I practiced this against AI a few times and now I won my first game with this build against human. Now I'm going to bed to finish my day at a high note. :-) The great part about it was it's simplicity. Very few buildings and one unit. I'm at gold league now, so I'm allowed to make mistakes. But I believe I'll get more precise the way I practice it more. Thanks for the good tutorial. I'll check your other vsX builds too. ^_^
I used to be a diamond Zerg player. Haven't played in 10 years. I remember people using this 4gate against me and I would always rage. I can definitely believe this build being strong even after 10 years of sc2 patches.
@@piotrsykut6999 well there was this Korean pro who used to be one of the best but he had to quite because he had to do his mandatory military service. When he came back after a few years the meta had shifted but he played the exact same as he did before. A style many thought wasn't possible anymore at the highest level of play. So yea the game changes a lot and in 10 years a lot happends but strats like these are so basic and at a strat like this doesn't really change at its core. Maybe stalkers get nerfed just use adepts instead.
just got back into SC2 and it's been hard as shit to find stuff that makes sense lmao so much info at once, this video helped someone as bad as me, thanks man :V gave it a like
Well, I can say, this strategy is definately beatable. None the less, I also climbed from silver to plat, within only 2 days, with this build. I never had a proper build order in my life before. I will have to start learning transitions and proper mid game now. Maybe start with you blink stalker build?! Thank you HuShang!
I’m pretty new but I love to just follow build orders. Pretty much die after getting everything established so I like that this one follows through to the attack. Definitely subbed. Thanks
Dude, i played this build a bit. AND ITS SHREDDING DUDE!!! I played some ranked league placement matches, and i only lost against a Master 3. Thanks dude!
Played the game since the release of WoL, Terran only. Switched to Toss for solo. Had no idea where to start. I take my hat off to you sir, this is pretty amazing. Feels like a breath of fresh air to try new races, thanks to you.
i really like it. i just started playing sc2 and i m allready winning a couple games here and there with it. sometimes it fails horribly but thats okay lol. what i really like how expandable this strat is. like the one in the video is pretty much just the early core strat but its so easy to just add a couple more buildings or add a couple more gates , warp in some different units and adapt a little. i m not forced to go stalkers.
I don’t think it was known about at this time but triggers 4 gate hits a lot harder. It involves proxying your 2nd pylon and building a proxy 3rd gateway before the 2 stalkers. And then you build another proxy pylon and proxy 4th gate after stalkers 3,4,5. You use 1 chrono on probes and 2 on warp gate.
Interesting that trigger is proxying 2 gates instead of 1. I like that you included the timing of 4th gate. Makes sense since WG finishes after the 2nd round of stalkers
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I just want to say.....I just used this build and wow it’s surprisingly easy but also situational. Good for players going for an early second base or turtling it seems...so thank you!
Thank you very much for this build order. It's the same beginner build order I used last time. I haven't played Starcraft 2 for more than five years now and startet it again yesterday. Until now I won two out of three placement matches. Even though it's very simple, it makes it easy for me to get used to the game once again.
Wow been outta the game for a couple years and was looking for some help getting back into it. Incredible info. Clear, concise and professional. Well done. Looking forward to more videos in the future.
This is amazing, I practiced until I could beat the highest AI difficulty. Thank you kindly for helping me get started. Now I'm looking at your other videos for a new build to master.
I started from Silver Tier 3, and *only using this build* I've recently hit Diamond! So yeah this build order is kinda insane You climb the ladder very quickly Update - I didn't learn the basics & now I have to derank myself so I can match with players of my calliber *DO NOT MAKE THIS YOUR FIRST BUILD, LEARN SOME BASICS FIRST* (Deranking from Diamond 3 Rank 2 to Bronze is very painful .....)
Here it is... 2024... I've been playing since OG SC and I've always sucked. I've accepted I have always sucked, and really just play for fun. I main Zerg (Which is only like... Silver 2). I watched this video and went instant unstoppable. I was shocked. It's almost broken it seems. thanks for the old, yet still relevant video :).
Just started playing SC2 again. Took a little bit to get the hang of the timing of this build, but it stomps when you get it right. Sometimes 12 pool lings will leak into the main before the stalkers pop, but if you keep a probe ready to full wall with a shield battery you should be safe ;3
I’m actually curious how far you can get with this. PvZ would probably get hard quickly as when Zerg scouts no wall on the low ground then they’ll freak out haha. I gotta test it one day.
@@jellybean6902 Nexus, Robo and Council, Blink + charge, create 3-4 inmortals, 6 min create 3rd nexus, 2 forge atk+def, create disruptors, 4th base at 8:30 if you can. Then it's all based on the context. Make sure to create batteries or canons in your base just in case of invisible units/ships/drops.
After 6 years finally came back to sc2 again. I practiced a lot against Elite AI and now started using it in ranked placement games. So far, if your opponent just plays a regular game, you can beat him no problem. I'm probably not that good yet, but I found it really frustrating to play against Terran proxy marine rush.
Good build.However,we can have same 8 stalkers at 3:40, but with second base. Just need to hide second pylon in the middle of the map. And install there proxy gate. And we have only 3 gates. 4 stalkers from 2 gates from home base,and 5th from proxy. After warp is ready just make warp of 3 stalkers in proxy. After install 2nd base and pylon. Also easy. And 2nd base.
Sure! Come hang out with us on discord as well :) Some basic things to start learning as a beginner are utilizing your keyboard shortcuts/hotkeys, spending your money, starting to add units and buildings to control groups etc...
14pylon 16gate 17gas 18gas 19gate 20cyber 21pylon train 2 stalker 1 probe to enemy base 31gate x2 build pylon on enemy base train another 2 stalker initiate 4 stalker warp in 4 stalker attack (research warp in as long as cyber is finish constructed)
Thanks! I’m gonna keep practicing till i get my time to a perfect 3:30 8 stalker. Right now i’m still losing games just coz i dont remember the build order or i fked up somehow delaying he charge
So as a Terran player, I scout one base, 2 gate, 2 gas 2 pylons and Core at 1:40. I build my CC on the high ground, get my Factory and a couple bunkers and go into Marine Tank Lib to hold this? I should have about 1 Tank and 7 Marines at 4:00, and then 2 Tanks at 4:10.
1st Your tutorials are amazing. Well made. 2nd I've played that opening and won 14 outta 16 games. This destroyed 100% of my PvP opponents. (I'm new and new to RTS. Won vs 3 different plat players) Had more problems with terrans tho. Since most of them that scouted just slapped down a wall and a siege tank at the front door. I could delay second base but couldn't finnish it there. What should I do? 3rd With what would you follow after that? (second base and Archon+zealots+immortal?)
haha awesome dude! great job! This build is pretty 'all in' so you need to win with the attack right away. If they have a second base you should ignore it and go straight to the ramp. If they end up defending then you are in a very bad position. There's usually no follow up but you could try archon zealot or colossus.
Hi, I want to ask, would it be better if i proxied my second pylon and built my 3rd and 4th gate across the map instead? That way the warp ins would be faster during the attack.
No, because it's very obvious you're proxying to high level players. You can do it below diamond/masters though and people probably won't notice and then it'll be faster. Against GM's it won't work for sure
Hi, I had a quick question. I tried this build out and it worked great against protoss and terran, but whenever I played against Zerg it always felt like they had so much more firepower than me and were able to defeat my 12 stalkers. I am super new to the game, so instead of the 3:30 time you suggested for warping in the stalkers mine was more of a 3:45. Not sure whether that small time difference is the reason I'm not able to pull this off, or if there is something else. Please do let me know!
Yeah, it does tend to be a lot weaker against zerg specifically. What MMR rating are you at now? If you're fairly close to the optimal warp in time already then you can probably move on to a macro build. The main goal here is to get you to realize how precise you want to be for more long term orientated builds and... it sounds like you've almost mastered that already :)
@@HuShang I played the game a little bit a few years ago on an old account on which I forgot the password. Recently, I've been playing for less than a week, and I still haven't unlocked the 1v1 ranked mode yet, so the MMR is probably bronze/silver players, not too sure. Edit: I played like 10 games of this build order, and I crushed all of the terran and protoss players, but I played against zerg twice and lost both games.
@@HuShang Sorry for the newbie question, but is there a site where you can see players' profiles, similar to League's op.gg? Edit: Ah nevermind, I found out about rankedftw.com. The last guy I played against had an MMR of around 2000.
I try this build still trying and prefekt it but what if they build Fall do you just go into a normal game then or are there no comming back ? And i love you videos by the Way 🙂
Its pretty all in. Once you master the build + hotkeys + camera locations + basic mechanics then go learn one of the more macro focussed build orders :)
1) Cntrl + left click to select same type on screen 2) cntrl + # to create new group ie) cntrl + 2 OR shift + # to ADD to already created control group Let me know if that helps or not :)
Good stuff. Thanks for the video. Ifyour opponent defends the first wave, would you build another gate at your proxy pylon and continue warping in? Or would you add a robo as well?
So I stopped playing SC2 during the HoTS Beta. The other day I reinstalled because I was feeling nostalgic. I get on YT to see some new strats you know? It's been quite a few years after all. Ladies and gentlemen this is the 4 gate. Has nothing changed? Lmao
I'll have to give it a try! Question, there's already a default hotkey to select all warp gates (Y I think), is there any benefit to manually setting them to a control group? I just finished my placement matches today after playing ai matches for 10 days and got put in gold 3 for some reason...kinda struggling there since I'm still getting used to hot keys and especially control groups.
I started playing before that was introduced so im just used to it. It is beneficial to have the gates on a key prior to warp gate so you can make units while looking at something else. Don't worry about getting placed gold, the game will keep trying to find your correct mmr. If you want there's a leave league feature. It doesn't change your hidden rating but it will change your league placement which can be nice so you can get promoted later on when you improve :)
trying this build but even if i have all the timings correct i can't have those eight stalkers before average six minutes and a half. idk what to improve
So does the other problem when I fight terrains and there’s a lot of them. I always get attacked by the marauders right away. Your strategy is OK if you don’t get attacked early but when I play, I get attacked early at the two minute mark consistently.
This opening gets more units than standard builds that are able to defend early rushes. One step you could take to be extra safe is send an early scout to your opponents base to see if they built their production buildings at home or on your side of the map. If you need some help post your replay in the discord channel to get some feedback. We would love to have ya in there :)
I'm still working on getting a consistent 3:30 - 3:40, but for now if my attack fails, should I try to get a late second base and play out the game or just surrender and go next?
You can expand as long as they aren't already on 2 bases. If they're on 2 bases + they have a bigger army by killing yours then you can GG. It might also speed up the process if you come hang out with us on discord and ask for some tips from other players. There are lots of diamond/masters that can give you a few pointers :)
Thanks for this. For a newb it’s been good, watched a lot of your videos and they are pretty advanced shit. What I’d love to see if how you transition into a 2nd Nexus or plan B if they manage to counter this rush? Thanks legend
Normally if you commit really heavily to something like this attack, you can't transition. Check out the other beginner protoss build for something a little more macro focussed :) Glad you're enjoying the content dude. Feel free to come join us on discord as well
Will this still work if you scout with the probe that made the first gateway? Unfortunately you never said anything about scouting yourself. Died to a 12 pool because of it :P
I am following this guide to a t and I am at 2:30 every game and my cybernetics core isnt even up, so I cannot get the stalkers being made by the 2:00 mark
Not sure if someone is still here, but I have a few noob questions: is this really SC2, because the build menu looks like the old one. What map is this? The build time of my pylons is at least 22 seconds, while normally in your video it is 18 seconds (normal speed). Why is mine different?
You're not completely safe with this build against Protoss. You can get cannon rushed at 1:30 minutes in and you won't have an effective response. Still works pretty well.
![Starcraft 2: EASY Beginner Protoss Build Order Tutorial vs Terran [2021]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/XvRoGf3SXRo/mqdefault.jpg)
![Starcraft 2: EASY Beginner Protoss Build Order Tutorial vs Terran [2021]](/img/tr.png)
I practiced this against AI a few times and now I won my first game with this build against human. Now I'm going to bed to finish my day at a high note. :-) The great part about it was it's simplicity. Very few buildings and one unit. I'm at gold league now, so I'm allowed to make mistakes. But I believe I'll get more precise the way I practice it more. Thanks for the good tutorial. I'll check your other vsX builds too. ^_^
I used to be a diamond Zerg player. Haven't played in 10 years. I remember people using this 4gate against me and I would always rage. I can definitely believe this build being strong even after 10 years of sc2 patches.
i really don't know what to think about the fact that builds that were played 10 years ago are still viable lol
@@piotrsykut6999 well there was this Korean pro who used to be one of the best but he had to quite because he had to do his mandatory military service. When he came back after a few years the meta had shifted but he played the exact same as he did before. A style many thought wasn't possible anymore at the highest level of play. So yea the game changes a lot and in 10 years a lot happends but strats like these are so basic and at a strat like this doesn't really change at its core. Maybe stalkers get nerfed just use adepts instead.
@@piotrsykut6999 terrain literally hasn't changed at all. 2 rax, 1/1/1 where staples in wings.
@@piotrsykut6999 I like that 4gate is still a thing after coming back what feels like a decade and a half later
@@luukvankrugten7253 that's probably herO
14 Pylon
16 Gate
17 Gas
18 Gas
19 Gate
20 Cyber
21 Pylon
23 Stalker x2 + Warp Gate Crono
27 Stalker x2
31 Gate x2 + Pylon Proxy
3:20 Send stalkers toward enemy base
3:30 Warp Stalker x4
3:35 Pylon
3:55 Warp Stalker x4
Then my favorite part
Wait for noobs to rage quit :D
Thanks for the build order note
Ok, I guess I start my pylon too soon (13)
Yeah, all the crap they write, even though they do not know you :)
So one base. No forge and no twilight.
just got back into SC2 and it's been hard as shit to find stuff that makes sense lmao so much info at once, this video helped someone as bad as me, thanks man :V gave it a like
Hushang taught me this build and I went from Silver2 to Plat2 within a week!
Well, I can say, this strategy is definately beatable. None the less, I also climbed from silver to plat, within only 2 days, with this build. I never had a proper build order in my life before. I will have to start learning transitions and proper mid game now. Maybe start with you blink stalker build?!
Thank you HuShang!
Update. +1 hour gameplay. I am plat 1 now from plat 3.
lol sick dood! keep it up
I’m pretty new but I love to just follow build orders. Pretty much die after getting everything established so I like that this one follows through to the attack.
Definitely subbed. Thanks
Dude, i played this build a bit. AND ITS SHREDDING DUDE!!! I played some ranked league placement matches, and i only lost against a Master 3. Thanks dude!
One of the best strategies I've used to reach diamond in 2017 and still works
Played the game since the release of WoL, Terran only. Switched to Toss for solo. Had no idea where to start. I take my hat off to you sir, this is pretty amazing. Feels like a breath of fresh air to try new races, thanks to you.
i really like it. i just started playing sc2 and i m allready winning a couple games here and there with it. sometimes it fails horribly but thats okay lol. what i really like how expandable this strat is. like the one in the video is pretty much just the early core strat but its so easy to just add a couple more buildings or add a couple more gates , warp in some different units and adapt a little. i m not forced to go stalkers.
Yes. This is the build I started with in wol. It's perfect guys.
The musical background is so cool and relaxing 😊
Been looking for good non-copyright stuff for a while :) glad you like it
I don’t think it was known about at this time but triggers 4 gate hits a lot harder. It involves proxying your 2nd pylon and building a proxy 3rd gateway before the 2 stalkers. And then you build another proxy pylon and proxy 4th gate after stalkers 3,4,5. You use 1 chrono on probes and 2 on warp gate.
Interesting that trigger is proxying 2 gates instead of 1. I like that you included the timing of 4th gate. Makes sense since WG finishes after the 2nd round of stalkers
Your tutorials are great man, thanks a lot!!
Really good for new players and ´players coming back, I feel like other guides skit 80% of whats hard for new players and you talk about everyting wp!
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Thanks for this, played this against my mate who loves to Zerg rush, he was stuned how fast I have 8 stalkers
Awesome video man!! Im getting back into SC2 after not playing for like 6 years, so this is definitely helpful. Thanks!!
Glad to hear it!
Thank you so much im Gold 2 and lost so many fights to rushes now i am the one rushing :DD
Thanks for sharing all of this man, your videos are a real treasure!
I just want to say.....I just used this build and wow it’s surprisingly easy but also situational. Good for players going for an early second base or turtling it seems...so thank you!
Glad you liked it. We'd love to have you join the discord community if youre interested :)
Link in the pinned comment
Thank you very much for this build order. It's the same beginner build order I used last time. I haven't played Starcraft 2 for more than five years now and startet it again yesterday. Until now I won two out of three placement matches. Even though it's very simple, it makes it easy for me to get used to the game once again.
welcome back :)
FINALLY someone explains how the supply thingy works! haha thanks for that!
You bet!
Wow been outta the game for a couple years and was looking for some help getting back into it. Incredible info. Clear, concise and professional. Well done. Looking forward to more videos in the future.
Welcome back :)
This is amazing, I practiced until I could beat the highest AI difficulty. Thank you kindly for helping me get started. Now I'm looking at your other videos for a new build to master.
Thank you sensei Chang :) Keep uploading videos pls! xD
Don't worry, they're coming :)
I started from Silver Tier 3, and *only using this build* I've recently hit Diamond!
So yeah this build order is kinda insane
You climb the ladder very quickly
Update - I didn't learn the basics & now I have to derank myself so I can match with players of my calliber
*DO NOT MAKE THIS YOUR FIRST BUILD, LEARN SOME BASICS FIRST*
(Deranking from Diamond 3 Rank 2 to Bronze is very painful .....)
You can also play unranked to try for more of a macro game
actually amazing video. Always comment for that algorithm too
You're the best!
Here it is... 2024... I've been playing since OG SC and I've always sucked. I've accepted I have always sucked, and really just play for fun. I main Zerg (Which is only like... Silver 2). I watched this video and went instant unstoppable. I was shocked. It's almost broken it seems. thanks for the old, yet still relevant video :).
Between you and Pig I might get pretty good at this game. Good vid!
4 gated a toss for my promotion match to diamond and it worked =)
am I the only one who paused the video at 7:44 to check discord, but after continuing the video realizing you did not get the message?
Woops! Such an amateur youtuber 😂
Protoss is more my secondary, but I'm watching to show some love. I'm sure your channel will start picking up some traction before long
Thanks for this build, still works great. Haven't lost a game since using it in bronze lol
I just beat up AI ass from very easy to medium in no time with this strat! Thank you very much!
Love your vids man. Always super helpful.
Going to keep making them :) glad youre enjoying
Just started playing SC2 again. Took a little bit to get the hang of the timing of this build, but it stomps when you get it right. Sometimes 12 pool lings will leak into the main before the stalkers pop, but if you keep a probe ready to full wall with a shield battery you should be safe ;3
Welcome back :)
@@HuShang thanks for making the return easy hah :) great tutorials & content all around
I am not so good at early game harassment so this will be a good practice.
Nice vid! Thanks for the detailed tutorial
No problem!
great detail man thanks for the vid
I’m actually curious how far you can get with this. PvZ would probably get hard quickly as when Zerg scouts no wall on the low ground then they’ll freak out haha. I gotta test it one day.
platinum :) (diamond if I do it and make some adjustments like zealot/sentry in pvz), (GM if you only do it in pvp)
Well, yeah, with GM mechanics haha
@@Kriogenic_PixelMan Are you below platinum? Many of my students have gotten to platinum with this
Nah, I'm D2, I was just thinking. Hard stuck in D2 tho
put a replay in the discord and ill go over it ;)
Thank you for the tutorial, is it possible if you can make a video about transitioning into mid game
@@jellybean6902 Nexus, Robo and Council, Blink + charge, create 3-4 inmortals, 6 min create 3rd nexus, 2 forge atk+def, create disruptors, 4th base at 8:30 if you can. Then it's all based on the context. Make sure to create batteries or canons in your base just in case of invisible units/ships/drops.
great video! i havent played protoss in a while i will try this out, thanks!
Hope you enjoy!
cool rh pfp
After 6 years finally came back to sc2 again. I practiced a lot against Elite AI and now started using it in ranked placement games. So far, if your opponent just plays a regular game, you can beat him no problem. I'm probably not that good yet, but I found it really frustrating to play against Terran proxy marine rush.
I would like to make a guide on that in the near future
Great tutorial, include subtitle thanks
Thanks so much! I'll try it!
Never mind. This is pretty horrible for a newb. It's too easy for opponents to mess with.
Nah, its the best build for a newb
This is awesome! Does it still work in 2023? And how come stalkers instead of Adepts? Cheers.
Good build.However,we can have same 8 stalkers at 3:40, but with second base. Just need to hide second pylon in the middle of the map. And install there proxy gate. And we have only 3 gates. 4 stalkers from 2 gates from home base,and 5th from proxy. After warp is ready just make warp of 3 stalkers in proxy. After install 2nd base and pylon. Also easy. And 2nd base.
10 stalkers are a critical number because they 1 shot a stalker
Yap,just make next warp! And thats it👍
@@TyRaeL. no, its too late to win the game at that point. Its a different build
yo thanks man. just started sc2
Nice gotta try it out. GG!
Your discord notification had me trippin lol. I was checking for discord on my work laptop, took me a min before realizing what happened lol
Yeah sry lol, this video been getting people since i put it up 😂
Imo, this is the best build in PvP at any rank. For non mirror matchup, better learn more macro builds.
The Discord noise got me xD
woops! lol
10:10 isn’t W a default bind to select your warp gates which makes the control group with the warps useless or am I wrong?
you're correct
Love this.
Reach masters with this build
Did you? That's pretty impressive
thanks, it's doing well in D3
Hi and thanks
So I could use this while learning "the basics of the game"
Can you elaborate on this?
Thanks again
Sure! Come hang out with us on discord as well :)
Some basic things to start learning as a beginner are utilizing your keyboard shortcuts/hotkeys, spending your money, starting to add units and buildings to control groups etc...
14pylon
16gate
17gas
18gas
19gate
20cyber
21pylon
train 2 stalker
1 probe to enemy base
31gate x2
build pylon on enemy base
train another 2 stalker
initiate 4 stalker
warp in 4 stalker
attack
(research warp in as long as cyber is finish constructed)
Do you have a video on what to transition to after this in the event you dont win early? Esp if you are playing 2v2 or 3v3
There is no transition in most cases, this build is pretty all in. I have some other builds on the channel that are more macro orientated
Thanks! I’m gonna keep practicing till i get my time to a perfect 3:30 8 stalker. Right now i’m still losing games just coz i dont remember the build order or i fked up somehow delaying he charge
Thanks for the build! Really powerful!
Are you planning in making another pvx build with a fast attack like this for in plat+
Could do :)
@@HuShang Would really be helpful and awesome!
@@user-jn1kh8oe2d there aren't really any pvx builds at higher leagues, but I can do one for each in the future
@@HuShang Okay thanks! Im currently practicing zuka's bronze to master all in, do you think it is suitable to get atleast platinum with it?
@@HuShang And just so you know this is a really good build! Ive won a lot of matches with it. Its just that it doesnt work im pvt for me anymore
So as a Terran player, I scout one base, 2 gate, 2 gas 2 pylons and Core at 1:40. I build my CC on the high ground, get my Factory and a couple bunkers and go into Marine Tank Lib to hold this? I should have about 1 Tank and 7 Marines at 4:00, and then 2 Tanks at 4:10.
Yep sounds good
Damn son
Is 3:30 warp and pre 4 minute attack still possible with this build?
Yep its up to date
For new viewers who will see this question: up to date. Warp at 3:25
Really good video but what if the enemy also does this?
Which build would I continue to if it fails for some dumb reason?
You can expand but only if your opponent doesn't have a 2nd base. If they have a 2nd base + it fails, you can GG
1st Your tutorials are amazing. Well made.
2nd I've played that opening and won 14 outta 16 games. This destroyed 100% of my PvP opponents. (I'm new and new to RTS. Won vs 3 different plat players)
Had more problems with terrans tho. Since most of them that scouted just slapped down a wall and a siege tank at the front door. I could delay second base but couldn't finnish it there. What should I do?
3rd With what would you follow after that? (second base and Archon+zealots+immortal?)
haha awesome dude! great job!
This build is pretty 'all in' so you need to win with the attack right away. If they have a second base you should ignore it and go straight to the ramp. If they end up defending then you are in a very bad position. There's usually no follow up but you could try archon zealot or colossus.
Im going to be honnest. That build was so good that Im now playing vs diamond/master player and Im getting fucked😂
Pascal Desjardins haha!! Suffering from success!
I just played my first match with this against Elite AI,
Bless you HuShang this is dirty. 6 min victory.
Hi, I want to ask, would it be better if i proxied my second pylon and built my 3rd and 4th gate across the map instead? That way the warp ins would be faster during the attack.
No, because it's very obvious you're proxying to high level players. You can do it below diamond/masters though and people probably won't notice and then it'll be faster. Against GM's it won't work for sure
Hey man can you provide write up of this build? Would be easier to learn :) Great job
lotv.spawningtool.com/build/132734/
does this work on 3v3 or 4v4?
Hi, I had a quick question. I tried this build out and it worked great against protoss and terran, but whenever I played against Zerg it always felt like they had so much more firepower than me and were able to defeat my 12 stalkers. I am super new to the game, so instead of the 3:30 time you suggested for warping in the stalkers mine was more of a 3:45. Not sure whether that small time difference is the reason I'm not able to pull this off, or if there is something else. Please do let me know!
Yeah, it does tend to be a lot weaker against zerg specifically. What MMR rating are you at now? If you're fairly close to the optimal warp in time already then you can probably move on to a macro build. The main goal here is to get you to realize how precise you want to be for more long term orientated builds and... it sounds like you've almost mastered that
already :)
@@HuShang I played the game a little bit a few years ago on an old account on which I forgot the password. Recently, I've been playing for less than a week, and I still haven't unlocked the 1v1 ranked mode yet, so the MMR is probably bronze/silver players, not too sure.
Edit: I played like 10 games of this build order, and I crushed all of the terran and protoss players, but I played against zerg twice and lost both games.
@@rohitseshadri6166 Okay gotcha. You can get a rough idea by checking the MMR of your opponents
@@HuShang Sorry for the newbie question, but is there a site where you can see players' profiles, similar to League's op.gg?
Edit: Ah nevermind, I found out about rankedftw.com. The last guy I played against had an MMR of around 2000.
I like your sim city.
Thanks :). Helps a lot to save time if you keep your base clean
This works really well, but what do you do if a player walls off with cannons?
Main base or natural?
I try this build still trying and prefekt it but what if they build Fall do you just go into a normal game then or are there no comming back ? And i love you videos by the Way 🙂
Its pretty all in. Once you master the build + hotkeys + camera locations + basic mechanics then go learn one of the more macro focussed build orders :)
Okay cool and thanks for the Quick responds 😊
i still cant figure out how to put those 4 gates on a control group?
1) Cntrl + left click to select same type on screen
2) cntrl + # to create new group ie) cntrl + 2 OR shift + # to ADD to already created control group
Let me know if that helps or not :)
@@HuShang Thanks!
Do you plan on uploading replay of this by any chance?
Ill drop it in the discord soon
HuShang Tutorials awesome tyty
How do you put 4 gates on a control group?
Good stuff. Thanks for the video. Ifyour opponent defends the first wave, would you build another gate at your proxy pylon and continue warping in? Or would you add a robo as well?
You likely lose :p. Its very all in!
But if I had to answer i would build some sentries and expand and probe up while containing
No way to get attacked? What about reaper scout? Or is the timing in the Toss favor?
I'm new enough to need to ask xD
Should be fine at the beginner levels as long as you time your buildings correctly.
Does it work against zerg?
So I stopped playing SC2 during the HoTS Beta. The other day I reinstalled because I was feeling nostalgic. I get on YT to see some new strats you know? It's been quite a few years after all. Ladies and gentlemen this is the 4 gate. Has nothing changed? Lmao
I'll have to give it a try! Question, there's already a default hotkey to select all warp gates (Y I think), is there any benefit to manually setting them to a control group? I just finished my placement matches today after playing ai matches for 10 days and got put in gold 3 for some reason...kinda struggling there since I'm still getting used to hot keys and especially control groups.
I started playing before that was introduced so im just used to it. It is beneficial to have the gates on a key prior to warp gate so you can make units while looking at something else. Don't worry about getting placed gold, the game will keep trying to find your correct mmr. If you want there's a leave league feature. It doesn't change your hidden rating but it will change your league placement which can be nice so you can get promoted later on when you improve :)
Man I had a guy blitz me with his freaking probes!!!
trying this build but even if i have all the timings correct i can't have those eight stalkers before average six minutes and a half. idk what to improve
So does the other problem when I fight terrains and there’s a lot of them. I always get attacked by the marauders right away. Your strategy is OK if you don’t get attacked early but when I play, I get attacked early at the two minute mark consistently.
This opening gets more units than standard builds that are able to defend early rushes. One step you could take to be extra safe is send an early scout to your opponents base to see if they built their production buildings at home or on your side of the map. If you need some help post your replay in the discord channel to get some feedback. We would love to have ya in there :)
I'm still working on getting a consistent 3:30 - 3:40, but for now if my attack fails, should I try to get a late second base and play out the game or just surrender and go next?
You can expand as long as they aren't already on 2 bases. If they're on 2 bases + they have a bigger army by killing yours then you can GG.
It might also speed up the process if you come hang out with us on discord and ask for some tips from other players. There are lots of diamond/masters that can give you a few pointers :)
@@HuShang Wow! Thanks for such a quick response! I'll stop by
what do I do if the initial attack fails?
Does this work against a rush attack, like a marine rush or a 12 pool, do you not scout with this build at all?
Not without scouting
Thanks for this. For a newb it’s been good, watched a lot of your videos and they are pretty advanced shit. What I’d love to see if how you transition into a 2nd Nexus or plan B if they manage to counter this rush? Thanks legend
Normally if you commit really heavily to something like this attack, you can't transition. Check out the other beginner protoss build for something a little more macro focussed :) Glad you're enjoying the content dude. Feel free to come join us on discord as well
So how do you refute this all-in attack if it’s played against you?
Go check out my video holding all ins in pvp vs my students
Is there a list we can grab that show every step?
lotv.spawningtool.com/build/132734/
Will this still work if you scout with the probe that made the first gateway? Unfortunately you never said anything about scouting yourself. Died to a 12 pool because of it :P
I am following this guide to a t and I am at 2:30 every game and my cybernetics core isnt even up, so I cannot get the stalkers being made by the 2:00 mark
Get in the discord and drop your replay in the analysis so we can figure it out :)
what was the point of upgrading to warp gates if you're teaming up anyway?
Not sure what you mean exactly. Its faster to attack right? Otherwise they'd have to walk across the whole map
in 2:06 Reaper come to your base and detroy your probes i think the first stalker should be chronoboost vs terran
2:06 is too early for a reaper. Your opponent proxied their barracks(placed it on your side of the map).
@@HuShang maybe, btw i try this build order and i got 80% win ratio on this thx
How i can defend this?
7:36 lol i got jebaited by the ping
Not sure if someone is still here, but I have a few noob questions: is this really SC2, because the build menu looks like the old one. What map is this? The build time of my pylons is at least 22 seconds, while normally in your video it is 18 seconds (normal speed). Why is mine different?
The game is normally played on faster and not normal speed lol. They changed it from the beta but didnt rename them
No need for a control group on warp gates, just press W and it will select every warp gate you have.
There are some advantages to hotkeying it on a control group, but it's mostly a habit from playing this game before that key was available
You're not completely safe with this build against Protoss. You can get cannon rushed at 1:30 minutes in and you won't have an effective response. Still works pretty well.
This build is criminally strong on low level. It's hard not to call this cheese.
Definitely cheese haha! Good cheese to help you build basic mechanics though