This review is very misleading. The DR does not use less storage space at all, it needs more. The DR hoses will require replacement at a minimum, every year due to holes and tears from normal yard use. The collector cover fabric on the DR is strong, but the seam at the rear part is exceedingly weak and begins to come apart in under one season’s use (I’ve been through two already). DRs solution is to “not fill the collector up completely”. Also, the venting material on the top of the collector cannot withstand the continuous beating it takes from leaf material being thrown into the collector. I ended up having to attach a piece of leather to hang near the rear of the collector to direct the material down and away from the vent area and the rear wall. My first DR was bought several years ago when the collector was solid plastic walls. I had to make modifications and repairs several times over the years I had it, including several new hoses until I bought a hose from Cyclone Rake. I ended up buying the newest DR model (321 Pro) a couple of years ago. The very first thing I did was replace the hose with one from Cyclone Rake. I’ve never had a single tear or hole out of the CR hose. I’m now having vibration issues with the DR that if I can’t get rectified will probably destroy the engine. My next purchase will be a Cyclone Rake.
I'm considering trying the cyclone this fall. I tried the DR top model a few years ago, and while it worked well and dumped well, the hose simply would not hold up. In only 6 uses (fall leaf cleanup), I had FIVE tears in the hose. I ended up returning it. Hopefully, the Cyclone hose will hold up since it stays stationary.
I have had my cyclone rake classic for 6 years and it has never let me down. It is a huge time saver and is very reliable. We get a crazy amount of leaves and the cyclone rake attached to my cub cadet rzts zero makes fall clean up a fast and fun process! My cyclone rake hose has held up well. We have several oak trees that drop a lot of acorns and the cyclone rake hose has held up very well.
The cyclone rake just need to make it follow you like a regular trailer not having caster wheels that you cant ride close along fences or walls or anything because it will drag along them and its hard for the front wheels to steer with its heavy and the impeller flexes when it picks something large up that it vibrates screws loose and wear the spring latches out overtime and dr had the caster wheel design and I see why they stop using it
@@driftracing08they do. The Commander and XL pro are made in single and dual pin. They use a better hose than the DR, the hanger arm is bigger and the hose is held by a house hammock rather than the bungee DR uses which should keep their hoses from ripping.
Terrible review. I've been researching both of these brands and your comments are inconsistent with other reviews and the factory specs provided by both companies. First, there are several models from each company yet you seem to pick only one without specifying and then draw conclusions. For example, you indicate the Cyclone is trailer mounted but you show pics of the DR trailer mounted model. You also indicate the Cyclone has a larger capacity but that's simply wrong. The Cyclone Commander has a 285 gallon capacity while the DR Pro 330 has a 330 gallon capacity. Other models have larger or smaller capacities but that was not clear in the narrative. Bottom line, your analysis is unclear at minimum and just plain wrong at the worst. It's vague, shallow and confusing. I still haven't decided which model to buy but this review doesn't help.
DR makes the largest capacity between the two. Cyclone rake takes way less room to store. Lol now they make a single point version and have a conversion kit for the commander and XL models. The difference is better hoses lift arm and a hose hammock vs the bungee that moves around on the DR
@@billastley8878 the hose setup with the DR is garbage. They tear often which is why I bought the cyclone with the two point hitch which also has it's cons. It can rip the rear end out of the typical rider. It's easier to hit things as it doing around and it's a lot of stress at the hitch especially leaded. But cyclone rake just came out with two single pin models and a single pin conversion kit which I have on my XL right now. The cyclone single pin and conversion kits are way better than the DR. The hose is 20 times stronger, the lift bar is long and they have this things called a sock hammock that wraps around the hose and connects to the lift arm. It stays put on the hose and doesn't slide around like the bungee on the DR. I have the DR pro 330. I'll be disassembling it keeping the trailer, storing the canopy and mounting the motor to my trailer for leaf collection at places I can't dump at. The DR has done pros, it's easier to dump and it does work. It's just the hose system that sucks. Cyclone rake is simply better be it a dual pin or single pin setup but what really separates the two is customer service. It's hard to get a real answer from DR other than the info is on the website. Cyclone customer service is second to none. For those with a DR. You should be able to replace the house system with pieces of the cyclone rake conversion kit. The hose, "yellow" the sock hammock and the lift bar. This will stop the tearing off your hoses. You will have to modify the lift bar by either welding a washer in place or drilling a hole for a cotter pin to hold a washer. This is to keep it from sliding down as it mounts differently on the cyclone. Right now DR dues have the largest capacity but the 415 gallon of the cyclone is no joke. If you're gonna get the larger capacity leaf vac and using a typical rider or smaller zero turn, especially the big box store mowers your better off with a single pin. You can get away with pulling the largest leaf vacs with a smaller mower with a single pin without damage to your mower. I have two neighbors that have ripped the rear end, "the back plate where the hitch is" with the dual point hitch. This is from swinging around and hitting trees and excessive weight and trying turn swing around in general. Both yards are level. Expensive fix if you can't weld yourself.
Absolutely love my cyclone rake! No problems going on 5 years. Money well spent 👍
This review is very misleading. The DR does not use less storage space at all, it needs more. The DR hoses will require replacement at a minimum, every year due to holes and tears from normal yard use. The collector cover fabric on the DR is strong, but the seam at the rear part is exceedingly weak and begins to come apart in under one season’s use (I’ve been through two already). DRs solution is to “not fill the collector up completely”. Also, the venting material on the top of the collector cannot withstand the continuous beating it takes from leaf material being thrown into the collector. I ended up having to attach a piece of leather to hang near the rear of the collector to direct the material down and away from the vent area and the rear wall. My first DR was bought several years ago when the collector was solid plastic walls. I had to make modifications and repairs several times over the years I had it, including several new hoses until I bought a hose from Cyclone Rake. I ended up buying the newest DR model (321 Pro) a couple of years ago. The very first thing I did was replace the hose with one from Cyclone Rake. I’ve never had a single tear or hole out of the CR hose. I’m now having vibration issues with the DR that if I can’t get rectified will probably destroy the engine.
My next purchase will be a Cyclone Rake.
I'm considering trying the cyclone this fall. I tried the DR top model a few years ago, and while it worked well and dumped well, the hose simply would not hold up. In only 6 uses (fall leaf cleanup), I had FIVE tears in the hose. I ended up returning it. Hopefully, the Cyclone hose will hold up since it stays stationary.
I have had my cyclone rake classic for 6 years and it has never let me down. It is a huge time saver and is very reliable. We get a crazy amount of leaves and the cyclone rake attached to my cub cadet rzts zero makes fall clean up a fast and fun process!
My cyclone rake hose has held up well. We have several oak trees that drop a lot of acorns and the cyclone rake hose has held up very well.
The cyclone rake just need to make it follow you like a regular trailer not having caster wheels that you cant ride close along fences or walls or anything because it will drag along them and its hard for the front wheels to steer with its heavy and the impeller flexes when it picks something large up that it vibrates screws loose and wear the spring latches out overtime and dr had the caster wheel design and I see why they stop using it
@@driftracing08they do. The Commander and XL pro are made in single and dual pin. They use a better hose than the DR, the hanger arm is bigger and the hose is held by a house hammock rather than the bungee DR uses which should keep their hoses from ripping.
@@billzaferatos2256 They should made single pin years ago when my dad bought one for my grandparents house
Terrible review. I've been researching both of these brands and your comments are inconsistent with other reviews and the factory specs provided by both companies. First, there are several models from each company yet you seem to pick only one without specifying and then draw conclusions. For example, you indicate the Cyclone is trailer mounted but you show pics of the DR trailer mounted model. You also indicate the Cyclone has a larger capacity but that's simply wrong. The Cyclone Commander has a 285 gallon capacity while the DR Pro 330 has a 330 gallon capacity. Other models have larger or smaller capacities but that was not clear in the narrative. Bottom line, your analysis is unclear at minimum and just plain wrong at the worst. It's vague, shallow and confusing. I still haven't decided which model to buy but this review doesn't help.
DR makes the largest capacity between the two. Cyclone rake takes way less room to store. Lol now they make a single point version and have a conversion kit for the commander and XL models. The difference is better hoses lift arm and a hose hammock vs the bungee that moves around on the DR
Annoying music, think about trying to inform adults and not Teletubbies.
@@billastley8878 the hose setup with the DR is garbage. They tear often which is why I bought the cyclone with the two point hitch which also has it's cons. It can rip the rear end out of the typical rider. It's easier to hit things as it doing around and it's a lot of stress at the hitch especially leaded. But cyclone rake just came out with two single pin models and a single pin conversion kit which I have on my XL right now. The cyclone single pin and conversion kits are way better than the DR. The hose is 20 times stronger, the lift bar is long and they have this things called a sock hammock that wraps around the hose and connects to the lift arm. It stays put on the hose and doesn't slide around like the bungee on the DR. I have the DR pro 330. I'll be disassembling it keeping the trailer, storing the canopy and mounting the motor to my trailer for leaf collection at places I can't dump at. The DR has done pros, it's easier to dump and it does work. It's just the hose system that sucks. Cyclone rake is simply better be it a dual pin or single pin setup but what really separates the two is customer service. It's hard to get a real answer from DR other than the info is on the website. Cyclone customer service is second to none. For those with a DR. You should be able to replace the house system with pieces of the cyclone rake conversion kit. The hose, "yellow" the sock hammock and the lift bar. This will stop the tearing off your hoses. You will have to modify the lift bar by either welding a washer in place or drilling a hole for a cotter pin to hold a washer. This is to keep it from sliding down as it mounts differently on the cyclone. Right now DR dues have the largest capacity but the 415 gallon of the cyclone is no joke. If you're gonna get the larger capacity leaf vac and using a typical rider or smaller zero turn, especially the big box store mowers your better off with a single pin. You can get away with pulling the largest leaf vacs with a smaller mower with a single pin without damage to your mower. I have two neighbors that have ripped the rear end, "the back plate where the hitch is" with the dual point hitch. This is from swinging around and hitting trees and excessive weight and trying turn swing around in general. Both yards are level. Expensive fix if you can't weld yourself.