@@sambauman69 stone walls are important to stop raiding since you need siege weapons to damage them they are essential for late game strategy especially if you are a fighting a highly mobile raiding faction like the Chinese or the Mongols
@@sambauman69 oh yes it is in AOE4 why? well because castles. or you said keeps. what so special. well trebuchetes. and not sure about aoe4 but in aoe2. this building is where the unique comes from. or "champian"
Kinda lame, for sure I will be playing AOE3. Big Cons: drop off sites (will suck for hunting) The biggest con is not having military train in batches. This game will be all about micromanaging :-(
I’ve played aoe4 quite a bit as an age 3 player and yes it is a ton of micromanaging every buildings so many upgrades that have nothing unique about them.
Even in AoE2 building a mill for for for 4 deer was cost effective (obviously, when they are close to your town center). Even if AoE3 had drop points it would've been better to build a drop point for 100 wood units, because the quantity of animals in most maps it's so huge that you won't end up hunting all of them most of the times.
AoE IV is a massive disappointment ... its just AoE 2 with "better" graphics. They killed all good things from AoE 3 (card shipments, batch units training, no resource drop off points needed ... ) and made a game paste SLOW and borring. I loved AoE 3 cause you could play several games in an hour. AoE 2 was good on its own, didnt needed any change, so why make AoE 4 thats actually, as I said, AoE 2 with "better" graphics is beyond me. No self respecing AoE 2 player will play this abomination, nor any AoE 3 player will find AoE 4 better than AoE 3. 7 years in making and they come up with this??? How about taking terrain into gighting mechanics ... units going up-hill getting range attack ressitnece reversed (+20 % for example), units shooting downhill getting ranged attack increased, units in wood terrain getting range resistance increased etc. etc. ... so many other thing they could do make it even more strategic game. Sorry Drongo, but I think I will unsubscribe since you seem to drop AoE 3 for AoE 4 ... hope that works for you.
I doubt Drongo will drop AoE 3, especially since it seems most aoe3 players will stay there, so if he makes videos for both games, he can basically double his audience.
@@0nni1998 yeah, but just leave aoe2 to be itself, it didnt need a remake. I find aoe4 just to be a shitter version of aoe3 as it isnt aoe2, but it isnt full on aoe3.
@@sowishful Why would it get love? Microsoft had AoE updated so the AoE4 team could learn about what made a game AoE 15 years after the release of AoE3. I like AoE3 its better than AoE2 but all the DEs were development for AoE4.
Först These mechanics in AoE 4 makes a slower game time compared to AoE 3. But I loved the wonder and sacred site cuz I think it's a very exciting and competitive victory conditions. Especially for the turtle strat. Unlike AoE 3, turtling players cannot win without destroying their opponent.
I'm not a fan of the slower paced AoE2 style. With all the successful modern RTS (starcraft, etc) fast pacing is key. Even with a wonder though you cannot pure turtle anymore because the enemy wiill just go for a sacred site victory - which is faster. They main problem with turtling as well is there is no late game gold income so if you use most of it on upgrades, you wont have many units to fight with. There are no factories or plantations AoE2 had trade carts and relics but they dont give you enough to sustain unit production.
The Land mark system also prevents cockroaching. Which makes me sad. But will probably make a lot of players happy. Once the enemy finds your big land mark buildings, and destroys them, you are out of the game. You won't be able to hide out in a corner of the map with One villager in a FFA match. And slowly rebuild your empire from a single lumber camp. If they take out the big easily Spotable buildings, you are out.
@@robertkeaney9905 It wont matter as much - even with the Asian civs in AoE3, they age up with landmarks, but if you destroy them it wont send you back in ages. It will certainly have a big impact on your eco/strategy but you could build up once again as long as you had villagers and a TC. Cock-roaching is really annoying though because it makes games drag on - which is never fun. This is after all, a game and games are meant to be fun.
@@graemes8187 Well, I mean, in a 1 v 1 situation I can see how Cock roaching is annoying. But in FFA games my greatest joy is surviving a massive early raid. To some how sneak off with at least a few villagers. And then slowly build my way back up from the shadows. To become a credible threat by the end of the game. In AoE IV you automatically lose if all your TC's are down and all of your Land marks are down. It doesn't matter if you have 20 vills and an archer range hiding at at edge of the map. Special Important buildings go down, and boom you lose. Which is good because it means you can't just have one dude hiding a single vil behind a cliff. But it also means you can't have incredible come backs in FFA games. Its a lot more Cut and Dry. Defend your land marks/TC's or you lose.
AOE 4 = AOE2+ModernUI-LessCiv So basically want all AOE2 players move to AOE4. It will be challenging as AOE2 has 30 Plus civilizations. That being said AOE3 is solid,fast and more dynamic game compared to AOE2/AOE4.
unit micro is very different in aoe2 and aoe4, it's much more complex in aoe2. And the civs are much more different from each other in aoe4 vs aoe2. It's slower than aoe3 but quite a bit faster than aoe2.
So, AoE4 is basically AoE2 that got its late game issues sorted out What i don't like is that you made two points for turtle strategies in this video and i am certain that AoE4 is slower but it seems that it's going to have that much action...
@@graemes8187 i see you haven't built 30 or 40 trade carts from a well placed and defended market. You can get enough gold to keep up unit production. And the neutral markets in Aoe 4 makes it possible to never run out of gold in a 1v1
I'm surprised batch training was not kept from AoE3. The faster pace of AoE3 seems more akin to modern design principles and this game bucks that trend.
Number 7 was in AoE1 - even the theme of it being ruins you have to cap. Relic probably saw it as a prefect opportunity to bring it back since it's also the sort of victory condition they favor.
I really like the mechanics and the similarities to AOE2 but the graphics really turn me off. AOE3 looks so beautiful. Why did they take such a huge step back? I can't be the only one feeling like that.
what, aoe3 had too much glow, too much artificial smoothening and was oversaturated and clumsy to play although it was good to look at. This might be okay to play in campaign mode, but a huge hindrance in competitive play. aoe2 had no glow, had hard edges everywhere and was too minimalistic and utilitarian. I find aoe4 to be the perfect balance with a slight glow, smooth edges without the artificial jitter, and much more resolving to play than aoe2 while also looking better than aoe3, and mainly much better shadows than aoe3.
You know that most footage comes from a "stress test" So focus was: can the servers handle the amount of players and not: hey here is our gamd, try it, because it will be like that on release
It's an art style choice not a "step back", there's a difference, plus a game doesn't need to have realistic graphics to be good ,look at age of empires 2 (2013) , it has more players than aoe 3 DE lmao
The lack of generalized military batch training is a bit heartbreaking. That is going to slow down the game significantly while also increasing the surface area of your base.
i have found that i like 3 better than 2 because I have a bit more options with the chosen empire. More buildings, more things I can find on the map, the card deck. I hope that will still be there.
Each civ is a bit more diverse than they were in Age of Empires 2. They do feel different. And with the landmark system you shape your civ a bit as you go up ages. But there is no card system. So people who liked that about Age of Empire 3 or Wargames (to mention an other game with cards) will be a bit disappointed that the game lacks that. I think each of the 3 games will have their fans. And I will play each of the game even going forward (Though I wish for a proper remaster of Age of Mythology and Rise of Legend to. I do not think one can even buy a digital copy of RoL :( )
aoe2 has much larger player base and targeting them is the most logical choice, aoe4 is a faster aoe2 with some good game mechanics from aoe3 and some improvements.
@@Cythil I bought age 3. I liked it. it had interesting parts. I havn't play any aoe game in a long time. I probably like AOE2 better. over all. its a more microing game. I like the stone and having to build mining camps etc. and training soilders one by one. which I like aoe3 also. multiple units at once. no drop of. it give you a bit more military control. stuff like that. I think the cards are a good feture. and the trading outposts. how you can upgrade to a train etc. and how you can chose 2 different "empires" etc.
As an AOE III player yeah this AOE IV is pretty much like AOE II in terms of mechanics but they did add some AOE III features as you have mentioned in the vid. Missing is the mass military unit training like in AOE III and this game requires you to make 5 or more barracks to make 5+ units unless you rely on the increased unit production speed tech from the civs tech tree. Only nitpick is the units in aoe iv still look slightly cartoony! 🤣
That's the idea. If you watch or play any of the 4v4s I haven't seen the slightest hiccup in performance with 1600 population out in the game fighting. Spirit of the Law showed off a 4v4 game and it runs buttery smooth.
Yeah, and I love it. AOE2 is one of the best strategy games of all time. AOE3 was dog shit by comparison... I played it for about 3 hours and HATED IT. I'm loving AOE4 and how to advance into the newer ages. Its a traditional AOE game, and I'm thoroughly enjoying it thus far.
@@obiwankenobi785 Aoe 4 will have modding tools which makes me expect their will be a lot of mods some might make it more like Aoe 3. Aoe 3 is my least favorite Aoe game but it's still a really good game
4:35 though it is suspicious, that shortly before IV releases, both II&III get civs with special mills, that in a way boost the gathering rate of farms around them, (even though the specifics are different in the case of II, giving you instead a part of the food, when you build the farm)
Yeah, but they removed all game mechanics pros uses for microing Housewalling Quickwalling Dodging arrows Hill bonus Sheepscouting So im wondering what will replace this micro? If nothing i think the game will be much less exciting from a competetive standpoint, both for players and viewers
@@AttiliusRex I think the asymetric factions is a big change though. Imagine putting a "half price villager" cheap tech in feudal age in aoe2, it would break the entire game balance, whereas in this, its balanced because other civs also get absurd bonuses in very niche areas. You can't dodge arrows or micro as much since units have slight acceleration and dont turn instantly, but there's so many other decision-making things that go into a match. AoE4 I think just moves some stuff away from micro and moves it toward macro. I don't just mean economy, but the general ideas of what to build next or where to go, just because the factions are so different. The civs to me are more akin to the civ differences in something like Company of Heroes, where even though every faction gets a "machine gunner" they all deploy at different rates, have different arcs, suppress at different rates, etc etc.
@@McSniffle yeah, but coh has directionsl cover, targeted abilites like grandes etc to make the combat skillbased and microintensive Not sure what aoe4 has, or are all battles won before the engagment (eg numbers, counterunits and upgrades)?
@@AttiliusRex Like I said, the CoH aspect of it is only that the civs are more distinct from each other. I don't disagree with you that the game has moved more away from micro and more toward macro and thats fine. I dont believe a game is more competitive-centric if it has more micro, it just changes the nature of the competition. I play fighting games competitively but I dont think thats more or less competitive play than someone playing chess.
@@TrikeGarage There's a specific command for doing that. But also more generally I rather think SupCom has a level of automation that Age fans would dislike. And Starcraft fans for that matter. TA-based games have optimized automation and planning tools cos they're played at a very distant, strategic level. Fights are much closer in and smaller in AoE.
Pathing is horrible at the moment, if you attack an enemy army you better click on one of the many first roll of the soldiers, otherwise your troops just goes around and try’s to attack that single enemy solider in the middle. IMO AOE3 does a lot better at this, if your troop can’t reach the target they will immediately seek the closest enemy to them.
what I've found from comment section is that aoe2 players love the game and aoe3 players hate the game. Considering that aoe2 has much larger player base, I think it will be a huge success.
It doesnt have enough playerbase, aoe2 players wont stop playing aoe2, and aoe3 players dont like it so they wont migrate either. Rts are not that popular, so it will be a niche game in a gamepass environment, its too expensive on steam
Both player bases hate it because its too much like the other. Its fine to like your favorite game but really no one would've been happy unless AoE4 was DE deluxe edition or their game. And players saying its not going to get a player base because not a lot of AoE2 and 3 will transfer over I don't think Microsoft had them in mind really because if you played a game for 20 and 15 years respectively you're not going to leave. Microsoft drew from AoE2 the most because its time tested to be the more played game. I think AoE4 will be a game onto its own what I saw over the weekend were people trying to play AoE2 and AoE3 in AoE4. Microsoft made the definitive editions to give the AoE team exposure to games to make AoE4, but it some people think the DEs were the priority.
@@luisperalesbo If you've player a game for 20 years or 15 years you're not migrating over those are the core people you're talking about. Take a step back and look at the RTS scene Starcraft 2 AoE2 Warcraft 3 AoE3 and Company of Heroes. Company of Heroes is the newest game coming out 2013. RTS is ripe for a new game. Starcraft 2 by far is the most active, but Blizzard is removing support for it and in a game with three Civs (literally only 6 different match ups) the lack of updates and how fast the games it's going to make it a very stale game. It will keep its core but it won't gain as many new people.
Am I the only one who dislikes all the icons and buttons in Aoe4? Why does it look like a social media button? It's the same with the changes from Civ 5 to Civ 6, too cartoony, and all the buttons were so... lifeless, soulless, just general social media looking buttons. Ew.
I know we havent seen everything yet but the Sacred Site was an interesting thing to figure out! Not to mention it looks like they've possibly done away with treasures on the map? My scout feels like a sheep herder rather than a treasure and enemy finder...I do enjoy the ability to win via 3 options rather than beefiest most advanced = win. It gives us slow, economically incompetent individuals a fighting chance lol.
I think Microsoft is trying to make a big push into competitive RTS, espically since Blizzard is starting to take support away from Starcraft2. They can't have matches that last hours if that's the case.
@@JJ-zr6fu Absolutely I agree, it took me an hour+ just to beat the AI enemies during the trial period. Naturally with more strategic enemies and alternatives ways of winning things would move significantly faster. I feel generally overall it is a huge step in the competitive direction and makes it more challenging.
@@gtone339 Right, my point was we arent seeing as many cross overs from III as we are from the previous games. Was more a general acknowledgement than anything else and something minor to most other players anyways.
Hey man, recently found your channel and I can't give enough compliments. I was just wondering if there was a possibility you could apply some timestamps throughout a video like this? Helps viewers who might already know bits of info to jump to a point that is more applicable for them :)
as age 3 lover getting disappointment, specially with unit creation mechanism. Trade monopoly seems extra hard in age 4, it was already hard in age 3.people rarely pulled that off.
Home city cards should only for sending units, crates of food, gold, wood and stones but not for military and economic improvement researchs. All of those techs should be within buliding related to it. Like in Aoe 2.
aoe3 were overseas colonies, so shipments make sense, aoe4 and aoe2 are empires and shipments are non sensical in this context, and too many strategies means new players are less likely to stay for long time since it is a lot of work to learn all those.
@@ritwikreddy5670 why? It drastically improves the chances of weaker players winning through some unforeseen twist. It also makes one less dependent on perfect micro, which broadens the spectrum of players. I can come back to AoE3 without spending hours on training my buildorders.
1-3... it's just "it's Age of Empires II". 4... it's Age of Mythology, but you build landmarks to age up. 5... some buildings have area effect buffs, that varies with civ 6... it's back to "it's Age of Empires II" 7... it's "it's Age of Empires I" Is anything carried over?
All those things are carried over from other Aoe games. Some civs have access to the culverin an anti siege unit cannon. The cannons in Aoe 4 are more powerful similar to Aoe 3. Some warships have aoe 3's broadside mechanic. Units show all the bonus damage they inflict like in aoe 3. Ranged units have a weaker melee attack like in aoe 3. Less more asymmetrical civs like in Aoe 3. All civs have culture specific graphics for units and buildings similar to how aoe 3 had non European factions I'm sure there is more.
Aoe4 is obviously a sequel to aoe2, not aoe3, yet this video makes it look like aoe3 was a succesful sequel to aoe2, which is simply false as even aom:de has more average players than aoe3:de...
Dropoff+techs Aoe 2 one unit per time Aoe2 stone is back cannon occupy less population（ imperial bombard is 12 in AOE3， but 4 in AOE4？） more like AOE2 and AOE3=AOE4
I like aoe 3 style more but sadly i cant accept its graphics style compared to aoe 4 . Aoe 4 uave best graphics and physics of movment in the franchise
The main difference betwenn relic and sacred site victory is that you cannot fortify 3 sites the way you can do to 1 monastery (that was already in your town). So, I really think that sacred site is more related to trade monopoly victory than to relic.
@@jjforcebreaker i really dislike how the arrows look and work. It doesn't make sense that archers should hit units moving diagonally or changing direction with 100% accuracy. And area of effect siege weapons need to damage friendly units as well
i think this game will use a different aproach to age2 players and with they tradition, maybe some will try it, i personally am thinking this game brings all age2 slow pace game style and i think this pretty boring, no explorer, auras, decks, things that give a lot of ideas of build orders, i know is just a beta, but looks like the final game will go in these directions, is cool for who like this style, i'll stay with aoe3de and his much more interesting civs and gameplay
Here’s a comment to help the channel and constructive criticism lol but this video sucks lol nothing at all important here and there’s actually some big changes that you could have mentioned.
@ Yeah, disappointed - that was the mechanic in AoE2 and it did nothing. This game was always gonna be heavily based on AoE2, because of popularity. Oh well.
Really liked that "list style" format of this video over the more "narrated" ones on this channel! Helpful things to keep in mind transitioning from AOE 3 to AOE 4. Good video!
1. Resource drop off is like AOE2 2. Resource techs are like AOE2 3. Military unit training is like AOE2 4. Ageing up is like AOE3: Asian Dynasties 5. We got a new mechanic! 6. Wonder victory is like AOE2 7. Sacred site victory is kinda like trade monopoly victory from AOE3
@@obiwankenobi785 what it was always clear. Aoe 3 players were actually delusional in what they expected for this game. No shit it’s gonna be more similar to 2 than 3. I’ve put in a dozen hours in this game across both hours and the duo I play with is an aoe2 fanatic so far it seems to be a middle ground game for both playerbases
@@masterdclone2172 that's actually good thing in my opinion they took aspects from both games and treid to cater to what the fans liked in each game... the game isn't even finished yet and people are allready nit picking it lol. " the graphics" says aoe 2 players that play a game with graphics from 20 years ago with crap path finding lol
Since you've played and casted Age of Empires 2, Age of Empires 3 and Age of Empires 4 quite a bit, is there a potential future where you'd do a lengthier video about this topic? Mainly because you have such a lot of experience in each. Would love to hear your thoughts on what's good, what's bad and what's different. I love AoE2 but haven't played AoE3 and I've barely touched AoE4. Does AoE3 still have a place or has AoE4 just replaced it?
the wonder victory mechanic was the same in AOE1. An expensive building that tells your opponents when its built and need to destroy within a time frame or you lose.
@@ritwikreddy5670 but all the games on aoe2 are played as "conquest" i.e. destroy enemy. "Standard" vicotryi.e. Wonder victory is only possible in lobby matches
Check out a channel called Turin. He does a lot of Total War stuff and could probably do a cool collaboration with you talking about different RTS games. He’s a really cool dude, been watching him for years and would love getting to see y’all work together.
The population will only be 200 if they dont change it on release or add options like 200, 500 etc. I played the beta and I loved everything about aoe4, sounds are realistic sounds cool asf warriors scream when charging etc but i actually thougt the battles would be bigger as shown in trailers
Haha, in some multiplayer games in aoe3, I remember having like two villagers left. If I was able to find thick enough trees, the map would glitch and I could hide my villagers from the minimap, so the enemy couldn’t see them, even with spies. Probably super annoying, but I was quite young at the time, haha
they did a good job copying aoe2 way more than aoe3 since aoe has a niche tiny community (of which i'm a part) but I can adapt once they fix the little things like shift clicking build; and bugs where certain upgrades don't show up on notification when completed. Finally the dark age into feudal age is a touch slower than aoe3 (aoe3: 3min age up 90sec transition vs aoe4: 3ish min age up 2 min transition).
Nothing beats AOE3 Gameplay. AOE4 is backdated shit with new graphics. I regret buying it, it is expensive shit with such a shit gameplay. Too dry, straighforward and simple. It is basically AOE2 DE: Definitive Edition. I was hoping someone can top AOE3 decks and gameplay with AOE4. But nope it is shit. Northgaard is x10 times better and it is far less sophisticated from AOE3. Imagine that disappointment comparing AOE4 being worse than Northgaard and not in the league of AOE3 level. I doubt with this crap, AOE2: DE players are going to migrate to AOE4 since the gameplay is the same, if that is their business strategy.
@@muhammadcalvin8281 I haven’t played all Civs and not very familiar with AOE2, English has a upgrade which allows you to gain gold while gathering food around mills, I think most civs still have to find gold, use trade routes or exchange in market
this video is pretty much a reverse of what an AOE2 player needs to know to play AOE3 lol
my thoughts exactly
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haahaah trux same thoughts, wthel is he bloobering about aoe 2
I think what many AOE 3 players should know is that the stone is back
makes sense because people don't use stone anymore in the era of aoe3.
@@sambauman69 stone walls are important to stop raiding since you need siege weapons to damage them they are essential for late game strategy especially if you are a fighting a highly mobile raiding faction like the Chinese or the Mongols
No stone = no Center = low eco = loose
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@@sambauman69 oh yes it is in AOE4 why? well because castles. or you said keeps. what so special. well trebuchetes. and not sure about aoe4 but in aoe2. this building is where the unique comes from. or "champian"
It sucks that you cant train in batches anymore, that was one of the best things about AOE 3
Worst thing* Bcs this mechanick match in multiplayer looks like WW1 fight for any 1 meter ground.
I hate AoE multi bcs this mechanic.
The home city and deck card system was amazing in AoE3
So no more home cities?! That's one pretty important change imo
How many of you Aoe3 fans will go back playing Aoe3? Raise your hands.
If it wasn't going to be crazy expensive I would try it but I don't think I'm gonna buy aoe4. Stick to aoe3 and rocket league lol
@@WhiteVipor Me too.
Kinda lame, for sure I will be playing AOE3.
Big Cons: drop off sites (will suck for hunting)
The biggest con is not having military train in batches.
This game will be all about micromanaging :-(
I’ve played aoe4 quite a bit as an age 3 player and yes it is a ton of micromanaging every buildings so many upgrades that have nothing unique about them.
Even in AoE2 building a mill for for for 4 deer was cost effective (obviously, when they are close to your town center). Even if AoE3 had drop points it would've been better to build a drop point for 100 wood units, because the quantity of animals in most maps it's so huge that you won't end up hunting all of them most of the times.
I couldn’t agree more. I think we all wanted better graphics, more civs, more units and more maps and we’d all have loved AOE 4
AoE IV is a massive disappointment ... its just AoE 2 with "better" graphics. They killed all good things from AoE 3 (card shipments, batch units training, no resource drop off points needed ... ) and made a game paste SLOW and borring. I loved AoE 3 cause you could play several games in an hour. AoE 2 was good on its own, didnt needed any change, so why make AoE 4 thats actually, as I said, AoE 2 with "better" graphics is beyond me. No self respecing AoE 2 player will play this abomination, nor any AoE 3 player will find AoE 4 better than AoE 3.
7 years in making and they come up with this??? How about taking terrain into gighting mechanics ... units going up-hill getting range attack ressitnece reversed (+20 % for example), units shooting downhill getting ranged attack increased, units in wood terrain getting range resistance increased etc. etc. ... so many other thing they could do make it even more strategic game.
Sorry Drongo, but I think I will unsubscribe since you seem to drop AoE 3 for AoE 4 ... hope that works for you.
I doubt Drongo will drop AoE 3, especially since it seems most aoe3 players will stay there, so if he makes videos for both games, he can basically double his audience.
True. Aoe4 neither pleases Aoe2 players and definitely not Aoe3 players.
AOE 2 but worst I fixed it for you lol
He said on twitch he will still play 3
@@CacTuSiFied well a year has passed and I can say no, drongo didn't make any more aoe 3 videos... what a disappointment
Looking forward to aoe5 when they remake aoe3.
Aoe4 is just aoe2?
rip homecity shipments and cool civs
@@srnght yeah the devs have just gone backwards
@@ipogokeys2018 I mean AoE2 seems way more popular so makes sense
@@0nni1998 yeah, but just leave aoe2 to be itself, it didnt need a remake. I find aoe4 just to be a shitter version of aoe3 as it isnt aoe2, but it isnt full on aoe3.
@@checker297 Lol! When Aoe2 definitive edition was announced, I thought it was going to look like aoe4. 😂😂😂
I’m not going to lie… I don’t like AOE 4 it’s pretty much everything I would have not wanted lol
That why I call it AOE II(2).
I hope aoe3 still gets loved after aoe4 release. Honestly will not be buying aoe4 with that price tag and how much it plays like aoe2
@@sowishful same lmao I’m going to stay plying AOE 3. I honestly don’t think we’re going to get a another enjoyable AOE after 3
Yea I waited for this as an AOE3 player... after playing it I might just get the AOE3 DE and keep playing that.
@@sowishful Why would it get love? Microsoft had AoE updated so the AoE4 team could learn about what made a game AoE 15 years after the release of AoE3. I like AoE3 its better than AoE2 but all the DEs were development for AoE4.
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These mechanics in AoE 4 makes a slower game time compared to AoE 3.
But I loved the wonder and sacred site cuz I think it's a very exciting and competitive victory conditions. Especially for the turtle strat.
Unlike AoE 3, turtling players cannot win without destroying their opponent.
I'm not a fan of the slower paced AoE2 style. With all the successful modern RTS (starcraft, etc) fast pacing is key.
Even with a wonder though you cannot pure turtle anymore because the enemy wiill just go for a sacred site victory - which is faster.
They main problem with turtling as well is there is no late game gold income so if you use most of it on upgrades, you wont have many units to fight with.
There are no factories or plantations
AoE2 had trade carts and relics but they dont give you enough to sustain unit production.
The Land mark system also prevents cockroaching. Which makes me sad. But will probably make a lot of players happy.
Once the enemy finds your big land mark buildings, and destroys them, you are out of the game. You won't be able to hide out in a corner of the map with One villager in a FFA match. And slowly rebuild your empire from a single lumber camp.
If they take out the big easily Spotable buildings, you are out.
@@robertkeaney9905 It wont matter as much - even with the Asian civs in AoE3, they age up with landmarks, but if you destroy them it wont send you back in ages.
It will certainly have a big impact on your eco/strategy but you could build up once again as long as you had villagers and a TC.
Cock-roaching is really annoying though because it makes games drag on - which is never fun. This is after all, a game and games are meant to be fun.
Isn’t the wonder victory for a turtle game player though every time I’ve used it is when I’ve been turtling and then mass stone walls
@@graemes8187 Well, I mean, in a 1 v 1 situation I can see how Cock roaching is annoying.
But in FFA games my greatest joy is surviving a massive early raid. To some how sneak off with at least a few villagers. And then slowly build my way back up from the shadows. To become a credible threat by the end of the game.
In AoE IV you automatically lose if all your TC's are down and all of your Land marks are down.
It doesn't matter if you have 20 vills and an archer range hiding at at edge of the map.
Special Important buildings go down, and boom you lose. Which is good because it means you can't just have one dude hiding a single vil behind a cliff.
But it also means you can't have incredible come backs in FFA games. Its a lot more Cut and Dry. Defend your land marks/TC's or you lose.
AOE 4 = AOE2+ModernUI-LessCiv
So basically want all AOE2 players move to AOE4. It will be challenging as AOE2 has 30 Plus civilizations.
That being said AOE3 is solid,fast and more dynamic game compared to AOE2/AOE4.
Yes but the civs play very differently to each other for 2 players. For 3 they don’t change enough
unit micro is very different in aoe2 and aoe4, it's much more complex in aoe2. And the civs are much more different from each other in aoe4 vs aoe2. It's slower than aoe3 but quite a bit faster than aoe2.
That ui puts me off so hard. I dont know what were they thinking making medieval game ui look like stellaris
So, AoE4 is basically AoE2 that got its late game issues sorted out
What i don't like is that you made two points for turtle strategies in this video and i am certain that AoE4 is slower but it seems that it's going to have that much action...
The late game isnt sorted - its the same as AoE2 as i can tell - trash wars past 30 mins.
Trade carts and relic trickles are tiny.
@@graemes8187 i see you haven't built 30 or 40 trade carts from a well placed and defended market. You can get enough gold to keep up unit production. And the neutral markets in Aoe 4 makes it possible to never run out of gold in a 1v1
@@graemes8187 In AOE4, farms now generate gold in addition to the standard food. I think that alleviates the problem of trash units in late game.
@@fupopanda thats only brits
@@graemes8187 yah the games crap like its made in 1998 lol
I'm surprised batch training was not kept from AoE3. The faster pace of AoE3 seems more akin to modern design principles and this game bucks that trend.
Not really surprised considering how strong AoE2 is still going. And that game can still have rounds being over in
aoe2 doesn't have the batch training and is extremely popular.
@@ritwikreddy5670 aoe 2 runs on nostalgia fuel. Batch training is very standard for mordern RTs games. Aoe 3 was ahead of its time.
@@sohamdas7314 I agreee ao3 was so ahead of its time and developed all ideas of the privous installments further, though further doesnt mean better...
@@majormononoke8958 it was better
People need to remember that he is just pointing out differences and don’t form ur entire opinion of the game off only what’s different
After 10 hours of playing, I think this new game is 80% age2+10%graphic improvment+5%AOE3+5%something new. Now I understand why people call it AOE2 2.
Number 7 is basically Relic's signature victory condition . You know about it if you play CoH or DoW series .
Likely so, but I'd like to think them as Ruins from AoE1.
Number 7 was in AoE1 - even the theme of it being ruins you have to cap. Relic probably saw it as a prefect opportunity to bring it back since it's also the sort of victory condition they favor.
@@tulisotilas good point.
@@GepardenK exactly
I really like the mechanics and the similarities to AOE2 but the graphics really turn me off. AOE3 looks so beautiful. Why did they take such a huge step back? I can't be the only one feeling like that.
what, aoe3 had too much glow, too much artificial smoothening and was oversaturated and clumsy to play although it was good to look at. This might be okay to play in campaign mode, but a huge hindrance in competitive play.
aoe2 had no glow, had hard edges everywhere and was too minimalistic and utilitarian. I find aoe4 to be the perfect balance with a slight glow, smooth edges without the artificial jitter, and much more resolving to play than aoe2 while also looking better than aoe3, and mainly much better shadows than aoe3.
You know that most footage comes from a "stress test"
So focus was: can the servers handle the amount of players and not: hey here is our gamd, try it, because it will be like that on release
It's an art style choice not a "step back", there's a difference, plus a game doesn't need to have realistic graphics to be good ,look at age of empires 2 (2013) , it has more players than aoe 3 DE lmao
Aoe3 is a completely different game compared to Aoe4. Aoe4 feels like a slightly updated Aoe2.
Sounds like they took all the annoying features from AOE2 that aoe3 fixed and brought them back. Glad I didn’t preorder
Me too!
so true
They never cared for aoe3 players 😪
The lack of generalized military batch training is a bit heartbreaking. That is going to slow down the game significantly while also increasing the surface area of your base.
No, single units are made 5 times as fast, you will get 5 units in the same time
i have found that i like 3 better than 2 because I have a bit more options with the chosen empire. More buildings, more things I can find on the map, the card deck.
I hope that will still be there.
Each civ is a bit more diverse than they were in Age of Empires 2. They do feel different. And with the landmark system you shape your civ a bit as you go up ages. But there is no card system. So people who liked that about Age of Empire 3 or Wargames (to mention an other game with cards) will be a bit disappointed that the game lacks that.
I think each of the 3 games will have their fans. And I will play each of the game even going forward (Though I wish for a proper remaster of Age of Mythology and Rise of Legend to. I do not think one can even buy a digital copy of RoL :( )
there will be a masteries system that probably allows for some customisation.
aoe2 has much larger player base and targeting them is the most logical choice, aoe4 is a faster aoe2 with some good game mechanics from aoe3 and some improvements.
@@Cythil I bought age 3. I liked it. it had interesting parts. I havn't play any aoe game in a long time. I probably like AOE2 better. over all. its a more microing game. I like the stone and having to build mining camps etc. and training soilders one by one. which I like aoe3 also. multiple units at once. no drop of. it give you a bit more military control. stuff like that. I think the cards are a good feture. and the trading outposts. how you can upgrade to a train etc. and how you can chose 2 different "empires" etc.
@@ritwikreddy5670 well said
I think all AOE3 players have to know is that: AOE4 is basically AOE3 graphics with AOE2 gameplay
So its just aoe2 mechanics with better graphics. Nothing like aoe3. Why does it look so cartoony.
It was made by Relic and not by the usual team, so different art style
As an AOE III player yeah this AOE IV is pretty much like AOE II in terms of mechanics but they did add some AOE III features as you have mentioned in the vid. Missing is the mass military unit training like in AOE III and this game requires you to make 5 or more barracks to make 5+ units unless you rely on the increased unit production speed tech from the civs tech tree. Only nitpick is the units in aoe iv still look slightly cartoony! 🤣
I actually find the style - pretty realistic landscape (i think the lighting overall has improved) + a bit magical effects and characters quite nice.
Looking at the graphics looks like ill be able to play this on my fridge lol
Dont be fooled, its horrendously optimized so far
That's the idea. If you watch or play any of the 4v4s I haven't seen the slightest hiccup in performance with 1600 population out in the game fighting. Spirit of the Law showed off a 4v4 game and it runs buttery smooth.
I was afraid that aoe IV is going to be just like aoe II with minor changes. It seems I wasn't wrong :c
I am still going to play the hell outta this game
Yeah, and I love it. AOE2 is one of the best strategy games of all time. AOE3 was dog shit by comparison... I played it for about 3 hours and HATED IT. I'm loving AOE4 and how to advance into the newer ages. Its a traditional AOE game, and I'm thoroughly enjoying it thus far.
Yes, I don’t like it
@@obiwankenobi785 True. AOE 3 is masterpiece.
@@obiwankenobi785 Aoe 4 will have modding tools which makes me expect their will be a lot of mods some might make it more like Aoe 3. Aoe 3 is my least favorite Aoe game but it's still a really good game
4:35 though it is suspicious, that shortly before IV releases, both II&III get civs with special mills, that in a way boost the gathering rate of farms around them, (even though the specifics are different in the case of II, giving you instead a part of the food, when you build the farm)
Sacred site victory, that is a quite old mechanic from Age of Empires 1.
The projectiles in this game still look like total garbage
This is just what aoe3 players need to know about age 2
No
why nowadays is the fucking Lod in games so bad ? like in 2:40 the threes ??? WHHYYYYYYYY i noticed this in many new "next GEN" games
Tried to play IV went straight back to 3, much more fun to keep playing 3. Age IV looks like league of legends.
I think Aoe2 has just been redesigned. Pretty much the same dark age build order, drop off sites, single unit training ...
Yeah, but they removed all game mechanics pros uses for microing
Housewalling
Quickwalling
Dodging arrows
Hill bonus
Sheepscouting
So im wondering what will replace this micro? If nothing i think the game will be much less exciting from a competetive standpoint, both for players and viewers
@@AttiliusRex I think the asymetric factions is a big change though. Imagine putting a "half price villager" cheap tech in feudal age in aoe2, it would break the entire game balance, whereas in this, its balanced because other civs also get absurd bonuses in very niche areas. You can't dodge arrows or micro as much since units have slight acceleration and dont turn instantly, but there's so many other decision-making things that go into a match. AoE4 I think just moves some stuff away from micro and moves it toward macro. I don't just mean economy, but the general ideas of what to build next or where to go, just because the factions are so different. The civs to me are more akin to the civ differences in something like Company of Heroes, where even though every faction gets a "machine gunner" they all deploy at different rates, have different arcs, suppress at different rates, etc etc.
@@McSniffle yeah, but coh has directionsl cover, targeted abilites like grandes etc to make the combat skillbased and microintensive
Not sure what aoe4 has, or are all battles won before the engagment (eg numbers, counterunits and upgrades)?
@@AttiliusRex Like I said, the CoH aspect of it is only that the civs are more distinct from each other. I don't disagree with you that the game has moved more away from micro and more toward macro and thats fine. I dont believe a game is more competitive-centric if it has more micro, it just changes the nature of the competition. I play fighting games competitively but I dont think thats more or less competitive play than someone playing chess.
@@AttiliusRex I also think so. I'm a big fan of aoe3 but given a choice I would rather play aoe2 than aoe4.
I liked having upgrades in the market, not only did it make it so you had to build it but also it became an easier part to implement in strategy
Melee units should be able to kill siege with melee. Torches are very bugged. Also, attack move needs to attack more units not all target 1 enemy
Back on supreme commander they all will target a separate unit so their is no over kill bullshit
yeah, charging a siege unit with cavalry feels so satisfying in other aoe games, it's a pity that's not in aoe4.
@@TrikeGarage There's a specific command for doing that. But also more generally I rather think SupCom has a level of automation that Age fans would dislike. And Starcraft fans for that matter. TA-based games have optimized automation and planning tools cos they're played at a very distant, strategic level. Fights are much closer in and smaller in AoE.
Remember this is a beta. By this time next year it should be all sorted out.
Pathing is horrible at the moment, if you attack an enemy army you better click on one of the many first roll of the soldiers, otherwise your troops just goes around and try’s to attack that single enemy solider in the middle. IMO AOE3 does a lot better at this, if your troop can’t reach the target they will immediately seek the closest enemy to them.
They really just remade AOE2 better huh welp, I guess AOE3 is going to slowly die again after this :(
Might not be necessarily the case... I was planning to transition to aoe4 from aoe3 but now after trying it, I'm doubting I will.
@Βελισάριος Right?!
@@krispyk277 I hope AOE3 stays alive, I love that game so much. Glad devs are supporting it as much as they are now right now.
Not for me, overall AOE3 is just more dynamic, decks are just cool as it can influence the game
@@obiwankenobi785 On top of that the price is ridiculous for a rehashed version of aoe2.
what I've found from comment section is that aoe2 players love the game and aoe3 players hate the game.
Considering that aoe2 has much larger player base, I think it will be a huge success.
I'm in a large aoe 2 clan and I cannot think of a single member that likes it.
It doesnt have enough playerbase, aoe2 players wont stop playing aoe2, and aoe3 players dont like it so they wont migrate either. Rts are not that popular, so it will be a niche game in a gamepass environment, its too expensive on steam
Both player bases hate it because its too much like the other. Its fine to like your favorite game but really no one would've been happy unless AoE4 was DE deluxe edition or their game. And players saying its not going to get a player base because not a lot of AoE2 and 3 will transfer over I don't think Microsoft had them in mind really because if you played a game for 20 and 15 years respectively you're not going to leave.
Microsoft drew from AoE2 the most because its time tested to be the more played game. I think AoE4 will be a game onto its own what I saw over the weekend were people trying to play AoE2 and AoE3 in AoE4. Microsoft made the definitive editions to give the AoE team exposure to games to make AoE4, but it some people think the DEs were the priority.
@@luisperalesbo If you've player a game for 20 years or 15 years you're not migrating over those are the core people you're talking about.
Take a step back and look at the RTS scene Starcraft 2 AoE2 Warcraft 3 AoE3 and Company of Heroes. Company of Heroes is the newest game coming out 2013. RTS is ripe for a new game. Starcraft 2 by far is the most active, but Blizzard is removing support for it and in a game with three Civs (literally only 6 different match ups) the lack of updates and how fast the games it's going to make it a very stale game. It will keep its core but it won't gain as many new people.
Its a mixed-bag so yeah aoe2 players might think of this as another aoe3 with 3d assets + enhancements.
Am I the only one who dislikes all the icons and buttons in Aoe4? Why does it look like a social media button? It's the same with the changes from Civ 5 to Civ 6, too cartoony, and all the buttons were so... lifeless, soulless, just general social media looking buttons. Ew.
I'm thinking they just aren't made yet and if those are the actual ones mods will easily fix the problem.
I know we havent seen everything yet but the Sacred Site was an interesting thing to figure out! Not to mention it looks like they've possibly done away with treasures on the map? My scout feels like a sheep herder rather than a treasure and enemy finder...I do enjoy the ability to win via 3 options rather than beefiest most advanced = win. It gives us slow, economically incompetent individuals a fighting chance lol.
I think Microsoft is trying to make a big push into competitive RTS, espically since Blizzard is starting to take support away from Starcraft2. They can't have matches that last hours if that's the case.
Treasures like the ones in AOE III? I wasn't aware they added that in AOE IV?
@@JJ-zr6fu Absolutely I agree, it took me an hour+ just to beat the AI enemies during the trial period. Naturally with more strategic enemies and alternatives ways of winning things would move significantly faster. I feel generally overall it is a huge step in the competitive direction and makes it more challenging.
@@gtone339 Right, my point was we arent seeing as many cross overs from III as we are from the previous games. Was more a general acknowledgement than anything else and something minor to most other players anyways.
They announced this game like seven years ago, was really expecting more.
Wut? Where's this seven year old announcement?
@@ArawnOfAnnwn The annoucement is only 4 years old, but there was certainly rumours on it years before I guess.
Hey man, recently found your channel and I can't give enough compliments. I was just wondering if there was a possibility you could apply some timestamps throughout a video like this? Helps viewers who might already know bits of info to jump to a point that is more applicable for them :)
After hours of trying to install it My pc is only 4gb ram so I can’t play. Have fun boys
Hope you can upgrade soon
What machine are you running for god sake.?? Even phones have more RAM these days...
Just imagine 3d reskin for aoe2. It's aoe4
@@tukemies sorry mate not everyone can afford to upgrade to the latest tech 😀
What’s ur pc u can buy used ram on eBay for nothing
Awww yeah, keep pumping up them AoE vidz. I love it.
as age 3 lover getting disappointment, specially with unit creation mechanism.
Trade monopoly seems extra hard in age 4, it was already hard in age 3.people rarely pulled that off.
AoE 4 with shipments & batch unit training would be amazing
Home city cards should only for sending units, crates of food, gold, wood and stones but not for military and economic improvement researchs. All of those techs should be within buliding related to it. Like in Aoe 2.
@@yullegrahardjazh I disagree. The decks/cards add a drastic variety of strategies, that's the beauty of it.
aoe3 were overseas colonies, so shipments make sense, aoe4 and aoe2 are empires and shipments are non sensical in this context, and too many strategies means new players are less likely to stay for long time since it is a lot of work to learn all those.
@@ritwikreddy5670 why? It drastically improves the chances of weaker players winning through some unforeseen twist. It also makes one less dependent on perfect micro, which broadens the spectrum of players. I can come back to AoE3 without spending hours on training my buildorders.
1-3... it's just "it's Age of Empires II".
4... it's Age of Mythology, but you build landmarks to age up.
5... some buildings have area effect buffs, that varies with civ
6... it's back to "it's Age of Empires II"
7... it's "it's Age of Empires I"
Is anything carried over?
All those things are carried over from other Aoe games. Some civs have access to the culverin an anti siege unit cannon. The cannons in Aoe 4 are more powerful similar to Aoe 3. Some warships have aoe 3's broadside mechanic. Units show all the bonus damage they inflict like in aoe 3. Ranged units have a weaker melee attack like in aoe 3. Less more asymmetrical civs like in Aoe 3. All civs have culture specific graphics for units and buildings similar to how aoe 3 had non European factions I'm sure there is more.
I learned a lot about AoE3 from this video XD
I still like AOE2 🤣🤣
Aoe4 is obviously a sequel to aoe2, not aoe3, yet this video makes it look like aoe3 was a succesful sequel to aoe2, which is simply false as even aom:de has more average players than aoe3:de...
Dropoff+techs Aoe 2
one unit per time Aoe2
stone is back
cannon occupy less population（ imperial bombard is 12 in AOE3， but 4 in AOE4？）
more like AOE2 and AOE3=AOE4
Another AOE2 definitive Edition with better graphics?
I like aoe 3 style more but sadly i cant accept its graphics style compared to aoe 4 .
Aoe 4 uave best graphics and physics of movment in the franchise
So far it looks like as far as an upgrade to AOE2, 0 A.D. wins over AOE4. More strategic mechanics, better graphics, open source.
0 AD is good but definitely lacks polish. The game play is clunky and unit routes are poorly designed. I have enjoyed playing it last patch.
The main difference betwenn relic and sacred site victory is that you cannot fortify 3 sites the way you can do to 1 monastery (that was already in your town). So, I really think that sacred site is more related to trade monopoly victory than to relic.
You forget that a port is a drop of point to,
If you're used to *insert mechanic that makes AoE 3 better than AoE 2* you now have to *insert AoE 2 mechanic* 🙄
Yeah I'm sitting this one out...
aoe4 is actually the real aoe3
I don't like how the bows look, they stand out too much.
Not to mention arrows that look like small spears, have terrible animations, weird trajectory, perfect accuracy, no decay etc.
@@jjforcebreaker i really dislike how the arrows look and work. It doesn't make sense that archers should hit units moving diagonally or changing direction with 100% accuracy. And area of effect siege weapons need to damage friendly units as well
i think this game will use a different aproach to age2 players and with they tradition, maybe some will try it, i personally am thinking this game brings all age2 slow pace game style and i think this pretty boring, no explorer, auras, decks, things that give a lot of ideas of build orders, i know is just a beta, but looks like the final game will go in these directions, is cool for who like this style, i'll stay with aoe3de and his much more interesting civs and gameplay
yup I just would like some of the graphic effects and sound improvements be shipped to aoe3
Abbasids don't build landmarks to age up, instead they build wings in house of wisdom to age up.
Here’s a comment to help the channel and constructive criticism lol but this video sucks lol nothing at all important here and there’s actually some big changes that you could have mentioned.
Economic upgrades in the market was always such a fucking bulshit
So its a mixture of AoE 2 and AoM, with small new things. Maybe even tiny bit AoE 1, sacred sites remind me of ruins.
There is also some AOE3 touch.
Thank you comrade. This is valuable advice.
1) It's not as good, 2)it's not as good, 3) it's not as good, 4) it's not as good and most importantly 5) it's not as good.
Is there a late game gold mechanic or is every long game gonna end up as a trash fight like AoE2?
Trading with a neutral market usually located at the center or at the edges of the map.
@ ugh that's never going to sustain big armies.
And also will need half the troops to defend it
@@graemes8187 There are other options but that and relics are the ones in common for all civs.
@ Yeah, disappointed - that was the mechanic in AoE2 and it did nothing.
This game was always gonna be heavily based on AoE2, because of popularity. Oh well.
Relics, trade, and captured sacred sites all give passive gold trickles. It's not much, but still.
Is there a single player campaign in AOE4, or just multiplayer?
Both
Really liked that "list style" format of this video over the more "narrated" ones on this channel! Helpful things to keep in mind transitioning from AOE 3 to AOE 4. Good video!
1. Resource drop off is like AOE2
2. Resource techs are like AOE2
3. Military unit training is like AOE2
4. Ageing up is like AOE3: Asian Dynasties
5. We got a new mechanic!
6. Wonder victory is like AOE2
7. Sacred site victory is kinda like trade monopoly victory from AOE3
@@obiwankenobi785 what it was always clear. Aoe 3 players were actually delusional in what they expected for this game. No shit it’s gonna be more similar to 2 than 3. I’ve put in a dozen hours in this game across both hours and the duo I play with is an aoe2 fanatic so far it seems to be a middle ground game for both playerbases
@@masterdclone2172 that's actually good thing in my opinion they took aspects from both games and treid to cater to what the fans liked in each game... the game isn't even finished yet and people are allready nit picking it lol. " the graphics" says aoe 2 players that play a game with graphics from 20 years ago with crap path finding lol
Since you've played and casted Age of Empires 2, Age of Empires 3 and Age of Empires 4 quite a bit, is there a potential future where you'd do a lengthier video about this topic?
Mainly because you have such a lot of experience in each. Would love to hear your thoughts on what's good, what's bad and what's different.
I love AoE2 but haven't played AoE3 and I've barely touched AoE4.
Does AoE3 still have a place or has AoE4 just replaced it?
Sounds like age of mythology influenced a lot of changes here
Also: no decks.
the wonder victory mechanic was the same in AOE1. An expensive building that tells your opponents when its built and need to destroy within a time frame or you lose.
aoe2 has the same thing.
@@ritwikreddy5670 but all the games on aoe2 are played as "conquest" i.e. destroy enemy.
"Standard" vicotryi.e. Wonder victory is only possible in lobby matches
you call that massive changes? you need a reality check
So they've combined bits from all the age games. Win by wonders, capturing ruins, build landmarks etc
If you play age of mythology this game will be super easy.
This is a really good video not gonna lie
Thanks. Please, do more AoE IV videos!
Check out a channel called Turin. He does a lot of Total War stuff and could probably do a cool collaboration with you talking about different RTS games. He’s a really cool dude, been watching him for years and would love getting to see y’all work together.
If you have only played aoe 3 pathetic 😂
AOE4 is a combination of AOE2, AOE3 and AOM mechanics during the AOE2 time period and civilisations. WHICH I AM DOWN FOR!!
They should make it such that the wonder announcement comes only after one of the players has a wonder fully built
Every time I see his name my brain thinks : ahh you bloody drongo;)
The population will only be 200 if they dont change it on release or add options like 200, 500 etc. I played the beta and I loved everything about aoe4, sounds are realistic sounds cool asf warriors scream when charging etc but i actually thougt the battles would be bigger as shown in trailers
I don’t like how you lose right away when your landmarks are destroyed. That means you can’t make a comeback like other Age games
Haha, in some multiplayer games in aoe3, I remember having like two villagers left. If I was able to find thick enough trees, the map would glitch and I could hide my villagers from the minimap, so the enemy couldn’t see them, even with spies. Probably super annoying, but I was quite young at the time, haha
also, I agree with you on this point
Looking forward to go backward
AOE4 just seems to be an upgraded AOE2, is it just me?
AOE4 sucks, I'm sorry, i was so excited to buy it, almost got the early access, tbh im glad i didn't. I'm very disappointed.
Tldr, the game is aoe2 2.
HOW CAN I GET AOE 4 DEMO PLAY
So... No town guard or people casually walking down the roads?
How do cavalry units attack ? They stop and hit like other age of empires games or they attack like bfme games ?
I played 2, 3 and aom
they did a good job copying aoe2 way more than aoe3 since aoe has a niche tiny community (of which i'm a part) but I can adapt once they fix the little things like shift clicking build; and bugs where certain upgrades don't show up on notification when completed. Finally the dark age into feudal age is a touch slower than aoe3 (aoe3: 3min age up 90sec transition vs aoe4: 3ish min age up 2 min transition).
Nothing beats AOE3 Gameplay. AOE4 is backdated shit with new graphics. I regret buying it, it is expensive shit with such a shit gameplay. Too dry, straighforward and simple. It is basically AOE2 DE: Definitive Edition. I was hoping someone can top AOE3 decks and gameplay with AOE4. But nope it is shit. Northgaard is x10 times better and it is far less sophisticated from AOE3. Imagine that disappointment comparing AOE4 being worse than Northgaard and not in the league of AOE3 level. I doubt with this crap, AOE2: DE players are going to migrate to AOE4 since the gameplay is the same, if that is their business strategy.
What is a wunda?
Not a fellow
Surprise that AoE4 has a lot of common things with AoE3.
Please tell me the mill/plantation exist in AOE4
Its my favourite feature from AOE3 besides training in 5
There is only mill, but functions quite differently
@@MROKJIA is it infinite or not?
@@muhammadcalvin8281 it is
@@MROKJIA oh thank god, what about gold source in the late game? Do we still need to scour the map for another gold source like in AOE2?
@@muhammadcalvin8281 I haven’t played all Civs and not very familiar with AOE2, English has a upgrade which allows you to gain gold while gathering food around mills, I think most civs still have to find gold, use trade routes or exchange in market
Sacred site system is poorly implemented and always benefits rushers.