Owning property in SA | Financially more viable to rent than buy?

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  • @confidencesibanda7841
    @confidencesibanda7841 Рік тому +18

    When you take a bond don't relax until its paid off, the sooner you get it paid off the better. The property is not yours until its paid off.

  • @robintyson591
    @robintyson591 Рік тому +54

    I'm 64, my mother is 93. We both OWN our homes. NOTHING beats that when you get older.

  • @glenmash2363
    @glenmash2363 Рік тому +21

    A house you live in is not an investment, it is a shelter. This is one of the biggest misconceptions with property.

  • @teachingwithtrash5417
    @teachingwithtrash5417 Рік тому +14

    The problem is if you’re renting is you don’t have a place to grow old in… you can get evicted at any point and have to go through the pain of hunting and packing and moving

  • @bonganibongani
    @bonganibongani Рік тому +34

    Those were unfortunately not wise and definitely not honest words. South Africans, please buy as much profitable property as possible. South Africans need to own this country and land, by all means necessary!!

    • @AskJax
      @AskJax Рік тому

      Well said

    • @jjm2682
      @jjm2682 Рік тому +1

      This statement is based on what evidence?

    • @denzel1877
      @denzel1877 Рік тому +5

      @@jjm2682 It is based on the fact that people who own property (landlords) are getting richer and the tenants are getting poorer with the constantly rising rents. happy?

    • @johnmajor9564
      @johnmajor9564 Рік тому +2

      @@denzel1877
      If you take out a 100% loan you have to pay interest, transaction costs and the loan itself. Add to that rates and your maintenance reserve (between 1,5 and 2% of the property value per year) you actually have to put money into your property. SA shares achieved an average return of 11,2% since 1995. No property in SA achieved that.

  • @VR_27
    @VR_27 Рік тому +9

    In Cape Town, factor in the levies, crazy apartment prices and the criminal level of once off legal and admin costs ( though that's a national problem) , it becomes impossible to buy in a middle class neighborhood on a middle class income..tragic.

  • @drjacovanniekerk
    @drjacovanniekerk Рік тому +20

    I am sure all landlords would agree!

  • @alistairfrancis4626
    @alistairfrancis4626 Рік тому +13

    There is some logic to this, but we as South Africa lack the discipline to save and invest. Therefore buying a house is still the best option for majority of South Africans. Renting is for those people in the higher LSM who enjoys the pack up and go lifestyle.

    • @johnmajor9564
      @johnmajor9564 Рік тому

      Or renting is for those who haven’t settled down yet…like your realistic perspective of South Africans ❤️😂

  • @sylviaphalatsi52
    @sylviaphalatsi52 Рік тому +35

    They don't want people to own properties

  • @sbonzama7013
    @sbonzama7013 Рік тому +11

    The last point is a bit problematic for me. This issue of "saving". Inflation is eating away your savings. Saving interest rates are not good. So I don't think you would be in a better position!

    • @jjm2682
      @jjm2682 Рік тому +1

      You right. “Saving” would depend on what financial vehicle you use

    • @johnmajor9564
      @johnmajor9564 Рік тому +1

      The SA share index achieved an average return of 11,2% since 1995. So no inflation is eating away my investments.

  • @andyballard1883
    @andyballard1883 Рік тому +2

    The Prof was talking about negative gearing in regards to paying off a bond.. but the other big incentive to rent if you have the cash is that if you put say 10 million rand in the bank you would earn maybe 8% interest which would cover your rental outgoing withouts tying up your money in a property asset which is not going to rise in value over the next few years

  • @ncisept5900
    @ncisept5900 Рік тому +7

    Buy a house, maybe not necessarily your dream home. But buy a house

  • @johnmajor9564
    @johnmajor9564 Рік тому +4

    If you take out a 100% loan you have to pay interest, transaction costs and the loan itself. Add to that rates and your maintenance reserve (between 1,5 and 2% of the property value per year) you actually have to put money into your property. Far more than you would have to pay rent.
    SA shares achieved an average return of 11,2% since 1995. No property in SA achieved that.

    • @sakhiledlamini4668
      @sakhiledlamini4668 Рік тому +2

      The Transfer Fees alone, u already in a Dark Hole. Rent for life. Liquidity is King

  • @scottgordon1781
    @scottgordon1781 Рік тому +5

    Bought my house 27 years ago @ 25% interest , R2500 / month , now R24 k , what my neighbours place went for , mine is slightly nicer .
    Had my time with renting , for ever at the vagaries of the landlord .
    I got a nice place in a good suburb .
    Might make myself a small flatlet alongside , rent out the house , paid for in 3 years :-)
    I expect to have spent the same on going off grid as I paid for the house .
    Free electricity in 5-7 years ? No cuts . At current electricity costs .
    LOL , I bought for R180 , now R2.5 m :-)
    very successful countries , try and buy an home there . :-) R7m +- Almost same as here .
    Ok , so one pays the balance into ....what exactly . Not bitcoin I hope :-) ?
    Beating inflation is the goal .

  • @Macedonia270
    @Macedonia270 Рік тому +8

    In addition, if you rent, the ANC cannot steal your property....

    • @IAMALLMUSIC
      @IAMALLMUSIC 10 місяців тому

      Underrated comment. People don't think bout this factor and the general state of the country. In 20 years SA could be Zimbabwe! Then what would your precious little house be worth?

  • @GeorgeOfTheJungle.
    @GeorgeOfTheJungle. Рік тому

    100% CORRECT SIR - You nailed it - People can see 5 years ahead in SA - very very negative for the property market.

  • @Noka227
    @Noka227 Рік тому +10

    Haha, no landlord would allow you to rent 5 years straight without escalating rent. The only way is to house hop and you are probably going to get significantly less house for your money or worse location if you want to keep the same size house. There is no silver bullet, no cheap tricks, nobody is going to make you rich while they make a loss.

  • @mbusisishi6765
    @mbusisishi6765 Рік тому +7

    Short-sighted unvestor view Even with those unfavourable economic conditions, with buying u're still paying towards your OWN property. The thought of leaving one or two paid up properties fir your offsprung makes it all WORTHwhile. For sime of us, its not about buying, sellig & repeang direct financial profits in our lifetime

  • @glenmash2363
    @glenmash2363 Рік тому +4

    I actually do not believe the property market in South Africa is cyclical, it seems to follow a very irregular pattern influenced by many factors.

  • @SENFU-y9y
    @SENFU-y9y 10 місяців тому +1

    The trick is to pay it off your bond quickly. Rents will ALWAYS go up with population and inflation growth. Don't rob yourself the chance to own a home while you can.

  • @mbuyiselo1
    @mbuyiselo1 Рік тому +6

    House repayment system is a scam. Imagine I brought my house for 630k 13 years ago. Paying 5k a month in average that Is R780k that I've paid so far but i still owe 540k.. imagine in 13 yesrs i only managed to pay 90k. The rest is interest. 690k interest.

    • @peterharwa9472
      @peterharwa9472 Рік тому +3

      Yeah it's a scam. The same bank will give you a car loan for the smae amount and you would have been able to pay it off in 5 years.

    • @wjg203
      @wjg203 Рік тому +1

      It's called inflation and evaluing of the currency due to bad economy in a country. Look at the Zim Dollar how it lost it value.

    • @confidencesibanda7841
      @confidencesibanda7841 Рік тому +1

      The mistake you made is that you thought you bought the property kanti its never yours until its paid up.

    • @mbuyiselo1
      @mbuyiselo1 Рік тому +7

      What I ended up doing was to rent the house out. Rent a flat. The house is now paying itself and paying my rent. But the banks are scamming us.

    • @confidencesibanda7841
      @confidencesibanda7841 Рік тому

      @@mbuyiselo1 good idea that

  • @bence8642
    @bence8642 Рік тому +24

    You will own nothing and you will be happy??

    • @onkerudah5619
      @onkerudah5619 Рік тому +6

      Only a few woke ones know this . . . I

    • @RG-jr8ym
      @RG-jr8ym Рік тому +1

      Lots of people scratching their heads with one...

    • @R33GAN
      @R33GAN Рік тому +3

      Great reset loading.....

    • @TravellingVineyard
      @TravellingVineyard Рік тому

      Yes you Muppet. You invest the money, shares, bonds etc That will outperform a house as an investment. But I really don't expect you to understand.

  • @MJ31579
    @MJ31579 Рік тому +3

    Owning is a long term game

  • @sihlemasondo2898
    @sihlemasondo2898 Рік тому +4

    Switzerland is 1st world we are 3red world we cant compare let's own our property

  • @arthurporfirio5718
    @arthurporfirio5718 Рік тому +1

    Owning a home at the end of the day is everyones goal but paying if for +-20 years which is usually more than the actual price, hurts.

  • @nathanlakey57
    @nathanlakey57 Рік тому +2

    Here’s the concern. The average South African doesn’t earn enough to afford their own assets. Never have I heard when a liability or an expense is better than an asset because of viability financially. Isn’t the economic structure that allows for that financial model the problem?

  • @immutablebones6215
    @immutablebones6215 Рік тому +4

    Unfortunately, the majority of the people still don't know the difference between assets and liabilities. This is the reason the gap between the rich and everyone else will keep growing. The minute he mentioned 'saving', I knew he was bluffing. He's not a real investor. He still talks about a property he bought decades ago.

  • @rationalthinker9181
    @rationalthinker9181 Рік тому +7

    Because owning a house means you have bought part of South Africa Inc you are investing in SA. If SA was a share would you buy it personally I would not.

    • @ObelixBarbatus
      @ObelixBarbatus Рік тому

      Agreed. I have started selling my properties to become liberated from the screws put on the homeowner by municipalities and the socialist government.

    • @williampearson6299
      @williampearson6299 Рік тому +1

      That's a lie. Rather build your own house

    • @vonganishaun98
      @vonganishaun98 Рік тому

      Buy and rent it out

    • @IAMALLMUSIC
      @IAMALLMUSIC 10 місяців тому

      This is 💯 correct

  • @mopailothatelo583
    @mopailothatelo583 Рік тому +6

    Listen to him, you will sleep in your cars etc. South Africa does not have a proper and robust social housing system like in Europe. Even the US 🇺🇸 have done poorly in social housing, hence people turn their cars into houses.

    • @clinthufkie3242
      @clinthufkie3242 Рік тому

      Its not the system that's not robust, it's the lack of funding, look at the UK.

    • @IAMALLMUSIC
      @IAMALLMUSIC 10 місяців тому

      Sleep in your car why? You can always rent elsewhere, anywhere in the country easily!

  • @sihlemasondo2898
    @sihlemasondo2898 Рік тому +3

    " I would not sell a house unless I have financial problems" u hear wat he said dont be fooled ownership is key

    • @soniabule9089
      @soniabule9089 Рік тому

      Don't sell the house if it's paid off. holding on to a property under fresh finance that you will end up paying 3x more by the time you pay off is better to let it go. the best is top rent a cheaper property, save money towards buyer a house cash - it will save you on interest. especially in SA amod all the economic woes we are facing. otherwise its better to pay it off very quickly to enjoy the benefits of owning your own house

    • @sihlemasondo2898
      @sihlemasondo2898 Рік тому

      @@soniabule9089 that's true pay up.quickly and enjoy

  • @comrade916
    @comrade916 Рік тому +1

    Germany is successful economically, but that has nothing to do with property ownership. Some Germans don't buy property because they are renting because their monthly rent is controlled by the state. Why would someone take a risk of ownership and devaluation if you're guaranteed a small rent increase annually..?

  • @ZA_POLLS
    @ZA_POLLS Рік тому +2

    WHY IS SOUTH AFRICAN RESERVE BANK NOT DECLARING A RECESSION WE HAVE AN INCOMPETANT GOVERNMENT ECONOMICAL GROWTH IS SLOWING DOWN THAT 'S A SIGN OF A RECESSION UNEMPLOYMENT RATE IN GROWING

  • @katisop5991
    @katisop5991 Рік тому +3

    Have 1 house that you can do whatever you want with. Other property no thanks.
    If someone sues you for depreciation when your insurer repairs their RRCullinan, or for spilling coffee on their albino alligator Kelly bag... property records are public.

  • @miavos3610
    @miavos3610 Рік тому +2

    Excellent.

  • @eeddddyy8877
    @eeddddyy8877 Рік тому +8

    This old man is misguiding people. If you can invest in property go ahead... Own property 🏠 and forget about cars 😹

  • @BlessingMbalaka
    @BlessingMbalaka Рік тому +8

    So ownership is a bad idea and rental bondage is a bad investment?
    I don't agree with his reasoning honestly.

  • @onkerudah5619
    @onkerudah5619 Рік тому +7

    "It takes about 10 years to build a power station" that was a punch line lol

    • @truth-Hurts375
      @truth-Hurts375 Рік тому

      Meet Stupid....

    • @Macedonia270
      @Macedonia270 Рік тому

      It takes the ANC 10 years to build a power station (that does not work)...It took the non-disabled people 4 years to build the ones that worked flawlessly for 50 years....

    • @scottgordon1781
      @scottgordon1781 Рік тому

      Hilarious , the ANC has not built one that works yet :-) And cannot get coal to others .
      Watch for Chinese offers to build some :-)

  • @Justin-pd2bj
    @Justin-pd2bj 5 місяців тому

    When factoring the payments involved in owning a property, it's better to rent and investing your money elsewhere. Think about levies, bond transfers, 10% deposit, interest payments to the bank, maintenance fees, and so much more. If you are not disciplined about your money, its better to buy a property but if you're disciplined, better to rent and invest your money elsewhere

  • @mazibukomail
    @mazibukomail Рік тому +5

    When you own property, you own land.

    • @clinthufkie3242
      @clinthufkie3242 Рік тому +5

      Nope, government owns the land, you just own the bricks.

    • @cavbrown2939
      @cavbrown2939 Рік тому

      Incorrect. Government can expropriate 'your' land

    • @mazibukomail
      @mazibukomail Рік тому

      @@clinthufkie3242 are you saying farmers only own the structures and not the land?

  • @jodylgtv
    @jodylgtv Рік тому +5

    So blow your money in your youth. Own nothing. Rely on THIS government in your old age ...are you high!!

    • @lindiedelange3801
      @lindiedelange3801 Рік тому

      In your old age you won’t be able to afford the taxes (monthly municipal) on your home, or the electricity, and upkeep 🤷🏻‍♀️ I see it often!

    • @drjacovanniekerk
      @drjacovanniekerk Рік тому

      Very high! Fully agree.

    • @bebeled6955
      @bebeled6955 Рік тому

      ​@@lindiedelange3801, So how on earth will one then afford rent?

  • @lindiwemvelase_
    @lindiwemvelase_ Рік тому

    With the South African Economy....its best to buy your home.....At least by retirement age you have a paid up home....have an option to rent out your property should you wish to move to a retirement village

  • @mopailothatelo583
    @mopailothatelo583 Рік тому +14

    I rather buy a property, pay it off as quickly as possible, rather than sleeping under bridges after retirement.
    Americans live on tent cities, side walks due to high rent prices.
    If you can afford, buy as much as you could.

  • @shafiyaalgiquadra1105
    @shafiyaalgiquadra1105 Рік тому +5

    Full speed ahead, said Klaus in jubilation.

  • @wjg203
    @wjg203 Рік тому +3

    Unfortunately this video is generalizing. You have property owner who live in their property and then you have Investors who rent the properties out.
    If you earn a salary and is a taxpayer you should own a property then utilize your tax benefits with regards to you income and expense for the property which is perfectly legal provided that it's a investment property.
    Ther simply isn't a better investment than property as long as you bought the property for a good price. Property is the only investment that you can lend money for and create a income from plus earn a income while you sleep.
    Everybody needs a home over their head. Everybody need security long term.
    I know of many investors that earn more income from Property than they earn at their full-time job.
    I don't know of any good investment currently that will provide a good return in current economic pressures. Your investment might appear to have grown but the value of the currency would be worth far less meaning you actually lost money and have no security.

  • @ncamiosibusisoshelembe5956
    @ncamiosibusisoshelembe5956 Рік тому +1

    The is no wisdom in this, if you do not own a home, as soon you loose your job ur on the streets, with your kids.

  • @devoncrowe2184
    @devoncrowe2184 Рік тому

    What about all the ones the rural areas, they don't have title deeds ?

  • @volgantifriebus9549
    @volgantifriebus9549 Рік тому +4

    BRICS needs to start replacing the Rand it's holding the dollar up cut the Rand create a new currency backed by resources the Rand is a outdated currency

    • @truth-Hurts375
      @truth-Hurts375 Рік тому

      Meet stupid...how will a new currency make it cheaper to buy a house...stop talking rubbish.

    • @volgantifriebus9549
      @volgantifriebus9549 Рік тому

      @@truth-Hurts375 Drop the Rand use a new currency or the USD the Rand is a dead currency and Africa is suffering because they refuse to innovative or change course

  • @peterkoutsis2780
    @peterkoutsis2780 Рік тому +1

    How many Swiss nationals are renting.
    Regards

  • @tshililoclaudinahmugovheli5793

    6:50 by now you should have paid off your mortgage loan.

  • @johndo3930
    @johndo3930 Рік тому

    If you paid rent at 15000 instead of an bond after 5 years we take for arguments sake 10% escalation after 5years you be paying R 24157 rent but still R20 000 bond so you could only put away the R5000 FOR THE FIRST 3 YEARS OR SO. And you still got 15 years to go.

    • @IAMALLMUSIC
      @IAMALLMUSIC 10 місяців тому

      Lol this is a idiotic comment.

  • @DrTT.DurDoc
    @DrTT.DurDoc Рік тому +3

    Who are the Swiss and German citizens renting from?

    • @raoulduke1914
      @raoulduke1914 Рік тому

      no they're buying because R19 to the Euro

  • @anumanuva2431
    @anumanuva2431 Рік тому +5

    Eet zee bugz

  • @bngmnh3583
    @bngmnh3583 Рік тому +1

    'By 2030 you'll own nothing & you'll be happy' - Klaus Schwab

  • @thokomasango2294
    @thokomasango2294 Рік тому

    There's no clarity here 🤔

  • @garagepie
    @garagepie Рік тому +4

    This property analyst doesn't own investment property 🤣🤣🤣

  • @lerax5049
    @lerax5049 Рік тому +1

    You can hear in his response that his telling half-truths. You will own nothing and be happy bs

  • @101dendroaspis
    @101dendroaspis Рік тому +4

    You will own nothing and you will be happy, ne?

    • @RG-jr8ym
      @RG-jr8ym Рік тому +2

      Its Sunday evening and you going to make some people scratch their heads with this one...lol

  • @robintyson591
    @robintyson591 Рік тому +1

    You can hear the presenter crying in the background!

  • @nathanlakey57
    @nathanlakey57 Рік тому

    Don’t talk nonsense. If can afford to own a fixed asset. You would consider the option of paying off someone else’s bond. Your financial structuring is torrid into even make that suggestion.

  • @Codydoggy
    @Codydoggy Рік тому

    You need a place to stay and there won’t be enough rentals

  • @johndo3930
    @johndo3930 Рік тому

    Buy your own property at least the one where you live , rentals keep on going up and up faster then earnings. My house is paid but I would not be able to rent my own house today. House might not keep up with inflation but neither does your income standard of living in this country is going down these guys only look at raw numbers that does not always reflect what's happening on the ground. Second properties that might be debatable. After 20 years its paid off inflation will make it easier to make payment as time goes by. Switzerland is a bad example there is rent control an landlord can not increase the rent with more then 40% of the inflation rate.

  • @rynhardvil2231
    @rynhardvil2231 Рік тому

    real bad advice from someone who owns more than one house, we need our own homes or you will have to work for the rest of your life to pay someone else to live in....

  • @EinadManhoff
    @EinadManhoff Рік тому +1

    Part of wef con you will own nothing and be happy

  • @goodbarbenie5477
    @goodbarbenie5477 Рік тому

    Yep... it takes 10 years to build a power station and takes 15 years to destroy it South African style. Hahaa...just dont fix anything. Let it take care of itself. Is their motto.. Hahaa

  • @andrewswales1042
    @andrewswales1042 Рік тому +1

    Owning a property would be an investment but soon government will own all title deeds so rent,.

    • @mbusisishi6765
      @mbusisishi6765 Рік тому

      Givernment owning all title deeds? What do u mean? Source?

    • @101dendroaspis
      @101dendroaspis Рік тому

      @@mbusisishi6765 Land courts bill, Expropriation bill?

    • @MusehanaH
      @MusehanaH Рік тому

      Rent from whom? 😉

    • @fredperry523
      @fredperry523 Рік тому

      EWC - Expropriating Whiteys Capital !

    • @MusehanaH
      @MusehanaH Рік тому

      @@fredperry523 , and here I was thinking it means Ending White Callousness...My bad 🙃

  • @AskJax
    @AskJax Рік тому +1

    You will own nothing and be happy 😏

  • @daphneelevasseur3832
    @daphneelevasseur3832 Рік тому

    By 2030

  • @truth-Hurts375
    @truth-Hurts375 Рік тому

    What is there to argue about this???

  • @GreyMist123
    @GreyMist123 Рік тому +2

    The world economic forum said, you will own nothing and you will be happy. Personally I'm happy we bought our house and won't spend the rest of our lives worrying about whether we'll still be able to live in the same place in 5 or 10 years.

  • @franswelten4327
    @franswelten4327 Рік тому

    Having a bond free property is fine, selling a property you swob it for Fiat money, printed shit, the best thinh is not talki G about property value, just steal money, where ever there is, very practical, yes, talking is sheep 😂