Very well summarized. I wouldn't even consider it a "criticism"; more a recognition of a universal truth: a weapon optimized for undetected everyday carry [e.g. P365] will not be the same as a weapon optimized for combat [AR or AK].
A lot of swordbro's on the internet tend to have very strong opinions based on anime and fictional accounts and not facts unfortunately. So one often does have to state the obvious to them.
@@Spagettigeist: Formerly ( until about 1980) you often could see men from their mid 40s or older, using a cane without necessarity of a walking aid. From maybe 1500s onwards a cane was a sign of being a grown man, and, when decorated, a sign of status.
Yup. Swordcane isn't a weapon of war, it is a weapon of subterfuge and very good at it, you wouldn't know a well made swordcane is a sword unless you took it away from the person and inspect it closely.
@@brittakriep2938 With or without a hidden sword, canes are pretty neat. It's too bad they have gone out of fashion. I'm currently decorationg one for a Steampunk cosplay. (Though my decorations are going to be a cheep nock-off as I can't afford the real thing XD)
“But of course, humans are always remarkably creative in figuring out how to impede each other’s ability to live.” Pretty much summed up a good chunk of Human history right there.
I would also remark that humans are also remarkably creative in fabricating complex abstract systems to facilitate cohabitation. Creativity can always create rather than destroy, the most tragic thing is how hard building is, compared to breaking.
Notice too how often this sort of innovation is people trying to find ways to defend themselves or fight back, generally in response to when governments try to monopolize power by preventing citizenry from having weapons to fight back with.
I actuely own a orginal cane sword from europe. Even I couldn't tell at first that it wasn't just a cane when I first saw it. It has like a horn handel with a wooden stick. It's a simple twist lock that surprisingly effectif at keeping the blade in and the blade is like a smalle sword blade. It's actuely rather cool.
A relative had one. It had an extremely thin blade, more like a rapier than a sword. I only got to see it when I was a kid and have no idea how old it was. But i was probably six or seven years old when I saw it, so it's been ages.
cane swords are cool, even if the blade is more a novelty, at least the cane would work as a cane but still when you get one that's made right they're super cool, more of a holdout weapon than for fighting wars though which is perfect
@@WarriorCicada A tremendous number of self inflicted gun wounds are from accidental discharges while carrying or attempting to draw. Either the safety gets caught on a loose strap/buckle, the owner unlocks the safety when hiding it, or the owner pulls the trigger as they fumble to extricate it.
I train with my collapsable baton all the time. I look like exactly like someone who would get mugged in the streets, so I train to draw my baton and extend it. I try to get some of Skallagrim technique to deffend and attack
@@danilonakazone386 you will eventually need to find a training partner to spar and practice your technique with otherwise you will have difficulty applying them if you should ever have to, practicing your draw will only ensure you can reliably getting your hand on your weapon without having to think about it.
The annoying thing about those "cheaper" sword canes is not only them being sword-shaped, they're too short to be a convincing walking stick. If the scabbard was at least a foot or two longer, then you can hold it naturally at the holding point of the sword. Even better, if it's long enough, it would make sense having a nice grippy leather wrap at the right handling spot for sword wielding!
@@Skallagrim Of course! You match the sword to the wielder... but the stick it's going to be in can be deceptively longer. Both for more comfortable walking, and to make it hard to see how long the sword will be when drawing.😏
Japanese people were short, they're at average height today is because of modern food. So, all the arguments about katana are short compared to European sword is actually looking at them through western eyeglass. Of course, katana are short today, it is because Japanese gain height.
Another thing that could be done to discreetly stop you from losing your fingies in the thrust, would be to just put an indent at the blade end of the hilt for your index and middle finger to sort of rest in, and furthermore you could even add a thumb recess... it could be disguised to look like a natural part of the shape of the stick if done correctly.
How about a small lanyard on the end of the handle? A lot of walking sticks have lanyards so that you can hang it on your hand when you're doing something so that it doesn't fall on the ground. Having the lanyard around your wrist or palm would help with the thrusting issue albeit with the downside of basically locking your hand to the weapon.
Those movies are so fricking good. Even Takeshi Kitanos, yes, but I am specifically talking about the series of movies with Shintaro Katsu as Zatoichi.
In my region of Germany a Spazierstock or only Stock is a craftsman made cane, while a Stecken is a simple selfmade stick, cutaway from a bush, without a metal tip. Both items had been in 1970s/ 1980s by men in their midfourties or older still sometimes used as a mans item without necessarity of a walking aid. In those days, when every grown man had a cane/ stick, they had been often used as weapons, the metallic or wooden knob handles acted as maceheqd, and pointy antlerpieces used as pick could be dangerous. Sometimes wooden knobs had been filled with lead, or in center or stick was a steel rod. There had been hollow canes with a knife, stilleto blade, smallswordblade , thick steelrods, whips, a piece of wire rope, a piece of spring with a ball, q pistol, or the stick was a barrel, mostly for shotgun cartidges.
I once met a guy who studied the traditional fighting techniques used by the Italian organised crime and the two main weapons they trained were knives and canes with heavy handles.
my grandfather worked in a coal mine. when he stopped working there he got a cane with a pick as a head (häckel). it is npt intended as one, but as a weapon this would be brutal
Interesting concept: Cane Sword that is also a Shillelagh. Since the striking end of the shillelagh would most likely be placed at the base of the sword's hilt, you would also have the benefit of both weapon types wanting the center of mass to generally be in the same area.
As far as I know the lock button was only ever used on military Gunto's (for obvious practical reasons) I assume the reason why this reproduction was made with it was just for extra security so that if you had a loose scabbard made for battojutsu, there'd be less chance of the blade accidentally flying out
Hey skal! 2 things. the button release was used a lot on the metal scabbards for katana leading up to and during ww2. Also your hand wont slide up the handle because your supporting hands pinky is supposed to be halfway off the bottom of the sword, lining up right where a pommel would start. You drill hand positions a ton in batto and Eijitsu, cheers.
@@Skallagrim I'd figure that the clenching of the ring and little finger around air instead of the handle would lead to a narrowing passage effect where it becomes more difficult for the handle to slide through your grip on a thrust, due to it having to now face the resistance of the grip strength of your ring and little fingers + having a narrower passage to attempt to force itself through. Notes: Tested this with a wooden staff, my apartment wall(concrete), and soaped hands. The testing method was to brace the staff so it wouldn't slip, grip the end with my ring and little finger off of the end, and try to walk myself into the wall. Result: Surprisingly, my hand did not slip at all, and I ended up failing to slip, to the point that I was just leaning into the staff and trying to walk forward as hard as I could with no slippage. I'd suspect that the grip that was described in this comment might be worth testing for thrusting with swords similar to the shikomizue in this video, preferably with some sort of serious hand protection. Disclaimer: I only weigh 55kg on an average humid day. I recommend taking proper protective measures for any sort of testing with live blades instead of stick vs concrete wall.
@@Skallagrim just saw this i’m not onehundred on how it works so well but it does. It is one of the reasons cutting off your ring finger is such an important gesture in the yakuza.
I've always liked the idea of a sword-cane, like you said, even if they are a worse sword overall. They are really cool, glad to see you talk about and review one!
In it's context of use it is excellent tool. It should work as walking stick and having a sword (or just knife) in it makes it have nasty surprise. Alex of Clockwork Orange has knife instead of sword hidden in handle of his stick.
Joerg Sparve lately made a double extendable tanto, which gives an idea... A walking stick that converts to a tanto and some kind of short nagamaki thing. That would be quiet a combo!
A meiju period cane sword could easily be made using a normal tanto or possibly even an o-tanto or ko-wakazashi blade with an extended handle into a perfectly straight cane shaped saya. The sori on shorter nihonto is significantly less to almost non-existent when compared to katana length.
I'm surprised you didn't give so much as a *mention* to Setsuka in the Soulcalibur games; she wields a Shikomizue too, only hers is hidden in a *parasol* . I'd *love* to know if that'd even work. One thing I know *wouldn't* work though, is a shikomizue hidden in a *shamisen* like we see in the Ninja Scroll prologue movie, at least with it being hidden in the *neck* like it shows.
@@vksasdgaming9472 the problem I have with that idea is that the strings would inadvertently *keep* it from being drawn, as they have to be wound *tight* to have the tension they need to twang, vibrate, & make the sound they need to make when you strum them.
@@mariaconcepcionrodriguezhe2850 dude, first off, there's nothing wrong with mentioning anime girls; you're only condemning me for that because it's currently considered the "politically correct" thing to do. Second, if something about her is at all *relevant* to the videos topic, which it *is* in this case, why *shouldn't* they be mentioned?
Never been into katanas, but have always loved the way they look on a shirasaya mount. Might be the minimalist in me but it just looks so clean, like a well made japanese kitchen knife.
I love cane swords personally. They've never really seemed like they were meant for fighting, anyway. They're more for getting the jump on someone who thought they could do the same to you. A sudden blade coming from nowhere would be a pretty big surprise. I'd imagine someone skilled enough in the use of such a weapon could easily dispatch an attacker without much of a fight at all!
There's the other, critical aspect when it comes to disguising a sword as a simple walking stick. That critical aspect is that now your sword looks like a cool stick
Hey Skall, I enjoy your content very much, and I have an idea, that could answer your point about cane swords having no hand slide preventing mechanism. If the shaft and handle are actually made out of bamboo, and the cut line between the handle and the shaft-scabbard is invisible, then the "knee" part that elevates above the "leg" part of the bamboo stem might work well as a protective measure for the palm to not slip off the handle
Nice overview, i agree with all that you've said :} And a nice, but not perfect, example of a sword-stick. Once, back in a while, i made my own walking stick of a broom handle (which was an aluminium tube) with a hidden stiletto blade inside, a four-sided spike blade 35cm length, 45th steel (world analogs are: AISI 1045, JIS S45C, DIN C45, BS 080M46), and a handle made of an epoxy resin with a little crab and herbs inside. The handle was made of several long 10mm nuts screwed over the 10mm threaded rod. All that was covered with a black rubber tape, and then black skin was glued over it. The tube was spray painted in black. The lock was made of a usual 1.5l PET bottle neck. The lower end of a tube was stuffed with a broken bamboo ski stick with a dull steel ending. I didn't use it for a long while, but it's still sitting on a wall mounted stand :}
I love the movie The Swordsman 2021. After his defeat at the beginning he uses it as a staff to walk since being mostly blind. As the movie goes along his walking stick sword gets its parts back as he defeats the bad guys. If you haven’t seen it I recommend you watch it.
the shikomizue on the wikipedia page is mine I used to train kenjutsu back in the days and until now I have some shikomizue on my personal collection. not very sturdy but versatile with those I associated kenjutsu and tanjojutsu tecniques
Hey Skall great video, have you been experimenting with the camera a bit more in this video? The camera work looks great, sometimes you walk into the shot so to speak, or when you turned from one camera and switched to another on the side of the room Well done
Disclaimer (at 3:25 in the video): I would NOT recommend trying to strike either way/with the handle of that. The impact could be such that the blade inside slices the scabbard in half and well... the hands holding it.
I feel the a collapsible tsuba could be incorporated. When the blade is put away, the tsuba locks in a closed position would look like a wooden or brass ring on the handle of the walking stick. When it is drawn, using some kind of spring mechanism the wood or brass ring expands to a guard.
I guess you can also push the button with your left thumb to open the blade. The art of iai makes a lot of use for the left hand in directing the cut and controlling the Saya before the blade exits it.
I can see adding a spring-action hilt pop out from the smooth sides; hidden, apart from a couple hinges, perhaps? It could be metal, with wood scales riveted on for stealth, while not deployed. Seems like plenty of room in the handle to squeeze a mechanism in there.
I've seen bamboo that has a single groove in it, presumably where a leaf grew or something. Mostly on somewhat smaller sections. Either way, that is a creative way to use the disguise as a functional enhancement.
Fun idea: spring-loaded guard quillons for sword-canes. They fold forward and are held by the scabbard. When drawn, they snap back to form a handguard. Also extra friction so the sword won't fall out. I wonder how viable it would be with medieval level technology.
Maybe not Mideval technology, but I can see it being attempted in the Renaissance. The biggest drawbacks I can think of is finding a proper balance between making the mechanism durable while not compromising the rest of the sword, as well as making it as seamless as possible for concealment.
There is another point to consider, for collection purposes - some people might just like the design without the guard. If I had the funds for a massive sword collection I would include one of these on the immersion wall just for the slick / clean appearance it has, due to not having having a guard.
I've got 2 sword canes, but neither of them are particularly well suited for self-defense. They're simply secured too tightly and are quite stiff and difficult to pull out. I'll have to keep my eyes out for one of those shikomizue ones though. Hopefully I can find a good one on sale to add to my collection.
i have a version of this where it has a Tanto or Wakizashi length of blade and a long handle where it stores a very sturdy rope at the handle that breaks into two pieces so now you have a flinging dagger and a Stick to fight with, it come from a relative of mine given to them by a friend in Japan dunno where exactly but they say it’s a remote village, also they had another version with a chain attached to a Kunai sort of and incased inside a walking bamboo stick.
If I had one, I would really want one carved in such a way as to have a small guard to prevent the hand slipping onto the blade. You can have a pommel-like carving, as shown at 9:50, why not a guard-like one? Edit: I've done some googling and there are some who have retractable quillons. I don't how good a protection that is, but probably better than nothing!
With regard to the lack of a guard to prevent damaging oneself with one's own blade, while thrusting with a blade like this, one could employ the use of one hand against the rear of the hilt, maintaining one hand in a more traditional position simply to guide the blades direction, but all the force coming from the other hand.
for the ones that look like an actual walking stick put something that looks like a nub of chopped off twig or branch that sticks out just far enough at about where you would have the guard to stop you from sliding off the grip. you could probably have a second one on the opposite side altho you'd also likely want it to be offset slightly so as not to appear exactly symmetrical
For thrusting maybe put the heel of your off hand on the butt of handle and push? That way the motive force comes from the rear and the strong hand is only to guide the blade.
Its like a concealed pistol vs a rifle or even sub-machinegun, it is generally not as good in direct confrontation but could suprise or excel at carry and convenience
I wonder if you could fashion a rough tsuba by styling it after after one of those bulging wood knots you see on fallen branches. It would look like a crappy stick, which would would be great for concealment. plus the texturing keeps your hand from sliding up.
In Australia I saw and old couple walking with a half size Taiaha as a walking stick. I asked them if they have used them in their travels? The old man gave a sly grin and said, " 3 dogs and 2 youths"
A thought I have: While most canes are short, there are people who walk with a long stick/staff - to shoulder or head height, and grip the stick partway down, with the elbow bent. Has anyone ever made a sword-cane in such a staff? It sounds like it would counter some of the issues here, especially with the initial grip. (Though obviously much of the 'scabbard' would be just a stick at that point.)
Question: How do you think this would this fare compared to just having a cane sturdy enough to use as a bludgeon? If the goal is to be a concealed weapon, not having any sharp bits seems like a pretty big advantage. A shillelagh equivalent would be easier to make and hide.
It really does not look as a simple stick to me. Tho the original recurved versions do. I think it should be a bit longer, maybe even quite a bit longer to be convincing
I also noticed it rattles a lot which could give away the blade inside, I imagine the old ones must have had some lining to reduce that or a snugger fit.
Here’s a fun idea for an emergency sword. Make a sword where the hilt is part of the scabbard when its made. If you ever needed to use it, the scabbard portion would break apart on impact leaving you with a sword. The hilt would have to be replaced, but again, emergency sword
The other thing is couldn't if you are thrusting put your palm on the end off your off hand like rondel daggers you could push with one hand foe the thrust or slam on it
Hail an apothecary, hail an apothecary!... But not for me!
All I can hear is the heckin Space Marine "I need an apothecary!" XD
Why an apothecary when a surgeon, nurse or stretcher bearer is the real need?
@@johndododoe1411? because its a joke…
I came to the comments to write the original meme.
Thou hast bested me, sire.
@@johndododoe1411because most of those things didn't exist when swords were in main use as weapons
Very well summarized. I wouldn't even consider it a "criticism"; more a recognition of a universal truth: a weapon optimized for undetected everyday carry [e.g. P365] will not be the same as a weapon optimized for combat [AR or AK].
A lot of swordbro's on the internet tend to have very strong opinions based on anime and fictional accounts and not facts unfortunately. So one often does have to state the obvious to them.
Don't bring your hidden sword to war and don't bring your war sword, when you need to keep it hidden. It's as simple as that XD
@@Spagettigeist: Formerly ( until about 1980) you often could see men from their mid 40s or older, using a cane without necessarity of a walking aid. From maybe 1500s onwards a cane was a sign of being a grown man, and, when decorated, a sign of status.
Yup. Swordcane isn't a weapon of war, it is a weapon of subterfuge and very good at it, you wouldn't know a well made swordcane is a sword unless you took it away from the person and inspect it closely.
@@brittakriep2938 With or without a hidden sword, canes are pretty neat. It's too bad they have gone out of fashion.
I'm currently decorationg one for a Steampunk cosplay. (Though my decorations are going to be a cheep nock-off as I can't afford the real thing XD)
It's not an inferior sword. It's a superior stick.
I love this quote
This should be pinned
“But of course, humans are always remarkably creative in figuring out how to impede each other’s ability to live.”
Pretty much summed up a good chunk of Human history right there.
Sadly, yes.
I would also remark that humans are also remarkably creative in fabricating complex abstract systems to facilitate cohabitation. Creativity can always create rather than destroy, the most tragic thing is how hard building is, compared to breaking.
I love this sentence XD
@Skallagrim I have seen a japanese sword cane that has a spring loaded gaurd similar to some European sword canes
Notice too how often this sort of innovation is people trying to find ways to defend themselves or fight back, generally in response to when governments try to monopolize power by preventing citizenry from having weapons to fight back with.
I'm abnormally happy about how skall has a propper armory now and it looks like a dojo or some rpg chamber XD
Yeah
I actuely own a orginal cane sword from europe. Even I couldn't tell at first that it wasn't just a cane when I first saw it. It has like a horn handel with a wooden stick. It's a simple twist lock that surprisingly effectif at keeping the blade in and the blade is like a smalle sword blade. It's actuely rather cool.
Nice! Keep it safe, dry and blade clean and oiled.
A relative had one. It had an extremely thin blade, more like a rapier than a sword. I only got to see it when I was a kid and have no idea how old it was. But i was probably six or seven years old when I saw it, so it's been ages.
cane swords are cool, even if the blade is more a novelty, at least the cane would work as a cane but still when you get one that's made right they're super cool, more of a holdout weapon than for fighting wars though which is perfect
@@blahorgaslisk7763 "More like a rapier than a sword" A rapier is a sword though?
If a person is planning on carrying a weapon they need to train at home on pulling said weapon from various positions.
Absolutely.
One of the most important things about carrying a handgun which is often overlooked. Target practice is good but training to draw is vital.
@@WarriorCicada A tremendous number of self inflicted gun wounds are from accidental discharges while carrying or attempting to draw. Either the safety gets caught on a loose strap/buckle, the owner unlocks the safety when hiding it, or the owner pulls the trigger as they fumble to extricate it.
I train with my collapsable baton all the time. I look like exactly like someone who would get mugged in the streets, so I train to draw my baton and extend it. I try to get some of Skallagrim technique to deffend and attack
@@danilonakazone386 you will eventually need to find a training partner to spar and practice your technique with otherwise you will have difficulty applying them if you should ever have to, practicing your draw will only ensure you can reliably getting your hand on your weapon without having to think about it.
The annoying thing about those "cheaper" sword canes is not only them being sword-shaped, they're too short to be a convincing walking stick. If the scabbard was at least a foot or two longer, then you can hold it naturally at the holding point of the sword. Even better, if it's long enough, it would make sense having a nice grippy leather wrap at the right handling spot for sword wielding!
Ideally it would be made based on the user's height and limb length anyway.
@@Skallagrim Of course! You match the sword to the wielder... but the stick it's going to be in can be deceptively longer. Both for more comfortable walking, and to make it hard to see how long the sword will be when drawing.😏
And if the scabbard is long enough, you can dual wield!
@@Appletank8 You could, but a wooden tube by itself wouldn't be terrible durable or useful.
Japanese people were short, they're at average height today is because of modern food. So, all the arguments about katana are short compared to European sword is actually looking at them through western eyeglass. Of course, katana are short today, it is because Japanese gain height.
Another thing that could be done to discreetly stop you from losing your fingies in the thrust, would be to just put an indent at the blade end of the hilt for your index and middle finger to sort of rest in, and furthermore you could even add a thumb recess... it could be disguised to look like a natural part of the shape of the stick if done correctly.
How about a small lanyard on the end of the handle? A lot of walking sticks have lanyards so that you can hang it on your hand when you're doing something so that it doesn't fall on the ground. Having the lanyard around your wrist or palm would help with the thrusting issue albeit with the downside of basically locking your hand to the weapon.
Just wear disguised chain mail gauntlets. “Surely you wouldn’t deprive an old fishmonger of his gloves?🥺”
I'm a simple fan. I see Zatoichi, I click.
The best series
As do i
Watching Zatoichi as a teen cemented my love for swords
A Katana is always better than anything western because the fold was steeled a million times
Those movies are so fricking good. Even Takeshi Kitanos, yes, but I am specifically talking about the series of movies with Shintaro Katsu as Zatoichi.
As a corrupted steward once said, "I told you to take the wizard's staff!".
You had me at “stick”.
The stick, the mightiest of weapons
Stick very good
What's a sword than just a sharp metal stick
get stick'd
stick beat knives....when there is a 2 feet long blade in it
Ever since I saw the movie "blind fury" with Rutger Hauer, I have been fascinated by that type of sword and have wanted one ever since.
"Nice doggy..." he says and steps over the gator...
That movie was based on elements from several Zatoichi movies.
There are cane swords for sale online.
"Call an AMBULANCE! Call an AMBULANCE!!! But not for ME!"
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I love these skits with the side camera!
Glad to know! I figured switching angles would make the vid a bit more dynamic and visually interesting.
Classic Skal video!
Informative, immersive, and fun!
Thanks!
Really enjoying the different camera angles. Seems like a small thing, but adds a lot.
In my region of Germany a Spazierstock or only Stock is a craftsman made cane, while a Stecken is a simple selfmade stick, cutaway from a bush, without a metal tip. Both items had been in 1970s/ 1980s by men in their midfourties or older still sometimes used as a mans item without necessarity of a walking aid.
In those days, when every grown man had a cane/ stick, they had been often used as weapons, the metallic or wooden knob handles acted as maceheqd, and pointy antlerpieces used as pick could be dangerous. Sometimes wooden knobs had been filled with lead, or in center or stick was a steel rod. There had been hollow canes with a knife, stilleto blade, smallswordblade , thick steelrods, whips, a piece of wire rope, a piece of spring with a ball, q pistol, or the stick was a barrel, mostly for shotgun cartidges.
I once met a guy who studied the traditional fighting techniques used by the Italian organised crime and the two main weapons they trained were knives and canes with heavy handles.
my grandfather worked in a coal mine. when he stopped working there he got a cane with a pick as a head (häckel). it is npt intended as one, but as a weapon this would be brutal
Interesting concept: Cane Sword that is also a Shillelagh.
Since the striking end of the shillelagh would most likely be placed at the base of the sword's hilt, you would also have the benefit of both weapon types wanting the center of mass to generally be in the same area.
As far as I know the lock button was only ever used on military Gunto's (for obvious practical reasons)
I assume the reason why this reproduction was made with it was just for extra security so that if you had a loose scabbard made for battojutsu, there'd be less chance of the blade accidentally flying out
Hey skal! 2 things. the button release was used a lot on the metal scabbards for katana leading up to and during ww2. Also your hand wont slide up the handle because your supporting hands pinky is supposed to be halfway off the bottom of the sword, lining up right where a pommel would start. You drill hand positions a ton in batto and Eijitsu, cheers.
Hm, how would the finger position on the off-hand prevent the main hand from slipping?
@@Skallagrim I'd figure that the clenching of the ring and little finger around air instead of the handle would lead to a narrowing passage effect where it becomes more difficult for the handle to slide through your grip on a thrust, due to it having to now face the resistance of the grip strength of your ring and little fingers + having a narrower passage to attempt to force itself through.
Notes: Tested this with a wooden staff, my apartment wall(concrete), and soaped hands. The testing method was to brace the staff so it wouldn't slip, grip the end with my ring and little finger off of the end, and try to walk myself into the wall.
Result: Surprisingly, my hand did not slip at all, and I ended up failing to slip, to the point that I was just leaning into the staff and trying to walk forward as hard as I could with no slippage. I'd suspect that the grip that was described in this comment might be worth testing for thrusting with swords similar to the shikomizue in this video, preferably with some sort of serious hand protection.
Disclaimer: I only weigh 55kg on an average humid day. I recommend taking proper protective measures for any sort of testing with live blades instead of stick vs concrete wall.
@@Skallagrim just saw this i’m not onehundred on how it works so well but it does. It is one of the reasons cutting off your ring finger is such an important gesture in the yakuza.
Thanks for advising Seki sensei, that's very nice of you❤
Watching you pull the sword out of the stick feels like watching a magic trick, I can't help but smile
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Ive been really enjoying these recent videos
I've always liked the idea of a sword-cane, like you said, even if they are a worse sword overall. They are really cool, glad to see you talk about and review one!
In it's context of use it is excellent tool. It should work as walking stick and having a sword (or just knife) in it makes it have nasty surprise. Alex of Clockwork Orange has knife instead of sword hidden in handle of his stick.
I love that you referenced Seki Sensei. Respect those who know the limits of their expertise.
Joerg Sparve lately made a double extendable tanto, which gives an idea... A walking stick that converts to a tanto and some kind of short nagamaki thing. That would be quiet a combo!
Lock blade on a stick, i want to make one.
'But of course, humans beings are always remarkably creative in figuring out how to impede each other's ability to live' is a great line
A meiju period cane sword could easily be made using a normal tanto or possibly even an o-tanto or ko-wakazashi blade with an extended handle into a perfectly straight cane shaped saya. The sori on shorter nihonto is significantly less to almost non-existent when compared to katana length.
I'm surprised you didn't give so much as a *mention* to Setsuka in the Soulcalibur games; she wields a Shikomizue too, only hers is hidden in a *parasol* . I'd *love* to know if that'd even work.
One thing I know *wouldn't* work though, is a shikomizue hidden in a *shamisen* like we see in the Ninja Scroll prologue movie, at least with it being hidden in the *neck* like it shows.
You might be able to make sword that you can hide in neck of shamisen, but that instrument would fail the litmus test of being functional instrument.
@@vksasdgaming9472 the problem I have with that idea is that the strings would inadvertently *keep* it from being drawn, as they have to be wound *tight* to have the tension they need to twang, vibrate, & make the sound they need to make when you strum them.
Im *suprised* you *didnt* even so much as *mention* my *stupid* anime girl🤬😠
@@mariaconcepcionrodriguezhe2850 dude, first off, there's nothing wrong with mentioning anime girls; you're only condemning me for that because it's currently considered the "politically correct" thing to do.
Second, if something about her is at all *relevant* to the videos topic, which it *is* in this case, why *shouldn't* they be mentioned?
the mighty stick just became mightier!
I've always loved the elegent flush-fit mounting styles of the shirasaya and shikomizue.
these videos, nerding about foreign swords and practical uses of them, they're really good
Never been into katanas, but have always loved the way they look on a shirasaya mount. Might be the minimalist in me but it just looks so clean, like a well made japanese kitchen knife.
I love cane swords personally. They've never really seemed like they were meant for fighting, anyway. They're more for getting the jump on someone who thought they could do the same to you. A sudden blade coming from nowhere would be a pretty big surprise. I'd imagine someone skilled enough in the use of such a weapon could easily dispatch an attacker without much of a fight at all!
I would say more than expected,depending on lenght. Kodachi or tanto size seems the best
So it's the Kyoshin episode now, I see.
We're completing our For Honor weapons irl analysis.
Weapons the opponent isnt aware of are Always the best weapons
The thumbnail gave me an idea. Secret Sword Santa. It's exactly what it sounds like. We all get swords.
Nice video! Cool sword!
There's the other, critical aspect when it comes to disguising a sword as a simple walking stick. That critical aspect is that now your sword looks like a cool stick
@Skallagrim , I've loved your content for over a decade now, and have learned so much from you. Keep it going my man! Much love 💪
Hey Skall, I enjoy your content very much, and I have an idea, that could answer your point about cane swords having no hand slide preventing mechanism. If the shaft and handle are actually made out of bamboo, and the cut line between the handle and the shaft-scabbard is invisible, then the "knee" part that elevates above the "leg" part of the bamboo stem might work well as a protective measure for the palm to not slip off the handle
At 7:57 I think the light helped show the groove you were talking about lol
ah, a new fan of Seki Sensei i see
Skall
Your old geezer impression had me in more stitches than that bade ever would lmao
Nice overview, i agree with all that you've said :}
And a nice, but not perfect, example of a sword-stick.
Once, back in a while, i made my own walking stick of a broom handle (which was an aluminium tube) with a hidden stiletto blade inside, a four-sided spike blade 35cm length, 45th steel (world analogs are: AISI 1045, JIS S45C, DIN C45, BS 080M46), and a handle made of an epoxy resin with a little crab and herbs inside.
The handle was made of several long 10mm nuts screwed over the 10mm threaded rod. All that was covered with a black rubber tape, and then black skin was glued over it. The tube was spray painted in black. The lock was made of a usual 1.5l PET bottle neck. The lower end of a tube was stuffed with a broken bamboo ski stick with a dull steel ending.
I didn't use it for a long while, but it's still sitting on a wall mounted stand :}
It’s as good as a Skal post on this very fine Saturday!!!
Pls boost cause I wanna see Skal do a test of a Monk’s Spade!!!
I own several cane swords and love them.. never had to use them
I love the movie The Swordsman 2021. After his defeat at the beginning he uses it as a staff to walk since being mostly blind. As the movie goes along his walking stick sword gets its parts back as he defeats the bad guys. If you haven’t seen it I recommend you watch it.
the shikomizue on the wikipedia page is mine
I used to train kenjutsu back in the days and until now I have some shikomizue on my personal collection.
not very sturdy but versatile
with those I associated kenjutsu and tanjojutsu tecniques
Hey Skall great video, have you been experimenting with the camera a bit more in this video? The camera work looks great, sometimes you walk into the shot so to speak, or when you turned from one camera and switched to another on the side of the room
Well done
Disclaimer (at 3:25 in the video): I would NOT recommend trying to strike either way/with the handle of that. The impact could be such that the blade inside slices the scabbard in half and well... the hands holding it.
I feel the a collapsible tsuba could be incorporated. When the blade is put away, the tsuba locks in a closed position would look like a wooden or brass ring on the handle of the walking stick. When it is drawn, using some kind of spring mechanism the wood or brass ring expands to a guard.
I guess you can also push the button with your left thumb to open the blade. The art of iai makes a lot of use for the left hand in directing the cut and controlling the Saya before the blade exits it.
I can see adding a spring-action hilt pop out from the smooth sides; hidden, apart from a couple hinges, perhaps? It could be metal, with wood scales riveted on for stealth, while not deployed. Seems like plenty of room in the handle to squeeze a mechanism in there.
I've seen bamboo that has a single groove in it, presumably where a leaf grew or something. Mostly on somewhat smaller sections. Either way, that is a creative way to use the disguise as a functional enhancement.
Fun idea: spring-loaded guard quillons for sword-canes. They fold forward and are held by the scabbard. When drawn, they snap back to form a handguard. Also extra friction so the sword won't fall out.
I wonder how viable it would be with medieval level technology.
Maybe not Mideval technology, but I can see it being attempted in the Renaissance. The biggest drawbacks I can think of is finding a proper balance between making the mechanism durable while not compromising the rest of the sword, as well as making it as seamless as possible for concealment.
Great video, I have one and I love that the sheath is a weapon, great new set by the way!
Very interesting mini exposé. Thank you
Great video Skall!!
That was a great concept. I liked it a lot.
Sword canes: Walking sticks with a fun surprise inside.
Enjoyed the video, would love to see another video about conceled walking stick swords in general.
There is another point to consider, for collection purposes - some people might just like the design without the guard.
If I had the funds for a massive sword collection I would include one of these on the immersion wall just for the slick / clean appearance it has, due to not having having a guard.
your eyes are beautifully, piercingly blue. That "man with a bad knee" scene was intense lol
Super cool, I'd like to see more "hidden swords" stuff.
Side camera is great!
And we so a little bit more of your collection that way :)
I've got 2 sword canes, but neither of them are particularly well suited for self-defense. They're simply secured too tightly and are quite stiff and difficult to pull out. I'll have to keep my eyes out for one of those shikomizue ones though. Hopefully I can find a good one on sale to add to my collection.
i have a version of this where it has a Tanto or Wakizashi length of blade and a long handle where it stores a very sturdy rope at the handle that breaks into two pieces so now you have a flinging dagger and a Stick to fight with, it come from a relative of mine given to them by a friend in Japan dunno where exactly but they say it’s a remote village, also they had another version with a chain attached to a Kunai sort of and incased inside a walking bamboo stick.
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If I had one, I would really want one carved in such a way as to have a small guard to prevent the hand slipping onto the blade.
You can have a pommel-like carving, as shown at 9:50, why not a guard-like one?
Edit: I've done some googling and there are some who have retractable quillons.
I don't how good a protection that is, but probably better than nothing!
Your armory is missing an important blunt, and iron pan
With regard to the lack of a guard to prevent damaging oneself with one's own blade, while thrusting with a blade like this, one could employ the use of one hand against the rear of the hilt, maintaining one hand in a more traditional position simply to guide the blades direction, but all the force coming from the other hand.
4:29 why dont press it with the thumb?
OG concealed carry
for the ones that look like an actual walking stick put something that looks like a nub of chopped off twig or branch that sticks out just far enough at about where you would have the guard to stop you from sliding off the grip. you could probably have a second one on the opposite side altho you'd also likely want it to be offset slightly so as not to appear exactly symmetrical
For thrusting maybe put the heel of your off hand on the butt of handle and push? That way the motive force comes from the rear and the strong hand is only to guide the blade.
Your impersonation of me was 10/10 with that intro 😂😂😂.
Its like a concealed pistol vs a rifle or even sub-machinegun, it is generally not as good in direct confrontation but could suprise or excel at carry and convenience
I wonder if you could fashion a rough tsuba by styling it after after one of those bulging wood knots you see on fallen branches. It would look like a crappy stick, which would would be great for concealment. plus the texturing keeps your hand from sliding up.
In Australia I saw and old couple walking with a half size Taiaha as a walking stick. I asked them if they have used them in their travels? The old man gave a sly grin and said, " 3 dogs and 2 youths"
Walking stick often have a loop on top which, when on the wrist, might prevent one's hand from sliding up the blade
A thought I have: While most canes are short, there are people who walk with a long stick/staff - to shoulder or head height, and grip the stick partway down, with the elbow bent.
Has anyone ever made a sword-cane in such a staff? It sounds like it would counter some of the issues here, especially with the initial grip. (Though obviously much of the 'scabbard' would be just a stick at that point.)
Question: How do you think this would this fare compared to just having a cane sturdy enough to use as a bludgeon? If the goal is to be a concealed weapon, not having any sharp bits seems like a pretty big advantage. A shillelagh equivalent would be easier to make and hide.
Thank You very much for the new video !! 😊
Awesome video as always, damn cool stuff
It really does not look as a simple stick to me. Tho the original recurved versions do. I think it should be a bit longer, maybe even quite a bit longer to be convincing
4:40
Also, it makes it more noticeable that there is something different about that stick.
I also noticed it rattles a lot which could give away the blade inside, I imagine the old ones must have had some lining to reduce that or a snugger fit.
Here’s a fun idea for an emergency sword. Make a sword where the hilt is part of the scabbard when its made. If you ever needed to use it, the scabbard portion would break apart on impact leaving you with a sword. The hilt would have to be replaced, but again, emergency sword
Needs a handstop loop/lanyard at the tsuba/pummel, deployed around the four fingers/ crux of thumb and pointer finger.
That Zatoichi movie though, pretty good!
Reminds me the one who appears in Serpent's path (1998) where its a turn lock one, very effective on the film
Impracticalities aside, Ukyo Tachibana & Hibiki Takane (to my eyes) have always made wielding shirasaya style swords seem dope to me. 😊
"it's not a bug, it's a feature"
Killin' it Skall.
The other thing is couldn't if you are thrusting put your palm on the end off your off hand like rondel daggers you could push with one hand foe the thrust or slam on it
Sword canes are soo cool.
Nice video too.
It needs a metal spike on the sheath tip. Because rocky mountain paths are treacherous don't you know? Also, hourglass grip shape would help.