My Best Protoss Build EVER - No Warp Gate to GM #2

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  • @piotrek7628
    @piotrek7628 2 місяці тому +80

    That Oracle is an MVP. Carried the whole game. Deserves a promotion to admiral and reassignment Carrier. And survived till the end 💪😎

  • @SCoraccioIV
    @SCoraccioIV 2 місяці тому +34

    Frankly, who let this man cook up potentially an even more oppressive protoss

  • @sinner5452
    @sinner5452 2 місяці тому +49

    Part of that insane supply count is coz your units being trained in gates instead of being warped, so they stay inside the gates for another 30 seconds but already counted.
    Anyway, great games! I didnt realised how i was addicted to your daily uploads :(

    • @IamHopers
      @IamHopers 2 місяці тому

      Doesn't make any difference. When you warp, it also counts the supply in the exact same moment. When you have 100 minerals and click on zealot.
      The insane supply is because he's focused on making units non stop. Just that. warping or not makes no difference.

    • @sinner5452
      @sinner5452 2 місяці тому +2

      @@IamHopers subtract warping time from training time. That would be a time where your supply is ahead of actual units you control, compared to warp gates case. Ofc you need to actually build these units, therefore i said "part of".

  • @Yumari-Mai
    @Yumari-Mai 2 місяці тому +36

    9:12 "Is this the uThermal no gateway thing?"
    Yeah, I mean, building gateways is too meta for Marc so we don't do that here :D

    • @Appletank8
      @Appletank8 2 місяці тому +1

      We only probe rush in this house

    • @notalbertpotato
      @notalbertpotato 2 місяці тому +13

      I'm the Zerg in that video and realized it was him about halfway through and panicked and forgot to build roach speed. LOL meant no warpgate.

    • @hwile
      @hwile 2 місяці тому +1

      @@notalbertpotatolol, just goes to show how uncommon no warp gate is

    • @coasterphreak
      @coasterphreak 2 місяці тому +6

      That has to be an interesting thought process:
      wtf is this build?
      I feel like I've seen this somewhere
      oh goddammit this is uthermal doing his bullshit
      ...I'm gonna end up on youtube, aren't I?

    • @notalbertpotato
      @notalbertpotato 2 місяці тому +5

      @@coasterphreak that was it pretty much. And then me going "welp I died so fast it might not make it to video"

  • @roberts.wilson1848
    @roberts.wilson1848 2 місяці тому +14

    I'm betting the second match will end up in harstem's inbox "toss is imba or do i suck" videos sent by the terran, seeing the holy toss army at his doorstep.

  • @eldarnegrin
    @eldarnegrin 2 місяці тому +10

    First dude was such a sport. Getting destroyed never been so fun 😂

  • @GordonDoesntNeedtoHearAllThis
    @GordonDoesntNeedtoHearAllThis 2 місяці тому +4

    I'm not even a protoss player but these build order and series hooked me up. Waiting for more for sure.

  • @bertholdb9037
    @bertholdb9037 2 місяці тому +1

    This is an impressive demonstration that "Just having more stuff" is a pretty good strategy. Not a lot of fancy tech or upgrades or whatever. Just lots and lots of stuff.

  • @michaellyle6857
    @michaellyle6857 2 місяці тому +1

    I still remember playing Starcraft using TCP/IP direct connect over phone line with my friends and before that WC2 on LAN. Times sure have changed, I love the reference. Keep up the good content.

  • @SirJohny5
    @SirJohny5 2 місяці тому

    Ohh nice I was waiting for a follow up of this I can’t wait to watch !

  • @julkul2619
    @julkul2619 2 місяці тому

    Love the series keep it going, really fun to watch

  • @maximk9964
    @maximk9964 2 місяці тому +1

    Didn't get a chance to catch it this morning, but I'm excited to finally see this ep

  • @SChen-ei8gx
    @SChen-ei8gx 2 місяці тому

    I like it when your opponents are classy. Hats off to the first opponent for being a chill bro.

  • @Kapiteinramsamsam
    @Kapiteinramsamsam 2 місяці тому +2

    Love to see you play protos,you play smoother than your main race now.thats mine humble opinion 😊

  • @theJollyPaleGiant
    @theJollyPaleGiant 2 місяці тому

    This play-style is crazy. Love to see it.

  • @elevation1560
    @elevation1560 2 місяці тому

    Love this series!

  • @PresagefulID
    @PresagefulID 2 місяці тому +21

    crazy idea: make a brood war video

    • @uThermal
      @uThermal  2 місяці тому +17

      Maybe I will ^_^

    • @imwhiskey6114
      @imwhiskey6114 2 місяці тому +2

      Please do!🙂

    • @bullpup1337
      @bullpup1337 2 місяці тому +4

      but play like an sc2 player LOL

    • @tredogzs
      @tredogzs 2 місяці тому +3

      But play it like SC2 😂

  • @devinhorton7866
    @devinhorton7866 2 місяці тому +1

    Dude I waited so long for part two more please

  • @ComradeSulomon
    @ComradeSulomon 16 днів тому

    Are you planning on doing more of this series? I had been hoping for a long time to see a no warpgate run and was so excited when this series started. I would love it if more of this series was done!

  • @bobbob-gg4eo
    @bobbob-gg4eo 2 місяці тому +3

    What if when you went for the fast third Nexus you make it a hidden base?

  • @user-vj1es1ce4u
    @user-vj1es1ce4u 2 місяці тому +1

    When I need to just get away.....uthermal channel.

  • @bt920
    @bt920 2 місяці тому

    I love your Protoss builds!!!

  • @DistrictTerra
    @DistrictTerra 2 місяці тому

    I havnt watched must uthermal as it's a lot of beating up on people way below your skill.
    But I saw this and was absolutely inspired and it's been so good to absolutely abuse vs zerg. They seem to be really caught in the idea that they're ahead that they get stomped by my silly mass colossus game plan. Thanks uthermal for the 8 easy wins yesterday.

  • @MarlonSolisFallas
    @MarlonSolisFallas 2 місяці тому

    There's an interesting timing, because you can create a unit in the gateway, inmediately turn it into a warpgate and then no cooldown for warping in.

  • @Elundrilll
    @Elundrilll Місяць тому

    BEST PROTOSS BUILD AND NO WAPR GATE IN THE SENTENCE I LOVE YOU BUDDY

  • @wschmrdr
    @wschmrdr 2 місяці тому +3

    200 supply at 8:00.... Yet based on the preview picture, one gateway that can't get any units out of....

    • @GlenBeebe
      @GlenBeebe 2 місяці тому +1

      Also I didn’t see the supply at 200 at 8 minutes in either game. Did I miss something?

  • @Bitte0rca
    @Bitte0rca 2 місяці тому +3

    maybe to finish games, instead of sending a probe to make a pylon, they can make a proxy nexus to recall to?

  • @riyunei.8241
    @riyunei.8241 2 місяці тому +1

    I have to ssk, have you considered a timing +1 attack with zealot/sentry vs zerg and maybe even terran? You can open with a forge+ cannon, nexus first.

  • @mjaddix3278
    @mjaddix3278 2 місяці тому

    IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS

  • @Cteklo7
    @Cteklo7 2 місяці тому +1

    technically you can make some warp gates(not for challenge ofc) to use it with warp prism, while making units in normal gateways

  • @BrianLittle2
    @BrianLittle2 2 місяці тому

    do you think that no warp gate early game and only getting it late or mid game would be best? you got a large army fast

  • @metonp2288
    @metonp2288 2 місяці тому

    I think the benefits of not having to warp in an focus more on macro and micro really benefits this strategy. Basically your gates are never idle. Yes you need more gates because of the slower production rate but early game you will have more money and are able to expand faster and more

  • @Drymarro
    @Drymarro 2 місяці тому +3

    Seemingly enjoy these videos a lot despite my dislike for protoss. You make it entertaining!

    • @Dawindell
      @Dawindell 2 місяці тому

      Same. Marc makes even the Protoss games fun :)

  • @marc-andredrolet1276
    @marc-andredrolet1276 2 місяці тому

    Did you try +1 air weapons at warp gate timing for mind games and early game boost? Sounds nasty!

  • @eigentensor
    @eigentensor 2 місяці тому

    Protoss looks hilariously OP in first game!

  • @Shazbot277
    @Shazbot277 2 місяці тому +2

    5 gateways and 1 pylon to power them all!

  • @ianliu88
    @ianliu88 2 місяці тому +1

    Now you can only make brood war units!

  • @PajderRajder
    @PajderRajder 2 місяці тому

    As proud Silver/Gold player I don't use warp gate at all. Void Rays/Tempest are the way to go. They shoot up and down and use a lot of supply so there is less stuff to both macro and micro. This is the way. I did play full Gateway games as well, warp gate is something that I don't want to learn. Will steal some of the strats from Marc if I cannot play Stargate for some reason.

  • @TheGreenRoundBirb
    @TheGreenRoundBirb 2 місяці тому

    Nice video

  • @chir0pter
    @chir0pter 2 місяці тому

    @Harstem needs to try this

  • @tohothewriter8002
    @tohothewriter8002 2 місяці тому +1

    Gas steal all the terran. Also, why not play with the classic BW skin for the buildings?

  • @Jaguar-lr7jq
    @Jaguar-lr7jq 2 місяці тому

    Uthermal can you make a serral breakdown? Like how he do his build or something?

  • @geuros
    @geuros 2 місяці тому

    So you play it like Brood War, I can respect that haha

  • @Therosx
    @Therosx 2 місяці тому

    Man this does look strong. ❤

    • @uThermal
      @uThermal  2 місяці тому +3

      I just did the second build twice but with warpgate (at some point) and destroyed a 5.8 terran both times lol its actually sick

  • @Kirk.television
    @Kirk.television 2 місяці тому

    Let's go!

  • @geuros
    @geuros 2 місяці тому

    If you skip the warp gate you should definitely try out some pylon first before probe builds as you can put down the proxy stargate around 1:56 which is quite bonkers

  • @memalley
    @memalley 2 місяці тому

    amazing. uthermal continual delivering GOAT tier content

  • @Keyser21
    @Keyser21 2 місяці тому

    No warp gate should be protoss mech to gm?

  • @diazalex5314
    @diazalex5314 2 місяці тому +2

    New challenge: get the protoss nerfed

  • @CamiloCBG
    @CamiloCBG 2 місяці тому

    I like this.

  • @oOOoOphidian
    @oOOoOphidian 2 місяці тому

    losing the oracle at the end 😭

  • @user-jm2sq4of2p
    @user-jm2sq4of2p 2 місяці тому

    Can you do a no orbital command challenge? Or at least a no MULE challenge as you always say scans are expensive since scanning lost the income of the mule.

  • @user-eh5jp2nm3g
    @user-eh5jp2nm3g 2 місяці тому

    Could you maybe make mass mutas work, because you can outplay the oponent so well with harassment and even kill most of the armys! ❤ Nice Protoss challenge as well btw!

  • @jaeglarion9991
    @jaeglarion9991 Місяць тому

    I imagine that the loss of MMR is accepted with grace, for the pleasure of facing such of-meta builds. Very cool, even in a loss. How much more so with the big W!?

  • @thenextlevelplay4486
    @thenextlevelplay4486 2 місяці тому

    Hey Marc, How to beat Serral with his zerg? Any options? 😊😊😊

  • @Xhydraa
    @Xhydraa 2 місяці тому

    21:37 :D

  • @KnThSelf2ThSelfBTrue
    @KnThSelf2ThSelfBTrue 2 місяці тому

    Terran-style protoss buildings

  • @gunnararc
    @gunnararc 2 місяці тому

    Go to 200 supply as soon as possible one game! Wanna see what it looks like

  • @gcl2783
    @gcl2783 2 місяці тому

    gg

  • @remeokits
    @remeokits Місяць тому

    Try half warp gates half normal production. Bet it would be invincible.

  • @RCG3.
    @RCG3. 2 місяці тому

    I never understood warp gates. When i protoss i don't use them cause you can make so much more without them. You give up so much production to warp wherever you want

  • @alexhramovic3819
    @alexhramovic3819 2 місяці тому

    🤩

  • @ike0072
    @ike0072 2 місяці тому +1

    Upgrade rush on random!

  • @Kalameeto
    @Kalameeto 2 місяці тому

    do photon cannon only, no rush 5, 200 probes

  • @generaljellyroll8737
    @generaljellyroll8737 2 місяці тому

    I tried to get a image of a anthropomorphic octopus tending to her garden in the shade and they are too risqué

    • @andrewduan5123
      @andrewduan5123 2 місяці тому +1

      What too much anime does to a mfer

    • @generaljellyroll8737
      @generaljellyroll8737 2 місяці тому

      @@andrewduan5123 It’s part of a Beatles’ song
      “I like to be
      Under the sea
      In a octopus’s garden
      In the shade”

  • @Scawtsauce
    @Scawtsauce 2 місяці тому

    it's hard to imagine an RTS better than SC2.

  • @kacpercichuta3814
    @kacpercichuta3814 2 місяці тому

    21:37 :)

  • @MagnificientLlama
    @MagnificientLlama 2 місяці тому

    Is this the protoss but actually zerg strategy?

  • @diox8tony
    @diox8tony 2 місяці тому +1

    New challenge idea: Brood Lord rushes.
    I guess combine it with corruptors to defend them.
    And then there is the early game...I suppose you have to allow Lings, maybe Muta or just corruptors

  • @BillyCarsley
    @BillyCarsley 2 місяці тому

    Please tell me the time difference between warp in with cooldown and building a unit directly from the gateway.

    • @matth9788
      @matth9788 2 місяці тому

      Being able to warp-in gives you the units right away. If your being attacked you can have units right then to defend as opposed to waiting for them to produce.

    • @Name-ru1kt
      @Name-ru1kt 2 місяці тому

      Warp gate makes your units produce faster than they would otherwise I think
      Spawn anywhere you have pylon power and build instantly. For example if I am max and my units die then I can instantly reinforce instead of waiting

    • @TittyWarrior
      @TittyWarrior 2 місяці тому

      So he is handicapping himself

    • @andamanen3843
      @andamanen3843 2 місяці тому

      The cooldown difference varies per unit, but warpgate is about 25% quicker on average. There is a complete table for all the units on the Liquipedia page of the Warp Gate.

    • @Appletank8
      @Appletank8 2 місяці тому +1

      There's theoretically a small advantage in that if you are just focused on spamming units out and keeping the queue active, instead of waiting for a good moment to warp in units, you may end up with more consistent production.

  • @NativeNewMexican
    @NativeNewMexican 2 місяці тому

    uThermal MMR 6692, BigGame MMR 3823, predetermined outcome it seems to me. I love the challenges and his amazing energy and gameplay and commentary, but it's so gross to know how lopsided the matchup is.

  • @crashtiansClips
    @crashtiansClips 2 місяці тому

    NGL warp gate always did seem like a waste of time for anything other than positioning.

  • @varentou5993
    @varentou5993 Місяць тому

    Bro you be building pylons so randomly and running 4+ gates off 1 pylon. Easy way to shut you down

  • @diox8tony
    @diox8tony 2 місяці тому

    If you ever compete again. I want you to do only 1, 2 and 3 base all-in builds(follow ups allowed when it fits). Roll for which timing(1,2,3) before the match, pick your Race+build(or random race) and go to town. You play best when you don't even know what your strategy is (lol).
    I think 1,2,3 base builds give you enough variety so your opponent can't always hard counter your turbo cheese. (I suppose some builds like nuke-spam don't need to be All-ins, just hard timings)
    Cannon rushes, prism+immortal micro, factory in the main base, battlecruiser+blue flame rushes, skyToss+Mothership bombs, Nuke spam, thor drop, PROXY REAPER(i thought this was your main build :( ,,,etc.

  • @Earsex4life
    @Earsex4life 2 місяці тому

    When you hit the like button before the video because you know Uthermal never disappoints.❤

  • @arsteel2388
    @arsteel2388 2 місяці тому

    I feel like this challenge should be Gateway units only, not just no Warp Gate.

  • @craigcombes
    @craigcombes 2 місяці тому

    Ever?? 😂

  • @user-ft7hq5hr4l
    @user-ft7hq5hr4l 2 місяці тому

    Can someone write this down pls

  • @BillyCarsley
    @BillyCarsley 2 місяці тому

    Big game another BW name. Big game hunters.

  • @hendrixj.8356
    @hendrixj.8356 2 місяці тому

    Need dual oracle 1 shot scv

  • @TheFavorite95
    @TheFavorite95 2 місяці тому

    skipping a 50/50 upgrade as the only restriction does feels rather insignificant if the focus is not on gateways. its it's like playing stimless to grandmaster and just playing mech, starport, etc

  • @alk672
    @alk672 2 місяці тому

    I don't know, I understand Marc is just so much better that nothing matters, but I feel like TvP is just completely broken in LOTV. I know pro terrans can make it work, but with all the early game options protoss has they can just take the third nexus off no units at all, doesn't feel like a fair game for terran.

  • @TheArchivistArchive
    @TheArchivistArchive 2 місяці тому +1

    Relatively new watcher here, I hope you don't continue with "Coming Up" segments at the beginning of your videos, it's so tacky, and just diminishes the impact when you get to that part of the video, please reconsider. Your videos are fine like you've been doing them, there's no need to change.

    • @iamlalala1995
      @iamlalala1995 2 місяці тому

      Nah its fine, just skip it lol

  • @IamCrusaderRUS
    @IamCrusaderRUS 2 місяці тому

    The thumbnail is awful. Also shouldn't you build gateways (at least later ones) a bit more forward instead of tucking some of them behind gasses in the main?