Walksnail Avatar GT Kit 2000mW
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- Опубліковано 28 сер 2024
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Since I switched over to Walksnail last month, I've been asking myself:
_"Self, how could I make my VTx run _*_even hotter?"_*
Now I know! ô¿ô
Thanks BonafidePirate!
It's funny, I've actually been impressed with the temperatures I'm seeing in flight. I'm logging the debug info while flying so I can go back and look at different parameters, one of which is the temperature for the VRX and VTX. The transmitter has been running cooler than the receiver, which isn't something I expected to be honest... lol
flipping NICE!! we need a full build tutorial on the MFD setup. ive always been scared and never committed
I bought one couple years ago, never got it to work properly :(
I'll definitely show more about the tracker soon, a small group of us are working with MFD and ELRS to try to improve compatibility with that, but it's been working great with Dragonlink using Mavlink so far. (Well, they are working to improve it, I'm just one of the pilots testing and providing feedback... lol)
@bonafidepirate yeah please make a video about the tracker , I've been having one for years and never really used it , wanting to use it with my homemade fpv cockpit
I have been an RC flyer for more than 59 years and I have had many VTX';s and Cams but the Walksnail Avatar is my fav. I like the look of this new unit ! Will definitely try it !
Fantastic flying and review, Keith!!! 😃
Caddx is killing it right now! I hope their new updates for the Goggles X comes out soon!
BTW, only 1080p recording for now, right?
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
Yeah, this one has a max resolution and framerate of 1080/60. The Moonlight is still the only one with 4K. One of the other guys testing paired this GT with the stand alone Moonlight DVR and it works just fine, but there's still some question about doing the firmware updates because the GT has no place to plug in the update cable between the two boards.
4k on board with the moonlight but only 1200 MW of power which gets out there pretty good even better with a tracker I need a tracker that would be awsome
Whoa. Caddx is really kicking off at the moment.
But will it actually work
Always has been
Yeah sure they release a new product every week. But they never fix the issues with their old products. Just keep dumping more onto the market. They get things to 80%, then say, good enough. I like WS but feel like they could do better.
@@xBarnabyJonesx They are the only company that can step to DJI. I'm still flying the WS VRX v1 and it's fantastic with no problems once you get good antennas.
Even fatshark can't make good goggles with no issues after many years. issues with new products is expected. what's not expected is DJI to care about FPV at all. WS is all in on the hobby and innovations. Love that.
What's the actual draw of this though. I seem to get the impression people can fly crazy far in the air compared to say DJI but I would guess that's because DJI has a hard limit. My testing on the ground so far shows me that even though the GT is putting out more power and getting way hotter, it doesn't even have anything close to the range of the 03
I just got home from work. I got the email they released it, so I was excited to start researching and low and behold, didnt even have to type it in. Top suggestion :D Cheers dude! Awesome!
This is perfect for my ground vehicles along with the gimbal thanks
I'm tempted to pull the gimbal off my plane and put it into a truck for some ground based FPV on the windy days... lol
@@bonafidepirate yea if you have the time definitely it would be a good review for that kind of application haven't seen any other UA-camr do it yet
How about a video about your Mini Crossbow antenna tracker? A good video about your set-up would be very interesting. I am not only interested in how it's set-up, but I would like to understand how it works. I fly with an Frsky X18 transmitter and I have the GPS coordinates on the transmitter, and I was able to feed the GPS coordinates via bluetooth to my iPad. I am hoping to figure out how to feed it to the Mini Crossbow via bluethooth, if that's possible at all.
Yes, please more info about that antenna tracker
It's completely possible but YT keeps deleting my comments.
mine has shipped. a little quicker than I expected. can't wait to try it out
Interesting video, walksnail was a good choice for me and flying wings.
Nice video. Enjoyed this one.
Yes, please make some videos on the tracker. I have one setup with an ESP 15F. So far, I have not gotten it to work with Ardupilot. I am told that it will work with INAV exactly as I have it. I have not yet tested INAV. I am more an ArduPilot person. lol Tim the Plane Man told me another way to set it up with ArduPilot but I have not been able to find the time to test that yet. So any video on the tracker would be great. Especially if it is ArduPilot driven.
Hi Vernon! I did see your videos when looking for info about the tracker and wondered if you had it working... lol I will surely talk more about the tracker soon, but for now there's a small group of pilots helping to test some firmware changes to get better compatibility with ELRS, so I'm waiting to see how that all plays out. You have Dragonlink right? If you'd like I can help you get it working perfectly. I'm using the ESP-12F with Dragonlink but it shouldn't make much difference. I've also had good luck using Mavlink emulation with Crossfire over WiFi. It's not as perfect as with Dragonlink, but certainly flyable.
I think they all should come with a fan
I've joked that if they offered the fan for purchase I'd get some for some of my other VTXs... lol It's a neat little fan that moves a surprising amount of air for it's size.
@@bonafidepirate would u say this it’s there solution for the new range system they would talking about
No this is all still part of the original ecosystem.
Love your videos but damn walksnail is going to seperate me from my money. Thinking it's time to ditch DJI for walksnail
Great review! I actually want to jump ship to Walksnail... But could you whisper into Walksnails ear that live audio transmisson would be great for an even more immersive fpv experience? I really miss this feature from my analog days! But seems all the major digital fpv makers have dropped the ball on this feature.. The only reason I am still on Dji v2 system is actually because live audio is possible with that system via a special WTFOS-hack. It works great! No latency to talk about. It´s awesome in my current scale fpv bushplane. Really makes you feel more onboard your own aircraft. Apart from that, It´s also great for judging my throttle inputs on landing etc.
I totally agree! It adds to the immersion for sure. I've also been able to hear a motor acting weird and turn around to head home before an ESC finally crapped out. I was barely able to glide back to the runway, and I'm confident I wouldn't have made it all the way home had I kept flying farther away until the ESC died completely... lol I've mentioned it a couple of times, but it won't hurt to try again... lol
@@bonafidepirate Awsome! Your name carries much more weight than mine. Thanks!😊
Great video. Would love a follow-up video on the antenna tracker and particularly how it works with ELRS.
I might've missed it, but what's the battery consumption look like compared to other VTXs you've used, especially with that 2W power?
nice flying man ,i would like to know how the vtx perform on miniquad ,meaning penetration and range
Two questions for you.
What GPS unit are you using on the tracker if any?
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You said the dragon link worked best with the tracker.
What difference do you get when using Crossfire?
I too am using the Crossbow with full sized (2W) Crossfire over WiFi (ESP15F module) on my TX16S and it tracks pretty smooth but I don’t dragon link to compare.
Ping ping 😮
That's a lot of fun within 100m AGL!! Much enjoyed the fly along and the informative narration. #FPVistherapy
Oh i can't wait to get my hands on one!
Thank you for the great review!
That is great video coming through. Will have to test it for sprayer prototype. It sounded like you think Dragonlink is the best way to go for a reliable long range system?
Oh wow, new 2 watt vtx and a Tracker. All in one video. Maybe you should setup a static camera so we can watch the Tracker following the plane....🤔😮😀😏🇬🇧
Are you able to adjust the power level on the GT? I went to latest firmware on mine combined with the VRX module and it seems to only want to run a high output power no matter what I set it to. I unlocked it and can see the 2000mW option now but I can set it to 25mW and it doesn't make any difference. Only standby mode drops the output power. Trying to figure out if something is wrong with it cause so far its seems to have really poor performance. I use it on the ground but have a fan blowing on it that pushes a ton of air, and it's still pretty warm when it comes back to me.
Why do they make the TX black? Should be silver or white! Less heat from the sun!
Thank you for the video. I'm not sure if i missed about the dual antennas. Could you tell me which antennas at 3.50min? Thanks for your help. Currently running the stock v2 ones on my hd kit. Some ppl claim the stock antennas are garbage (even the v2)
Those are HGLRC Hammers. I just used them because they were already on the plane and worked well with the other VTX that was on there. Personally I've been using both the stock V2 antennas and a few different replacement ones and haven't seen a huge difference in them. The V2 stock ones seem OK. That said, I haven't tried anything real high end like something from TrueRC on the transmitter side to compare.
I am just getting into FPV fixed wing, Flew FPV quads in the past. I want to start buying equipment and i came across this video and I think I am sold on this walksnail avatar GT kit. Can you let me know what goggles and receiver you are using in this video. Looks great , I have not looked into this walksnail kit but I take it that it is digital. I also subscribed
Looks great. I've noticed you always seem to run at 25mbps. Is there a reason you don't run at 50mbps? Your video looks great as I said, but I was curious.
Hey bonafidepriate, do you have a video going into detail on what electronics you use on this aircraft? I am trying to make sense of what electronics I want to use on my rc plane build.
What flight controller is this ? I am assuming it has built in OSD.
I wonder if you'll be willing to make a tutorial of how to connect that Mini Antenna Tracker using blue tooth?? I have not have a good experience due to lock of knowledge
I am looking forward to your MFD tracker set up. Are you using the crossbow mini? With the telefly module? I purchased a crossbow mini several years ago, along with a couple of telefly modules and I struggled to get it to work properly. I never thought that it was compatible with digital signals. You are the first one I have seen using this. I will gladly pay for a detail how to from you.
Thanks for making great content!
I have the Crossbow Mini, but no telefly modules. The tracker will work with telemetry data in mavlink, CRSF, or s.port format, maybe others. I'm using it with Dragonlink and Crossfire using Mavlink, and currently with ELRS using CRSF. There's still some development from ELRS on that end though, so I'm waiting for that to finish up before making a video about the tracker. There's tons of good info already in the Facebook group though, which is where I learned everything I know... lol Both what's posted and form members in the group explaining things when I had questions.
@@bonafidepirateI did not know that it would track without the signal that is added to the video feed. That's good news I had given up on it. Now there's hope! Thanks.
😍😍 oh yeah!
maybe I missed it - what controller are you using here, for the OSD input?
It's an older Matek F405-Wing (the first one, not V2) with Ardupilot firmware.
Fabulous 👌 ❤
great video , is this compatible with the vrx unit ?
Yes, I used the VRX while flying in this video. ;) All the Walksnail transmitters will work with all their goggles and VRX module.
Stupid question - what radio are you using on this flight - I see the RSSI goes down to 35 ?
Sorry for the late reply! I have the Dragonlink in this one, which scales RSSI a little different than some, especially if you're used to watching LQ. It's just pure RSSI and isn't linearly scaled. It will drop off quick then settle there and drop slower the farther out you go, and has a flyable signal down to low single digits.
Great video, I'm looking forward to flights like that! I'm pretty new to all of this, I do have an old dragonlink laying around, and an eagletree vector. Wondering if the walksnail gt will plug right into the vector? And are you in the shed using your computer monitor? Just wondering how it's possible to use an antenna tracker with the goggles?
I do fly with a monitor mostly, the receiver sits outside and I have a long HDMI cable that runs back inside. The Vector won't interface with Walksnail, you could fly with it just fine but you won't have a working OSD, or be able to auto start/stop recording when arming, or have low power standby mode when disarmed. As much as I loved the Vector, I've found that modern FC boards with Inav or Ardupilot have more to offer, better performance, and cost less.
@@bonafidepirate thanks for the info, could you recommend a FC with inav? I guess it's time to get up to date.
@@kris12211221 The Speedybee F405 Wing is a good one to start with right now I think. A lot of value for it's price, and a great FC not even considering the low cost... lol There's a number of others that will work just as well too.
@@bonafidepirate thanks for your time, I'm looking forward to it!
dam I just bought my moonlight kit a few weeks ago, murphys law this comes out dammit lol, now i have to wait on the goggles as I see they have a new gyro head tracker fix coming soon. make a post about those & I will also buy these from your links. they not giving discounts on this link.
That looks sooo clear
Yeah it should look as good as any pro 2 caddx camera but it doesn't?
Do you use goggles? If so ,what antennas do you use?
I would like to build a long range quad with these vtx and goggles x , and i was wondering what antennas i should use on the goggles, maybe truerc patches?
I mostly fly with the VRX module. I have 4 TrueRC X-Air II antennas on it. I've seen people mod the Goggles X to use those as well. The standard X-Airs wouldn't be a bad choice either I think.
Imagine if we had a 2.4 or 3.3 540p high power digital link. Range would be legit
3.3ghz 720p 30fps would be for me (rx has 2.4g band)
You could always go with LTE
2w what? EIRP? Conducted output?
Yeah, would be nice to know but I'm more interested in real world, can't wait to get one for my LR quad to compare
Спасибо за видео
Can it be put into full power without a flight controller for a ground vehicle ? Cheers
Yeah, you can turn off standby mode in the menu like with the other WS VTXs.
Nice
Do you have the STL Files for the camera mount and the vtx mount, plz?
This one is from "Thieu0s" - www.thingiverse.com/thing:5811529 I may have changed the mounting pattern before I printed it, I'm not sure if it's 25x25 or 20x20, double check before printing... lol
Nice!
I’ve wanted that mfd crossbow mini for a long time, every time I check its out of stock, can’t be backordered, can’t subscribe to in stock notifications, so consider yourself lucky. There’s the big one, $1200 big one lol I don’t care about signal THAT much 😂
Yeah they are not readily available for the most part. You might have better luck asking in the Facebook group, that's how I get this one, asking around and got in touch with a guy that had some stock in the US... lol
@@bonafidepirate oh ok that’s helpful advice thank you!
How far did you generally go on 1.3ghz analog?
100/200km easy. Search on UA-cam.
I saw this doesnt have PX4 SUPPORT???? THOUGHTS?
I have not used PX4, does it not have a way to configure a UART for MSP/Display port?
F*ck!! I just ordered a MoonLight camera kit wirh their newer GM3 gimball like 2 days ago and now they release this... I should have wait I suppose especially since that VTX seems perfect for surface because they already have a fan on it for cooling. Too bad now I would have to make a bracket for the moonlight VTX with a fan and the gimbal.
I wouldn't sweat it. The Moonlight has a lot going for it. 4K for starters DVR for starters, stabilization with gyroflow is second to none, though that might not be such a big deal if you're putting it on the gimbal... lol I don't know if anyone else has, but I haven't personally ran the GT on full power for very long on the ground, so I'm not sure how well the integrated fan will hold up in that case. I know it keeps it cool in static air while in standby, but in the air flying it's right out in the airflow the way I have it mounted. I guess what I'm saying is I would be perfectly happy running the Moonlight in a surface application, and you're free to use whatever cooling you want to be sure it's adequate.
Would you say this makes WS more viable for long range than O3 & goggles 2 combo?
I haven't flown any of the DJI FPV stuff, so I couldn't say... lol
@@bonafidepirate fair enough)
@@Dan-ro6nj Anything without a hard limit is going to be more viable for ranges outside of that limit of course. Anything within that hard limit, DJI is absolute king. The O3 basically blows away the Avatar in almost every regard as far as I can tell so far. I normally use the O3 and Goggles V2's and decided to try the Avatar GT with the VRX+Skyzone goggles. The image looks great aside from the pixelation. At times it reminds me of an old video game that lacks anti-aliasing. The O3 just does not have the greatest low lighting capability, but the image is actually much much clearer. My GT doesn't want to change output power so IDK if there's something wrong with it.. but otherwise it seems to hold up with great signal until it starts meeting its first set of real obstruction. Then it severely drops to the point where any analog 5.8G vtx at about 1.5W for me is easier to navigate.
In comparison, the O3 does it without even complaining and gives me perfect image the entire time. The processing power is just superior and it doesn't even get as hot.
@@Magneticitistthat's helpful, thanks for sharing your experience. Did you unlock your walksnail VRX/Goggles? On my avatar goggles output power is limited to a certain mw until you unlock. I'm about to buy this GT kit, but unsure if it gives me the range i expect and if it's worth to spend another 50€/$ more. 50% more range would be nice, but i doubt that's possible. Currently running walksnail avatar v2 kit.
@@Michelsen3K My first testing on it wasn't too fair for the Walksnail cause I tried the stock antennas. Man, when people say the stock antennas are no good they are not joking. Upgrading them definitely helped. I also realized when transmitting the HDMI into a better screen the Walksnail image was very good. Perfectly crisp with good signal.
After upgrading the antennas I saw a big improvement. I always run everything unlocked max power so the GT was at 2W. While it made a huge difference swapping antennas, it still wasn't matching or beating the O3 when it comes to penetration but that's at ground level. In the air I think it would be fine.
Avatar GT Kit vs Moonlight?
Pro vs Con.
Moonlight Pros:
4K, excellent results from Gyroflow with minimal effort, as much power/range as the other 1200mW VTXs which is adequate for most.
Moonlight Cons:
Gets pretty warm, even in standby, like most of the Walksnail VTXs. Costs a few dollars more than the GT/Pro Kit.
GT Pros:
Super low power standby lets it run cooler, especially with the fan, and quicker GPS locks. More power for a slight increase in range. Costs a few dollars less than the Moonlight, slightly better low light performance with the Pro camera than the Moonlight
GT Cons:
Low power standby has limited range, 1080p max vs 4K, Pro camera doesn't stabilize as good with Gyroflow, even with a fair amount of tweaking trying to get things synced and working well.
makes no sense testing this new vtx with the antenna tracker if youve flown always without one, does it ?!? and if this was with tracker its not looking good either...i have about the same signal strenght at that range with the v1 vtx @ 750mw and the vrx module on my cobraX´s! Im not impressed to say the least...
dude how are flying with that 70ms of latency on Cobras
@@awerks12 Its actually feels quite good in a wing setup... with the 5inch , its also ok if you are not flying hardcore bando style. Even in my whoop its ok although if im doing fast rounds with hard turns on my living room track im getting somewhat seasick after the 4th lipo if i make no pause in between lol I dont want to shell out good money for them crappy goggles from walksnail. Waiting for a proper version 2 / next gen model goggles & hope they get their shit together finally xD
@hirnlegorush why are you so angry? Is this not up to the high quality content that you are pumping out?
@@awerks12 i fly just fine and just for context do we even know what 70ms even means its 7/100 of a second just let that sink in buddy
@@420247paul you’re just coping with that 7/100 my friend. You obviously never felt what good latency feels like
Ukrain be investing a lot on this vtx
Nah, those guys are using cheap "disposable" analog hardware.
Testing a fpv product on a fixed wing... where penetration is not a factor. No wonder you got a review copy 😂
Imagine, pretending FPV wasn't around long before multirotors were even a thought... lol
@@bonafidepirate fixed wing fpv undoubtedly came first, but it doesn't represent the use case for the core consumers in their market. If anything, you posting this review first just gaslights consumers into thinking the solution to their failed gogglesx launch is buying more products that just mask the flaws in the core of their current gen platform.
@robjackson2731 Lol. There are plenty of Goggles X users that are very happy with their performance (me included).
@@robjackson2731I don't think the GT would fit on a whoop....or are you assuming that 5inch freestyle is the core consumer use? I think it's been clear from the beginning that walksnail are trying to cater for more than just generic quad use.
Penetration an long range? Have you ever been farther than 5km? No line of sight, no range dude?