FU-TONE Floyd Rose Upgrades | MORE TONE? MORE EVERYTHING?
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- Опубліковано 21 лип 2024
- Never tried the FU-Tones stuff before and wanted to check out if it upgrades my Washburn N4 MIJ from 90s. Conclusion? Check it out ;-).
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Timecodes:
- Intro & General info: 0:00
- Before - Distorted Tones: 2:58
- Before - Clean Tones: 4:30
- Installation: 5:56
- After - Distorted Tones: 13:17
- After - Clean Tones: 17:03
- More Distorted Tones: 20:18
- Conclusion: 23:09
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Well Done! Sounds Great!
Thanks man! I already put the same stuff to my EVH Frankenstrat and connected the neck pickup with a push/pull switch (thanks for the tip!) and man, I think the effect (sustain, bottom, top end etc. tone) is even more significant on that guitar than on the N4. Wow!
The brass blocks and titanium floyd parts make a huge difference,I put them on everything I play.
Euge!!! i just did a bunch of upgrades to my floyd 1000...i essentially made it into a floyd 2000!!! not only did i throw in a brass block, the red springs, and trim stop but i also put in titanium saddle blocks and stainless steel saddle screws and intonation screws...absolutely love the results!!! cheers!!!
Cool man! 🤟💪🎼
I was just thinking of doing this on my Kramer. Thanks for showing me the way. Great job Euge.
Go for it! Thanks!
Dude, your playing is great !
Euge this is one of your best videos, a must watch for anyone who owns a guitar with a Floyd that wants to upgrade it!
Thanks man! Really glad go hear this!
I just bought the same upgrades (minus the trem damper) for my Ibanez edge lo pro. I did notice a little bit of spring ring (3 red coated) but it’s definitely quieter than stock. I have yet to tear it apart and install the brass block but now I want to today! Good idea taking a picture for the intonation. Thanks for sharing, brother!
Cool! Thanks!
Euge,
Love the content you put out. Always enjoy your the reviews of gear, and to be honest I just love your playing! Absolutely epic skills and a personality that makes us feel welcome to come along for the ride as you show us what works and what sometimes does not. Subscribed over a year ago after the first video I watched. Thanks for sharing your time and knowledge with all of us. Congrats on your "new" early 90's MIJ N4! I will always regret selling my 1994 USA Padauk N4. It was an amazing guitar but so heavy... over 9 pounds! Paid only $600 USD for it in 1998. One of a long list of guitars that I let get away.
Oh thanks man! Really glad to hear this!
Damn 😎.
Got some great sustain and crisp! Great upgrade and great video!!!
Yeah! Thanks!
Great video Euge , I did the same thing to my EVH Wolfgang special, but I went a little further with the titanium saddle screws and locking nut screws too, Adam also makes these cool magnetic Allen wrench to attach to the back of the headstock, FU Tone makes killer stuff to upgrade your Floyd Rose bridges with and I think everyone should learn how to work on there own guitar.
Thanks! Cool man!
Wow that guitar sounds so much better! I can tell it has way more sustain for sure and tone is way more and open and clear and punchy nice mod too your guitar! Rock on!
Yeah!
The fat brass block is a great upgrade that really will improve the tone and performance of a floyd rose. I have put one of these on all my floyd rose trems. I really like the flutters you can get with the extra weight.
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I just fitted my Kramer 1984 with a heavy brass tremolo claw, noiseless springs and a 1984 Floyd Rose with brass block and D-Tuna. Massive improvement. And it's simple to do these mods yourself.
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Hey Euge! What a difference the upgrades made. Sounds like you engaged an overdrive just by changing parts. I've got a Jackson Soloist I'd like to install these upgrades on. Awesome video my man!
Thanks! Strong recommendation 👌.
Roll on Machine Gun Man!!! Great video. Makes me want to get a few parts. I’ve done a brass bridge upgrade and a separate claw stabilizer. Doing both this time.
As always, you 🤘
Thanks! 🙏🤟
Love it bro!! I just bought a D-Tuna for my new to me used Nuno. Gonna do the same as you and put on Original Floyd Rose on it. Will more than likely add the spring claw and noiseless springs after that.
Cool!
Awesome playing and very good upgrades from FU Tone, I also upgraded my Charvel and EVH guitars with FU Tone parts, very cool and really does change the guitar for the better. 🤘
Thanks!
Looks like you had a blast! And that's the best part of it all. If it sounds better to you, then that's all that matters. I have FU-Tone gear on several guitars. It's well made and in my opinion improves everything. I had a few more guitars to upgrade. Thanks for the videos.
Yeah! Indeed 👌. Thanks man!
Could notice a difference, really enjoy your programs.
🤷😎. Thanks!
Wow, it was super clear to my ears. I put the brass oak. Brass trem stopper and brass string blocks on my schecter reaper and love it even more.
You are a tremendous talent my friend. Oh by the way there is a big difference in the FU Tone and FR branded brass, FU is the best, tried them both
Thanks man! And thanks for the info. Good to know!
I have a guitar that definitely needs that upgrade. Cheers for the video
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I've done 3 of my Floyd Rose guitars with Fu-tone, did all the same parts on all 3. Brass big block, Titanium saddle blocks and Titanium saddle screws. No regrets. The noticeable difference was the same on all 3. Better note clarity, sustain, a little more volume. I kept all 3 floating and still have great results. The guitars are , 1989 Kramer Nightswan, 1996 Hamer Californian and a 2021 Kramer Dave Sabo. Also noticeable tuning stability. Great video, Cheers!
Cool! Thanks man!
Nice taste of Nuno. Very good.
Many thanks!
I like your old Washburn, sounds great now !
It does!
more is more!
Exactly 😎💪.
My favourite tremolo blocks are big brass and stone tone block by stone tone
sounds awesome ;O)
Thanks!
Very nice!!
Thanks!
Great upgrade. Almost sounds like u have a hard-tail bridge now. Tone is deeper and louder. More punchy and less nasally sounding. Seems like more sustain too. Well done!
Yeah! Thanks!
Part of Nuno's sound IS the nasally part, though (much like George Lynch's), but this maintains it wonderfully while also improving the other tonal characteristics around it. 🤘😎
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It sounded noticeably larger after the mods. Cool video!
👌. Thanks!
I can definitely hear the change! I wouldn't say it's night and day, but it isn't minor in any way.
This sort of thing also worked for me on an inexpensive guitar with a classic 6-screw bridge that I used for my lessons. I bought the heaviest, affordable bridge I found (no brand, around 25€ back then), its base plate being already ~0,5 mm thicker than that of the original bridge. The new block alone already was heavier than the whole original bridge. It could definitely be heard, because the tinny nature of the original's sound disappeared: the bass and low mids increased, everything got more even, rounder and slightly louder. But the main difference was the feel for me as a player due to the increased sustain, which in turn I think it translates to the listener through a different execution, since it made me more confident, and as a consequence I became more relaxed with my playing (although I still suck overall 😂).
Cool! Yeah it’s definitely more inspiring and more joyous to play now which hopefully translates also to the listener 😎🎼.
Guitars are not scared. I will bully, beat up, molest my axes from now on. LOL Learn quite a bit today. Thanks for the knowledge!
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Definitely a sound improvement: more open and fuller. But it is just me suspecting the mounting that big block limits the ability to do some “radical” FR pull ups as the block is to close to the body wood? As shown at 11:04 Maybe I am wrong.
Anyway,great video as always!!! 👍
Indeed. Yes it will but not a problem to me since I don’t do that 😎.
Nice block , I am using another brand of Floyd rose tremolo called Sophie 2.92 + by Sophie tremolo which has stabilizer and brass block
Cool!
Highly recommend the brass pick mount system from FU-tone, i installed behind my polymaths in my caparison dellinger, and man that shit makes a huge difference in response and projection and balance sounding, i have them in other models as well.
Pickup mount system, sorry
Cool!
I got their high tension springs because they looked cool and thought "maybe there's not too much difference between Low/Med/High tension", but it turns out they really are hard, ended up only using two and still had to apply a lot of force (or maybe is just the way I setup my guitar). Anyway, great stuff at FU-Tone, will definitely buy something from them again.
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I have the high tension springs in an 84 Kramer Focus 1000 with an OFR and I'm going to take them out. Like you, I have only two in there and it still just doesn't feel right, too tight but too loose at the same time. I also have the big brass block, which I do like and think is worth it.
I'm surprised how much difference that made. There is much more clarity after.
I was too. Indeed 👌.
Pride n glory
I've completely upgraded all my guitars, mostly with FU stuff. Gets pricey, but it's worth it, in my opinion.
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I love FU-tone
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I prefer upgrading the saddles , the fine tuning and the screw on the bridge with titanium material because they would wear off in the future
Dude's accent is awesome. Like a thicker Ola 👍
*quick edit* Your tone seemed to have a bit more biting bottom end that you didn't have prior to switching out the block. I'm not surprised though, by you saying acoustically it was louder (that block was HUGE!)
Thanks 😎. Indeed and it’s much more fun to play ’cos the guitar ”rings” acoustically lot more 👌.
Amazing playing as always man, but as for the tone in the distorted tone can't say it made much of a difference, maybe it sounds a tad brighter but that's pretty much it. No way I would have noticed in a full mix or in a live environment. Now clean sounds is a different thing. I think it sounds better and brighter
Cool, thanks!
I want to try this on an ibanez with basswood body before i purchase a les paul style guitar. Those lps have something going on when you play, resonances, sustain, fuller sounding etc. I hope this fu tone brings the ibanez back to life. What do you think Euge?
upgraded the block on my peavey wolfgang and while i wouldn't say it changed the tone that much, it gave me more sustain and all six strings ring out more evenly. great $45 spent.
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High gain - subtle change but it's there. "After" sounds better. Bolder, more sustain.
Clean - more obvious change. "After" sounds better.
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You wouldn't have had to go through all that if you'd gotten a Kahler. 😁
But seriously, I can't really hear all that much difference in the _tone,_ but I'm sure that the _playability_ issues solved are what made it really worthwhile.
I need _at least_ the "noiseless" springs. I solved the problem of the springs creaking, but they still ring in sympathy with D chords on my guitar.
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In my Suhr Reb Beach I have a big block of FU completely great full sound more sustain the whole guitar sings and you can feel that in the body and neck! just another question about the Suhr reactive Load IR. I don't understand how you get such a good sound with it. I have a Landry LS100G3 a three channel EL34 powered high gain amp with individual gain and volume controls for each channel, with a separate set of tone controls for the clean channel and a shared EQ section for channels 2 and 3. great amp great sound ( Plexi) but as soon as I use it as a home studio with the Suhr reactive IR, the sound is not full, no attack, etc, etc... the feeling is so much different than when you play with a 4x12 or 2x12 inch cab. do you record directly from the Suhr RLoad IR or do you record with a microphone in front of the cab? In terms of pedal I have pretty much the same Boss SD-1 Boss Delay, Valhbruch space Delay etc.. it can't be that. what monitors do you use? Maybe those are the problem? I use KRK Rokit RP 5 G4 monitors. tell me what am i doing wrong?
I haven’t used my Suhr in probably two years. I use mostly my cabs mic’d and sometimes St.Rock’s React IR if I need to record in silence (which I do very rarely 😎). But I got great results with the Suhr also. For example Red Wolf’s ’Sessions Vol. 1’ - album is my JCM800s into Suhr and Jens Bogren’s IRs.
I always tell my signal chain on these videos so please pay more attention ’cos I went through it on this one also 😉.
Before the update on a distortion, the sound is cleaner
Before=less everything. After=more everything 😎
Hi can you tell me which block I should get? I also have N4. it would be great if you could share the dimensions of the block (the actual one that you use/bought)
You need to measure the depth of the cavity and get the one that fits 👌. There’s great videos on FU-tone’s site and YT channel and also about this. Can’t remember what’s mine and can’t measure it now since I’m not at my studio atm. But if I remember correct it’s this one: www.fu-tone.com/product/37mm-brass-l-sustain-block/
Yes I heard the sound open up, much fuller sound a gain in all the frequencies. Next time try a Gotoh bridge. It’s more fuller.
Gotoh > Floyd Rose 1000 and cheaper.
Keep your Japanese guitar Japanese too lol . Seriously though the gotoh trems are hard to beat.
It had a Schaller bridge which is basically the same than Floyd Rose ’cos Floyd worked at Schaller back in the day before founding his own brand 👌😎. I’ve always used Floyds, like them a lot and they do the job 🕺.
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@@EugeValovirta230V I have a vintage Floyd made in the 80’s my Gotoh sounds better, it’s shocking but that’s why EVH preferred them. MusicMan and Peavey guitars have them
Ok damn I might need to try one then. I’ve always used Floyds and have been really happy with the, but I guess there’s always a room for improvement 😎.
Did you take the little plate off the back of the Floyd rose like Adam recommends?
Yes
hey dude i got a question with u being a touring musican on the go what amp plugin would u use for pc and why if u need it to just sound good and if u got ideas
Bogren’s Ampknobs are great and I also like Softube’s Marshalls a lot 👌. They’re really simple like real amps and Bogren stuff even simpler cos they have only one knob; gain 😎.
Mr Euge, there's better alternative to that stopper. It's called ESP arming adjuster. U can still pull and dive but with 100% tuning stability like fixed bridge. U can keep the brightness and the snappiness of the fixed bridge. Richard Z Kruspe from rammstein have it in all his new ESP guitars. Even steve vai use such stabilizer live , in ibanez version. 😊
I have that on one of my guitars but I prefer much more this. I’ve actually adjusted the adjuster as tight as possible so it’s basically like a stopper 😎.
@@EugeValovirta230V gotcha. pitch down with the bar, pitch up with fingers. i love your band songs ☺
Was this your immediate go-to or did you shop around a little bit? I.E. gotoh or original Floyd?
I just happened to have an extra Floyd around and I've always been using using Floyds so no need to change when it works 🙂
Where did you get that T-Shirt?
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Euge, What shelves are you using for your amps man? I need some for mine lol.
The rack (where the 800s are) is my old touring rack custom made by a Finnish company called Transit Case and the shelve is from IKEA but can’t remember the model now 😎👌.
@@EugeValovirta230V could it be the BROR from Ikea?! How you finding them, are the sturdy man? Thanks dude, love your content as always!
Could be! They’re sturdy 💪. Glad to hear! Thanks!
I despise taking apart Floyd's, love em once they are locked but up to that uggg
Ok.
Euge my man….!
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i want to hear the sound of this guitar with bluguitar amp 1 iridium
Ok
Almost every guitar I own has something from F U Tone.
Thank you!
Cool!
I have this installed on my schecter and can honestly say that I hear a small difference on the cleans only. So like a lot of gear, the difference is very subjective to what the individual wants to hear ( unless tested scientifically by measuring the Soundwave length).
My luthier who installed it told me that in his opinion when one puts a trem stopper, there is already a " tone sucker" in place that will negate the brass block difference. Makes sense to me since the stopper has a plastic screw or one will put a felt to absorb the noise from the block hitting the screw when returning from a dive.
But I still think it's a good upgrade because it's priced right!
Just my opinion!
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Watched it a little. Have done some tremolo changes and mods. To me it sounded like the clean tone had some more "highs", So I think it added something on a certain frequency range and usually it's easier to hear it then than on some serious gain =D Nice playing. Have fun.
Nice guitar! Can you tell me the exact body dimensions? Thanx
Thanks! I have no idea but I believe Google might know 😎.
@@EugeValovirta230V I can't find anything.. I think it's too small than a regular strat
Yeah it’s bit smaller than regular strat body.
Euge, did you use the 32mm or 37 mm block?
37 mm
@@EugeValovirta230V ah thx me too 37mm
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That big brass block is what's giving you that sustain. All the other pieces add very small amounts of noticeable tone difference that IMO are not worth the price. Also Floyd Rose sells that brass block for less than FU tone...
Can’t argue with personal opinions 😎.
@@EugeValovirta230V This opinion is only based on personal experience doing these mods. There's a reason why there's very few A/B comparisons with these mods done. And a large majority of the videos about FU tone all end in a big question mark. Much like the title of your video.
👍. I enjoy playing those fiddles more now, I sound better, they do the job better and that’s all that matters I guess. Quite cheap way to improve ones playing and good vibes. At least mine 😎.
@@EugeValovirta230V I did notice the bigger brass block changes something or adds more of something acoustically, but when you plug the guitar in I'm not sure there's more sustain. It would be interesting if someone could measure that.
If it sounds and feels good to the player it sounds and feels good 👌🎼. Trying to measure that? Total waste of time IMO 😎.
Way to go Nuno...Virta. Eheheheheh
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When I look at Floyd I almost get hart attack.So much work to make it work and tune that I hate that process for ever.
To each their own 😎.
N4 don't have Trust rod?
It does. Under the neck joint so you need to take of the neck to adjust it.
@@EugeValovirta230V thanks for your quick answer! great Video btw!
Thanks!
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Only way to set up a floyd in my opinion.
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It seems it got fattened in the midrange. Wich is always good.🤓
Indeed 💪.
man this guitar sounds so thin. les Pauls forever!
Are these components manufactured outside the United States?
Looks strange, you playing a Strat style guitar….
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