I Was So Worried This Would Happen To My Child.
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- Опубліковано 6 кві 2023
- I was really worried my daughter wouldn't be able to sing...this is why.
This a clip taken from my podcast with Elizabeth Zharoff aka @TheCharismaticVoice. You can watch the rest of it here: • What Makes A Voice Gre...
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I take it the "jason" you refer to is the world renowned Jason Dawkins of the Lightness? :D
Even if you’ve watched the full interview on here, I’d recommend listening to the podcast also. For one, if you’re a “fanatic” or a “completist”, there is a different intro and outro on the podcast. For two, listening to the podcast truly is a different experience as there is no video to distract you, so you can truly “hear” and be “immersed” into the conversation.
But, yes, you will not be able to see their beautiful and sometimes, goofy facial expressions.
ХААХАХАХ ΤΗΙΣ ΙΣ CUTE TWO NERDS SPEAKING
Love your videos. Only discovered them recently but I'm a big fan. Just wondering, if I want to take singing lessons to sing a rock type of vibe, what sort of teacher should I look for? There are so many from classical trained singers (for opera and stage) and great self taught singers plus many others. I don't want to start down a road and find it's not at all what I want or worse, I'm getting taught bad habits. I live in Australia and I need help on this subject if you have the time to help and knowledge (love your singing and it sounds like you came by it naturally with no lessons. Is that about right?)..... cheers mate.
"The child emerged..." this killed me hahaha.
"Let's talk about my friend Jason..."😂😂😂
"Let's talk about my friend Jason" haha that had me laughing.
Sounds like Jason should start a band, they could be called 'The Brightness'. I'm envisioning a hit song titled 'I believe in a thing called hate'. Come on Jason, the world needs The Brightness!
missed opportunity to write "loathe" instead of hate
@@GrowingDownUnder 🤣😂🤣😂🤣 Ahh nuts. Hindsight is a wonderful thing! 😝
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Well, you're both correct, really either word would fit. But that song would be really fitting in 2023.
You're a braver man than me Jason.
It’s okay, they’re divorced already!
She’s a very patient listener ...
About 2.30 mins in and I've lost mine already
My wife is a "Jason" ... luckily our daughter inherited her mother's musical ability.
My singing is recognized by the Hague as a crime against humanity.
"Crime Against Humanity" should be the name of your metal band. You sing lead of course.
@@bass7842 I don't think even Metal could find a place for my voice.
It all sounds good in my head...
Listening to these two humans reminds me that there are really kind and decent humans in the world.
Well said. I felt the same thing.
Yes! Well said!
Reading this comment from an animal reminds me that there are really kind and understanding animals in the world.
*JUSTIN* Please *PLEASE* do more with Elizabeth!!! I really enjoyed the full conversation and this snippet, as well!
Yess, lovely and brilliant.
I wanna hear Justin's daughter sing!
I absolutely love you two just chopping it up!
Hope this is the start of a long friendship where you two come together every once in a while and just talk about whatever.
I think they should go out on a date!!
@@bryancopeland2540 She's married with a new baby, so that's very unlikely. 😉
omg, she is so beautiful..😍😍😍
Is this the operatic voice lady?? She's gorgeous
My "friend Jason" also has a daughter who, to his great sadness, seems to have inherited the mum's painful lack of "pitch awareness" of any kind 😢
He started talking about his wife being tone deaf and when realizing his mistake he was like "let's move on shall we and talk about Jason"
Here’s your 🏅 Sherlock
@@richardrocks2005 someone needed their 5 seconds huh?
You must be so bored with your life you’ve nothing better to do with time than to….fail miserably at being a smartass online for attention.
Run along little one, you’ve had your 5 seconds of fame. Now it’s time for you to fade into obscurity
When the term "foghorn" made its entry to describe her voice, my day was brightened indeed
Jason Hawkwind has a very tense household after someone saw this podcast.... be brave Jason. Be brave
Real glad you confronted this friend
I only follow about 20 people on UA-cam, so how cool was it for two of the people I follow to start collaborating. Just great! Love you guys!!
I didn’t think you’d top the Rick Beato interview, but Elizabeth is a top notch charming lady. So smart, so informative thank you👌
Awesome video Justin. Two of my favorite creators together!!!!!
That was a great collaboration!
I don't care about singing as such, but I still love her channel because of her genuine joy and active listening. She sold me when she actually counted out the time signature for Spoonman.
Spilled my coffee laughing at this :D
Jason's wife needs to see this XD
This was an awesome interview
Chris Cornell had some vocal issues around the Audioslave days. I believe he did get some vocal coaching and I believe the grate in his voice developed over the years (smoking/reflux/vocal chord injury? as contributing factors). Still the best voice to come out of Seattle.
My fave quote from Roger Daltrey (after watching the Broadway version of TOMMY) was that he always prefered to hear "See Me, Feel Me" sung in the key of sweat.
Justin, it's so awesome to see you two having a conversation.
This is totally off subject, but I have to say it. Motorheart is a total kick ass album from beginning to end and it's criminal that the "music scene" in general hasn't recognized it as a classic album. If I've listened to it 100 times, then I've listened to Sticky Situations 300 times. It blows me away. As a southern man who takes his blues seriously, whoever played slide on the song has an automatic entry into the Southern music Hall of Fame. I'm chomping at the bit waiting for the next album.
I'm completely deaf in one ear and use a hearing aid in the other, I enjoy singing but unfortunately my pitch is all over the place so I've given up hope and just sing to myself in the car 😂 great chat between the two of you by the way.
"The woods would be a quiet place if only the best birds sang."
Another great episode of Jason Hawkins Rides Again.
I think his podcast is Jason Dawkins Chides The Rain
I am a lead guitar player in a Opera metal band with a killer female singer, and I was delegated the one who harmonizes with this insane singer...ouch... I just don't have the physical build biologically to do this. But.... Our lead singer through the awesomeness that she is as a human being... started teaching me to sing and be able to run with her in our sets. So yes you can sing, and you can be taught to over come!!!
Oh, well done! This brings to mind something Michael Crawford once said, that iirc it took him about 3 months to reach the top note that he needed when he played the Phantom of the opera.
@@jamesthecat Man, he was a beast for conquering that performance as the Phantom.
Do you smoke? I did. Quit but feels my vocal chords are trashed..
The whole interview was simply magnificent, Justin! I absolutely love the fact that you left this part in the original video, and that you've made it a completely separate video as well! Quite entertaining, and a genuinely excellent question by "Jason" and (as expected) a wonderfully knowledgeable and "easy-to-understand" answer by E. Rock on! 😎🤘
My take on "correctiion" in post. Came home from work some years ago and my wife had some unfamiliar piano music playing. Not typical for our taste but very pleasant to listen to. Just piano no vocals or other instruments and simple song like structures akin to verse chorus and middle eight. After a few minutes of listening I realised that whoever was playing sounded quite good. A few more minutes in and I am thinking they are actually really very good. A few more minutes and I am thinking they are [expletive] amazing! So I asked my wife what it was. The album was Sea Airs. The pianist was Rick Wakeman. "Correction" would have denied me that revelation to pick up the skill of the performer without knowing who it was. I want that human connection. Without it I question whether sounds can even be classified as music.
"He's a reasonable singer" 😂😂❤
You’re a real experience, I recall you from the early years days and a work colleague suggested I listen to your stuff now and it’s become a firm favourite :)
Baby Mama must have a sense of humor.
Gold!!!! Pure gold!!!!!!!
I really hope you both find the time to delve in to early Cornell. The man had serious chops. Love this collaboration. Both your channels are great.
This was such a fun podcast! I have to go listen to the whole thing again!
Justin and jenny, nice places/spaces and faces all together. Love your explorations, in search of explanations. ❤
Our sound engineer will say "That's a little bit 'pitchy', but if it it's a great take otherwise he will 'nudge' it. He comforts me when he says that a lot of soul singers sing a bit flat. He's a very kind man 😇
This was a standout part of the interview! Loved it!
And I was extremely happy to hear their comments on Melodyne & Autotune usage.
I hope people clearly understood the positive side of what she said about Melodyne, and recognize a "keeper" vocal take requires more than just being in pitch. The take(s) must also work in the greater context of the other tracks (tonally and timing). A vast majority of vocal tracks are compiled from multiple takes and the tonal variances between takes often require subtle production that has nothing to do with pitch. If you're using a DAW that automatically integrates Melodyne, it's a major workflow benefit... especially for comping.
When applied tastefully/appropriately, Melodyne is one of the most valuable tools at our disposal (not just for vocals). I also use it for fine-tuning instruments (especially guitars), "pocketing" tracks in a musical way (i.e. not robotically snapping to grid), doubling and blending takes, elongating/curtailing notes, adjusting tamber (shifting formant), de-essing, and working out harmony arrangements too. I consider it an injustice to lump Melodyne into the same plugin family as the god-awful Antares Autotune.
Just like Elizabeth, I seriously doubt a vast majority of listeners could pick out parts I've tweaked with Melodyne. On the downside, it's a highly manual and time-consuming process to do it right, and you need the polyphonic version ($$$) to get the most out of this production tool. I could go into a bit more detail on "how to" and "how not to" use Melodyne effectively, but won't further bog down this post unless someone is interested.
@@matthewmcclure3181 You're making me wonder whether I'd have more fun with Melodyne or Kyma... probably Melodyne would be much more fun, at first at least, but much less deep...
I totally agree Adam.
The relief you felt of Jason's behalf was hilarious.
I'm really glad you have taken a portion of this and posted it here. Two-plus hours is more than I am prepared to sit through, but snack-sized portions like this occasionally is great, though I hope it doesn't entirely replace your other videos.
Yep of my favourite UA-camrs trying not to giggle. This makes me happy.❤
You two would make a good podcast
I just love your humor !,
I've been so looking forward to this!!!
i love both of these two! both great channels!
This is just awesome 🤩
This is my favorite one you've done!!
Really enjoyed the whole thing!
There was a guy named John who married someone that was tone deaf. Some people say she caused his band to break up. Luckily his son's voice turned out to be fairly decent when he grew up. Though not quite as good as his half brother Julian.
hmmm.
Whomever could that have been?
And agree about Julian. Much better voice. But then, Sean was a part of Cibo Matto.
You two together are pure gold.
Fascinating mate. Thanks. I love your interviews 👍❤️
I could kinda, sorta see the worry. So far so good lol? I can’t get enough of this episode. An absolute favorite guys!
Brilliant video, great answer. I don't what more the two of you would chat about, but I think there should be more forthcoming collaborations.
You are fabulous, don't worry!
Awesome video, I love your channel so
Much. I would watch this again. Very informative! ❤️❤️
Awesome channel and podcast Thxs
👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Thxs for riding again Justin
AZ
You are delightful ❤️🤪
Episode 2 plz!
I have wanted to hear from Elizabeth , more along the very lines you asked about tone deafness and training. So there it is. Thank you for posting this clip, got some good info. Cheers!
😂 i admit i finally didn't understand if Jason's child sings or not... i was very concerned too. My grandpa sang, his mother sang and played guitar... anyone of the rest of family after them have this gift...because it is what is to me... a gift. But i am pretty sure Jason's child will develope his/her own abilities...
I love to watch your videos... and the work that Jenny May Finn does with them! ❤
What do you mean you don’t understand it?
@@supertuscans9512 i am from Spain, and i understand English with some difficulty sometimes, and it wasn't finally clear to me if the child can sing as the dad or can't like the mom. Yes, i didn't understand it very well... i mean the problem at whole...
Ah, ahorra lo entiendo, pero su ingles es mucho mejor que mi espanol.👏
@@supertuscans9512 we could teach each other!
@@supertuscans9512 but tell me, can the child sing?
Don't get too carried away. How many of us can actually listen to you in perfect tune? Not me for sure. Luckily for me it still sounds great, so thanks very much to both of you.
What two lovely people
More singing lessons!! This was great
Loved the original, loving the snippets, as we say up North.
There’s another point too. Being a Welshman, I have to be able to sing, but there’s nothing extraordinary about my voice. I was “forced ”, due to circumstances, to take the lead vocal role, whereas I see myself as a good backing vocal and prefer to concentrate on my guitar work. I have seen this with many bands, where the vocalist is mediocre and the band goes nowhere. Singing in tune ain’t always enough. I’m waffling…
Ginger from the Wildhearts took the singing gig because no-one else did, worked out fine... Tim Armstrong of Rancid can barely sing a note but manages to rock completely... the song, the mood and the delivery can overcome a lack of range and serious vocal talent (while Ginger's scream in SPLATTERMANIA is incredible, I'm sure he'd admit to being no Sam Ryder).
@@KevPage-Witkicker no wonder, I’ve never heard of them. The topic is “singing”, not farting into a microphone with autotune on max.
@@jimmcdougall9973the Wildhearts don’t use auto tune…nor do Rancid
@@jimmcdougall9973 No rock act worth their salt (and The Wildhearts and Rancid are certainly that) uses auto-tune; I was merely commenting on the untrained and raw sound they produce, which is nonetheless superb. Oh and does being a patronising c*** help you through life or does it tend to make people think you're pathetic?
Justin give us some more music, please!
Ready to be Justinized.😊
Elizabeth's reaction video to Johnny Cashs performance of Hurt is a perfect example of possibly not "perfect" singing but extremely powerful and PERFECT performance.
This is cool, you two should do more. Also, it makes me feel there may be hope, my singing sounds like if Dave grohl, dani filth and plan b got drunk in a karaoke bar and tried singing back in black, but worse…
dave grohl is a fantastic singer!
Elizabeth is just so adorable. If I were younger, I'd be honored to be rejected by her.
She’s married and has a relatively new born babe.
@@supertuscans9512 yeah, thanks. I wasn’t serious.
I'm convinced that you could easily do a duet like Freddie and Montserrat. How do you feel about that?
What an excellent idea, Col.
@Southside Johnny We just need to get Justin and Elizabeth on board with the idea. I think it has the potential to be huge. Between them, the have almost 2,000,000 subscribers so straight away the potential buying audience is already there. If each subscriber bought a copy, the song would be a worldwide hit.
Imagine what the reaction channels would make of that!
I'm so happy this wasn't edited out. I can personally understand the fear that your child may be born with or inherit a disability that wouldn't allow you, as a parent, to share such a massive joy like music with them. My daughter was almost completely deaf until she was 3, which was one of my biggest fears for her, and I was heartbroken thinking my daughter would never be able to hear music. Luckily, she had a procedure that reversed most of it and went on to learn to play 4 different instruments and has such a love and appreciation for music.
From what I've read, amusia doesn't allow people to hear pitch and tone in everything...not just music. So they don't hear music the way others do and most don't like listening to it. And congenital amusia can be inherited. So Jason's fear for his daughter I'm sure was terrifying having to wait to see the outcome.
I'm so glad it all turned out positive and Jason and his child can bond over their love of music! That was one of my favorite ways to bond with mine as well. ❤️🎶🤘
amazing
I've looked and looked, due to my profession - psychotherapy - and I cannot find any solid, peer reviewed study that proves that artistic or sporting proclivities reside in the genes. I've also been a musician for 66 years. I found that the more you do it, the more 'talented' you get.....
Fantastic episode! On the subject of melodyne. As a hobbyist musician, with an innate desire to create, autotune is a god send. I can continue to learn to sing better, to play better and to mix better, but am also able to output some decent material and be satisfied enough to continue to improve and enjoy the process of learning and creating. I 100% agree that in a professional setting, it can cheapen the value of the struggle and effort of an artist, and understand that that must be frustrating, but it does have its place, or at least its uses, in certain situations.
biliant video, do more of these please. I love musician natter.
10:40 - forget who said it but there's a saying that fits this bit great:
"Perfect is the enemy of Good".
Damn it. I gave up somging a long time ago. Had i known there was hope!! I liked how he brought up Chris Cornell's early Soundgarden voice. I hope she reacts to some.
Thanks Justin, I appreciate you releasing this. I do hope folks listen carefully to what is said between both of you from 06:27 to the end - covers exactly what I posted about.
While Antares Autotune is always mentioned, it's Celemony's Melodyne that's virtually always the #1 tool of all recording studios. It's incredibly powerful - not only in editing pitch, but allows you to edit that other crucial component...phrasing (timing), and so much more, and therein lies the problem. You dehumanise the performance. The only criteria is that the singer is not tone deaf (most folk aren't) and has a reasonable 'voice' - but that doesn't mean they can sing live. Any musician that is able to perform a concert live does so through a hell of an amount of practice...and guts. Today, unfortunately for the listener, you don't need to be able to sing live, instead you simply mime at concerts. The question is, why aren't you told before ticket purchase?
As an audio engineer myself of many years, it's not the tools that's the issue, it's the abuse of those tools, and for the last 20 years, that abuse is to the level where today, you'd be hard pushed to listen to a genuine "human" performance. The 'Loudness War' stirred up a huge debate where the primary culprit, waves L1 Ultramaximizer, rendered way too many recordings devoid of any dynamics whatsoever. Today, we have way too many 'dehumanized, computer performances'.
Err; sounds like you were you auto-tuned after the last video… as in you changed your tune… am I right? 😂
@@badgerello "changed your tune" I see what you did there ;)
As for changing my tune from my posts in the previous video...
As an audio engineer I have no problem with the tools available. What I do have a problem with is today's near 100% abuse(!!) of Melodyne, where every track of every song (vocal or live instrument) is so heavily pitch and phrase edited ('computer perfect' - dehumanised) that it bears no resemblance to the original 'human' recording.
I also have a problem with the fact that the vast majority of today's 'pop' vocalists cannot sing live (Melodyne abuse again) - and the paying public are not informed beforehand.
I also have a problem with those same 'artists' putting on a concert and not informing the buying public beforehand that they will be miming.
And I have a problem with the youth in recent years being indoctrinated on a Melodyne-abused lie.
And most damning, I have a problem with young, talented singers being put off the profession by that same dehumanised computer lie.
Want more proof? search UA-cam for the Wings of Pegasus channel where Fil has an on-going lengthy series showing how widespread this problem is. All of Michael Buble's vocals are Melodyne-tuned and phrase-locked to the 'grid', and he is a fantastic singer. Why does he allow it? he says "because everyone is now doing it and he thinks the youth expect it".
There's an old Frank Sinatra vocal for "On a Little Street in Singapore." He sounds like a very competent tenor, but he could have been anyone. He hadn't yet developed the signature Sinatra sound. I was fascinated, when I ran across it and realized who was singing.
On Justin's recommendation, I just sought out to listen to "Hunted Down" for the first time. Spot on - Chris Cornell sounds more like me than Chris Cornell in that song!
Aw man I love Rush. Have been listening to so much recently, more of the really early stuff too, I was brought up with the early 80s stuff.
You should take a look at the new Winger single “It all comes back around!” Stellar guitar work from Reb Beach.
Agreed..there is such a thing as too perfect.The message & attitude are why people like Bob Dylan,Mick Jagger & Dave Lee Roth etc have sold in the millions & still sell out tours.Some people prefer app polishing but I don't unless it's used for effect.
A shout out to Morgan James on JHRA! Love it.
I am truly tone deaf, but I never used to be. Years of smoking and isolating myself in the home for over 10 years without really talking and communicating to people I lost my vocal control and never really came back think the damage was done
I absolutely cannot sing at all. I can play guitar just fine, and can tune by ear, but I still suck massively at singing. I mean, I can do punk rock, but that’s about it.
Her thoughts about tuning are spot on! Melodyne can sound very robotronic. If you start messing around with anything but moving the note up and down settings. I'd rather re-record, but sometimes if you're extremely lazy and a multi-millionare rapper, and it doesn't matter how you sound on the record that millions are gonna be recommended to listen to on Spotify, you'd just do one take and autotune or melodyne it.
i think if you think you cant sing and you can hear exactly why you cant sing, ie bad pitch, this can possibly be fixed. if you cant hear it, like CV says - not fixable
Can you learn to hear it though? If you can, then you can work on it, surely? Might just take more effort for a longer time for some people. It might never get “fixed” but it might be improved… 🤷🏻♀️🥰
When someone is totally tone def, you definitely be aware of it when he is speaking and that fact even gets more obvious when the person learns to speak a different language because there will be an even weirder intonation (speech melodie), because every language has its own melody and sound. On the other hand someone who is naturally very gifted often is not only able to speak new learned languages very well and without the typical dialect some people often got because of their native language, they often also can easily speak in different dialects of that new language because they easily adapt it by just hearing other people talking in a different dialect.
But this gift is not only a blessing. Yeah, it may be funny and may seem impressive for some to master several dialects of a foreign language, but if you can't even control it and after a few minutes completely unconsciously adopt a dialect that you are currently hearing but which previously sounded completely different (yet worse if the dialects of your own mother tongue can't be more numerous and different) then that's rather embarrassing and I always hope that I don't get a kick in my teeth because my counterpart thinks that I'm trying to impersonate how he speaks and insulting him and his dialect 🙏😬
I was told once, best advice ever..."there are two types of people, those that can sing and those that can't, the rest is confidence."
People might not like your voice, but generic singers do musicals, distingtive vocalists have fanbases
I had a music teacher who told me once that I seemed to have some trouble staying on pitch with my regular singing voice, but for some reason I had much less trouble when I sang in falsetto, and I have no idea why that is. I think I could definitely improve though if I wanted to.
It's so interesting that you're talking about this. I CANNOT SING! However, I can hear fine; my tone and pitch, however, is terrible! I don't know if this is affected by my cerebral palsy but I suspect it is. It's frustrating for someone who "cannot live" without music. I want to be able to sing and play an instrument, it just doesn't seem to be my thing.