Much like what the Japanese did to the British motorcycle industry, the Chinese are doing the same. It also helps when most of the large motorcycle manufacturers have engines or even whole bikes built for them in China. You can't really buy any motor vehicle these days without some parts being made in China. People can still kick and scream arguing about it, but the tide is turning.
And for all those keyboard warriors who spout on about Chinese motorcycles losing their value, fall apart etc.,….I traded a 2 1/2 year old 650 dsx for the 900 and whilst it was obviously through a Voge dealer, the part ex price offered came as a very pleasant surprise. Ridden through the winter, little if any rust, nothing had failed, the engine pulled like a John Deere tractor on steroids over 3000 rpm, exceptional through the twisties with the 19” front wheel, was a great bike that took me back to traditional motorcycling, loved it. Voge are the new Honda, I can go back to the 70’s when they invaded the UK motorcycle market and how we scoffed…..how foolish were we, many are repeating the same exercise today. The 900 rides very well indeed, in sport mode it literally flies. Warning…..don’t whatever you do contact the dealer and arrange a test drive. It will highlight what you’ve been missing, especially when you get back on your own bike.
As a keyboard warrior I'd just point out you ignore the entire social and political dimension of the advent of Chinese manufacturing which bears no comparison whatsoever to the Japanese in the 60's and 70's ... other than that you're spot on.
Excellent introduction Mark. Certainly a feature pack motorcycle. A shame we don't get that brand in Aus. A little competition to CFmoto doesn't hurt anyone.
Thanks Mark. Love the review as usual, what you say always makes total sense to me! I’m a Tracer GT+rider so love the tec. For the money this is bloody fantastic! It’s a 750/850 GS basically, the bike the Met Police use as standard now so what’s not to like? I wouldn’t worry about parking this in town, it’s got everything anyone would ever need so once they sort out the dealer network this lot are going to take over the world in the same way Hyundai, Kia and MG are now mainstream brands.
Weight is 220kg fully loaded. Yeah! Go camping with it, make a little adventure to try it in the real world, but video everything for us, of course!😊 You just missed the braking lights, that light up when you have a car or bike behind you,but too close - the back radar activates the rear brake light. Another wonder to add to the endless list of goodies this voge has. Great video, as usual, and you always make me laugh, my friend 😅
Wise move, I have posted a response advising the very same. The bike is fantastic but the backup just doesn’t exist except for consumer rights legislation.
Looks a nice bike, very GS , be good as a tourer but to use as a proper adventurer for me something smaller and more agile. But as adventure style bikes go, I like it a lot.
Amazingly good bike for the money in comparison to its competitors, only for me at 5'9" & 77kg it does feel a heavy beast of a thing when sat on it at a stand still. A slight tilt to the left or right, the weight was very noticable & that's with nothing in the luggage boxes or fueled up. The 525dsx felt much better for me.
She's a heavy girl though. You quoted the dry weight I think. It's more like 240Kg real-world 'wet'. Giving a power:weight ratio similar to my Tracer 700. Also, it has a 21inch front to show its offroad chops. Bit weighty to be picking up all day long.
It's an ADV style bike, it's not being sold as a full on off road Enduro bike. That's why it's on Pirelli Scorpion Trail 2 Road biased tyres - not the more off road Scorpion Rally option. Ground clearance is 200mm so you can flat foot it when seated, not need a ladder like you do with the Tenere 700 Extreme or World Raid. No one of Sound mind takes a 1200 Triumph Exploder seriously off roading - it's a tourer that you might consider taking up a green lane. The Voge is a seriously good road bike and can cope with green lanes and trails. Chris Northover absolutely pounded one round Enduro World nr Swansea for 6 hours solid for a feature on Bike World TV and nothing broke or bent. He put a gentle ding in one of the cats doing a 4 ft drop off onto one of the trails, the bike was totally stock apart from fitting a pair of Michelin Anakee Wild tyres to cope with the mud and puddles (at his request) It carries its weight remarkably well & if Crazy Chris didn't kill it then you know it's a well built bit of kit!
The only negative with this bike is the lack of information and after sales support. Ask the dealer for the service intervals and he will probably say it’s 3000 miles which is absolutely ridiculous. AH BUT!!!! If you install the software update to 4.4 it increases to 6000 miles. NOW ask the dealer for the update and you will be told it isn’t available in the UK. Move on and ask the importer, MotoGB. Firstly they ignore emails, don’t acknowledge or reply at all. Call them direct and they will tell you to contact the dealer. Moving on again, many dealers have nothing positive to say about MotoGB either, especially with warranty claims. It is however a phenomenal motorcycle. I traded a 650 at 2 1/2 years old, ridden through all weathers, nothing had failed at all, little or no rust anywhere, scrubbed up rather well and my p/ex value was more than I had imagined. With just a few dealers throughout the UK, spares may become an issue in the short term but the total lack of communication should anything go wrong should be of concern to many potential buyers. Yamaha for instance have an impressive UK network, parts/warranty no real issue and if you’re stranded anywhere in the world practically you will be able to get help. It is a great bike for the money, no dispute with that at all but if it’s not possible to get a response to a simple question regarding service intervals and the ecu software update which is readily available in Europe it does not bode well at all. In Europe the 900 has a five year warranty I am to understand, in the UK it is two but that again hasn’t been confirmed with any documents when purchasing…..in fact you get no documents other than an invoice to pay from the selling agent. Anyone thinking of buying one of these, wait a while until they have covered a few miles and any issues have come to light and importantly have been addressed to the satisfaction of the owner. Caveat Emptor.
I tried one yesterday in Wigan. Coming off a 1250 gsa onto the Voge was interesting. Very comfy. Handles brilliant. More accessories than the can shake a stick at but one serious deal stopper. My GSA has a 30 litre tank and like most bikes (&cars) it shows the remaining range. The Voge only holds a cup full of fuel, 17 lts and at half a tank starts flashing red on the useless fuel gauge. There is no way of knowing what your remaining range is. Tourer? No chance. Glorified commuter until the fuel gauge is sorted.
@@aunoates6617 Just like I did all through the 60's, 70's, 80's and some of the 90's but it's almost 2025 and for a bike so full of tech that gets so much right, its disappointing. On top of that the flashing red warning light on the tft would drive you mad, especially in the dark. I want to order one for so many reasons and I don't care whether it's 9k or 90k, if it has an issue it needs addressing. We have so many choices today that manufacturers have to take notice of complaints and correct problems. Thats how things improve, not by the consumer having to adapt to a products failings.
I m not bothered about super large fuel tanks usually want to stretch my legs by 150 and a safety feature. Can always have aux fuel on those desert trips.
@@mengaw-yong2490 It's nothing to do with the range. I agree, 150 miles is plenty. My point is that not knowing how much fuel you have left is worrying. Back in the day all bikes had reserve but on the Voge the low fuel light flashes at half a tank or maybe its a quarter of a tank or perhaps its 3/4 of a tank. My point is you don't know.
Much like what the Japanese did to the British motorcycle industry, the Chinese are doing the same. It also helps when most of the large motorcycle manufacturers have engines or even whole bikes built for them in China.
You can't really buy any motor vehicle these days without some parts being made in China. People can still kick and scream arguing about it, but the tide is turning.
And for all those keyboard warriors who spout on about Chinese motorcycles losing their value, fall apart etc.,….I traded a 2 1/2 year old 650 dsx for the 900 and whilst it was obviously through a Voge dealer, the part ex price offered came as a very pleasant surprise. Ridden through the winter, little if any rust, nothing had failed, the engine pulled like a John Deere tractor on steroids over 3000 rpm, exceptional through the twisties with the 19” front wheel, was a great bike that took me back to traditional motorcycling, loved it.
Voge are the new Honda, I can go back to the 70’s when they invaded the UK motorcycle market and how we scoffed…..how foolish were we, many are repeating the same exercise today.
The 900 rides very well indeed, in sport mode it literally flies.
Warning…..don’t whatever you do contact the dealer and arrange a test drive. It will highlight what you’ve been missing, especially when you get back on your own bike.
As a keyboard warrior I'd just point out you ignore the entire social and political dimension of the advent of Chinese manufacturing which bears no comparison whatsoever to the Japanese in the 60's and 70's ... other than that you're spot on.
One year and 12,500 kilometres later with the Voge 525DSX and I can easily say that I ADORE this motorcycle. I try to find reasons to ride it.
If I was in the market for an adventure bike, this would be top of the list. So much for the money.
Excellent introduction Mark.
Certainly a feature pack motorcycle. A shame we don't get that brand in Aus.
A little competition to CFmoto doesn't hurt anyone.
Thanks Mark. Love the review as usual, what you say always makes total sense to me! I’m a Tracer GT+rider so love the tec. For the money this is bloody fantastic! It’s a 750/850 GS basically, the bike the Met Police use as standard now so what’s not to like? I wouldn’t worry about parking this in town, it’s got everything anyone would ever need so once they sort out the dealer network this lot are going to take over the world in the same way Hyundai, Kia and MG are now mainstream brands.
Weight is 220kg fully loaded.
Yeah! Go camping with it, make a little adventure to try it in the real world, but video everything for us, of course!😊
You just missed the braking lights, that light up when you have a car or bike behind you,but too close - the back radar activates the rear brake light. Another wonder to add to the endless list of goodies this voge has.
Great video, as usual, and you always make me laugh, my friend 😅
Incredible value and a nice looking bike. Going to sit on fence Nd see how they go over next year or so.
Wise move, I have posted a response advising the very same. The bike is fantastic but the backup just doesn’t exist except for consumer rights legislation.
yes, within reason - for me a bike isn't the tech, it is the bike - this is a good bike that also comes with a shedload of tech, oh and luggage 🙂
That centre stand problem is exactly the same as the issue with the Triumph 900 RP
Looks a nice bike, very GS , be good as a tourer but to use as a proper adventurer for me something smaller and more agile. But as adventure style bikes go, I like it a lot.
Amazingly good bike for the money in comparison to its competitors, only for me at 5'9" & 77kg it does feel a heavy beast of a thing when sat on it at a stand still. A slight tilt to the left or right, the weight was very noticable & that's with nothing in the luggage boxes or fueled up.
The 525dsx felt much better for me.
She's a heavy girl though. You quoted the dry weight I think. It's more like 240Kg real-world 'wet'. Giving a power:weight ratio similar to my Tracer 700. Also, it has a 21inch front to show its offroad chops. Bit weighty to be picking up all day long.
It's an ADV style bike, it's not being sold as a full on off road Enduro bike. That's why it's on Pirelli Scorpion Trail 2 Road biased tyres - not the more off road Scorpion Rally option. Ground clearance is 200mm so you can flat foot it when seated, not need a ladder like you do with the Tenere 700 Extreme or World Raid.
No one of Sound mind takes a 1200 Triumph Exploder seriously off roading - it's a tourer that you might consider taking up a green lane. The Voge is a seriously good road bike and can cope with green lanes and trails. Chris Northover absolutely pounded one round Enduro World nr Swansea for 6 hours solid for a feature on Bike World TV and nothing broke or bent. He put a gentle ding in one of the cats doing a 4 ft drop off onto one of the trails, the bike was totally stock apart from fitting a pair of Michelin Anakee Wild tyres to cope with the mud and puddles (at his request)
It carries its weight remarkably well & if Crazy Chris didn't kill it then you know it's a well built bit of kit!
@@rodgeskell4218 Aye Tenere is a tall one. Useful info thanks. Edit - I've actually watched that vid.
nothing heavy mine yamaha fjr 1300 has 340 kg and its what it is
I have the same centre stand issue with my benelli 702x
The BMW F800GS is probably a nearer comparison and if you spec it up its still a reasonable price
"Ooh, the Number42".... ker-plic.😲
👍good review
nice review....😀. is the quality of the voge dsx comparable to the benelli tre 702x?
I like the 702...this feels better.
Shame only a two year warranty.... CFMOTO 4 years...BMW 3 years and SUZUKI 3 (up to 7 potentially)....🤔
Are VOGE not that confident.
What about tall rider over 6 foot?
I don't see an issue.
The only negative with this bike is the lack of information and after sales support. Ask the dealer for the service intervals and he will probably say it’s 3000 miles which is absolutely ridiculous. AH BUT!!!! If you install the software update to 4.4 it increases to 6000 miles. NOW ask the dealer for the update and you will be told it isn’t available in the UK.
Move on and ask the importer, MotoGB. Firstly they ignore emails, don’t acknowledge or reply at all. Call them direct and they will tell you to contact the dealer.
Moving on again, many dealers have nothing positive to say about MotoGB either, especially with warranty claims.
It is however a phenomenal motorcycle. I traded a 650 at 2 1/2 years old, ridden through all weathers, nothing had failed at all, little or no rust anywhere, scrubbed up rather well and my p/ex value was more than I had imagined.
With just a few dealers throughout the UK, spares may become an issue in the short term but the total lack of communication should anything go wrong should be of concern to many potential buyers.
Yamaha for instance have an impressive UK network, parts/warranty no real issue and if you’re stranded anywhere in the world practically you will be able to get help.
It is a great bike for the money, no dispute with that at all but if it’s not possible to get a response to a simple question regarding service intervals and the ecu software update which is readily available in Europe it does not bode well at all. In Europe the 900 has a five year warranty I am to understand, in the UK it is two but that again hasn’t been confirmed with any documents when purchasing…..in fact you get no documents other than an invoice to pay from the selling agent.
Anyone thinking of buying one of these, wait a while until they have covered a few miles and any issues have come to light and importantly have been addressed to the satisfaction of the owner.
Caveat Emptor.
I tried one yesterday in Wigan. Coming off a 1250 gsa onto the Voge was interesting. Very comfy. Handles brilliant. More accessories than the can shake a stick at but one serious deal stopper. My GSA has a 30 litre tank and like most bikes (&cars) it shows the remaining range. The Voge only holds a cup full of fuel, 17 lts and at half a tank starts flashing red on the useless fuel gauge. There is no way of knowing what your remaining range is. Tourer? No chance. Glorified commuter until the fuel gauge is sorted.
interesting
Yes, but if it was your own bike and it was you who put the fuel in, then you would know the range.
@@aunoates6617 Just like I did all through the 60's, 70's, 80's and some of the 90's but it's almost 2025 and for a bike so full of tech that gets so much right, its disappointing. On top of that the flashing red warning light on the tft would drive you mad, especially in the dark.
I want to order one for so many reasons and I don't care whether it's 9k or 90k, if it has an issue it needs addressing. We have so many choices today that manufacturers have to take notice of complaints and correct problems. Thats how things improve, not by the consumer having to adapt to a products failings.
I m not bothered about super large fuel tanks usually want to stretch my legs by 150 and a safety feature. Can always have aux fuel on those desert trips.
@@mengaw-yong2490 It's nothing to do with the range. I agree, 150 miles is plenty. My point is that not knowing how much fuel you have left is worrying. Back in the day all bikes had reserve but on the Voge the low fuel light flashes at half a tank or maybe its a quarter of a tank or perhaps its 3/4 of a tank. My point is you don't know.