, but from type of grease, type of cage (plastic cages holding bearings inside the cartrige are the worst) and especially seals! There is no value in i.e. oversized pully wheel they sell that save you about 2 watts when you can spend those 400 bucks on aerohelmet and overshoes and save 100 Watts.
Oh my.....so much negativity in your replies. This design definitely has potential but it does take time, money and a lot of work to make it a reality. You naysayers are probably the same people who resisted indexed shifting on road bikes. "Oh, we've had downtube friction shifters on our road bikes for years why should we ever change??" Shame on all of you for not encouraging and embracing change and improvements to an archaic chain and derailleur system.
That looks really cool, and it's thinking out of the box, but how is that better than a normal cassette and chain? It looks like it would be heavy, and how would it shift under the load of mountain biking? Mud and dirt looks like it would clog it. What about in suspension and when the rear wheel moves through the travel? Who would work on that? I like they are trying to come up with something new, but I feel that this idea is just being developed because it's different, not better.
While this looks really cool (and I wish I could get one) I can't see how this can be stiff enough to prevent the "cassette" flexing inwards, causing a slip. Anybody knows what torque this is supposed to handle?? I read 300 watts somewhere, but probably at 80-90 rpm cadence...
My words. The system fails in all mechanical theories. It will work, but only as a showroom gimmick. There is a reason that a solid chain can transfer 1000 Watt along the cassette circumference and not perpendicular to it, which ceramicspeed does. Either the ceramicspeed disc is solid, hardened steel (heavy!!!) or leightweight, flexing aluminum with short life span. I guess, they will sell it as a special solution for pro riders for 1 race, since it gives 3% less wind resistance (a.k.a. small water bottle in the cage).
*This thing just seems like vaporware, along with the vid from a year ago. Let's see some practical, real-world demos, under real loads, etc. It looks nowhere near as strong as a chain drive, and full of conceptual flaws.*
@@charduff Yep, agreed. And they also need to come to fruition if they want to be legitimate products. As an engineer myself, any product that takes this long to make and refine isn't gonna make it. Companies have limited budgets, and this is a mechanical product, so the issues should be relatively easy to solve, if they are solvable. I just see them trying to sell an idea here, and ideas are shit. It's the implementation that causes the rubber to meet the road.
If it worked, they would have demo bikes and be offering test rides. This doesn't work. If you apply any torque it will fail. There is too much power transmitted into very little surface area. No pedals indicates no one should really ride it.
andybaldman Your qualifications bear no credence and it’s presumptuous of you to define how long is too long in R&D for a project to be successful (whatever success may look like to this team) it may not be commercial success of this product but could be an stepping stone to another innovation. You have a can not do attitude. That’s what makes projects fail.
Yawn, another demonstration of a prototype on a stand being gently fingerspun. Show me a tour level rider cranking up a steep climb, I want to believe.
These are concept bikes showing a project in development. Apparently y'all would literally prefer to be shown nothing until the finished product is on sale. And then you'll still be moaning, especially about the price, because shocker: R&D costs money. And you'll still be claiming it doesn't work or has tons of issues, even though you've never tried riding one yourself. It's always the same with new technology in the bike scene, you're such a conservative bunch.
@@theMosen I'm not conservative, I'm a wild and crazy guy, but enough with the nonworking models, put a rider on one, even a gentle glide across the exhibition floor already.
@@theMosen no, I'm not yelling, I'm saying that the time for models is finite, there comes a time to show the mechanism in action, however dialed back that action may need to be.
Not buying it, this system will be skipping and self destructing like crazy especially with a strong rider applying heavy torque, there is a reason bikes use a chain drive and it is called foolproof, sturdy and proven over a hundred + years. Your idea is full of holes and is a product that is sure to be a let down especially after someone spends hundreds if not thousands of dollars only to find out it is JUNK!.
I doubt this would hold up to a average rider let alone a strong one. There is too much power transmitted over a small surface area. It's definitely going to flex, skip and break.
I'll stick with a proven and bullet proof 14 speed, internal hub Rohloff. This design will not take much torque without breaking. It is obvious, even a small piece of F.O.D. (foreign object debris) is going to cause a lot of damage. You'll also note, there's never a pedals on the cranks and only spun by hand.
How about - put a drive gear and drive shaft on both sides. Put the rear wheel gear teeth on both sides as well, joined by strong splines or a solid disc, or whatever design you can achieve in terms of strength vs weight. Basically mirror the whole system to both sides, then the drive gear from each side will be pressing inwards on the rear wheel "cassette" from both sides simultaneously, so as long as the drive shafts are very stiff, and the wheel gear disc is solid, then the torque will be pressing inwards on both sides simultaneously. Then the drive gear can't push the wheel gear sideways and pop out of the groove. That combined with the dirt/dust cover, maybe it could actually work and be strong enough. But you guys need to stop treating your design like a delicate little flower and man up the machine. I want to see a sprinter standing on this thing spiking 1500 watts into it. Like jet aircraft and race cars, you gotta put a crazy test pilot on your machine and let him beat it and break it in order to find all the weak points and master the design.
one bearing on the shaft fails and you are done. I think it won't last under high loads. Miniature bearings and miniscule balls won't hold well on high cranking torques.
in my opinion it cannot work, in the first climb with a sprint everything breaks. there are few points of transmission of forces. there are few contact points between the pinions and the bearings. I hope it is not used in aluminum for the pinion and the chainring. however nice project
This is not a new idea. Frederic bassen came up with the almost identical idea except for it was all stainless. He used a sold gear with 35 degree pitched teeth. The fancy cnc rear gear is actually a weaker design. Good Lord I smell copyright infringement!
@@salvandorum Doesn't that depend on what load the bearings can take? If they can take the load, and I assume they can, otherwise why would these people have even pursued this thing in the first place, then there shouldn't be anything preventing this from working.
Imagine it with pedals at the exhibition... some adventurious noob would immediately sit on the bike and start spinning wildly... clonk, ding, crack... and broken pieces would fly around. :D))))
Lol, why there is small wheels when there is not enough room for this shifter thing to move there (can be seen at 1:30)? And outer rings (small gears) are so big they would flex (if not very heavy) under torque and cause it to slip and destroy itself very quickly. I'm sorry for those people who had wasted their effort in this thing
jeez this thing will fail hard, those gear doesnt look sturdy unless they use normal cast iron gear. there only one gear at a time while chain has multiple contact. this probably will slip when climbing hill.
Mark my words NOTHING is going to keep this drivetrain from slipping under power. NOTHING! I welcome innovation, but this is gimmicky. Ceramic speed, is the Monster Cable of the bike industry.
I want to believe and I like to believe this is a good innovation in bicycle drivetrain system. But so much blah blah blah blah and I haven’t seen the wheels touch the ground. My first thought is why design something to be more complicated. Look the the million of bikes out there, they are chain driven to be affordable to the masses. They are building an elitist bike that eventually will be in a museum if it ever works. I am guessing the bike would cost around 10,000 USD before they recouped the R & D cost. Sorry I usually have no opinions.
Ceramicspeed should really know when it's time to quit. All the money, time, effort, sleepless nights, nay sayers, haters, critics, etc. There are too many flaws in this product, and it is not making any significant gains over existing technology which is among the most efficient mechanisms ever invented. I am embarrassed for them and feel bad they continue to invest in this "product".
we have 4 versions, one of which is actually ridable and you are all probly interested to hear about... Here is a demonstration of the other 3 that no one cares about and we are not going to show you the one that we can actually ride hahahahaha what a joke.
Good to see that they keep developing this. If nobody invents or develops, our world never goes anywhere. Who cares at this point whether it can take full load, or dirt, it is IN DEVELOPMENT, not finalized.
Thanks. Such a breath of fresh air to read a realistic assessment of the situation amongst all the naysayers.
Thank you, yeah, it is amazing how the internet turns people into cranky deniers when new ideas are presented. Or in some cases the opposite, people go into frenzied fanboy mode. Either way, usually logic seems to fly out the window and opinions start getting treated as facts. Sigh.
@@pev_ I guess it could well be that there is a silent majority whose opinions aren't strong enough to warrant leaving a comment in the first place.
@@pev_ There is nothing new about shaft drives. They are inherently stupid.
I think everybody that wants to move forward and want this come true and fit it to their bikes! It's pretty disappointing that this ancient derailleur technology invented on 1905 and we still using it. It's for laugh! My reference are most motos n cars and for comparison Bike world seems like you buy ancient technology of diamonds.
idk why people are complaining about this. If it doesn't work then it won't be purchased, if it works better than traditional cassette and chain then everybody wins with this technological leap. These haters are the reason technology will halt forever haha.
Haters= COWARDS
@@mr.blackhawk142 Fanboys are cowards. They are scared to death that their ignorance and how gullible they are will be challenged by facts.
Any student in a mechanical engineering exam proposing the Ceramicspeed solution would be laughed out of the class room, with a F(ail) exam. :D)))))
@@DilbertMuc Any student in high school proposing this would get an F in physics. Moments, torque and Young modulus is a high school level of physics. This design is ignoring all physical properties of the material. Everyone with a shred of common sense, even without knowing physics, would see that the 2 tooth engaged with any meaningful torque would snap or wheel deflect from its axis sideways. Not to mention you are loosing massive amount of power by splitting the vector into forces parallel and perpendicular to the direction of moving crank-set.
amen.
It's really inspiring to see the development from last year. Keep up the amazing work. You guys are on to something big!
Yes. They are on some big money scammed from their gullible customers that have no clue about physics.
@@sodalitia yup. When he claimed 99% efficiency, I knew it was bullshit.
@@japhyryder604 Regular drivetrain is already 98% efficient. You have shafts on motorcycles, which are heavy, enclosed in oil bath and they are on cruiser motorbikes that are meant to be maintenance free. Everybody knows that shaft drives on motorbikes are loosing 1/3 of the power due to perpendicular forces engagement. They burn more fuel than regular motorbikes. There were bicycles with a shaft in the past, but exactly for that reason nobody is producing them anymore. This design is inherently wrong and they know it will never work. It's just a marketing scheme to refresh the image of a company, which never invented anything, just sell overpriced jockey wheels and bearings that offer virtually no advantage over a good quality steel bearings. Steer away from those scammers.
@@sodalitia 98%? You clearly have no idea.
@@sodalitia if a regular chain is 98% efficient, a mountain bike and road bike would have no difference in speed if using the same gearing.
These inventions are make SENSE!!
Very SIMPLE and CLEAN e
All the pedal torque is placed on 1-2 teeth on the front and rear "sprockets". On a standard chain driven bike, the torque is spread over 12-34 or many more teeth. So many short comings with this design. Bearing side loading for and aft. " Sprocket" wear/ failure. Shifter binding under load. Carbon driveshaft torque leading to fracturing/ failure. High end user maint.
Its starting to repeat
Interesting idea , keep developing , all the best :)
Looks better than a chain. May be the future drivetrain on bikes.
So awesome that we get to witness history in the making. It's easy to look back on innovation and think that an invention was an idea one day and reality the next. The reality is much less spectacular and, to a small mind, far more boring. Keep up the awesome designs. I cant wait to see what this idea leads to.
The trick is to reverse the gearing and put them at the pedal end then stiffening has a smaller weight gain. The rear wheel can then be a static bevel gear and made strong enough to actually ride. A hollow form pedal former would provide stiffness with minimal weight and remain aerodynamic... This swapped around design could actually work!
We LL see
Seems to me that since the company makes ceramic bearings then all problems look like they need a bearing solution.
Even IF the shifting finally works smoothly and even IF they can totally seal the delicate bearings from dirt (which they can't) then the remaining problem is pure physics: at any given moment exactly 1 tiny bearing transmits full torque power to 1 tiny tooth of the disc. If the disc has to live longer than 1 race then it has to be done in hardened steel (heavy). Aluminum teeth would probably not survive 1 race. The metal casing of 1 bearings has just 1 tiny contact to the tooth at any time and has to transfer all torque, which drastically reduces its life time.
A conventional chain and a cassette have always 5 to 15 steel teeth in contact with the chain to tranfer 400-1000 Watts of rider's power.
not to mention deflection of the disc under the tremendous 'climb out' loads.
You hit the nail in the head. It's not really supposed to work. Its a gimmick designed to promote Ceramicspeed company as a whole. A clever marketing move to justify the pricetag on their useless bearings that save you at most 5Watts. The whole predication of using ceramic bearings in bikes is fcn snakeoil. There is nothing wrong with good steel bearings. Ceramic bearings, if on steel races will wear out the race and make the friction even worse! The friction in bearings is not from balls anyways, but from type of grease, type of cage (plastic cages holding bearings inside the cartrige are the worst) and especially seals! There is no value in i.e. oversized pully wheel they sell that save you about 2 watts when you can spend those 400 bucks on aerohelmet and overshoes and save 100 Watts.
Oh my.....so much negativity in your replies. This design definitely has potential but it does take time, money and a lot of work to make it a reality. You naysayers are probably the same people who resisted indexed shifting on road bikes. "Oh, we've had downtube friction shifters on our road bikes for years why should we ever change??" Shame on all of you for not encouraging and embracing change and improvements to an archaic chain and derailleur system.
The same IDIOTS actually thiMk we live on a spinning globe too, and people in Australia are UPSIDE DOWN! cheezburger.com/4451345920/this-kitty-is-sad
That looks really cool, and it's thinking out of the box, but how is that better than a normal cassette and chain? It looks like it would be heavy, and how would it shift under the load of mountain biking? Mud and dirt looks like it would clog it. What about in suspension and when the rear wheel moves through the travel? Who would work on that?
I like they are trying to come up with something new, but I feel that this idea is just being developed because it's different, not better.
you should make it cable shift not electronic
Agreed! Cable equipped shifters are easier.to maintain and get replacement for.
🤔 could an assistance electric motor be incorporated into the drive shaft 🤷🏻♂️
Excellent work. You guys may tie up with Hero cycle or Avon cycle and bring this briliant technology to India.
How is it possible to get better efficiency from the drive when it changes direction so many times?
Imagine, as in the case of a misstep or an accident, the unprotected leg of it is being sanded..ouch^^
the protection makes really sense here :-D
Very interesting! Keep up the good work.
Can't wait for the real thing in shops
While this looks really cool (and I wish I could get one) I can't see how this can be stiff enough to prevent the "cassette" flexing inwards, causing a slip. Anybody knows what torque this is supposed to handle?? I read 300 watts somewhere, but probably at 80-90 rpm cadence...
Plus the lateral force on the wheel when you stand up and play on the bikes structure going uphill..
Spot on.
@@Injudiciously Get some SPOT remover Spanky.
My words. The system fails in all mechanical theories. It will work, but only as a showroom gimmick. There is a reason that a solid chain can transfer 1000 Watt along the cassette circumference and not perpendicular to it, which ceramicspeed does. Either the ceramicspeed disc is solid, hardened steel (heavy!!!) or leightweight, flexing aluminum with short life span. I guess, they will sell it as a special solution for pro riders for 1 race, since it gives 3% less wind resistance (a.k.a. small water bottle in the cage).
I was around when RockShox came out with the RS-1 in 89'. What a joke with the foam bumpers and the 1 inch travel. How are they doing lately anyways?
what about dirt getting in the bearings especially if you were mountain biking
It's a showroom bike solution. There is no dirt! :D))))
*This thing just seems like vaporware, along with the vid from a year ago. Let's see some practical, real-world demos, under real loads, etc. It looks nowhere near as strong as a chain drive, and full of conceptual flaws.*
It's an innovation. It's a dream that a team of engineers are building on. These things take time and patience.
@@charduff Yep, agreed. And they also need to come to fruition if they want to be legitimate products. As an engineer myself, any product that takes this long to make and refine isn't gonna make it. Companies have limited budgets, and this is a mechanical product, so the issues should be relatively easy to solve, if they are solvable. I just see them trying to sell an idea here, and ideas are shit. It's the implementation that causes the rubber to meet the road.
If it worked, they would have demo bikes and be offering test rides. This doesn't work. If you apply any torque it will fail. There is too much power transmitted into very little surface area. No pedals indicates no one should really ride it.
@@andybaldman Your edJEWcation is S.H.I.T.!
andybaldman Your qualifications bear no credence and it’s presumptuous of you to define how long is too long in R&D for a project to be successful (whatever success may look like to this team) it may not be commercial success of this product but could be an stepping stone to another innovation.
You have a can not do attitude. That’s what makes projects fail.
Yawn, another demonstration of a prototype on a stand being gently fingerspun. Show me a tour level rider cranking up a steep climb, I want to believe.
Show me a lycra wearing chubby father reliving his breaking away days of past riding this ridiculous drivetrain. It's not going to happen.
These are concept bikes showing a project in development. Apparently y'all would literally prefer to be shown nothing until the finished product is on sale. And then you'll still be moaning, especially about the price, because shocker: R&D costs money. And you'll still be claiming it doesn't work or has tons of issues, even though you've never tried riding one yourself. It's always the same with new technology in the bike scene, you're such a conservative bunch.
@@theMosen I'm not conservative, I'm a wild and crazy guy, but enough with the nonworking models, put a rider on one, even a gentle glide across the exhibition floor already.
@@damonthomas8955 As I said, you're basically yelling: "Please don't show me the development stages of any new technology, I can't handle it!"
@@theMosen no, I'm not yelling, I'm saying that the time for models is finite, there comes a time to show the mechanism in action, however dialed back that action may need to be.
Why is it that you never show a bike with an actual driver on the road?
maybe it's because ceramic speed hasn't put someone the bike yet because it's not finished smh
@@aaa-qf3qc It SNOT?
Because it will disintegrate.
Just make it 2-sided, and we got a winner of an idea!
Not buying it, this system will be skipping and self destructing like crazy especially with a strong rider applying heavy torque, there is a reason bikes use a chain drive and it is called foolproof, sturdy and proven over a hundred + years. Your idea is full of holes and is a product that is sure to be a let down especially after someone spends hundreds if not thousands of dollars only to find out it is JUNK!.
Calm down
@@blasecorrea8350 seriously. This guy scoffed at the first mechanical can opener. "it's never going to work!", he said.
Spot on!
I doubt this would hold up to a average rider let alone a strong one. There is too much power transmitted over a small surface area. It's definitely going to flex, skip and break.
@@charduff They said it couldn't be done SO I DIN DO IT! L0L
How much for that bike?
This technology is so cool
I stand up and I put all my weight with force on that on a steep hill climb, I don't think it will hold for that.
...MAYBE IT COULD BE USED TO PROPEL A BIKE WITH A RIDER ...TRY IT!
But then we will know it doesn't work!
I'll stick with a proven and bullet proof 14 speed, internal hub Rohloff. This design will not take much torque without breaking. It is obvious, even a small piece of F.O.D. (foreign object debris) is going to cause a lot of damage. You'll also note, there's never a pedals on the cranks and only spun by hand.
Remember that people dissed the Rohloff when it first came out, and look where we are today. Give it 15 years, and it might be good.
How about - put a drive gear and drive shaft on both sides. Put the rear wheel gear teeth on both sides as well, joined by strong splines or a solid disc, or whatever design you can achieve in terms of strength vs weight. Basically mirror the whole system to both sides, then the drive gear from each side will be pressing inwards on the rear wheel "cassette" from both sides simultaneously, so as long as the drive shafts are very stiff, and the wheel gear disc is solid, then the torque will be pressing inwards on both sides simultaneously. Then the drive gear can't push the wheel gear sideways and pop out of the groove. That combined with the dirt/dust cover, maybe it could actually work and be strong enough. But you guys need to stop treating your design like a delicate little flower and man up the machine. I want to see a sprinter standing on this thing spiking 1500 watts into it. Like jet aircraft and race cars, you gotta put a crazy test pilot on your machine and let him beat it and break it in order to find all the weak points and master the design.
It'll never hold up under load! It just won't. Why not develop the hub gear instead?
one bearing on the shaft fails and you are done. I think it won't last under high loads. Miniature bearings and miniscule balls won't hold well on high cranking torques.
The same can be said about wheel hub bearings, you know
Interesting, I wonder how it's getting on?
in my opinion it cannot work, in the first climb with a sprint everything breaks.
there are few points of transmission of forces.
there are few contact points between the pinions and the bearings.
I hope it is not used in aluminum for the pinion and the chainring.
however nice project
Don't be so modest. It's not your opinion. Basic physics tell us it cannot work. Ceramic speed is a snakeoil salesman.
Yeah
Give it to Jatco the CVT people!,just waiting for the Benny Hill soundtrack to kick in.
This is not a new idea. Frederic bassen came up with the almost identical idea except for it was all stainless. He used a sold gear with 35 degree pitched teeth. The fancy cnc rear gear is actually a weaker design. Good Lord I smell copyright infringement!
PLEASE ADD LINK! FFS, google doesn't know who you are talking about, how would us mere mortals find out? FW alert?
sold gear??? Who did he sold it to??? :P
Now that's some proper engineering. Namasté
No it isn't. This system will never be robust enough to handle high torque. It is a failure at the level of basic engineering priciples
@@salvandorum Doesn't that depend on what load the bearings can take? If they can take the load, and I assume they can, otherwise why would these people have even pursued this thing in the first place, then there shouldn't be anything preventing this from working.
Want to see an actual road test if you guys don't mind!
WHO want??? IDIOT!
Spooky how these prototypes are always shown without pedals...
Imagine it with pedals at the exhibition... some adventurious noob would immediately sit on the bike and start spinning wildly... clonk, ding, crack... and broken pieces would fly around. :D))))
DilbertMuc Perhaps that it?
Why? Just why?
Efficiency, potential reliability, and science. That's why.
I want that
How can buy that bike?
I'm from egypt
What are you going to use it for? Ride up and down pyramids? This design is not even good for flat Flanders.
Why design is not good ?
What is disadvantages that ?
Lol, why there is small wheels when there is not enough room for this shifter thing to move there (can be seen at 1:30)? And outer rings (small gears) are so big they would flex (if not very heavy) under torque and cause it to slip and destroy itself very quickly. I'm sorry for those people who had wasted their effort in this thing
Why not make this things in motorcycles too. Very interesting change,
Yeah, like oh I think I just popped a bearing, Make that a dozen...
Guy we are pole apart ,I said in positive way,may be I didn't understand you, but the idea is very interesting,and can be used for lot others way.
They already have shaft driven motorcycles.
@@michelevitarelli Yes, and gears in the gearbox but on the rear wheel.
'this things'?
Waht about mass production ? 2021 ? or sooner
What about a real demonstration. There is a reason there are no demo bikes.
You missed a 0. 20021 when the super computer linked to your brain can shift it.
Say waht??? :P
sepeda motor bisa dong di buat seperti ini tanpa menggunakan rantai
And now it drifts
Awaaaaaaaaaay frooooom mee
There's nothing that a shifts or more could ever do
I bless the chains down in Africa
Gonna take some time to do the things we never had (ooh, ooh)
Shifting which moves the entire shaft is probably a better solution.
I don’t care whether this thing drive fast or not. It would be a head turner using this on the streets.
Kom aan hier komt speed UP met mijn fiets.
jeez this thing will fail hard, those gear doesnt look sturdy unless they use normal cast iron gear. there only one gear at a time while chain has multiple contact. this probably will slip when climbing hill.
When you going to actually make it in thd shops
Not new. Seen this before.
great idea best if u can ride it Ddddddddddddddddddddddddd
Klaar
I am from Slovakia...😂😂
Sasakia
I wait this bycycle in India for buy chinless cylce 🚵ride fastest. Experience.
Safe your rupees for some physics classes.
Looks unreliable...
Mark my words NOTHING is going to keep this drivetrain from slipping under power. NOTHING! I welcome innovation, but this is gimmicky. Ceramic speed, is the Monster Cable of the bike industry.
Pierce . 1901 , nothing new.
Shimano and Campagnolo are laughing.
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I want to believe and I like to believe this is a good innovation in bicycle drivetrain system. But so much blah blah blah blah and I haven’t seen the wheels touch the ground. My first thought is why design something to be more complicated. Look the the million of bikes out there, they are chain driven to be affordable to the masses. They are building an elitist bike that eventually will be in a museum if it ever works. I am guessing the bike would cost around 10,000 USD before they recouped the R & D cost. Sorry I usually have no opinions.
These high end competition bicycles are already readily $15k!
Ceramicspeed should really know when it's time to quit. All the money, time, effort, sleepless nights, nay sayers, haters, critics, etc. There are too many flaws in this product, and it is not making any significant gains over existing technology which is among the most efficient mechanisms ever invented. I am embarrassed for them and feel bad they continue to invest in this "product".
No pedals... Stealing prevention :)
Wrap it up domer
To complicated.
we have 4 versions, one of which is actually ridable and you are all probly interested to hear about... Here is a demonstration of the other 3 that no one cares about and we are not going to show you the one that we can actually ride hahahahaha what a joke.
turned out to be a big bullshit. 1)To fragile under load 2) too expensive for the market.